Do Inversions Make Coasters Better?
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Hope all of you lovely people are doing okay! After my second trip I just realised how much I don't really understand the hype around the smiler and I wanted to discuss inversions as a whole. Don't get me wrong its great to look at and how on earth did they fit all of that in there, but its not for me :)
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Like any element, inversions can be used for great effect and are best when varied and balanced.
Oh yes! for sure, totally agree :D
my first inversion coaster was the smiler lol
you are a specimen!
same
i think smiler mightve been my first ever rollercoaster with THAT much inversions . i have never been on a coaster as intense as that until i went on it... 5 times in 1 day
it was actually relaxing
LMAO oh dear, to me I don't find it intense I just find it unpleasant. Front row is the place to be for sure! Glad you had a great time though :D
this is such an underated channel 😭
AGHHH YOU ARE SO CUTE THANK YOU!
Me personally, my favorite inversions are B&M invert ones. Something about being ripped through tight vertical loops and zero g rolls and the sense of danger with your legs dangling and feet under the track is really fun to me.
@@brutalhellhamerer Same here they feel very intense in G force and usually transition the best!
My first coaster that inverted was icon i think the ride does the heartline role really good. This channel is so underated btw keep up the good work
@@luckylauchie5646 I appreciate you so much
Great video, I agree with most of your points. Very funny editing as well, looking forward to the next one! My favourite roller coasters have maximum 4 inversions pretty much, and only 4 of my top ten have any at all, those being maverick, steel vengeance, hyperia, and storm chaser (Kentucky kingdom). Liked and subscribed, good job!
Ahhh thank you so much for your feedback I really appreciate it
honestly, the best coaster that inverts is definitely nemesis
@@user-tv7qn1vv3u i agree :3
I supposed a practical way of trying to break the smiler record is to make a mobius loop dueling coaster with 8 inversions on each side. That way the ride is long but you can also do some creative things with the dueling, like what's done on Twisted Colossus.
that actually sounds like a great idea! lots of inversions can work but the ride has to be longer haha! :D
Velocicoaster is still as amazing as when I first rode it years ago. Great experience with no memorable roughness when I've been on the front and back rows, and yes that Mosasaurus is more insane that it looks, you are actually thrown with force out of your seat into the lap bar restraint it's amazing.
Shoutout to Iron Gwazi though, it was my first and still currently the only RMC I've been able to ride and with my first experience I was at a loss for words on how smooth a rollercoaster could be, the entire thing is just silky smooth the whole way with no jitters or bumps and that part blew me away just as much as the ride itself, and the smoothness was still there a year later. Why we don't have an RMC anywhere in the UK is really annoying though. It doesn't have to be anything super big or special just please any RMC xD
real, level out rumba rapids and give us an rmc PLEASE LMAOO. That's really great to know thank you for telling me about both coasters! they are still on my bucket list unfortunately haha never done either yet :D
also that's really odd I thought that rmcs would be similar to woodies, that's crazy that they are smooth now I'm more excited to try it :O
@@Q4Coasters I think over a long period of time they do begin to show signs of roughness at least what I remember hearing from Coaster Studios on old RMC's. But from my experiences Iron Gwazi was legitimately perfect in smoothness. Granted I was in the front row for all these rides but it still just shocks me each time
@@Q4Coasters There is one thing I've just found kind of interesting about what I've seen and heard about Velocicoaster's Intensity. My Dad and I rode it together and we had complete polar opposite opinions where I loved everything about it and he hated everything about it. And my mom standing at the exit was hearing complete opposite opinions from those who've rode it saying it was the best and those saying never again.
Though the one thing that puzzled me was my Dad and someone else who we met that said Hulk is a way less intense ride which I cannot fully understand as Hulk really pushes on you hard with the forces at times. I guess maybe because there's little breaks between each part while Velocicoaster is a continuous adrenaline rush but doesn't have that same strong punch as hulk. I don't know if that makes any sense.
Btw not saying Hulk is bad it's great but I would definitely consider it more punchy in it's forces
@@sapphirestorm9964 no I totally get what you are saying! I can imagine velocicoaster is very intense because of the launches throughout! Does hulk only have the one launch at the start? I can’t remember sorry haha! Thats very interesting i love hearing peoples thoughts but I wish i had more to add, i cant comment because I haven’t done either!
the smiler was my favourite coaster at alton towers, i was lucky to be put in the front seat (as terrified as i was) which i hear is the smoothest. I also dont get motion sick, so being flipped around constantly was actually very enjoyable. galactica second, wickerman third. i think the smiler only gets away with 14 inversions because of the clever theming. the extremely industrial theme with the giant spider structure gives it my favourite theming (until they hopefully refurbish galactica... poor puddle)
@@Saismee i know! Justice for Galactica. To me the Smiler is a sensory overload but its supposed to be so I can just pass it off as not for me! Its great to look at off ride though and yes you are right front row is like the only good seat. Lord almighty 3 and 4 are terrible. I spent most of my time on smiler complaining rather than enjoying it haha.
But of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and thats what makes it interesting!
My favorite coaster is speed monster at tusenfryd in Norway
3 inversions really smooth really good launch great forces it’s so good
For me the smiler just feels like almost same inversion every time, hyperia uses such interesting inversions and all of them are far better then anything on the smiler
agreed, hyperia is a great example of intensity without the need for many inversions! the smiler is trying too hard ahaha
My favourite coaters with inversions are Nemisis Reborn which does them so smoothly that you don't notice them. Galactica was great too but due to the trains the inversons are very different feel. I honestly think its the ideal inverson type for a family coaster.
I personally don't like hang time that much especially if its snappy.
Do like Wicker Man, like less intense ones like Vampire too.
totally agreed with you on your opinions! I love galactica but it gets a lot of hate. ButI still think its a very smooth great prototype coaster, we wouldnt have Manta at sea world without it and of course lots of others! Nemesis Reborn is a world class coaster imo I just love the whole experience :D
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Again, as this does happen as I am not as active on this platform as I'd like to be in honesty, I am refreshed to see a new channel with yappy content about rollercoasters!
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@@nnemmesiss thats so fine and thank you for all the generous words! You are too kind haha. Mr fusion is a great guy thank you for coming to watch my stuff :)
I love the smiler
First half is better than the second!
@@Q4Coasters yea
My first inverting coaster was baron 1898.cant even remember going through the inversions😂😂
@@Billnyethecoasterguy ahaha id love to try that one!
My first coaster with inversions was blue fire at Europa Park. My favorite Coaster is at the same park (Voltron) and has 7 inversions. (Also very good video!)
Thank you so much :3
I'd argue that Colossus is was more repetitive than the Smiler when it comes to inversions!
I think inversions can make roller coasters better, if they're used in the right place. Inversions for the sake of inversions aren't great. Inversions to provide unique forces or more compact layouts are great!
@@coasterbot oh wow I’m a big fan of your videos man! Thats so cool that you’ve watched my stuff.
For me colossus wins over the smiler because I genuinely think its more comfortable but obviously lots of people don’t agree with that haha.
But so true I agree that they should have a purpose, I prefer the first half of colossus over the second but I still enjoy being in a washing machine for a bit!
My first inverting coaster was the smiler 😂😂
Same
My first inverting coaster was the original Nemesis back in 2015
My favourite non-inverting coaster (and favourite coaster all together) is Shambhala at PortAventura, which being a hyper coaster is more airtime focused
Another good example of a major coaster type without inversions are B&M Hypers, such as Mako at Seaworld Orlando. It’s thrilling and fun without inverting
@@Liight yes I totally forgot to mention hypers! I didn’t actually remember that Mako didn’t have any inversions. What a beauty of a coaster that is. Its on my bucket list for sure!
Is it me or is furius baco actually graceful with the hangtime on the BARREL-roll, get it?
@@nothingisnissimgcoolio i get it thats very funny. Love myself a good dad joke LMAOO
0:02 I dont know bout you guys, but CHEESE AND ONIONS ARE THE BEST INVERSIONS❗❗❗
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you are WAY too kind thank you so much for saying that. ALSO REAL cheese and onion rolls are the best type of inversion LMAOO
@@Q4Coasters yessir, we love cheese and onion 🔥
My first inversion was on galactica! I agree smiler is too much as I hurt my back on the 12th inversion!
second half is brutal. Love the airtime hills though! Galactica is so over hated its crazy
@@Q4Coasters it seriously is tho. First time riding aswell. And I agree galactica is underrated ppl started hating on it aswell for no reason!
Personally, I prefer shoulder restraints over lap bars by a million miles, and if a coaster has inversions it more often than not has shoulder restraints lol
honestly I'm with you my favourite being the B&M vest restraints but a lot of newer generation coasters use lapbars, for example Hyperia the tallest and fastest ride in the UK only has a lap bar :O!
the smiler was my first rollercoaster so i dont really get why people hate inversions (except if they get headaches from them)
inversions aren’t bad on their own but when they aren’t used to their full potential they loose meaning and are pointless of being there if that makes sense? Less is more
They come in and out of style. The biggest coasters were all loopers back in the 1980s, then "hypercoasters" came along and for a while they usually had no inversions. But lately things have been changing back.
The coaster with the most inversions I've ridden is Dragon Khan at PortAventura which has 8, and they're all really forceful, and I came off dizzy and thinking it was too many. If they'd let off the last couple I think it would have been perfect for me.
I like the way RMC does it with their hybrids-- they're mostly focused on crazy airtime but they put in 3 or 4 rolls or stalls to sort of add variety. It's a nice balance.
Same! My first incverting coaster was also mandrill!
@@CoasterChroniclesUK You are such a chad for that. I respect you 😤🫶🏻
Same here
I love inversions but not because of positive g’s instead I love hang time.
Also my three favourite rollercoasters don’t have inversions which is a coincidence !! (Kondaa, Stealth, Wickerman)
haha that's so respectable Id love to try konda! and Wickerman is in my top 10. Stealth is too intense for me unfortunately LMAOO but I have tried it and I can see the appeal. That's why i love wing coasters so much the hang time is nuts
My first inverting roller coaster is Rock N Roller Coaster.
never done it I'd love to try it same with the coaster that's your pfp ahaha!
Same
Huge coaster fan here. Don't care for inversions. Too loopy. I want speed, airtime and falls.
@@NelsonMontana1234 real same here 4/5 is enough for me
Smiler is my second favourite ride in the country, I know there's 5 corkscrews but I don't find the ride too repetitive I like the range of different inversions and I haven't tried colossus as I'm too tall to fit on it.
I absolutely love Inversions but even then 50% of my top 10 coasters don't have any inversions at all i.e taron, redforce, Goliath (holland), Shambhala, Troy.
I think RMC are the best at mixing airtime and mesmerising inversions into a glass smooth cohesive layout.
@@Rabbitzz completely agree about the rmcs they have the most variety by far! Thats great to know, i dont really like the smiler it gets a bit too repetitive and its been riding quite rough recently, but yeah i actually didn’t realise how many inversions my favourite rides had until I looked at my top 10 and most only have 4-5
I dont have experience with coasters outside of the UK though! Ive only been to Legoland Billund thats the only park I’ve visited thats not in the UK because I loved lego so I was taken for my birthday! So my top 10 wont be the as varied
@@Q4Coasters yea the smiler definitely isn't smooth I've only had one really bad ride on it a couple years ago but the odd jolts don't bother me I absolutely love the double corkscrew at the end just the exit of the cobra roll that gets ya 😆.
And that's fair I've only recently started getting to more abroad parks I've done 9 new ones this year, 7 of those with a company called coaster breaks which I highly recommend looking into if you ever have the spare cash it was hell of an experience doing 7 parks in 7 days.
@@Rabbitzz that sounds great! Thank you so much for the recommendation I’ll definitely look into it :D
@@Q4Coasters yea no probs ever want anymore recommendations or anything lemme know :)
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My first inverted coasters was air and original nemesis
@@seandj365 very great choices! I think if i lived closer galactica would definitely be my first invert
4:31 GET THAT BABY ON THE SMILER!!!
Start them young! :O
Now I’ve found Q4 coasters on TH-cam now and my first coaster with inversions was In 2019 on infusion at BPB
@@Fleetblase07 bros on a mission 😭😭. Oh no you poor thing heres a cupcake
i think having inversions on a ride makes it good if they actually do something. Nemesis reborn has whippy corkscrews, an amazing 0g and ofc the loop. The smilers only memorable moments are the first inversion and the cobra roll (for that damn jolt) the corkscrews on the smiler feel like nothing compared to nemesis
totally agree with you, the airtime and indoor section on the smiler is the only GOOD memorable part the rest of it blurrs because its just continuous and usually hurts! this is why I enjoy wing coasters and RMC's so much it never feels like they are doing it for the sake of it there is thought behind it! Also I agree with you I love nemesis reborn its still my number 1 because of its pacing and surroundings/theming
My first inversion coaster was og nemesis
WHAT A FANTASTIC CHOICE!
Smiler for me is an experience in and of itself. Almost like how a flat ride might aim to disorient.
Do I think it's the hallmark of good coaster design? No. Do I enjoy it for what it is? Yes.
I think there are coasters that are demonstrably worse off for chasing inversion records, but inversions definitely can have their place. I can't imagine nemesis without inversions, it would be such a different ride experience.
But I also don't think inversions are necessary for thrill. I very much don't agree with people who say Taron needs an inversion.
totally agreed! you make some great points not every coaster needs inversions like i discussed but I didn't mean that we don't need them at all.
Like any element we need variety for it to be enjoyable and anyway different people like different things meaning some will prefer airtime over positive or negative G's.
But I love that you mentioned Taron that's a great example that I should have used in my video tbh ahahaha!
The Smiler just definitely isn't for me but its amazing to look at. I love watching it and its crazy how they fit something like that into such a small space :D
@Q4Coasters So true about preferring different things! Mind you, I'm the weirdo that likes the last two inversions on Smiler which I'm fairly sure most (sane) people dislike
@@ScaredyCatRidesRides oh no the actual inversion is fine its just a bit rough its more the cobra roll that hurts more like the second half of it haha! but I like colossus so I can't really say much tbh ahahha
@Q4Coasters lol! My issue with Colossus is that it's uncomfortable trains before you've even left the station. I don't mind the layout or the roughness on the layout but the trains just suck
@@ScaredyCatRidesRides oh yeah 100% the trains suck haha, they should be replaced then more people would enjoy it!
Mine was Nemesis inferno. What a great start🙄
Are you not a fan :O I love nemesis inferno :)
my favourite is wickerman with 0 inversions. I get the appeal of inversions but I don't see them as necessary at all. I went on the smiler just to say I had but its not going to be the top of my to do list when I next go
Of course! Wickerman is such a great fast paced coaster I can understand why its not up your alley! I think it just depends on how they are used. Variety of inversions really help! :)
I like the smiler because there is a variety of inversions, unlike colossus which gets past the corkscrew and goes: ‘fuck it, 5 barrel rolls will do the job’
Also my no1 is a 4D coaster which has 14 inversions and the smiler is also in my top 10 so I like inversions but I also like most other things that coasters do
@@iliketrains3546 well I wouldn’t say that the smiler has a variety. They are fairly similar. Smiler has a lot of duplicate inversions too. They are both quite repetitive! I like the rolls as they are fun and not painful unlike smilers ones
The heartline rolls are as iconic as the coaster itself! I would not like 4D coaster lmao they are too much but thanks for watching :D
@@Q4Coasters colossus has very standard inversions though, the smiler has pretty unique ones like a variation of the barrel roll down drop as well as the sea serpent roll and Staffordshire knot. Also I would say the only jolty inversion on the smiler is the cobra roll, the rest of it is fine.
@@iliketrains3546 I find the whole of the second section slightly unbearable. I just prefer colossus also they were built at different times so of course the smiler is going to be more innovative. The smiler was also a record breaking coaster so they were going to make it look cool
@@iliketrains3546 i would argue smiler is more repetitive as it has 3 corkscrews, 2 side winders and 2 dive loops
@@Q4Coasters colossus has 2 corkscrews and 5 consecutive barrel rolls so it is definitely more repetitive but I guess the smiler does the same motions more times
My first one was Millennium at Fantasy Island lol
@@billieseyelashesflewoff I’ve heard that its very smooth? 👀
When I went on 13 at Alton towers I had people in front of me saying it’s called 13 because it’s got 13 inversions 😂😂😂
@@Stormy-bw2cz LMAO WHAT HAHAHA thats so funny did anyone believe them?
@@Q4Coasters yes their mom lol
The act of inverting itself is really just not that interesting to me, it's what it makes the riders feel that can make an inversion good. It's why I don't like B&Ms much. Yeah I'm inverting, but all B&Ms do is either make you feel nothing, or make you feel positive Gs. Hangtime and airtime are nonexistent on their rides, which makes their inversion spam especially boring.
Much like with airtime hills, turns, turnarounds, etc it's the shaping of the track and the speed at which you take it that determines whether an inversion is good or not. Helix's norwegian loop is awesome because it stomps you into your seat while the rest of the ride is more airtime focused, which makes it a nice change of pace. I also love Zadra's stall because of the unreal size of the thing.
You are so right for this! I feel like a lot of american B&M inverts are quite plain and while they might serve in forces they dont have much theming and are missing that near miss element that we have a lot of the time in europe and the UK. I still think Nemesis reborn and Black Mamba at Phantasia land are the best examples of inverts because of how close you get to everything around you. I love B&M coasters here in the UK because we are lacking in space so they are always forced to do something more creative than just plonk it on a space of land! I think RMC's are a great example of how to do inversions right but I am still a sucker for wing coaster inversions I JUST LOVE HANGTIME :O
I honestly don’t know why colossus gets so much hate, it’s a lil rough but apart from that it’s generally a really enjoyable experience. (Great vid btw)
Thank you so much for your kind words! I will never understand when people praise SAW the Ride at the same park! I love the planting around colossus it really looks like its part of a lost city. Now all they need to do is finish the paint ups :D
Your opinion of course, but when I went on Colossus it rattled me so much I had a headache for the rest of the day 💀
@@Ferrous92 aw man I respect your opinion but if you haven't been on it this year I suggest you retry it imo its been running the best it has in a while :). Colossus needs new trains for sure but they must have changed the wheels or something. Also stick your head out when you ride it LMAO it helps I promise
@@Q4Coasters OK thanks! I'm going to Thorpe park soon with friends, so I might try it again!
@@Ferrous92 I hope you have a great time! :D
My first inversion coaster was infusion 😅
oh good god LMAOO
My first inverting coaster is Mandril but the only ones i done is menellium at fantasy island mandril and hyperia since not 1.4m yet but my fav inverting coaster is hyperia, does have a bit of a rattle
Uniqueness id say mandril
Smoothness is def menellium it felt like how smooth kobra is at chessington is
@@CatherineHd valid points here! You’ll get there pal. In time you will be 1.4 metres :D
My first rollercoaster with an inversion was the smiler because my dad was scared of the line getting too long so we went on oblivion first and the smiler second
@@Burpysheepgd That’s funny. I hope you enjoyed it and it didn’t scare you off of trying more coasters! I don’t think i would have been impressed if it was my first
@@Q4Coasters oblivion scared me more because I'm only scared of really big drops such as hyperias one or the pepsi max big ones one
@@Burpysheepgd fair enough! You should definitely try hyperia if you have done oblivion! :)
@@Q4Coasters Ive done hyperia before and the airtime you get is crazy
Im not from uk but id love to go to alton and thorpe and those places, my first inversion was the riddlers mindbender at six flags over georgia
Oooh nice! yes you should defo come and visit at some point Hyperia and Nemesis have some really unique and interesting elements :D
Went on my first inversion coaster yesterday and i loved it i do enjoy inversions but the smiler seems a bit out off hand
@@archjsk_YT same here king! i think 4-6 is the sweet-spot :)
@@archjsk_YT also so proud of you congratulations!
Inversions are best with quality over quantity. Nemesis and Hyperia do this very well
100% Nemesis is still my favourite coaster. I prefer less rather than more if they are better quality inversions
WHERE ARE OUR GIRLYPOP COASTERS IN THE UK 😱
@@DanDoesThemeParks YEAH WHAT THE FLIP, our closest one is nemesis reborn shes a girlboss
Crazy opinions, the death roll on iron gwazi and mosasarus roll on velocicoaster/ zero g inversions make both of those rides. You need to get out and ride more coasters.
Oh! I never said either were bad I was actually praising both of them haha they are my favourite kinds of inversions as they are built to separate and enhance sections of the ride. I was more so covering the coasters that have too many inversions, Iron Gwazi has 2 and Velocicoaster has 4 which are in the count for the best amount, Idk how far you got into the video but I did say my favourite coasters feature 4/5 inversions or less :)
@@Q4Coasters Taking an example from your video, the inversions are not bad on the smiler is just bad because its rough. The classic B&M 7 inversion coasters are great you should get out and try a good invert like montu. Good inversions are stand out moments!
@@MEMES_1231 oh I still disagree! There are quite a few corkscrews which can make the ride quite uninteresting. The sea-serpent roll and cobra rolls were the highlight when it first opened but now that second half of the cobra roll just hurts haha and yes that does affect my opinion but at the same time some of my favourite coasters here in the UK have higher inversions or can be rough so I think its the repetition in the smiler that I don't enjoy :D. I WOULD LOVE TO TRY MONTU its on my bucket list for sure thank you for your feedback!
My home park is Islands of adventure/sea world/ bush gardens tampa. If you like glass smooth inverts montu still cant be beat rode it last week and its buttery. The height restriction above the tree line really hurts a lot of rides in the UK 😂
@@MEMES_1231 omg you are so lucky those are my dream parks!! thorpe park is the only merlin park in the UK that can build above the tree line, they are really solid coasters but obviously not as grand in comparison! but I still love the ones we have here
I NEED INVERSIONS TO FUNCTION
LMAO THATS OKAY, the washing machines this way ---->
@@Q4Coasters Thanks :D
my first inversion was on banshee🤷 (ki is my home park)
Nice! How did you enjoy it?
@@Q4Coasters it was awesome and wild😅 that first dive loop at a high speed is CRAZY!
@@Lavend3r.Dreams I'd love to try it when I eventually go to america, I'm a sucker for B&M coasters!
The Smiler is my #1 Coaster
I HATE COLOSSUS SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!
I Agree That Coaster dont Need Inversions but there still Fun
yes of course also you are so cursed for this I hate the smiler and love colossus AHAHAH
Smiler is also my number 1 as long as it's not back row that can be a bit rough
@@weplayvrgames shopping trolley simulator LMAO
I was willing to believe this for a bit until you started talking about loving the prelift sections...is this rage bait? For people (like me) who prefer positive Gs over airtime, inversions are almost necessity. Without them, every non-airtime-focused coaster would just be a Giovanola hyper.
@@xarq0n No haha not rage bait at all! Prelift sections can also contain inversions and intense sections it’s not always tame. Saw the ride at thorpe park has a pretty intense indoor dark section that makes it very interesting! I love positive G force but you can gain that from lots of different elements. Inversion spam like the smiler lacks in force because of the amount it inverts. 4-5 inversions is the sweet spot for rollercoasters imo but of course you are entitled to your own opinion! :D
yes
thank you for your wise words oh great one!
My favourite coaster is insane, yet it doesn’t invert. dc rivals hypercoaster
@@GingerbreadHen oooh ill have a look right now! Thanks for telling me sounds like a cool coaster :D
4.31 😂😂😂😂
saws the best
I don't really like it. Love the theme don't get me wrong the movies slap but the actual ride gives me a SAW head haha
@@Q4Coasters yeah sometimes
@@Q4CoastersI agree that ride does torture you but isn't that sort of the point of a ride called saw
@@weplayvrgames yes but I don't want my experience to be THAT authentic LMAOOOOO
@@Q4Coasters lol
nice
Thanks man :D
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what was so important at that time stamp ahaha
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