Lenore Was Caught Cheating In The One Piece TCG - Addressing The Situation & Moving Forward

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  • @ding9916
    @ding9916 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    It feels like there's a new cheater every couple days now. The upside of that, it means people are paying attention and looking out for cheaters now

  • @roderickstevn
    @roderickstevn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    The easiest way to stop most of the cheating in my opinion is to have bandi get behind the guy running the sym. Higher him get a team behind him work out bugs and then use the sym for online tournaments.

    • @thanoscrackatfortnite6141
      @thanoscrackatfortnite6141 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That would be nice but remember, bandai is a game industry wich need's to make money. If people just play on the online client wich has EVERY CARD for free then where do they make their money? No need to buy any actual products since you can get insane prizing by playing with cards you paid nothing for.

    • @LabLab3029
      @LabLab3029 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thanoscrackatfortnite6141they could make it a thing where they need to have proof of ownership of the cards in their deck (i.e a picture with timestamp and name of the physical deck as it appears on the decklist)

    • @theunclebuddy
      @theunclebuddy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@thanoscrackatfortnite6141 they can just raise entry fees or create their own online client like mtg arena

    • @stoly1677
      @stoly1677 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@theunclebuddyraising the fees would be awful

    • @theunclebuddy
      @theunclebuddy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stoly1677 well they have to get the money from somewhere if people aren't buying product and just playing the Sim that's free and has everything.

  • @averagejoe9229
    @averagejoe9229 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The one time I got cheated in a tournament was by a nami player that drew 2 cards in their draw phase and they denied the claim. I hit them with a banish and after they took they returned the card saying they didn't know about the banish and countered out.

  • @juniorrng7950
    @juniorrng7950 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Na she should stay Banned, she actually has a huge ego, She declared her self to be the best Blue Nami player in the world (not in Oceanic), and durng that time, there was another player that made to top16 in regionals with Blue nami (whilst she didnt).
    From what i have heard, she also cheats in local games. Besides adding a card in the trash, in locals, she has hide her Don under trash, making it look like there is Zero Don active, and when people swing, she reviews and "looks" for that "missing" don.
    Even if its not intentional, many people who has played with her in locals, says she cheats in those.
    Imagine being that low to just cheat in locals.

    • @Kaybe7
      @Kaybe7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She is the most obnoxious person I have met in this scene

    • @TTMcCullen
      @TTMcCullen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ohhhhh tea, let’s see the receipts

  • @Learnjapanesefromsomeguy
    @Learnjapanesefromsomeguy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    4:35 While it is possible it is her first time cheating, statistically, it is not likely. People who get caught committing any kind of crime (or just doing something illegal in general) likely have done that same crime numerous times before having been caught.
    Anyway, this is one of the reasons I have never (and don' really feel like) playing in any kind of online tournament. I would wager that over half of top finishers have cheated in one way or another. It is sad that, as the player, you not only have to consider your own moves, but proactively monitor your opponent's actions as well.
    I am quite sure that someone cheated against me in an RL match recently. I had no evidence, as they shuffled their deck (and thus destroyed any kind of evidence) too quickly for me to make any kind of claim. It felt bad, and it was just for $30 in store credit. I couldn't imagine if the stakes were higher.
    A sim would be a great solution, but like someone mentioned, Bandai is in the business of selling physical cards. I think a solution would be for Bandai to sell actual packs to make digital decks. In that way, Bandai could monetize digital play and players could rest assured that no shenanigans take place. Maybe some players would be upset at the prospect of buying the same card twice, or whatever, but an alt art Perona, or whatever would work just as well as the 'regular' one and decks really wouldn't be that expensive.

    • @H8ter11
      @H8ter11 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Apparently she done it a few times but this is the first with evidence. So far I heard she added cards from trash to hand , hide her active don and something about a giveaway for reaching x amount of subs/follows , the winner said they never received the prize and that she ghosted him . Necro something was the name if I remember correctly.

    • @H8ter11
      @H8ter11 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But I agree the sim would solve most issues except account swapping .or like someone playing in your place unless they add face cams to the simulator And the only people against it are low key sus lol . Only negative I can see is you won't be able to show off your high rarity deck or leader .

    • @Nugg3t94
      @Nugg3t94 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She got caught hiding active don under rested don and misreprenting board state and Brisbane regionals literally last weekend. Made a twitter post about being attacked for no reason, then cheated this weekend online.

  • @TTMcCullen
    @TTMcCullen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not me waiting to see if he makes a video about the drama she’s been involved in the past few days, looks like someone has been making accounts to harass her and apparently she got the police involved

  • @totaltm826
    @totaltm826 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Saw the notification and immediately had to watch. Great opinions and a great mindset. Cheaters should always be banned but redemption is always possible. Just not in this game. Would love to see a video on how to combat cheating in webcam tournaments and what to look out for

    • @MaterialPigeon
      @MaterialPigeon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As much as I wanna say that we should give cheaters a second shot, as someone who followed the MTG pro scene for a bit, a lot of cheaters tend to cheat again after their grace period.

    • @jeffkang5794
      @jeffkang5794 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      redemption i believe is true but they can never come back tot he card game again

  • @kevinflack7036
    @kevinflack7036 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nami is a very difficult deck to play. I do not condone cheating at all. This is unfortunate because i myself have played nami online and players are always suspicious of me playing assuming I am a cheater even before I have done anything. This situation makes me upset because other players cheat and players that play fair are punished because of the stupidity of other cheaters. Bandai invoke zero tolerance ban all cheaters permanently as the issue of cheating seems to be on a rise so hopefully Bandai steps up quickly to deal with players that wish to ruin this game with their dishonesty.

  • @DrGiulian0
    @DrGiulian0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I tremendously respect you and this video

  • @zer0specter
    @zer0specter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    unfortunately, bandai tcg's are kinda susceptible to pulling in cheaters with how expensive the price cards tend to be
    the same happened in the past in the digimon tcg with the darkknigtmon deck, a lot of people started to cheat while using the deck in online tournaments (the deck was nowhere near competitive level)
    in my opinion, saying that someone should leave the game because thy cheated once is a bit harsh, yes they deserve their punishment, if they want to leave the game for good, that's their decision, but straight up saying that they don't have any place in the game at all is a bit too hostile for my taste

  • @winglesshawk6970
    @winglesshawk6970 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What if anyone who tops a webcam event is required to submit recordings of their games for review? That would help us players not have to constantly worry about watching our opponents so closely that we cant focus on the game

  • @IzzyWizzy1982
    @IzzyWizzy1982 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I play with Nami, and was so ecstatic to win with Nami at my locals today, this has kind of tinged it with disappointment

    • @tyroneponga8558
      @tyroneponga8558 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Don't associate yourself with this cheater enjoy your win brother🤙

    • @smilingsaiyan8357
      @smilingsaiyan8357 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Enjoy your win mate it’s ok you are an honest and true Nami player 🎉 congrats on the win

    • @fosterdawson7339
      @fosterdawson7339 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Congrats on the win!

    • @aotero88
      @aotero88 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nope! You earned it! Well deserved!

    • @IzzyWizzy1982
      @IzzyWizzy1982 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tyroneponga8558 cheers dude

  • @Sleeping-boi
    @Sleeping-boi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video bro as always. I got to see this situation unfold during TCup OCE and happy it was brought to light.
    Disappointed cause online tournaments are now my main way to actually play but looking at how easy it is to cheat has put me off at the moment.
    I rather kick back and play some good games opposed to having to watch the opponents board state like a hawk.
    Hope she recovers and learns from this. Anyways enough yapping keep up the great content and look forward to your next video.

  • @UgzS96
    @UgzS96 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keep grinding for the rest of us, still need that nami advice and tips

  • @smilingsaiyan8357
    @smilingsaiyan8357 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel for the Nami player community
    Such a shame that this all happened. You guys will bounce back better and stronger!
    I’m a red Luffy / RP Luffy player :)

    • @parsandstripes9445
      @parsandstripes9445 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I caught a nami cheater at the last Pasadena regionals shuffling scandal

  • @imperuniverse6921
    @imperuniverse6921 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks Mill for the hard work

  • @Proj3ctSpartan
    @Proj3ctSpartan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Tbh if you cheat, you need to get bullied a bit as a punishment . If you cant handle the fire then dont create one. I dont feel sorry for her in the slightest. It is what it is!

  • @JayUpgraded
    @JayUpgraded 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cheating with a Kirby playmat should be illegal and punishable by watching the entirety of Kirby: Right Back at Ya.

  • @idbw1274
    @idbw1274 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not sure if the harassment it true or not but I will say that my little experience with one piece players, I wouldn’t put it past them that they would harass people. One piece players are some of the most toxic people I have had the displeasure of meeting.

    • @TTMcCullen
      @TTMcCullen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have you seen the post she made, it looks like she got genuinely harassed, which in a way is sad, she was 1000% going to be called out but I don’t know why people needed to message her directly and attack her

  • @indeci5ive
    @indeci5ive 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve never understood why online tournaments aren’t ran with the sim. Wouldn’t cheating be harder on it?

    • @memebump7612
      @memebump7612 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The sim can bug, and that would ruin the whole game if it happened.

    • @WumboTopG
      @WumboTopG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The main idea behind a TCG (trading CARD game) is the cards. It’s supposed to be about collecting the cards and battling with what you have. The sim is just a place to practice.

    • @theunclebuddy
      @theunclebuddy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@WumboTopG yup. Maybe they'll develop an online client one day like mtg arena where they can still get their money and eliminates the cheats

    • @indeci5ive
      @indeci5ive 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@theunclebuddy I'm praying for an online client someday haha

  • @Soulryu11
    @Soulryu11 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot of people don't think that using a die to keep track of your opponents hand is against the rules due to the "No notetaking" clause. But the rules do allow you to use supplementary items to keep track of public knowledge, which hand size is. I always recommend players to use a D20 to keep track of the opponents hand size. Ask how many cards in hand after they draw for turn, when they end their turn, when they take life, before each of your swings, and if they happen to draw any cards. Yes, it may annoy your opponent at some point, but if your D20 doesn't match what your opponent says, QUESTION IT. Maybe you failed to increase or decrease the die to one of your opponents actions, but that is why you can go back and track to make sure that nothing funny happened.

  • @crystalblister1
    @crystalblister1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi @MoreThatMillGuy regarding the other cheating allegation from the week prior have a screenshot of her admitting to it. She cheated against my friend and right before the regionals yesterday she was trying to apologise to him. So yes she was already not liked in the Australia scene because that cheating issue was already confirmed.

  • @OneCardPiece
    @OneCardPiece 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The thing is that webcam tournaments arent fullproof yes but as someone who lives in croatia and can only go to locals tournaments like these are basiclly the only big tournaments i can go. But cheating definetlly needs to stop

  • @ding9916
    @ding9916 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a Nami player there is no reason to ever re-arrange the trash pile, non-Nami players should see that as a red flag.
    Edit: Some of the replies make some pretty solid cases for re-arranging the trash pile as a Nami player.

    • @ndnkashyap
      @ndnkashyap 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sometimes I put all the trigger cards I have on top of the trash so I can guesstimate what’s in my life and deck still. Maybe other people don’t but I always make it very clear to my opponent and keep my hand super far away.

    • @ding9916
      @ding9916 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ndnkashyap That's fair, I personally don't mind flipping through the whole pile to check but I get that's more convenient. As you said as long you explain to your opponent what you are doing then it's totally fine.

    • @michaelwhite1552
      @michaelwhite1552 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'd disagree. Nami is the one deck where it's very helpful to rearrange the trash. If you stack all of the same cards together and know your decklist like the back of your hand, then when you're down to 10ish cards in deck, you can know exactly what they are / what your life cards are. Helps you plan out the final turn or two.

    • @ding9916
      @ding9916 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelwhite1552 Fair point, but I like to leave the cards in my pile as they were pitched.

    • @fosterdawson7339
      @fosterdawson7339 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ndnkashyapthis is what i do too, helps me see what triggers i may still have. I am upfront with my opponents about it to be safe as well

  • @kenkham6145
    @kenkham6145 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nope, no one forgets, I remember at regionals, everyone booo deep patel.

  • @theCarlosJAM
    @theCarlosJAM 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video, didn't expect less from you. Please don't bully people online, she already is suffering for the consequences of her action. She will never play One Piece again, and I think that's fair. Do not harass her anymore and just let's move on.

  • @TheAnswer189
    @TheAnswer189 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who has no idea re. This TCG, just seen the Twitter drama... Why is Nami viewed negatively in the community?

  • @Gelzzky
    @Gelzzky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Calling for webcam tourneys to stop because of the cheaters doesn't make any sense tho. If not for the webcam tourneys being recorded these cheaters wouldn't get caught. There are probably more cheaters in offline tourneys, they are just not being recorded so they are getting away with it. These particular cheater has been accused of cheating before if i am right but only were proven to be a cheater because it has been recorded.

  • @ParkourChildhood
    @ParkourChildhood 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i think an apology and statement would of saved her, she adopted a victim mentality

    • @HakiLessons
      @HakiLessons 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not at that level of blatant cheating I don’t think, she certainly didn’t do it by accident and has pushed other people who were playing fairly out of the bubble for top prizing

    • @ParkourChildhood
      @ParkourChildhood 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HakiLessons bro logan paul scammed mils from his alt coin and is still on top

  • @theXDeity
    @theXDeity 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    u and Cross chatting while playin on Sim would be legend

  • @walkswithyou
    @walkswithyou 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've never seen the appeal of webcam matches for this very reason. We're playing in matches trying to perform to the best of our ability AND on top of that we have to watch for cheating from our opponent. Judges might miss the cheat. It's too much. It's time for Batsu Games to rise. Bandai your move.

  • @nickfanzo
    @nickfanzo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s with all the cheating in this game. What is this yugioh?

  • @mechman133
    @mechman133 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keeping tabs on opponents' hands, trash, deck on paper would be a solution just like mtg with life

  • @fdxpunk
    @fdxpunk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know the poor guy she dating. He just a simple guy who she strong armed into a relationship with her.
    He just a nerdy guy who finally had a girl show interest in him.

    • @TTMcCullen
      @TTMcCullen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fact?

  • @mr.prince2806
    @mr.prince2806 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brooo so humble your a really good blue player man and a very good nami

  • @Soulryu11
    @Soulryu11 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Playing devil's advocate, that Mochi account was a burner account. It was a brand new account that was then deleted when it had accusations of being a burner account. It reads like one of those "This is so and so's mom, and I just want to tell you that so and so is super sad". Regardless of the validity though, there shouldn't be any hate or bullying done to the cheater. I do wish that she had made a statement and apologized to the community instead of trying to turn herself into the victim.

  • @matatumbac
    @matatumbac 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have to ask card in hand every 5 sec. And show it to you

  • @0xLust
    @0xLust 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m glad you’re here for us Nami players! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @Rootzish
    @Rootzish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Disappointed in the situation.
    Excited that you're in control of the Nami discord.
    Hoping for a good future for Nami, ThatMillGuy, Lenore, and the OPTCG community

  • @rvtcg24
    @rvtcg24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sad how she turned being the “best nami” player into her entire identity and had a breakdown after getting caught cheating

  • @Jay-rd6fe
    @Jay-rd6fe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    damn immagine cheating in a super simple game with a simple deck thats just sad

  • @yungebola5524
    @yungebola5524 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    brother, look at how photoshopped her pic in your thumbnail was. If she's gonna try to lie that much through editing her pics like that, it's not a far stretch to think she'd lie over some children's card games lol. Was sus on her from the start.

  • @koalakakes
    @koalakakes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that should be a lifetime ban

  • @beams098
    @beams098 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank god for 2x speed

  • @sir_quirkus7206
    @sir_quirkus7206 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    any girl who has "girl boss" on their social is an immediate red flag lol

  • @AllAnimeKevin
    @AllAnimeKevin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who else is here after another Nami cheater got caught?

  • @legit_black182
    @legit_black182 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A fellow RDCworld1 enjoyer. My guy

  • @demonswordsman8320
    @demonswordsman8320 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    please do a video with cross yes😄

  • @theunclebuddy
    @theunclebuddy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fines for cheaters lol. Like when sports fine their players haha. 1st offense 100 second 500 3rd banned for life. Lol announce some sort of consequence to reduce the amount of cheating. It wint stop it but will reduce it

  • @ssvaiyn3187
    @ssvaiyn3187 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She deleted her Twitter so that just shows she cheated and got caught doing so.

  • @AndrewWong-q8s
    @AndrewWong-q8s 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Once a cheater, always a cheater

  • @l3m0ntea
    @l3m0ntea 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. I do not think cheating should be encouraged at all. Your exact words are stating that cheating should be allowed?? Especially when these winning prizes can be worth money, cheating should be made aware. Yes, bullying should not happen but saying people are allow to cheat is just ridiculous.

    • @SixTwoKicks626
      @SixTwoKicks626 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where in the video does he say cheating SHOULD be allowed?? His stance on cheating was very clear..

    • @acebunnytcg
      @acebunnytcg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he is saying you’re allowed to cheat as in you’re free to do so but you’re not free from the consequences. so if you decide you CAN do it but don’t expect to just have no repercussions

  • @XSON982
    @XSON982 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    she cheated plain and simple

  • @DatPurpleCow
    @DatPurpleCow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yooo FTB

  • @Proj3ctSpartan
    @Proj3ctSpartan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Without a doubt guilty and shes been cheating for a while