Much respect for telling it like it is with the UD60 & not sugarcoating it. I can't understand why certain long time Dynatrac advocates suddenly flipped the script & went with UDs on their new builds after years of talking shit about UDs on their forum.
I see where you're going with this...let's dissect shall we. Offroad Evolution installs UD60s on their rig, Eddie soon follows suit & all of a sudden Northridge does a JT giveaway & also do UD60s... and EVO suspension. NR4x4 is the biggest distributor of EVO & Eddie is Mel's biggest schill....connect the dots. Why would they turn down an offer for a Dynatrac Elite combo, axles that they ran for over a decade without issue for axles that they know are inferior?
I appreciate your attitude towards this situation sucks that they would not replace it. They are great axles over all, I have ud60’s on my jk and have been very happy with them. Thanks for the demo on the quick removal of the hub.
I believe it was Excessive Industries if I'm not mistaken, who had UD60s on their rig a few years back, axle tubes spun from pumpkin & didn't even beat on it yet. Spicer said the same & wouldn't honor warranty. I want the crate the UDs more than what comes in the crate.
WTF...90 days, or even 3 weeks to get a replacement axle shaft is freaking crazy. I was considering Spicer on my planned new build based on EVO's recent ventures with them, BUT now.....no way. Last year I had a bend DYNATRAC axle in while in Moab....they sent me a replacement axle with 12 hours....!! No BS. I called around 4PM Pacfic time and they sent a new axle for 9am delivery the next day. I was able to drive back to OK with really no significant delays.
Thanks for understating Steve! A lot of people couldn’t understand that my frustration has been mostly with Spicers attitude, and lack of preparation to handle failures. Dynatrac has excellent customer service, can’t go wrong there!
Go dynatrac hard to break those and if you did they would cover it... A group im subscribe too there running dynatrac Dana 60 and Dana 80 costed about 18,000 buck's though.. However they where complete and ready to bolt in.. Awsome video though keep em comin
I feel your pain on the iphone issues. I hopefully will not feel your pain with replacement parts of my stock crate axles when needed. As I cannot afford new axle assembly upgrades for my 2020 2 door JL until I get it mostly paid off.
Damn. I know even the aftermarket dana 60s breaks sometimes but not from this. Hard to believe these axles was used in King of Hammers. You have every right to be upset.
Knowing they didn’t warranty your (a reputable shop owner)axles makes me think twice about the whole UD60 thing...the day you broke your joint and shafts I ripp off a upper control arm bracket on the rear UD60 ...sad how their welded faulty weld and 2 yrs of twisting (flexing) ...the front UD 60 the track bar bracket welds where broke and tearin it self from the axle ...I guess from ram (1.75) and faulty welds but who knows just glad I do a pre trip bolt and nut check before I got wheel/trail riding....but the real issue is spicer has some really piss poor customer service and welds .....as soon as I get the cash up the UD60s can go on the wife’s 2 door jk were just going to putt around the mall and dirt roads ....hope they can handle that
How the hell can they say abuse when they build them for offroad purposes? In your opinion, if you were to go with other axles, what would it be? I may be looking at swapping on my Gladiator. Great video.
Lol, I can and it’s $3200! Honestly it’ll probably never happen again. I was more pissed they wouldn’t warranty it because of “abuse” and then didn’t have any parts available for the replacement.
No, I’m not one of those guys that likes to do that. Last thing I want to do is come across like another social media wannabe looking for a handout. You wouldn’t believe how much of that is happening nowadays and I’d rather not be considered in “that” crowd lol.
@@Exodus4x4 i know what you mean, I've noticed that lately in the TH-cam community. People think there "entitled" to a certain product just because of a status or image they have in a certain community etc. I applaud you on that
You’d think they would be, but they didn’t seem to care. Trust me when I say I gave them the opportunity to take care of it. Denied the warranty over “abuse” and then didn’t have parts available.
@D H that seems to be what happened. It showed up about 4 weeks after the break which was a lot faster than they had originally said, but still shameful. They should’ve had parts on the shelf somewhere in the states.
Much respect for telling it like it is with the UD60 & not sugarcoating it.
I can't understand why certain long time Dynatrac advocates suddenly flipped the script & went with UDs on their new builds after years of talking shit about UDs on their forum.
I see where you're going with this...let's dissect shall we. Offroad Evolution installs UD60s on their rig, Eddie soon follows suit & all of a sudden Northridge does a JT giveaway & also do UD60s... and EVO suspension. NR4x4 is the biggest distributor of EVO & Eddie is Mel's biggest schill....connect the dots.
Why would they turn down an offer for a Dynatrac Elite combo, axles that they ran for over a decade without issue for axles that they know are inferior?
I could think of a few reasons lol
Now I know what not to buy.!! Thanks for sharing this with us.
Always!
I appreciate your attitude towards this situation sucks that they would not replace it. They are great axles over all, I have ud60’s on my jk and have been very happy with them. Thanks for the demo on the quick removal of the hub.
It’s the crack that will always get ya 😂😂 that’s a lot easier than I thought thanks for sharing good stuff
@Steve Tabor You are absolutely correct.....one way or another the crack always gets ya....🤣
Maybe you guys should look at going to some RCV shafts.
Well that helped with the decision process .... UH HELLO Dynatrac ??
lol, if I lived near you, You would have my business for sure. love the honesty
Thanks. It’s easy to be honest when you’re not sponsored lol.
I believe it was Excessive Industries if I'm not mistaken, who had UD60s on their rig a few years back, axle tubes spun from pumpkin & didn't even beat on it yet. Spicer said the same & wouldn't honor warranty.
I want the crate the UDs more than what comes in the crate.
WTF...90 days, or even 3 weeks to get a replacement axle shaft is freaking crazy. I was considering Spicer on my planned new build based on EVO's recent ventures with them, BUT now.....no way. Last year I had a bend DYNATRAC axle in while in Moab....they sent me a replacement axle with 12 hours....!! No BS. I called around 4PM Pacfic time and they sent a new axle for 9am delivery the next day. I was able to drive back to OK with really no significant delays.
Thanks for understating Steve! A lot of people couldn’t understand that my frustration has been mostly with Spicers attitude, and lack of preparation to handle failures. Dynatrac has excellent customer service, can’t go wrong there!
@@Exodus4x4 Keep up the great testing and reviews. You guys rock.
Fusion 4x4 would be the way to go next
He is really cleaning that jack handle in the back. Lol
Lol, he’s assembling an aluminum tie rod.
RCVs man!
even the expensive stuff breaks!
I have seen others use dana spicer and have same issues, always thought dyna trac was better.
Dynatrac is better, if not in quality then definitely in customer service.
Wonder how fusion 4x4 compares
Off topic: Did you use the stock lower shock mount for the coilovers?
Go dynatrac hard to break those and if you did they would cover it... A group im subscribe too there running dynatrac Dana 60 and Dana 80 costed about 18,000 buck's though.. However they where complete and ready to bolt in.. Awsome video though keep em comin
I feel your pain on the iphone issues. I hopefully will not feel your pain with replacement parts of my stock crate axles when needed. As I cannot afford new axle assembly upgrades for my 2020 2 door JL until I get it mostly paid off.
What torque specs did you guys use for these axles? Are they Ford ends?
Spicer should be more understanding especially if under warranty period! Makes me wanna just Go with with CVs
Anyone know the tq specs for the 6x bolts attaching spindle to knuckle?
Can u still drive home if this happens when your out
Only on if you have locking hubs, or pull the axle shaft
I'd be so pissed spending 10gs on an axle assembly, and they refused to warranty them after they didn't even last on day!
Damn. I know even the aftermarket dana 60s breaks sometimes but not from this. Hard to believe these axles was used in King of Hammers. You have every right to be upset.
Anything can break, it’s shitty customer service that isn’t cool
Base on your knuckles this job might be a fist fight for me to do!!!
Lmao i was wondering if it was the spicer axle or the p.o.s. iPhone
Is that a custom ram mount??
Yes
I got UD60’s on my JK any maintenance advice? Locking hub upgrade?
Knowing they didn’t warranty your (a reputable shop owner)axles makes me think twice about the whole UD60 thing...the day you broke your joint and shafts I ripp off a upper control arm bracket on the rear UD60 ...sad how their welded faulty weld and 2 yrs of twisting (flexing) ...the front UD 60 the track bar bracket welds where broke and tearin it self from the axle ...I guess from ram (1.75) and faulty welds but who knows just glad I do a pre trip bolt and nut check before I got wheel/trail riding....but the real issue is spicer has some really piss poor customer service and welds .....as soon as I get the cash up the UD60s can go on the wife’s 2 door jk were just going to putt around the mall and dirt roads ....hope they can handle that
I would have to put them UD60s in the rough country 07-11 jku lift kit and customer service bracket ..the very bottom of a fish barrel
How the hell can they say abuse when they build them for offroad purposes? In your opinion, if you were to go with other axles, what would it be? I may be looking at swapping on my Gladiator. Great video.
Dynatrac. They’ll run you more but you’ll get actual customer service.
@@Exodus4x4 Thanks for your input, much appreciated.
What are your thoughts , views or experience with the RCV axles?
Very strong, but expensive
Better off with RCV axles
I'd go Currie Rock Jock 70s over Dynatrac. Currie has a lot more KOH wins than than Dynatrac.
I took my Dana 60 Offroad and broke it. Oh I’m sorry, you abused it. Bull spit response.
Tell me about it. Pay all that money for a part they know will be taken off road, and then they deny any warranty claim saying it was being abused...
@@Exodus4x4 Spicer blows. I am surprised you put that POS in. BadAss Jeep would be Curries.
How come you didn’t replace em with rcv axles vs u joints
Cruz Salazar $3200 for a set of axle shafts? Nah I’m ok.
Peace of mind .. can’t put a price on it in my opinion 🤷🏼♂️
Lol, I can and it’s $3200! Honestly it’ll probably never happen again. I was more pissed they wouldn’t warranty it because of “abuse” and then didn’t have any parts available for the replacement.
Exodus Jeeps yea man ! That is BS they wouldn’t warranty it.. and for that reason alone I would stop doin business with them even if it cost me more
-1 for them to deny the warranty. Especially on such a pricey axle. Next time go prorock
Actually the only reason we didn’t go with Dynatrac was over miscommunication.
@@Exodus4x4 did you contact jim directly ? He's usually spot on
No, I’m not one of those guys that likes to do that. Last thing I want to do is come across like another social media wannabe looking for a handout. You wouldn’t believe how much of that is happening nowadays and I’d rather not be considered in “that” crowd lol.
@@Exodus4x4 i know what you mean, I've noticed that lately in the TH-cam community. People think there "entitled" to a certain product just because of a status or image they have in a certain community etc. I applaud you on that
I’ve gotten lucky on both my axle orders to work with Steve. Only wish I would’ve gone 60s the first time around.
This would be a good time for Dynatrac to spot you an axle. Spicer should be embarassed.
You’d think they would be, but they didn’t seem to care. Trust me when I say I gave them the opportunity to take care of it. Denied the warranty over “abuse” and then didn’t have parts available.
@@Exodus4x4 most likely they are waiting for the part to come in from China.
@D H that seems to be what happened. It showed up about 4 weeks after the break which was a lot faster than they had originally said, but still shameful. They should’ve had parts on the shelf somewhere in the states.