To Back Or Not To Back - Dante's Inferno, Street Masters, Vampire The Masquerade & More!!!

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    In which I talk about the latest batch of Kickstarter games, brief overviews of the campaigns and whether or not they are games that will hold their values. A whole bunch of links below :)
    TimeStamps:
    0:00:00 - Introduction
    0:00:40 - Cult of the Now
    Board Game Adjacent
    0:01:50 - Marvel Multiverse RPG - Deluxe Starter Set
    Cancelled & Not Yet Funding
    0:04:02 - Zombie Horde
    New Campaigns
    0:05:28 - DANTE: Inferno
    0:11:32 - Forks: 2nd Edition
    0:13:40 - Button Shy Reprint Campaign Spring 2024
    0:17:45 - Street Masters: Champion Edition
    0:24:40 - Black Rose Wars: Rebirth
    0:29:40 - Inferno Deluxe Edition
    0:33:55 - Boardquest: Tales of Liria
    0:36:22 - Ace of Aces: Powerhouse Series Deluxe Edition
    0:40:10 - Forgeflame
    0:43:45 - Everstone: Discovering Ignis
    0:45:50 - Vampire: The Masquerade - CHAPTERS
    0:50:40 - Biome
    0:54:30 - Picks of the Week
    0:55:10 - Upcoming Campaigns
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    Marvel Multiverse RPG - Deluxe Starter Set - gamefound.com/en/projects/cmo...
    Zombie Horde - www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
    DANTE: Inferno - gamefound.com/en/projects/wea...
    Forks: 2nd Edition - www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
    Button Shy Reprint Campaign Spring 2024 - gamefound.com/en/projects/but...
    Street Masters: Champion Edition - www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
    Black Rose Wars: Rebirth - gamefound.com/en/projects/lms...
    Inferno Deluxe Edition - gamefound.com/en/projects/red...
    Boardquest: Tales of Liria - www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
    Ace of Aces: Powerhouse Series Deluxe Edition - www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
    Forgeflame - www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
    Everstone: Discovering Ignis - www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
    Vampire: The Masquerade - CHAPTERS - www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
    Biome - www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
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ความคิดเห็น • 83

  • @NamaTiti
    @NamaTiti 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I think I’m done backing games. I’m tired of these companies saying how much cheaper it is to buy it now and then find out the retail version is anywhere from $20-$40 cheaper. For me I’d rather just wait for the retail version, especially if I’m not sure if the game is going to be good.

    • @protoman504
      @protoman504 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah but it really depends, if you're just trying to get the base game yeah you're doing it wrong. I'm backing aeons end descent because I want the play mats and those sell for too much secondhand. $69 isn't bad for the base game and two expansions but you get ripped off by shipping so really only worth it if you want to get mats, accessory packs, and promos that get a jacked up on prices after. Tldr only back a game if you're getting stuff besides base game because shipping kills any deal you think you're getting.

    • @tawink
      @tawink 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea if you don't care about crowdfunding exclusives then just wait for retail. CMON loves to make a ton of exclusives like in Marvel Zombies.

    • @gregorys9629
      @gregorys9629 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The increased shipping costs cancel out the discounts on many base pledges.

    • @yeli14
      @yeli14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      For me it has to give some serious upgrades

    • @rawkyle9385
      @rawkyle9385 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It depends on the game. I saved money backing Earthborne Rangers during the first campaign. I lost money because I didn’t back the first campaign of Oathsworn. It really depends on the game

  • @ramezware
    @ramezware 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Behsaad from Boardquest here: thanks for covering us and for anyone interested in our game we have a TTS and a Steam demo linked on our campaign page.
    Boardquest is inspired by board games like Warchest or Mage Knight as well as video games like the HOMM series or Warcraft 3. We set out to create a unique blend of our favorite mechanics and we would love you to try it out for yourself!

    • @mglittle37
      @mglittle37 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think this is Alex's friend, who just gave away a copy, th-cam.com/video/UouTmCZljPI/w-d-xo.html

  • @Wealtharch
    @Wealtharch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks so much for covering Forks. I really appreciate your insights.
    So many interesting games in this bunch. I’m trying to exercise self-discipline and hopefully only back Forks.

  • @ScytheNoire
    @ScytheNoire 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "There will be mistakes, but at least there will be fewer mistakes than the first edition."
    High praise. :)

  • @michaeledmonds4849
    @michaeledmonds4849 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I was very interested in Dante...until the price of the Core box (standees only!), followed by nearly being double to get the minis.

    • @michaeledmonds4849
      @michaeledmonds4849 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      unlike Oathsworn (which came with minis for the player characters), Dante has zero minis without getting the 2nd tier.

    • @AlwayzFresh
      @AlwayzFresh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaeledmonds4849 That Oathsworn pledge was amazing value, and those mini's are great!

    • @devonhickey3302
      @devonhickey3302 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I unfollowed Dante after launch because of the price and eta. Doubt it will deliver before 2026. 🤷‍♂️

    • @kanalune
      @kanalune 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, I was stoked pre campaign and I was expecting it to actually be more expensive, but when I really sat and looked at everything I decided to drop my pledge.

  • @egon4564
    @egon4564 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish the new street masters expansion listed everything included. Even it was just generic details like the number of fighters and enemies. Rolling out one new item each day really took the excitement out for me.

  • @HansJoachimMaier
    @HansJoachimMaier 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am tempted to back Vampire. I met my wife while playing the vampire RPG...

  • @Poiuytrew.Q
    @Poiuytrew.Q 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like smaller box campaigns because they are more affordable. And I like Indie campaigns because I’m more likely to back them. I’m glad someone mentioned Forks! (I don’t think it was me…😅)

  • @mitchellryan515
    @mitchellryan515 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m quite torn on Dante Inferno. I have concerns about the longevity and given there has only been one scenario seen by content creators (as far as I am aware) I worry it’ll be a bit repetitive. Don’t get wrong, some mechanics seem fun and unique but not wonderful at the cost of/ value. I can’t see it being good value, but it could be that I don’t have the cash to throw about on endless games and have to consider things more. Am I missing something or just plain wrong?

  • @utahman06
    @utahman06 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dante has really turned me off with the high price tag for few minis plus that shipping is eye popping. I don’t blame them for the shipping, it’s becoming a huge hindrance for me backing crowdfunding now. Just not tenable.

  • @joachim4889
    @joachim4889 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I never really encountered Street masters, which is probably a good thing, regarding the blacklist fiasco. but now, after trying it due to the app, i will most likely get the all in. While i definitely don't need everything, mist boxes contain some stuff that i want 😅

  • @JJ_TheGreat
    @JJ_TheGreat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    0:27 LOL 😂
    56 minute video!!!!

  • @successfulgeek
    @successfulgeek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    X-23 is in the movie Logan. She is the female wolverine.

    • @Gamebent1
      @Gamebent1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, she was created using Logan's DNA

    • @successfulgeek
      @successfulgeek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@Gamebent1 Yeah I was trying not to spoil if people didn't know.

    • @jokerES2
      @jokerES2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, Marvel Champions already has an X-23 hero pack, so she's definitely already in the Marvel Universe.

  • @JM32JM32
    @JM32JM32 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vampire the Masquerade's new digital edition sells me on it, for narrative games digital integration is the way to go

  • @AlBundy4td
    @AlBundy4td 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In currently for Core with D Inferno bypassing minis. Thought about the extra characters but reality - they’ll ever leave the box.

  • @JeremyPass
    @JeremyPass 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    31:10 - Still waiting on you to do Watch This or That: Armaggedon vs. Deep Impact

  • @tonybowers9490
    @tonybowers9490 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m a huge fan of Oathsworn, so it’s neat to hear - how does game x compare to Oathsworn?

  • @brett232
    @brett232 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    was keen for blackrose wars but money was an issue when it first came out, but now I'm in a better place, Im just hitting up my local store for the base and apocalypse as that will be so much more then what Ill ever need for this game.

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you're in a better place!

  • @mglittle37
    @mglittle37 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i literally just had squirrel food delivered for a friend who's visiting, who smokes. I might have to send it back lol.

  • @CheddahSlammer
    @CheddahSlammer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if Ludus Magnus Studio's is using the selling of the extra copies at a higher price point to actually pay the shipping for backers of the original campaigns.

    • @Solmead
      @Solmead 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As one of the backers of the original campaign I wonder the same thing

  • @Rajja29
    @Rajja29 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blacklist still exists and is working on Lasting Tales yet.

  • @warpo007
    @warpo007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so many RPG's... not enough days of the year to play them all.

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And board games and books and movies and TV shows etc etc 🙂

  • @TurboShadowViper
    @TurboShadowViper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i know this is (potentially) a dumb question but how does payment work for these crowdfunding type campaigns I've seen a few things i want to buy recently but a few special circumstances might make it hard not knowing when ill be charged etc. the shipping delay isn't a problem but yeah thought I'd ask people that likely know more than me😁

  • @Luke_L
    @Luke_L 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seeing a project partnering with LaunchBoom is a red flag for me. Typically they push the $1 pre-order. And I don’t want a portion of my pledge going to a marketing company that doesn’t care about me as a backer.

  • @AlwayzFresh
    @AlwayzFresh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Inferno is looking good at the very base level, anything more seems a bit of a waste. I have not been into mini's for years now so very happy to have a non miniature version available. I have never played any campaign game more than once, and most less. Thank you for the great advice in skipping the extras. Currently backing base + Foreteller narration at 10 x $16CAD monthly installments.

  • @StevenWard
    @StevenWard 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you use the WD40 that's behind you for Alex? I can't think of a single game where I'd need to use that :) Another great set of reviews btw thanks

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My chair squeaks :)

  • @WadeTripp
    @WadeTripp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Female Wolverine was in Logan, and is a clone version and has been around for 10+ years

  • @xtrem5428
    @xtrem5428 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both Dante and Street Masters look promising, but I'm on the fence for them both.

  • @ScytheNoire
    @ScytheNoire 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Inferno is just the type of theme I love in a game, and I prefer euro's, so that's the only interesting one last week.
    This week though has a few bangers: FLOE, Ostia Pirates, and Thunder Road Vendetta: Carnival of Chaos.

  • @1AngelAlita
    @1AngelAlita 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I sure hope Blacklist Games still exist, I'm waiting for Lasting Tales to be delivered. Of course, at this point it's not very probable. After all, Sadler "we were just regular employes and didn't even know who we were working for" brothers are now a part of the Steamforged Street Masters...

  • @DukeJohnny
    @DukeJohnny 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Deep Rock Galactic big box on the shelf puts a smile on my face - I enjoy that funn "little" board game with my friends very much :)

  • @TheHipHopapotimus
    @TheHipHopapotimus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Examples of The movies coming out at the same time… I’ll go first: Armageddon and Deep Impact! They are so damn similar.

  • @StormWildSpace
    @StormWildSpace 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Female wolverine?! That's X23, she was in Logan as a child.

  • @JoeHuddleston
    @JoeHuddleston 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding the art for Boardquest, it looks like a nod to old-school D&D.

  • @thehandoflenin
    @thehandoflenin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not wanting to be crazy but why does it matter if any board game holds it price? Surely this is a zero factor if to back or not back a game! You back a game because you want to play it not because it maybe worth something on the second hand market. In-fact, I'd expect most board games on the secondhand market to have a less value when selling pre-used.

  • @DumahAtreides
    @DumahAtreides 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Female Wolverine = X23. She's been around awhile including in the Logan movie.

  • @john9801
    @john9801 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking at the past few "to back or not to back" videos, you never covered Altered TCG.
    Is there a reason?

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did! A few weeks back

    • @john9801
      @john9801 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BoardGameCo only found it mentioned in the "upcoming campaigns" shortly.
      Hmmm

    • @garytheosophilus
      @garytheosophilus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3:39 of the Feb 12 To Back or Not to Back

    • @john9801
      @john9801 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@garytheosophilus thanks, I did not find it because it doesn't have a chapter ...

    • @garytheosophilus
      @garytheosophilus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TCGs, RPGs, tables, and accessories are often (always?) covered under Board Game Adjacent.

  • @robtrot
    @robtrot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    X-23 is basically female wolverine already

  • @williamblack6912
    @williamblack6912 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've seen the content of Black Rose wars for 2/3 of the price of the new campaign on the second hand market 250-300 for the same stuff. So no real reason to back there.

    • @db8094
      @db8094 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you've seen rebirth for sale or the original BRW?

    • @williamblack6912
      @williamblack6912 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@db8094 Rebirth

    • @williamblack6912
      @williamblack6912 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@db8094 The second Black Rose Wars Rebirth.

  • @warpo007
    @warpo007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it wasn't until i saw your last name written down somewhere that i worked out what you're saying. you talk so fast, Alex.

  • @supremacysun
    @supremacysun 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Squirrel tastes better.

  • @nirszi
    @nirszi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nothing interests me this week, I looked into both Inferno games as I like the theme but the gameplay of neither is compelling.

  • @mithrandir510
    @mithrandir510 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the joke :)

  • @carloscnd1774
    @carloscnd1774 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kingfire Chronicles: 1$ early access. Is this the new FOMO tendency now?

    • @BoardGameCo
      @BoardGameCo  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sadly yes

  • @Dratio
    @Dratio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Street masters is fun but I wish they went with colorful standees instead of minis. Monster minis can be identified by their unique shapes but when most of your minis are just variations of very fit, grey humans they're kind of hard to differentiate from each other at that scale.

  • @tyroneboyd5986
    @tyroneboyd5986 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I laugh at the "not getting your game for a year, year and a half." It's more like 2-3 years for a crowd funded game.

  • @shocknawe
    @shocknawe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it just FOMO that drives you to gamble so much money away dear reader?
    There are hundreds of games out that you haven’t even HEARD of that you can find at least ONE review of to AT LEAST have an idea of what you are getting into, but you’d rather pay far more to get something a year or two from now?
    Why? I am actually curious.
    Please, stop backing kickstarter games, for you own sake.
    Get an old kickstarter game. One that is out. Then get its KS exclusives from ebay or whatever.
    Chances are, you aren’t made of money and the latter suggestion I just did will probably bring you far more enjoyment.

    • @kyneanderson5851
      @kyneanderson5851 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Depends entirely on the Kickstarter. I didn’t do the marvel zombies kickstarter and I’m buying things piecemeal. I would have saved money and gotten more I did the kickstarter. It entirely depends on what the kickstarter is and how well you know yourself. You need to balance the fear of missing out with what you actually want. And understanding what you will actually play with in the game and what will actually affect gameplay. Sometimes kickstarting gives you nothing. Sometimes, it gives you a lot. And some companies certainly give you more than others.

    • @db8094
      @db8094 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      many reasons to back a particular Kickstarter. support the company, a good campaign, etc.

    • @Sini-Haapanen
      @Sini-Haapanen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My main reasons to back a game are most of the time availability, extras and price (though prices have risen drastically recent years, so retail might be the best option now).
      Unfortunately I live in a small and remote country, so it's never certain for a crowdfunded game hitting retail anywhere near me. Same goes for the availability of hunting for the game or extras later on, especially if the game didn't have a lot of backers so there's not many second hand copies around. And sometimes you just know you want those deluxe bits if you're gonna get the game.
      But I have stopped backing for the most part, unless something really grabs my interest.