I did this setup myself. My main panel is right on the other side of the garage wall, so installation was easy. It's been 4 years, and everything is working perfectly. Wiring has been checked ✔️ twice, just to make sure nothing is overheating or that there's a bad connection. Great video.👍🏻
For a Tesla, 6/3 wire and a 50 amp breaker. I'm going with a metal clad 6/3 4 wire for a 35' interior run in the garage to an external adjacent electrical panel.
@8:10 it shouldn't matter which side when using a double-poll breaker because those connect to both sides of the bus anyway (one leg from left and one leg from right).
Double pole breakers are automatically balanced. It does not matter where they are in the panel. They will by design tap each 120V leg for a total of 240V. See 10:19 the staggered legs. I'm no electrician but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express once..........
I have some limited experience so I did it myself too rather than pay the grand that they wanted to do it here locally. I got a state permit and had it inspected. It cost me about $160 including the permit. I installed Tesla connector right next to panel in garage. Great stuff and no one was electrocuted. 😀
What was that they said about a code book? We don't need no code book! What is a permit? Now, who exactly is liable if fire should take place and the insurance company decides not to cover un-permitted electrical install? For those watching, don't follow any of what you just saw.
That was so amazing. Exactly what I need. I pick up my Tesla in 30 days. And my breaker box is literally on the other side of the wall where I’m gonna be parking my Tesla. Super lucky
I read that Schd 40 should not be use for a conduit. Burying it deep makes sense, someday someone may be planting something and whack it with a pick, ZAAAP.
The older mobile charging cords that used to come with Teslas went up to 40 amps (37-38MPH). These newer ones only go up to 32 amps (about 29-30MPH). That NEMA 14-50 receptacle you installed can deliver up to 40 amps continuously.
@@Gjeebs I read that the cars themselves have a safety cap at 30 on non-superchargers so the extra amps made everything need to be thicker and heavier without a benefit.
the best part of waking up every morning to a full charge is the ability to punch it hard every morning ! Good video, saves $$$ if you know how. (RIP, lol)
I just installed my own 14-50 yesterday. Super easy (im an electrician for SRP) as long as the panel is on the same side as the garage. Or if you have a single story house. Would have been easier and cheaper to go thru the attic.
Question: Is it best practice run a NEMA 1450 line (6/3 interior Romex) inside of galvanized conduit if the main panel is on the outside wall of the garage? Est a 50 ft run inside walls of a garage (beneath drywall).
Thanks for making the video. But no clue for how he was an "electrician" even though he voiced a couple of words or phrases resembling an electrician. Maybe because he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night? hahaha..jeez But for real, thx for the upload.
Poor workmanship. Doesn’t looks like he is worth $3000 guy for this job. Conduit must have to go 18 inches deep in soil. It’s against state electricity codes.
Caution to all The 2020 NEC 210.8.(A). Calls for all garage recepticles to be GFCI protected. Yes, "125-volt through 250-volt" (their words) recepticles. Make sure you are up to speed for your area, ahj.
Why not use 4 wire 6/3 cabling which is all wrapped together with different colored insulation? Also I noticed there was a bit of exposed wire at the breaker, it should be flush so no metal wire is showing. Glad to see you survived that explosion on first plug in, guess you got lucky, lol.
Things are changing. Over the last couple years there have been too many events with cheaper outlets ($10-15) melting. Not designed for the continuous EV loads. Commercial grade is now recommended ($50+). Not all areas have adopted the code change that requires a gfci breaker but some manuals are saying not to use them because of nuisance tripping. Best install is hardwired but that requires 90 degree copper (THHN) by most manuals.
👍Thanks. For you all new to Tesla first try for a month or so charging with the regular wall outlet and your mobile connector. Charge up to 90% Charge every night. It adds up. 60 miles range gained x 350 nights = 21,000 miles a year. Supplement with Supercharger and destination chargers when traveling. ✌️😊
@@chezchezchezchez super painless and easy but copper is really expensive right now. So it was pricier than I thought due to how far I had to run the line.
@@Superman-xr1oh I meant 18 inches below grade if it’s plain dirt or grass. For 220 V pool heater wiring installation, the electrical code in our TX jurisdiction.
Kinda wondering why the wiring wasn't through the ceiling. Isn't that normally how electricians would route it? In my case the panel was in the garage so it was super trivial.
Your eyes supposed to use the 1450 plug from home Depot I hope you did not do that because those are known for catching on fire and they're a lot cheaper and smaller than what the other plugs are made for that you can order one like you said from Tesla
Your house was probably built in the mid 90s or early 2000s based on the style and construction. A lot of the 70s and 80s houses in Phoenix will look like the brick ones you'll see in Scottsdale around Shea/Cactus (or Cam Alford's house for that matter). Just talking out of my ass though, I don't know what neighborhood you live in.
Usually a professional should be doing a 50amp because - such things as your wire must be right; lots of things can kill you playing with a panel. It isn't even legal in many areas for that reason. You really should be disconnected up line; just switching off the main breaker isn't good practice. Will average people know if it is damaged? Did you check your load and line max load? If you didn't you could catch your house on fire. Your house looks newer so it probably is a 200amp but if it was 100 ; you'd have a fire hazard overloading your panel. Even properly stripping your wire can be an issue.
This “used to be an electrician” has no idea what he’s doing... not burying the conduit, saying you can cut off a few strands from the neutral conductor if it doesn’t fit in the neutral bus bar, saying the circuit breaker is there to protect the Tesla (not the wiring), claiming his Klein 11-1 driver is insulated, not using any duct seal, not using a Sq-D breaker for that panel... not even sure what he was checking for with the meter at the end.
This install is full of code violations as others have listed. You skipped getting a permit to do the work and have it inspected as required by law. To put up this video as a “how to” is a disservice to someone else who might follow this unsafe install..
Seriously was cringing at most of what he was saying. OP should add a disclaimer to hire an electrician and that people should not base their installation on this video. Nobody who isn't licensed has any business posting this video without disclaiming they aren't an expert.
He mentioned in is most recent video (the one about "all cars should do this") that his electric bill increase was barely noticeable. He said it might have gone-up $5 or $10 a month...something like that.
That Has to be the worst install I’ve ever seen if you want it done right hit me up I’ll gladly come out there and show you how it should be done so many code violations .
I keep checking that NEMA 1450 on Tesla website and it keep showing out of stock since 4 months. Do they still sale that or they discontinued making it. Who ever know where I can buy aside from Tesla please share the link, thanks.
jeebs, I follow you because I like your more recent videos about EVs. I realize this particular video is from 4 years ago, but brother, this install is completely illegal and half-ass. Your friend "that used to be an electrician" is total BS. Unless I missed it, how deep did you bury the conduit outside? Hope an innocent party doesn't accidentally uncover the work that was done!
Hey Gjeebs does Drew look for side work to help others install? Picked up my Model Y two days ago and now the the fun. If he does will you share his FB or IG?
I did this setup myself. My main panel is right on the other side of the garage wall, so installation was easy.
It's been 4 years, and everything is working perfectly. Wiring has been checked ✔️ twice, just to make sure nothing is overheating or that there's a bad connection.
Great video.👍🏻
8awg wire is not supported for sustained 40A loads like EV charging. 6awg is required for this install. I'm glad you went with the right one.
For a Tesla, 6/3 wire and a 50 amp breaker. I'm going with a metal clad 6/3 4 wire for a 35' interior run in the garage to an external adjacent electrical panel.
In conduit with type thhn or thwn is good for 55 amps
@@Chainyanker007 8/3 mc cable rated at 55 amps but the 6/3 will allow you to go up to 65 amps
@@thomasmarable6818 is that also true with sustained loads like charging a car?
@8:10 it shouldn't matter which side when using a double-poll breaker because those connect to both sides of the bus anyway (one leg from left and one leg from right).
Lol and he says in the 70's "they just didn't know" lol wtf? They didn't know about phasing and busses 60 years ago?
There is a reason he use to be an electrician
Double pole breakers are automatically balanced. It does not matter where they are in the panel. They will by design tap each 120V leg for a total of 240V. See 10:19 the staggered legs. I'm no electrician but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express once..........
I have some limited experience so I did it myself too rather than pay the grand that they wanted to do it here locally. I got a state permit and had it inspected. It cost me about $160 including the permit. I installed Tesla connector right next to panel in garage. Great stuff and no one was electrocuted. 😀
Good call
Never herd of someone that use to be an electrician
He got fired?
He quit?
Bad electrician lost his license.
I enjoy videos like this, going through most of the process and seeing the nitty gritty
What was that they said about a code book? We don't need no code book! What is a permit? Now, who exactly is liable if fire should take place and the insurance company decides not to cover un-permitted electrical install? For those watching, don't follow any of what you just saw.
Obviously, it's TH-cam 🙄
hmmm this might be a nice thing for us to offer all the Tesla owners we have come through our shop..
Yea that would be a great idea
That was so amazing. Exactly what I need. I pick up my Tesla in 30 days. And my breaker box is literally on the other side of the wall where I’m gonna be parking my Tesla. Super lucky
I installed my own 6 years ago for my first EV (Kia Soul). $75 in parts.
You talked me into it! probably the best solution for me too..
This video is great!!!! I watched other ones and was confused. You guys are simple and straightforward :) You saved me a lot of time!!
It shouldn't be its done all wrong
@@thomasmarable6818 Explain
By code, I think that your wire needs to be buried at least 18" to 24" in a trench. Sch 40 pipe is ok.
And the raceway needed to continue through the wall and connect to the j-box you mounted the NEMA 14-15 outlet to.
18" conduit or 24" direct burial wire per NEC.
2-3 inches close enough aye?
I read that Schd 40 should not be use for a conduit. Burying it deep makes sense, someday someone may be planting something and whack it with a pick, ZAAAP.
@@Chainyanker007 the sch 40 is ok
Shouldn't you have put that cable in the ground like 18+ inches, If your going to leave this set up when you move?
Yes 18" conduit or 24" direct burial per NEC.......regardless if leaving setup or not.
The older mobile charging cords that used to come with Teslas went up to 40 amps (37-38MPH). These newer ones only go up to 32 amps (about 29-30MPH). That NEMA 14-50 receptacle you installed can deliver up to 40 amps continuously.
Any idea why they toned it down?
@@Gjeebs I read that the cars themselves have a safety cap at 30 on non-superchargers so the extra amps made everything need to be thicker and heavier without a benefit.
@@Gjeebs Cost savings.
you can get the corded mobile connector that goes up to 40 amps, but its $500.
the best part of waking up every morning to a full charge is the ability to punch it hard every morning ! Good video, saves $$$ if you know how. (RIP, lol)
I just installed my own 14-50 yesterday. Super easy (im an electrician for SRP) as long as the panel is on the same side as the garage. Or if you have a single story house. Would have been easier and cheaper to go thru the attic.
Question: Is it best practice run a NEMA 1450 line (6/3 interior Romex) inside of galvanized conduit if the main panel is on the outside wall of the garage? Est a 50 ft run inside walls of a garage (beneath drywall).
does your local code requires GFCI protection for the NEMA 14-50? If so, how is it working out for you?
Thanks for making the video. But no clue for how he was an "electrician" even though he voiced a couple of words or phrases resembling an electrician. Maybe because he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night? hahaha..jeez But for real, thx for the upload.
underground cables should be at least 18 inches for code, that's probably why the guy "use to be' electrician
@@ken7031 I'm not an electrician and I know you should call before you dig. Lol
@@so4real How do you know they didn't?
What camera do you use? Nice vid!
Poor workmanship. Doesn’t looks like he is worth $3000 guy for this job. Conduit must have to go 18 inches deep in soil. It’s against state electricity codes.
Caution to all
The 2020 NEC 210.8.(A). Calls for all garage recepticles to be GFCI protected. Yes, "125-volt through 250-volt" (their words) recepticles.
Make sure you are up to speed for your area, ahj.
Back at it with another Model Y video :)
Why not use 4 wire 6/3 cabling which is all wrapped together with different colored insulation? Also I noticed there was a bit of exposed wire at the breaker, it should be flush so no metal wire is showing. Glad to see you survived that explosion on first plug in, guess you got lucky, lol.
You only use single conductors inside conduit, otherwise you have a danger of overheating.
The dangling plug dong was the best!
Gjeebs I can tell you have no aspirations to become a electrician 😩
Hahaha nope
Things are changing. Over the last couple years there have been too many events with cheaper outlets ($10-15) melting. Not designed for the continuous EV loads. Commercial grade is now recommended ($50+). Not all areas have adopted the code change that requires a gfci breaker but some manuals are saying not to use them because of nuisance tripping. Best install is hardwired but that requires 90 degree copper (THHN) by most manuals.
While plugged in, press the button on the charge handle 10 times in quick succession to see an easter egg!
Ahhhh thank you I forgot about that
👍Thanks. For you all new to Tesla first try for a month or so charging with the regular wall outlet and your mobile connector. Charge up to 90% Charge every night. It adds up. 60 miles range gained x 350 nights = 21,000 miles a year. Supplement with Supercharger and destination chargers when traveling. ✌️😊
Super helpful video as i'm going through this process as we speak! Thank you
Glad it helped!
How did it go?
@@chezchezchezchez super painless and easy but copper is really expensive right now. So it was pricier than I thought due to how far I had to run the line.
The not getting shocked rule where I'm from is called "bird on a wire" 😆
I am curious on how he did the waterproofing on the outside of the house. Was it just generic stucco patch and paint.
Man that’s great that you could do that!
I noted that the conduit is buried less than 18" deep. Any 220V wiring under ground should be 18' minimum.
Source?
@@Superman-xr1oh I meant 18 inches below grade if it’s plain dirt or grass. For 220 V pool heater wiring installation, the electrical code in our TX jurisdiction.
@@imranm7628 Gotcha, thanks!
Haha sales active listening. Nod, smile, more nodding. Cool cool 😎
Kinda wondering why the wiring wasn't through the ceiling. Isn't that normally how electricians would route it? In my case the panel was in the garage so it was super trivial.
Your eyes supposed to use the 1450 plug from home Depot I hope you did not do that because those are known for catching on fire and they're a lot cheaper and smaller than what the other plugs are made for that you can order one like you said from Tesla
If you had owned the home would you have opted for the Tesla Wall charger?
Yes
Thank you for this video. Did you create a method to hang the cord while charging so that it was not laying on the ground?
Yea you can see it in later videos. Basically two hooks in the wall and the cable goes around it. Nothing fancy
@@Gjeebs Did you buy another cable, so you can keep one in the trunk?
Nice job enjoy your Tesla👍🏻👍🏻⚡️🍾🥂
Awesome, ty! How far from Phx are you(I'd like to pick your brain offline)?
Per code all electric needs to be 18 inches deep in the ground. Yours looks to shallow.
Wow that was some project mine main box inside garage, so I just paid with parts and labor $450
Your house was probably built in the mid 90s or early 2000s based on the style and construction. A lot of the 70s and 80s houses in Phoenix will look like the brick ones you'll see in Scottsdale around Shea/Cactus (or Cam Alford's house for that matter). Just talking out of my ass though, I don't know what neighborhood you live in.
Drew seemed like an awfully nice guy!
Thanks
Usually a professional should be doing a 50amp because - such things as your wire must be right; lots of things can kill you playing with a panel. It isn't even legal in many areas for that reason. You really should be disconnected up line; just switching off the main breaker isn't good practice. Will average people know if it is damaged? Did you check your load and line max load? If you didn't you could catch your house on fire. Your house looks newer so it probably is a 200amp but if it was 100 ; you'd have a fire hazard overloading your panel. Even properly stripping your wire can be an issue.
Nobody disconnects up line, lol.
This “used to be an electrician” has no idea what he’s doing... not burying the conduit, saying you can cut off a few strands from the neutral conductor if it doesn’t fit in the neutral bus bar, saying the circuit breaker is there to protect the Tesla (not the wiring), claiming his Klein 11-1 driver is insulated, not using any duct seal, not using a Sq-D breaker for that panel... not even sure what he was checking for with the meter at the end.
He left exposed wire at the breaker, a no-no. I can see why he “used to be an electrician”.
This install is full of code violations as others have listed. You skipped getting a permit to do the work and have it inspected as required by law. To put up this video as a “how to” is a disservice to someone else who might follow this unsafe install..
Seriously was cringing at most of what he was saying. OP should add a disclaimer to hire an electrician and that people should not base their installation on this video. Nobody who isn't licensed has any business posting this video without disclaiming they aren't an expert.
Your landlord is going to be pissed if you didn’t get approval
Do you really think I would do this without getting approval?
Gjeebs 🤷♂️
@@Gjeebs did you get a permit?
@@davidbondi - I'm guessing not.
This job would not pass inspection, the whole thing must be torn out and redone.
Do,you know about how much your electric bill has changed?
He mentioned in is most recent video (the one about "all cars should do this") that his electric bill increase was barely noticeable. He said it might have gone-up $5 or $10 a month...something like that.
Question for everyone. Seems like this is the main panel, so is the ground and neutral busbar bonded together? can anyone tell?
Completely not to code and unsafe. You need to extend the raceway through the wall to protect the wires. Conduit is not deep enough.
That Has to be the worst install I’ve ever seen if you want it done right hit me up I’ll gladly come out there and show you how it should be done so many code violations .
I need a quote…mine is similar but would think we would go through attic
Nobody is going to hit you up, lol.
Nice guy
I miss the ST....
Damn, don't dig that trench too deep! 🥱
Where can I buy a nema 14-50 plug with $35?
I keep checking that NEMA 1450 on Tesla website and it keep showing out of stock since 4 months. Do they still sale that or they discontinued making it. Who ever know where I can buy aside from Tesla please share the link, thanks.
Or get a NEMA 6-50, same current spec, doesn't have a neutral, not needed for a Tesla charger
I just started the video but since you uploaded the video I know Drew is ok. But $3000! I paid 1000 and my friend said I paid too much.
dude got ripped off!!!!!
Saying you used to be an electrician is like saying you used to be gay
The trench you dig should be much deeper .
11:07 HAHAHAHAHA....!
I get 34 miles an hour through mine
Higher voltage?
@@TedKidd it's on a 40 amp circuit
@@garys6898 mobile charge maximum 32A
@@醬哥的奇妙之旅の頻道 I get between 33 and 34 miles an hour on a twin pole 40
This was done to a rental?? 0:18
How much did it cost?
About $500
The whole thing inluding the electrician cost or just the equipment cause I want to know just the equipment price please and thank you
Are you happy with this? do you wish you had purchased the $500 charger?
I am happy with this. Haven’t even thought of the other charger
jeebs, I follow you because I like your more recent videos about EVs. I realize this particular video is from 4 years ago, but brother, this install is completely illegal and half-ass. Your friend "that used to be an electrician" is total BS. Unless I missed it, how deep did you bury the conduit outside? Hope an innocent party doesn't accidentally uncover the work that was done!
Your wife's ex is pulling your wire, nice :)
Alot of ASSumptions there...
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Off your meds?
Hey Gjeebs does Drew look for side work to help others install? Picked up my Model Y two days ago and now the the fun. If he does will you share his FB or IG?
Hi Gjeebs , does Drew still do electric work like as in side job if so I would like to know about his contact Facebook , Instagram?