My 1996 Mitsubishi jeep J55. has 44/60 swap from a junk yard (1200$ for both) painted, de-geared , ect. along with a 4BT swap propelling 35's Project :$4500. INDESTRUCTIBLE 360°
Another great video. I was able to pick up the Dynatrac 44/60 serious performance combo for my JK for $9200 with arb air locker ( they were in stock) . I will be bolting them in this weekend.
@@mattmcdonough707 That’s who I ordered them from. I went with 4.88 and Eaton lockers. Also running 37’s. They arrived at top tier from dynatrac yesterday. Thinking I want to hit EJS but man I have a lot to get ready in 7 Sunday’s.
I got the axles for my xj from East coast gear supply. They were very nice to deal with. They'll build it however you want and it seems like with whoevers parts you want as long as it's good stuff.
@@station08 I got their dana 489 axles the rear 35 spline and the front 489. Mine were close to 11k with upgrades. I run 37s and I'm not too worried about breaking anything they are incredibly strong axles in a small package. I got ox lockers front and rear and I got the rear set 20 upgrade with disc brakes that's where they weld larger ends on the tubes to use larger bearings then the front and rear axle tubes are incredibly thick like 3/8 or 1/2 thick. My rig is set up for a mix of overland and hard trails I've tried to be careful about weight but I'm right around 5100 pounds with all my accessories and cage/armor frame stiffeners etc..
Can you drive 60/80 axles for a everyday Jeep and traveling thousands of miles? Would it be better if you put it on a trailer instead of driving it thousand a mile with the 392 or 426 Hemi. 11-27-23
Do you think the Currie LP60 (40 spline w e locker) rear axle can handle 40’s in the rocks on a JKU? I have a Tera44 with 1/2” 3.25” tubes with Revolution US forged shafts in the front right now with 37’s and only ever had a rear twisted bent Revolution shaft in the rear on my rear 44. This Currie and keeping my front axle instead of switching to UD60’s and new wheels would save me a tone of cash and time.
Great video. I had often wondered the difference. Any idea why the F9 is not more popular? Lighter and stronger, how often does that happen? What is the down side?
In this video what size tire was on the jeep that had the first set of Curries? Looks like it was a JL. Love the video and it helped me reach my decision.
I used a 78 Ford Dana 60 'sno fighter' in my FSJ Cherokee. The perches for the leaf springs had the same location as the stock Jeep, except they are on top so it was an easy way to get 6" of front lift. High pinion and king pins. Added a locker and some yukon hubs. The stock brakes are not great, they could use an upgrade. It works and is cheaper than the crate axles. Although I wish my jeep had the same level of aftermarket support as the JK/JL''s and the rest of the Wranglers!
Are UD60s with 5.38s strong enough for a 392 running 40” Nitto’s? I know a lot comes down to the driver but I wheel a lot of east coast trails (IE wheelspin) but also wheel out west 1-2x a year. Or would I be better off going with a 60/80 setup?
is the currie hd60 and lp60 for me? mostly just slow and steady crawling at the rubicon. i have a model overland JT with 39s, no lockers and not regeared at this time. im planning on my next step
Great video. So a couple years ago you broke the axle shaft on your spicer. Do you think that would have happened with any of the other axles you showed and also do you think the other companies would have honored the warranty in the same situation?
Whats “the best” suspension for a JT that doesn’t require butchering the Jeep frame or altering a brand new set of axles like these? Drilling seems ok but welding im not to keen on. I live where rust is a concern
Great Info!! I've been trying to decide which 60 axles to go with. I was leaning toward Currie already and this confirms I'm on the right track. Do you have an opinion on the strength or weakness of the high pinion rear axle? I've heard the reverse cut gears are a bit weaker on the high pinion rear. I wish they still made the F9 axles, but they aren't on the Currie website anymore. Hopefully I'll be getting in touch with you in the future for a V8 swap!
Since they are pretty close in cost, would you choose the Ultimate 60s or the semi float curries for a diesel JT on 40s ? Someome else recommended fusion axles but I cant find much info
I have a 63' Gladiator with a Dana 60 full floater in the rear & 44 in the front, would like to go disc in the rear & need the leafspring pads in front on the top of he axle.What can you suggest to me 9n this?
On the curey axles with 5 lug nuts, will the rock krawler triangulation kit work? For a Jt. I definitely would want to weld it. Is there an option to have curey install it before gearing and powder coat? This might be the option for me if I'm going to change the axles. I would want 60s all around, but I do like the fact I get to keep my wheels instead of a prorock 44 and semi float 60.
What would you recommend for my jeep gladiator rubicon just to get enough strength to mount 42" tires and save as much $$$$ as possible. Would you know total cost of install ?
Good info & video... But... for jeepers like me who are on the tightest of budgets (as my TH-cam name implies,I'm a traveling witnesser) so I'm only be able to do reclaim upgrades on my TJ...most of the axles you all have talked about cost more than my whole build & that's with the cage, rooftop tent, camping gear/heater/fridge,ect... and I've wheel'd with jeeps like the ones you show at ORPs in Mo,Tn & Ark and do just fine... Don't get me wrong...if one has money to throw around, by all means, go ahead and do them but for me I look at wheel'n much like I look at life... it's not what one has in their possession that matters but instead it's what one holds in their heart... Another words... good parts and proper maintenance will see you through out on the trails... just as the Lord will see you through in life if you let Him....
I don't know if you will get this, it's been a year but I pray you and your family is doing good and your comment is the best I've believe I've ever seen and it made watching this video all worth while even if I hated 4x4s but I don't, I've been truly Blessed with 2 old 4x4 trucks that I wouldn't trade for a new one! So thank you so much a year later! This is from one of the most poorest man in the eyes of the world but one of the most Richest, Richest, Richest man in the whole wide world!!!
UD60 all day! Best thing I did for my Jeep, I could have easily got pro rocks and I am beyond happy with them. Always go Eaton, always end up behind stuck rigs dealing with ARB issues.
6:45 that's all I needed to know. At $17,500 for axles, I'd be broke This stuff is for the hard core, sponsored, deep pocket enthusiast. I could literally build a jeep myself for that alone. Or just buy a jeep on the Facebook marketplace for less. Talk about a rip-off.
I have a JL sport with the 30/35 axles set. It is for sure the rear 35, I got unlucky with this jeep and it didn't have any of the options that bumped it up to a 44 rear... Since the currie front and rear axles reuse a lot of stock pieces, will they still work for me or do I have to purchase Rubicon knuckles and breaks for front/rear?
Hey whoa dont sleep on the 1310. I broke a 60 stub shaft with a tom woods 1310 shaft. When it finally goes, I will be going 1350, but you absolutely dont have to have a "1350 at minimum."
silly to use eaton e-lockers they unlock and re-lock when changing directions and aren't as strong as arb air lockers. you failed to mention the 9" has a 3" lower pinion position which means the driveshaft angle is worse and the driveshaft/yoke/pinion are down in the rocks.
@@Mike-wn1vfIt is literally the #1 reason I decided to trust Bubba and his team with my 392 build!! I have a lot of respect for someone who stands up for what is right and calls out the bullsh!t even if it means putting it all on the line; these values are reflected in the badass sick builds they pull off and happy return $$ customers shipping their stuff back to the shop for more sickness!!
really really like the way you have progressed in your content. Best open advice for general knowledge.
My 1996 Mitsubishi jeep J55. has 44/60 swap from a junk yard (1200$ for both) painted, de-geared , ect. along with a 4BT swap propelling 35's
Project :$4500. INDESTRUCTIBLE 360°
Too cool
I'm building an 89 hardbody with a td42 and some dana 50 ttbs (to be finished sometime this decade)
How is the turning radius with the purpose built axles? I know the Ford swaps lose some radius
How much lighter is the F9 to the D60?
Another great video. I was able to pick up the Dynatrac 44/60 serious performance combo for my JK for $9200 with arb air locker ( they were in stock) . I will be bolting them in this weekend.
Where were they in stock? Ordered my set in October. Mine are in transit now. Hoping to receive them next week. Cannot wait!
@@davidyoung30 call Zach at Top Tier suspension
What size tire are you going to run with those axles
@@outsidewithdj I have 35’s right now but I will replace them with 37’s. I don’t plan on running anything larger than that
@@mattmcdonough707 That’s who I ordered them from. I went with 4.88 and Eaton lockers. Also running 37’s. They arrived at top tier from dynatrac yesterday. Thinking I want to hit EJS but man I have a lot to get ready in 7 Sunday’s.
I got the axles for my xj from East coast gear supply. They were very nice to deal with. They'll build it however you want and it seems like with whoevers parts you want as long as it's good stuff.
What did you get ?
I get thier 8.8 with a 3 page build sheet (2,750) delivered. and planning on haveing them do me a 5 lug ball joint 60 front.
@@station08 I got their dana 489 axles the rear 35 spline and the front 489. Mine were close to 11k with upgrades. I run 37s and I'm not too worried about breaking anything they are incredibly strong axles in a small package. I got ox lockers front and rear and I got the rear set 20 upgrade with disc brakes that's where they weld larger ends on the tubes to use larger bearings then the front and rear axle tubes are incredibly thick like 3/8 or 1/2 thick. My rig is set up for a mix of overland and hard trails I've tried to be careful about weight but I'm right around 5100 pounds with all my accessories and cage/armor frame stiffeners etc..
love my Spicer UD60s, back when I started wheeling around 40 years back I blew to 9" chunks in one week glad to see they are stronger and better.
Need a set set of terra flex Dana 60 full floats for my TJ 😎
I have the UD 60’s and they are working great for me!
BTW, love the hoodie!!
Great timing, I've been talking today and last week to Dynatrac about 60's for my LJ. I'm rethinking now.
Just do tons with Artec trusses and chromoly 40 spline rear they seem to hold up really good on the TJ/LJs
Can you drive 60/80 axles for a everyday Jeep and traveling thousands of miles? Would it be better if you put it on a trailer instead of driving it thousand a mile with the 392 or 426 Hemi. 11-27-23
Man I can not wait to get a set of Dana 60’s one day 👏🏻
Do you think the Currie LP60 (40 spline w e locker) rear axle can handle 40’s in the rocks on a JKU?
I have a Tera44 with 1/2” 3.25” tubes with Revolution US forged shafts in the front right now with 37’s and only ever had a rear twisted bent Revolution shaft in the rear on my rear 44. This Currie and keeping my front axle instead of switching to UD60’s and new wheels would save me a tone of cash and time.
Yeah I do. Haven’t tried it personally but I wouldn’t be afraid to run that setup
@@Exodus4x4 Thanks for the feedback.
have you guys ever installed fusion 4x4 axles? i’ve read some good stuff about them and they have a ton of options
We’ve seen them from time to time but I don’t consider them a “mainstream” crate axle, yet.
Great video. I had often wondered the difference. Any idea why the F9 is not more popular? Lighter and stronger, how often does that happen? What is the down side?
ARB air lockers…
pinion is 3" lower the driveshaft angle is worse and the driveshaft/yoke/pinion are down in the rocks.
I’m going to buy Dinotrux pro rock 60s what size the link on the 60 should I go? Should I go stock or 72 1/2? What would you guys do?
Interesting. The 2024 392's are stated to have full float 44's in them from the factory. I wonder what the bolt pattern will end up being on those...
In this video what size tire was on the jeep that had the first set of Curries? Looks like it was a JL. Love the video and it helped me reach my decision.
When will Spicer update their crate axles to the new Advantek M250 'Dana 60' which is rated for a lot more torque?
You mean when will Jeep put it in their Wranglers
Would it be possible to only swap one axle at a time for the people who can’t afford 2 just yet?
Great video, always remember to go Dynatrac! 😎
LMAO, you might be a little biased!
@@Exodus4x4 no way...
Does the semi float rear axle use the same size bearings as the D44 or are they bigger units?
How much heavier are they? Do they increase the wt the jeep can carry?
I used a 78 Ford Dana 60 'sno fighter' in my FSJ Cherokee. The perches for the leaf springs had the same location as the stock Jeep, except they are on top so it was an easy way to get 6" of front lift. High pinion and king pins. Added a locker and some yukon hubs. The stock brakes are not great, they could use an upgrade. It works and is cheaper than the crate axles. Although I wish my jeep had the same level of aftermarket support as the JK/JL''s and the rest of the Wranglers!
Wayyy cheaper. Someone that actually searches can do this much cheaper. Not quite as clean and new but will function just as well
Excellent video with the important info needed. Thank you! Just curious….how much should I save for a 392 in a JK?
Are UD60s with 5.38s strong enough for a 392 running 40” Nitto’s? I know a lot comes down to the driver but I wheel a lot of east coast trails (IE wheelspin) but also wheel out west 1-2x a year. Or would I be better off going with a 60/80 setup?
They’re fine. Built quite a few with that combo
Last question. What is the weight difference between the currie semi float 60s and rubicon axles and would you run 40s behind the diesel with them?
The Curries will definitely weight more but I don’t know by how much. I would run them on the diesel and 40’s
is the currie hd60 and lp60 for me? mostly just slow and steady crawling at the rubicon. i have a model overland JT with 39s, no lockers and not regeared at this time. im planning on my next step
Great video. So a couple years ago you broke the axle shaft on your spicer. Do you think that would have happened with any of the other axles you showed and also do you think the other companies would have honored the warranty in the same situation?
That break could happen to anyone with any axle. I think any other company would’ve responded better.
@@Exodus4x4 14 bolt is for you (shaved 13, even better)
Why are the drag links not flipped?
Whats “the best” suspension for a JT that doesn’t require butchering the Jeep frame or altering a brand new set of axles like these?
Drilling seems ok but welding im not to keen on. I live where rust is a concern
EVO is making a bracket to correct the rear geometry, so I would go that route
Great Info!! I've been trying to decide which 60 axles to go with. I was leaning toward Currie already and this confirms I'm on the right track. Do you have an opinion on the strength or weakness of the high pinion rear axle? I've heard the reverse cut gears are a bit weaker on the high pinion rear. I wish they still made the F9 axles, but they aren't on the Currie website anymore. Hopefully I'll be getting in touch with you in the future for a V8 swap!
Since they are pretty close in cost, would you choose the Ultimate 60s or the semi float curries for a diesel JT on 40s ?
Someome else recommended fusion axles but I cant find much info
I think the Curries are a great price and what most people really need. This is a case where I think there are more pros than cons.
I have a 63' Gladiator with a Dana 60 full floater in the rear & 44 in the front, would like to go disc in the rear & need the leafspring pads in front on the top of he axle.What can you suggest to me 9n this?
On the curey axles with 5 lug nuts, will the rock krawler triangulation kit work? For a Jt. I definitely would want to weld it. Is there an option to have curey install it before gearing and powder coat? This might be the option for me if I'm going to change the axles. I would want 60s all around, but I do like the fact I get to keep my wheels instead of a prorock 44 and semi float 60.
I believe RK is working on a D60 option for their rear triangulation bracket
Does spicer offer these without brackets?
Yep, they do. Part numbers are on the website and we can get you set up with them!
What would you recommend for my jeep gladiator rubicon just to get enough strength to mount 42" tires and save as much $$$$ as possible. Would you know total cost of install ?
Good info & video...
But... for jeepers like me who are on the tightest of budgets (as my TH-cam name implies,I'm a traveling witnesser) so I'm only be able to do reclaim upgrades on my TJ...most of the axles you all have talked about cost more than my whole build & that's with the cage, rooftop tent, camping gear/heater/fridge,ect... and I've wheel'd with jeeps like the ones you show at ORPs in Mo,Tn & Ark and do just fine... Don't get me wrong...if one has money to throw around, by all means, go ahead and do them but for me I look at wheel'n much like I look at life... it's not what one has in their possession that matters but instead it's what one holds in their heart... Another words... good parts and proper maintenance will see you through out on the trails... just as the Lord will see you through in life if you let Him....
I don't know if you will get this, it's been a year but I pray you and your family is doing good and your comment is the best I've believe I've ever seen and it made watching this video all worth while even if I hated 4x4s but I don't, I've been truly Blessed with 2 old 4x4 trucks that I wouldn't trade for a new one! So thank you so much a year later! This is from one of the most poorest man in the eyes of the world but one of the most Richest, Richest, Richest man in the whole wide world!!!
UD60 all day! Best thing I did for my Jeep, I could have easily got pro rocks and I am beyond happy with them. Always go Eaton, always end up behind stuck rigs dealing with ARB issues.
Where do I get my pair of 60 axles !
Well we can definitely sell you some lol
I think I started watching a couple years ago when Lite brite had some work done?
6:45 that's all I needed to know. At $17,500 for axles, I'd be broke This stuff is for the hard core, sponsored, deep pocket enthusiast. I could literally build a jeep myself for that alone. Or just buy a jeep on the Facebook marketplace for less. Talk about a rip-off.
I have a JL sport with the 30/35 axles set. It is for sure the rear 35, I got unlucky with this jeep and it didn't have any of the options that bumped it up to a 44 rear... Since the currie front and rear axles reuse a lot of stock pieces, will they still work for me or do I have to purchase Rubicon knuckles and breaks for front/rear?
They will work for you, but you will need to buy a high clearance tie rod. Other than that, pretty much plug and play.
What about for a dodge Durango?
Great video!!! As always, very helpful info
Hey Bubba, how’s the new shop coming along??
Slowly. Very, very, sloooooowwwwlllyyyy
@@Exodus4x4 where’s the new shop
Hey whoa dont sleep on the 1310. I broke a 60 stub shaft with a tom woods 1310 shaft. When it finally goes, I will be going 1350, but you absolutely dont have to have a "1350 at minimum."
Use what works for you, but I've seen enough 1310's fail to know what works best for these setups.
Great review, thank you
Thanks for the video very instructive.
Those F9”s drool
Do you guys do hemi conversions? 👀 I just found your channel and now I want y’all to do all of my work 😂
I commented too soon, I see you guys do pretty much ANYthing to Jeeps.. I’ll definitely be reaching out..
Anyone know what tie rod that is?
First recommendation is a set of Spicer units totaling $18000 at the moment new. And you wonder why people source D60's from other place lol
Great info here, thanks!
Seriously wondering what a set of Ud60s would cost
Depends on what day it is!
@@Exodus4x4 Ok Tuesday next week
I went with wide open designs dana 80s and couldent be happier.
silly to use eaton e-lockers they unlock and re-lock when changing directions and aren't as strong as arb air lockers.
you failed to mention the 9" has a 3" lower pinion position which means the driveshaft angle is worse and the driveshaft/yoke/pinion are down in the rocks.
Thanks GREAT JOB
The dude almost popped back of his head at 1:12.
😂😂😂😂😂
Wat about teraflexes ? 😔
If they aren't in this video.....
@@Exodus4x4 starting to see a ton of $100k Jeeps running them here in UT, but I wonder if they got a killer deal on them
What is your favorite? Sounds like the 3 Currie…
Boom! Great video, Love my SPicer ud 44! #jeepenvy
Dynatrac guy here!
Bubba mentions his JK tie rod a couple of times. I've beaten the crap out of mine. Still perfectly straight.
Are you not a fan of Fusion? No mention of them and a lot of people run them.
Hardly see them. I do see the East Coast Gear Supply axles often and they look eerily similar, hint hint
TJ ?
1:13 bump ouch
I would just do 05+ super duty axles and save a ton of money. Unless your hard on rig a regular 60’s stock will work for 95% all people out there
those are not bolt on, and they are full width, not stock Jeep width.
Fusion
Nice axle pr0n!
I wonder if I can gofundme for the first $25K for 2 axles. Anybody tried that approach?
@8:50 only $ 12,500 lmao
those prices wtf
only 12000 I think I have enough change in my couch.
“That much horse power and twerk”
12,500$ for a axle , my whole truck don’t cost that much lol
Ya but 17,000 seems steep
America 🇺🇸 💪🏼🔧🔩🤙🏼
Stock axles good to a 39" tire🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Only 12,500.00😂
Great video until I saw the back of your hoodie at @7:57. Super lame.
To each their own.
@@Exodus4x4 Even a bigger fan now.
This is an off road shop, where do you expect their politics to lean? One side always is trying to shut down off roading.
Hey, your vote shut down a shit ton of good trails in Utah... thanks jackass.
@@Mike-wn1vfIt is literally the #1 reason I decided to trust Bubba and his team with my 392 build!! I have a lot of respect for someone who stands up for what is right and calls out the bullsh!t even if it means putting it all on the line; these values are reflected in the badass sick builds they pull off and happy return $$ customers shipping their stuff back to the shop for more sickness!!
$17500.00? paid $5500.00 for my 12valve lol
If your buying dana 60s for a jeep your doing it wrong.
Imagine those Currie extreme 60s with portals.
He didn't bring up fusion axles 🫤