This Wasn’t Supposed to Work - RTX 3090 / 3080 in Sub-10L.

[@tarokamara23]

I wish my life was as tidy as this dude’s cable management.

[@fdjw88]

getting rid of wife and kids might help.

[@jackieliu1232]

@@fdjw88 no wife no kids and still dont have a life thats as tidy as this dude's cable management

[@fdjw88]

@@jackieliu1232 get rid of girlfriend.

[@DaCaveman84]

His entire life seems to be this clean :(

[@ottogeburtig9867]

Guys cheer up. Life will get better and look like his cable management in the long run. Keep it up.

[@_Randwulf]

I think I can speak for the sub 10L community when I say, Can't thank you enough Ali for your effort in creating quality content with no fluff.. Many of us can just barely afford the systems that you show and hesitate to invest in a combination of components that just may not work. You cover pretty much all of the potential considerations to the point that we can have more confidence in attempting to build our dream system... 👍😎

[@afd1040]

Did someone said Ali ?!

[@warmachine5835]

Echoing the sentiment, but also need to point out there is indeed fluff at 2:03

[@Persason]

It's not just the sub 10 L community but the entire SFF community (mini ITX) that I believe is thankful for his content.

[@odinsplaygrounds]

The "no fluff" part is such an important part. When 90% of tech channels are shilling to no end, intro and outro ads, shilling for own merch store, constantly reminding us to subscribe and ring the bell, with clickbait soyboy-mouth thumbnails, focusing more on creating over the top machines that just throw in a lot of useless shit, and so on. In this environment, OT's content really becomes "less is more", by cutting to the chase and in a more sleek manner.

[@brentgreeff1115]

Yea - I was just binge watching this channel to see if I can put a 5950x into a SFF case & this vid pops up. - FormD T1 looks perfect. - I would love to see a 5950x build in this case - quieter the better.

[@diaa_bouras]

Even the cat could fit in that case! Lol

[@JamesRussoMillas]

Is the cat an ITX form factor?

[@diaa_bouras]

James Russo Pretty much

[@nasty73]

for now lmao

[@theswaff699]

@@JamesRussoMillas cats can be from mini ITX to XL-ATX, depending on their temperature or mood/

[@Grimmwoldds]

Yes, the cat fit inside. Cats are a liquid.
That cat is only about a 7L cat.

[@petermuller7687]

"I've never been one for white [...] stuff in general"
-He says, cutting later to a completely white studio. :D

[@scheve332]

Problem is he can't find the pc in the studio if it's white.

[@scheve332]

@Gianluca Nastro I don't think Peter reviews cases.

[@tmoneytechnic]

@Gianluca Nastro ​ 1: You're replying to some random dude, not Ali. 2: Ali literally just said that it's worse to use your PSU for exhaust. Sure you'll drop a degree or so, but your PSU fan will have to ramp up so much that your system will be louder than without a flipped PSU. Not to mention you *may* reduce the lifespan of your PSU due to the increased heat of the internals. I doubt things will change in a lower airflow case. Your best bet is to undervolt a 3080 FE, run a 92mm fan as exhaust (if you're air cooling your cpu), and pray.

[@BlueRS123]

@Gianluca Nastro You can't fit the 3090 in the Dan A4

[@4RT1LL3RY]

White computer tech is annoying. The different paints, textures, and materials mean the actual appearance of 'white' has a lot of variance. On a white painted case looks different then white powder coat, and white plastic looks different too.

[@framebuffer.10]

When I first saw Jensen taking the 3090 out of the oven I was like
- Can't wait to see Steve (Gamers Nexus) taking it apart
- Can't wait to see Ali fitting it into a mini-ITX build
:-)

[@heretustay]

Agreed to both of the above. Glad they’re both getting more recognition now, too. 👏👏👏

[@MrinmayDhar]

This feels like a stripper dance.
Only see, no touch.

[@SOSOGUDRANA]

Ur pfp matches ur comment very nicely

[@mr.banana4178]

Yes

[@CaveyMoth]

Look, but don't touch.
Touch, but don't taste.
Taste, but don't swallow.

[@BritishTexan707]

@@CaveyMoth great movie

[@CaveyMoth]

@@BritishTexan707 And sampled in soooo many songs, too.

[@Kyeboards]

Even though 360k subscribers is no small feat, I feel your channel is one of the more underrated PC tech channels around right now.
Great video, as always.

[@pepperpepsi5644]

Feels good when a major creator takes your slightly crazy suggestion into serious account and actually does testing. Love your content! looking forward to water-cooled 3090!

[@madhawk777]

I am starting to think that all tech youtubers have cats.

[@lampree]

I think it’s a prerequisite of the job

[@Mart-E12]

The cats are the ones behind the youtube channels actually

[@noc44]

@@Mart-E12 that blows my mind

[@Mart-E12]

Snowflake is the CEO of Gamer's Nexus

[@iadtag1853]

unless you're (mostly) an Apple tech TH-camr.

[@abdulmuhaimin5274]

2:02 Squeeze kitty!

[@MrJohnLongbow]

Very difficult case to get, paired with a CPU which is mostly sold out (10900K that is) combined with a GPU which isn’t available anywhere...
Nice 👍🤣😂

[@MrDragonorp]

Not really, I saw the pre order window opened for like 1-2 weeks which will arrive at November.
Would have got if I was sure I can fit it in my budget but unclear yet if this case or the n200

[@tmoneytechnic]

In my experience, it's much easier to get a Formd T1 than a 3080. I've seen the Formd in stock nearly a dozen times, purchased one, and have yet to see a 3080 in stock. Don't plan to buy a gpu until next year though, I'll have to make do with my 2060 at 3440x1440 haha.

[@jm8080ful]

And he got the case and the GPU for free............possibly even the CPU

[@dzibanart8521]

well the upcoming ryzen 5000 series cpus are on their way (Nov. 5th), they are better then 10900k in every way. you could get a BigNavi card they shuold be able to fit there, i mean if the 3090 fits anything fits there. as for the case, well yeah that is hard to get but not impossible unlike nvidia 3000 cards.

[@robertohernandez1642]

Case isn not hard to get, just have to wait a bit, before the holidays. This is now true ,but not true most of the year.

[@truemetsujin]

Don't know how you can release high quality videos like this (ultra crisp images, nice light, nice edit, ultra clear voice over etc etc) so often ! Keep up the good work bro !

[@fred_derf]

Now that's what I'd call a sleeper. Stroll up to a lan party and everyone laughs at your tiny computer then you hook up and hit'em with a 3090!

[@odinsplaygrounds]

Should be laughing at the others for over-compensating. ;)

[@draco89123]

I already got a lot of toaster jokes ready. Must be broken, doesn't even heat up. =(

[@batileche3538]

wet dreams right here

[@MultiRanman]

I'm shocked to see that this is possible. Nice to see that ten people in the universe can build this.

[@nolandderlugner1351]

Tomorrow my b550 and 3600xt arrives
I cant wait to build it in the nr200p
I know this has nothing to do with the vid but i had to share it with someone

[@rocketracer111]

Me with a 3slot gpu and if finally shipped a with 2,7slot gpu really wants to build in the nr200p aswell since the T1 feels out of reach 🤭
I can feel your urge 😂

[@mr.banana4178]

Same I saving up to build my streaming pc... I just have to be patient and wait
Ryzen 7 3700x
Rtx 3080 (If it exists)
Nr200

[@theobaldsjacob]

Just about to get a 2700x and x470 to pair with my 1070ti, i can definitely relate. Good luck with your build!

[@chrismansour5191]

How the heck did you manage to get a nr200p, it’s literally out of stock everywhere

[@nos676]

I have a white Cerberus X and I'm waiting for my white NR200P to arrive for another system :D

[@jm3415]

Love the noise and temp plots on the same image. A novel approach and very appreciated. Please maintain!

[@catgirldoll]

I'm a simple man: I see a new Optimum Tech video, I like it.

[@carlosoliveira7916]

You are a very smart man. You can explain everything very simple. Everybody knows what to do after your videos. Cong.

[@odinsplaygrounds]

How do you mount the cat? Is there enough airflow for it?

[@soumendutta1084]

Your cat demands an orange build..plz make it come true..😚😚

[@TheEragoon]

@@ChrisMCP2 why?

[@sharathravishankar6782]

@@ChrisMCP2 Indians too, lmao ;_;

[@jaytsun8873]

Woxys trump

[@christoskaragiannis7973]

I wish these videos were longer, i can watch this channel all day :P

[@sonoinpace]

Already jealous of your ever growing arms...I just thought it was hilarious to see how much your muscles had to flex whilst picking up and putting down the 3090!🤣

[@kvarde2441]

This dude loves these unicorn cases. I've never seen any of them in the wild.

[@J4RDAAN]

Thank God I found your channel because I love ITX builds and I think you are the best at it

[@jetjet6560]

I'd need to take a second mortgage just to get Ali's setup...jesus christ

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

I had to laugh when he snuck that 3090 into the camera view like some David Blane magic misdirection. I love this channel.

[@DaltonP386]

And I thought my 1905Mhz @ .925v was a decent underclock. I now got 1860Mhz @ .850v. That's really astonishing that you can go 45Mhz lower with almost a .1v drop. Great work and great video!

[@TheTechAct]

Optimum Tech: posts a video
Me: There goes another case that I can't find literally anywhere

[@chrisholtzclaw9493]

Always can count on EXCELLENT videos regarding SFF builds! Exceptional once again, Ali !!!

[@Mr.DJones]

Great video. Thank you very much. I'm buying a completely new system early next year. But w/ a little bit bigger case. More towards 18L. Thank you again.

[@turbo558]

Amazing videos man!! I was SO hyped for this one to drop. Thank you for the clean cut, quality content. Stay fresh man

[@mar_-oy1lc]

This is the most underrated channel, you are the only person who show products better than the company itself, your videography skills is pleasing to the eye specially at 7:08 when you combined soft light and sharp light to give a long shadow 😍, I hope i can be that good one day.

[@nathanshoults2896]

Fucking definition of quality content. My t1 comes december 1-4. Gunna try to get someone to buy me the 3080.

[@CIPROtex]

Realy glad you changed/redesigned your logo. I was about to send my own design-proposals but it seems you were faster :)

[@N.I.C.K-]

I'm so glad that I found your channel, your videos are so well done man. I can't wait until I can get my hands on a T1 when they re-open orders. Also really dig those led tube lights that you have around your studio.

[@F7INN]

Why have I never seen that cat before on this channel? They need to be featured in more b-roll

[@lodedh9227]

Nice 👍 hope Ali can produce along way those quality video, you are my favourite YT from all over tech

[@AtaleToldByAnIdiot]

This is going to be my build! 3090 is here just waiting on my case which should be here next week! EXCITED!

[@Dragonheng]

Good to know that a cat also fits in.
The next ITX building will be operated by a 120 trolley.

[@lachyyates1182]

0:51 - 1:15 Damn Ali, that montage of shots had me sweating...

[@poobalu]

big facts

[@fdjw88]

his cat is very very orange, and i love it.

[@BasicShapes]

Orange cat good

[@Dad32646]

He used to be white. The dude likes to smoke indoors

[@dylanguerrero8053]

How have i been sleeping on this channel this past year? Just recently discovered this place and it's incredible

[@mami1330]

Lad had he video 30 seconds under 10 minutes. I don’t know if you do make money like that but what a god.

[@ProDigit80]

You could take 2x 80x10mm case fans to cool the center of the GPU (the black fins), and cap the power by 100W, while at the same time overclock the GPU to get maximum performance (and minimal heat).

[@QuantumBraced]

My guess for why the 3090 still works pretty well:
1) The AIO fans are helping exhaust hot air that would otherwise get trapped between the GPU and PSU. They also give you some active cooling on the GPU's middle finstack that would otherwise be passive.
2) The 3090 has such an overkill cooler, being a tall 3-slot with 120mm fans that the front fan alone can cool the GPU pretty well even if pass-through portion is only operating at 20-30% its open-air efficiency. In addition, with this case layout the GPU is getting fresh air straight form the outside.

[@WaynePilot]

You have pretty much done what I have been planning in my head for 3 weeks, and the result is almost as good as I expected. Thanks bro. You're a genius.

[@chilukarahul5740]

Cat demonstrating a flow thru design

[@Captain-Comedy]

awesome vid I was hoping to see watercooling but glad you mentioned at the end, I'll stay tuned.

[@aventrikz8787]

My favorite panel color is definitely the light silver, it matches much better with the white case.

[@cakermusic54]

That cat's fur is such a pretty shade of orange.

[@Kira-qc4qi]

Of course your cat would be aesthetic AF too

[@Artdeepmind]

The 3090 looks like it was made for that case, perfection.

[@HeyNavi]

Chris MCP I don’t think they’re talking about the case being efficient for the 3090. I believe they’re talking about how it fits perfectly in it.

[@Mart-E12]

The smol cat is so cute

[@EtheEvil]

Living up to the channel name

[@Bargaa0ti]

This video couldn't have come at a better time. Amazing quality as always 👍🏽

[@illogical1421]

This is a _SICK_ build.

[@sgujjari]

Hey Ali, love the content as usual.
Can you test the 3080 in the T1 with a complete aircooling build?
I wonder just how much having 2 x NF-A12 x 25 in exhaust would effect GPU temps.

[@Pro720HyperMaster720]

The Salvo Studios S402 is also a sub 10L case that can handle a RTX 3090 Founders Edition and is NOT a sandwich type case, I would say is more like tiny tower type

[@Sl0th150]

I wish I could pay to have a pc built exactly like this. I could never get cable management on point like this. Good job!

[@glasslockholmes3246]

this dude could be a serial killer and no one will find out for eternity, that's how neat he is

[@ottogeburtig9867]

Thanks for this in depth reviews for us enthusiasts. Helping the community a significant amount.

[@heretustay]

That white grill on white case looks fantastic

[@vsar1938]

Glad you included temps in the case itself and not just open bench.

[@rhymes2004]

Great video as always, thanks!

[@WTP_DAVE]

With their strict adherence to the slot size im not surprised things like this are possible

[@senseofpermanence]

The 3080 in that FormD T1 is now my goal end game system. Just have to wait to find one in stock somewhere lmao. Paired with a 10900K, it'll be quite the sub 10L gaming machine.

[@Leonsimages]

Now I want a T1 although I dont really need one... :(

[@rocketracer111]

I felt that.

[@mr.banana4178]

Sams

[@odinsplaygrounds]

Nah.. you need it. I'm sure you can come up with an excuse like we all do.

[@DavidFrycSaber]

I think a hybrid GPU kit, using a blower and radiator, and a low profile air cooler would be an ideal gaming set up. A 5600X is more than strong enough for any 4k gaming purposes and is only a 65w so plenty of low profile coolers would do just fine; the liquid cooling is not necessary for CPU. However, you always want as much GPU cooling as possible so the combination of the blower and the radiator should optimize any of the inefficiencies of the current build using a flow through design.

[@ncokicsi]

Cant wait for the EVGA XC3 variants for my Dan Case.

[@dingo4601]

That is the king of itx PC's...

[@tarfeef_4268]

Yeah that PSU test makes sense. It works for my setup because I'm putting a 120mm AIO there cooling a 3600x undervolted, which is was less heat than even half of a 3090. So I guess that setup should be reserved for cpu AIOs rather than GPUs

[@DrHudacris]

Voting for the dark chrome panels! With the white case, it gives me Miami vice vibes

[@greyrat_]

Mine is in the December batch....cannot wait.
Once my PSU is returned from RMA I'm not rebuilding my Dan, I'll just use my laptop until the T1 arrives 😄

[@ScrewUserNames6587]

I did a 4 240 rad custom loop inside the mini itx thermaltake super cube came out very well by turning the top plexi into a 220mm fan intake

[@ScrewUserNames6587]

A bunch of other case mods later, 2 x tb nvme, 4x 4tb sata ssd for a 16tb raid server, 5950x at 1.22v max and a 3090

[@daviddries8676]

Just wish I could actually buy this case in Australia :(

[@freshstaticsnow]

they should be shipping worldwide, but they're out of stock.

[@olamajosta3621]

0 always have been

[@daviddries8676]

@@freshstaticsnow well thanks to Optimum Tech's amazing vids, ill just build the NR200 :)

[@jimmehvideos]

And it works out to $380 shipped at the moment 😭

[@nos676]

@@jimmehvideos I paid over $700AUD for Cerberus X shipped. shipping itself was $220 :/
But you can buy it in Aus, it's just expensive is all.

[@littledragonmeiling]

The FormD T1 is a tabby approved. Wonderful video as always and thank you for showing that these chonky gpus can still fit in itx sff cases!

[@speedyMaldo]

It's so ridiculously difficult to get a FormD T1 that I just got an Ncase from some guy on hardwareswap and did a dual 240 rad build. I would have preferred the smaller footprint, but the silence and low temps aren't a bad alternative.

[@dinosoarskill17]

I personally think the light silver looks good for the white case, but I am the same way in not caring for white too much.

[@Alitaf97]

FormD T1 is my SFF wet dream, sub-10L boxy minimalistic design in matte black/white

[@JCH979]

Really wish I were still doing a whole new build so I could have used this case, I wound up cancelling my order for a T1 a few weeks back since I acquired another PC. Still though I am very glad I found this channel and look forward to when I finally get a chance for an sff build.

[@scottdinh5120]

2:02 is the best part of this video lol

[@Iveness922]

These cards are so good at undervolting. Running 850mV/1910Mhz on my RTX 3080 Gigabyte Gaming OC.

[@Sk3tchPad]

The white mesh cover looks so good. Really makes it look premium

[@njhourigan7615]

The white sidepanel is by far the nicest imo

[@odinsplaygrounds]

I’m glad I ordered the T1 after the Ghost S1 + 3080 video. Took the gamble this would work , and seems so! Now just remains getting a hold of a 3080 FE...

[@metalgear5198]

Nvidia has stopped making GPUs. Your best bet now is 3rd party AIBs

[@WiseG33k]

Light silver for the mesh panel is very sleek-looking, it's definately my favorite.

[@dengodesign9511]

4:20 Simply beautiful!!!

[@rmedoc24a]

Make the mesh and the case the same color "bronze" as on the new 3080 FEs. That color case would be awesome.

[@BRSxIgnition]

Was expecting to see a poll or google form or something in the video description.
Assuming we're just throwing our vote out there though, I'd rank the panels as follows:
Light Grey/Silver and Black (Tied)
Chrome w/ bronze tint
Personally if I absolutely had to pick a favorite panel I'd go with black on the E-White personally, but that's mainly just because it would work with my setup.
For most people it may work best to have the slight silver/gray to contrast with the white of the case while keeping the same aesthetic.

[@kornenator]

Looks super slick in white! I'd say the dark chrome or maybe a gunmetal side panel looks best.

[@maksepalad9141]

Wow! RTXality! This is kind of what I was dreaming to build ;-D

[@phlextromusic]

Black mesh seems to me to be the best option, so clean and simple colors!

[@Deathbynature89]

Suggestion since you have contact with FormD.
Can they make a FE custom component to flip the PCIe riser position to the top so the Pass Through vents straight out the case?
Or can you mod the FE to flip the fan or flip the motor polarity?

[@dallatorretdu]

oh man, I was buying a Ghost S1... guess I'll wait for this FormD

[@scubasteve5659]

as a ghost s1 owner, if youre planning on adding tophats the ghost s1 is too expensive w 2 large tophats and the nickel grill mine was like $500, and when you do this you end up with a pc thats not even that small anymore, w one large tophat it looks alright, also its not like ultra high quality like everyone implies my first one something was out of alignment and the top tophat didnt even fit on right i got another one and just the way the tophat screws together is dumb and the tiny aluminum screw holes are very very easy to strip if you use barely too much force and my io shield doesnt even snap in place if i wanted it to stay put it needs to be like glued in or something

[@dallatorretdu]

@@scubasteve5659 I'm looking to create a second system for the rare travels I do... so it will gett al the components that trickle down my workstation and as small and sturdy as possible

[@scubasteve5659]

@@dallatorretdu that was kinda my goal a more or less portable system formd is cool, i still think the dan a4sfx is awsome too lol. im actully thinking of selling my ghost s1 on ebay and rebuilding my pc in a sliger case now lol

[@tomgillotti]

I could have ordered the T1 two weeks ago but hesitated... now it's no longer available for pre-order 😪
Seems like such a good case!

[@krisj1274]

The contrast of the Black side panel looks awesome.

[@xybersurfer]

2:43 i strongly prefer the light silver as the panel color. it doesn't look like a white case anymore with the other colors

[@spacecy]

2:02 Cate inspec and approve.

[@CharlieMike25]

Unreal. Awesome job. Really undecided between something like this and a 011 which, although not quite SFF, will be a very pretty thing and much easier to work in.

[@Avioto]

I got a Gigabyte 3090 in a Sliger SM580. It's a super easy fit and works great!