One Piece TCG: My Thoughts on the Current Hot Topic in the Community, "Should RP Law be Banned?"

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    00:00 Start/Intro
    02:20 Results from the East
    08:25 Overall Results
    15:07 Issues I have with Game Balance
    18:21 Promo Cards
    19:50 Kid & Killer
    21:33 Black Maria
    27:21 Summarizing and Potential Fixes
    30:10 Questions, What Do You Guys Think?
    33:25 Magellan VS ST-14 Luffy
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  • @Vvulfrik
    @Vvulfrik  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

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  • @xTYYSHx
    @xTYYSHx 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    We are not worried about Law in 07, we are worried about him in 08.

    • @ericv5435
      @ericv5435 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Just make black maria specific to animal kingdom leaders

  • @monalumamonanana
    @monalumamonanana 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    I think leader locking more card effects would be ideal.
    But when stuff like this happens, I wish they would be more open to either erratas or restrictions (or both). I don't think leaders should be banned. But why not errata? Like you said, Saka could be one effect or the other and not both. Law could be -4 don instead or maybe removing a 1000 power instead of 3000 to force more resources. If not, you could look to restrict the most impactful cards. You made a great point that Gordon and Max effectively make it so you have 8 copies of a card instead of the intended 4, and a ban on promos could be great. With only 4 Maxs and losing the 4c -2k Law promo, maybe Law feels average now? With Saka, maybe a Hound Blaze and Moria restriction would bring him in line as is (Moria should be type locked IMO).
    Anyway, great vid and great insight!

  • @azimuth9819
    @azimuth9819 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Even when im playing RP Law "counters" i hardly ever feel like im in advantage state vs this leader.

    • @2rare2die26
      @2rare2die26 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There is no advantage state against RP Law. Law is ALWAYS the one in control.
      You have to either flood the board faster than him so you can maintain creature pressure through his leader ability - or you have to swing hard and swing big, but Law is pretttttyyyy good at racing when it needs to.
      You can't play outright agro against it because leader ability + Sachi Penguin will remove your choppers, but you can't play soft against it because it will run you over.
      Tough no matter what deck you're running.

    • @b-rad578
      @b-rad578 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Play green purple doflamingo. I'm actually focusing on that and in my local events it's about 75% win rate. Not just against law

    • @azimuth9819
      @azimuth9819 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @b-rad578 I've been messing with GP Doffy, I misworded my OP, He's one of the "counters" but im always still learning, sooo many Laws at my locals

    • @2rare2die26
      @2rare2die26 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @b-rad578 the only problem with G/P daffy is that, in OP08 when black Maria drops, both RP law and Purple Kaido get significantly better. And P Kaido had an insanely good MU into GP doffy, at least in my testing on Sim.
      But at least during this OP07 meta, you're right

  • @whipli
    @whipli 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Locking more good cards to its archetype should be mandatory.
    The same thing happens with Gecko Moria (the character), it should be closed to Thriller Bark. Black decks will always carry 4 copies of him and that's not good for the health of the game.

  • @Rumham7291
    @Rumham7291 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I dont think leaders should be able to bottom deck, thats crazy to me. Its rare that leaders can even KO and those leaders arent even good cuz the KO effect isnt that strong or it costs too much. Also why arent there cards that protect your characters from bottom decking? there needs to be a way to counter this type of play, like you would counter KO abilities.

  • @curiouschao1
    @curiouschao1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I think your approach was extremely well done, I just feel like the fact you had to give 3 cards that should be tuned or released differently in order to tiptoe around this Leader, just seem healthier to let it go in the long term.
    As long as RP law exists, they can no longer make broadly strong cards in the colors. I’d like to see it re-released where you HAVE to actually tuck something in order to play out a card from hand

    • @kamikaze.33
      @kamikaze.33 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This 💯

  • @charlottekatakuri4355
    @charlottekatakuri4355 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    New to the OPTCG and your vids help me out alot. Keep it up!

  • @virenstein1152
    @virenstein1152 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I feel black maria may be more the issue. It provides them so much advantage. Maybe ban her or like someone else said they should leader lock more cards.

  • @christophermalerba6050
    @christophermalerba6050 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love your content man!

  • @patrickdagraca4457
    @patrickdagraca4457 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    100% great video 🎉🎉

  • @Alnard
    @Alnard 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Cards are too expensive to be banning.

  • @TheMiniTeeks
    @TheMiniTeeks 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I wonder if its worth making a Reiju deck that focuses on don minus as well so that your getting card draw each turn? or if thats the focus is magellan just a better leader?

  • @fantomdarc
    @fantomdarc 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    nailed it, mech unique promos shouldnt be legal. Considering the 7 blue luffy and where the wind blows are banned cause you cant get them. Also, you could have fixed kid and killer by making them 5 cost so the effect sticks to rg law and luffy, and is much harder for him to play.
    Make him pay with Fist or Gamma knife instead of gordon and raise, the 2 cost made him way worse, see pre raise max and kid killer and reiju. Having to keep the 3 drop law on board, and stay under don to keep card adv was when this leader took any semblence of skill.
    Like saka-lucci, the problem wasnt the leader, it was the cards they got unfettered access too.

    • @vehicledestroyer
      @vehicledestroyer 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      neither of the cards you named are on the banlist. There is no card banned for scarcity.

  • @kylescup878
    @kylescup878 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It irks me how bandai isnt willing to try and (semi)limit cards more often. Its a way to test the waters and see if it can help balance the game by hitting problem cards after releasing new sets. Except black maria that card needs a quickban.
    Also leader locking strong cards is such a great idea. I would love to see some more off meta decks get those privileges.

  • @CasualTakeswithArchie
    @CasualTakeswithArchie 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think there needs to be retrictions in how many of certain cards you can have in the deck. Like maybe only 2 kid & killers in the deck or only 1 or 2 marias in the deck. stuff like that and of course ban promos

  • @CatBeanxx
    @CatBeanxx 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The problem with law is if they leave him they can never print good 4 cost red or purple cards again cause it just becomes support for him which is really bad... theyd have to leaderlock so many future cards to stop law using them which means other red and purple decks cant recieve generic support

    • @monkeydrussty8921
      @monkeydrussty8921 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Law only has so much space in his deck its not like hes gonna get better every set if they release 4 cost its rather that he has so many options to build his deck against everything just ban the actual problem in his deck (raisemax/Gordon) those 2 cards are only playable in this deck so theres no reason imo to ban those 2

    • @MegaA245
      @MegaA245 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is the same argument agaisnt Nami, so now we should also ban Nami? Same with Rob Lucci, and we can still continue with that. Sorry bro, but One Piece needs to focus more in archetypes or the game bans a leader every year

    • @CatBeanxx
      @CatBeanxx 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MegaA245 what? Nami does not benefit from 95% of generic blue support she is a very specific leader and lucci is reliant on alot of the cipher pol support to help him be played over the main black archetype of navy i understand your point i guess but these are not good leader examples

    • @MegaA245
      @MegaA245 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CatBeanxx the only good generic cards in blue arent even related to what blue purpose is. That’s because Nami. If you even see the Impel Down cards, the effects of draw are pretty limitated to the archetype or arent that good, and even there, the deck that play more those cards are Nami decks. Un OP07, they would have so much Good Blue cards, that there would be 2 New versions of Nami. The Shirohige that are getting more eyes in it, doesnt play Edward Newgate and Izo.
      The problem of the argument to ban Law, is that it can be the same agasint any good leader. The solution is not ban leaders again and again

  • @coreyjohnson5517
    @coreyjohnson5517 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video as always. What’s your opinion on if they errata’d leader effect by restricting playing a 4c or lower to only Heart Pirates type cards?
    Or, what if they restricted leader effect and you can only play a card off leader effect if you first bottom deck/KO an opponents card? If you can’t bottom deck/Ko, the second part of the ability is not available.

    • @Vvulfrik
      @Vvulfrik  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So if I was trying to fix he problem and could only mess with the Leader a few things come to my mind (not all of them combined):
      -Make it only able to cheat out a 3c or less Character
      -Make it only able to hit a 2000 Power Character
      -Make it only able to cheat out a 4c Purple Character (since that can offset the Don minus effect)
      -Make it where they can only play out a Character if they have 2 or Less Characters on the Board
      -Make it where they can only use the Effect if your opponent has the same amount of Characters or more than you
      I like your idea as well, would have been interesting so that your opponent can't play into your board if it's gone. The crappy part is I really like the Leader's Effect as it is currently, but the cards it has access to I think push it over the top, like 8 Gordons, Kid&Killer, and now Black Maria. It's a tough question to answer, that's for sure.

    • @coreyjohnson5517
      @coreyjohnson5517 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Vvulfrik those are great takes also. I really like the leader and enjoy the strategy behind it. It was always tough making it work with his initial release in ST-10 because there was a cost with a small reward, plus card support was low.
      But that was the fun part, managing Don and discerning what the best play was. Finding new combos.
      I’ve jumped to BY Luffy and I’m starting to see just how strong bottom decking is lol.

  • @cds7012
    @cds7012 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's annoying how few new cards (disregarding Egghead) Bandai makes leader-locked, while some obviously would make total sense. OP08 Black Maria for Animal Kingdom leaders, OP06 Gecko Moria for Thriller Bark leaders, Raise Max or Gordon for film-type leaders, etc.

  • @DonnieDarkoRemains
    @DonnieDarkoRemains 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Errata Black Maria to only be able to work with Animal Kingdom leader.

    • @ericv5435
      @ericv5435 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed. It's too good for purple decks. Especially law.

  • @Monkey_D._Elliott
    @Monkey_D._Elliott 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thanks for the video VV.
    I'm pro-bans as a tool to help curate the correct power level and diversity of format you want in your game. Law, like Saka, does a really good job of gatekeeping a lot of tier 2 decks. And while I think Law was fine up to 08, these early results really push me over into ban territory. Sure, they could ban Black Maria and Pudding or whatever, but then what? A new Red or Purple card pushes law back up. Do they ban that?
    At a certain point, leaders with strong enough abilities are always just waiting to get a few pieces of support to get over. In Laws case, the interplay against it doesn't have the support to viably hold a space in the meta. I like Law, but it's overtuned and provides too much generic value.
    My take: Do the sake thing and ban it and print a new one. Make it require a bottom deck, make it cost 4, adjust the targets it can get. Something. As law exists now, banning around it won't solve the problem.
    Speaking directly to your promo suggestion, I don't think that meaningful solves anything and adds a whole layer of confusion as to what is/isn't legal. Especially since there's only a few that are played. If anything, just ban Gordon.
    More to my greater point, you suggest multiple changes to make RP Law fine, and that's why it's not. Why adjust multiple points of the game when 1 is the biggest issue?
    Anyways, cheers VV. Thanks for rocking brother.

  • @im_a_mess
    @im_a_mess 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think just a minor errata should be implemented like the bottom decking should be mandatory before playing a 4 or less makes the ability require the right pieces to work instead of a risk free summon especially when the game is on the line

  • @Gmuni0
    @Gmuni0 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I disagree with you on bottom decking. The game needs a form of "exile" (MTG term) but i do understand the sentiment. It could be more expensive.

  • @MrJubesJubes
    @MrJubesJubes 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Like many have said, and are saying in the comments below they just need to type lock cards man. If its film don't let non film leaders play it. If it's Thriller Bark then lock it to thriller bark pirates etc. Just try it at least. If it doesn't work then just undo it like they did the whitebeard ban, but I feel like that would make things more interesting. If Saka couldn't play CP, Dressarosa, or thriller bark stuff I'm sure it would be decent still but it would not be the menace it was.

  • @raphaelgarrett2615
    @raphaelgarrett2615 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You’re 100% right about Gordon and raise max. Every other deck only gets 4 of a card and Law literally gets 8 of the same card because the name is different

    • @vehicledestroyer
      @vehicledestroyer 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      no law list is playing 8, in op08 5 is the number most ppl are on. Wrong logic to try and ban cards

    • @raphaelgarrett2615
      @raphaelgarrett2615 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vehicledestroyer “wrong” is your personal opinion my guy. We’re dealing with 07, not 08. Can you think of any other cards that are Meta and duplicates?

    • @vehicledestroyer
      @vehicledestroyer 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@raphaelgarrett2615 there is no issue with law in 07 lol it's literally a triangle format where blue doffy and bonney lurk right below the best 3 decks. It's one of the most diverse formats in the games history 🤣

  • @elevenpiece
    @elevenpiece 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If there's an effect that counter "bottom deck" effetcs that will be better. Like you can't bottom deck this character then it will be fine. Thats my opinion only

  • @walkswithyou
    @walkswithyou 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Black Maria will be an absolute menace when she's released.

  • @TheFifthString
    @TheFifthString 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Give me more decks weak to Yamato!
    On topic, RP Law is fine in 07, but 08 makes me worry for sure. Have to see how the next month or so turns out and to from there. He has issues and makes me worry about card design cause banfai clearly forgets leader locking busted cards is a thing, in surprised 10 mom was leader locked lol

  • @trawian8683
    @trawian8683 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes

  • @johnny_tcg
    @johnny_tcg 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree with a lot of your points! Especially about leader locking abilities

  • @thecoolestjedi
    @thecoolestjedi 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think the leaders ability is poorly designed; it wouldn’t be busted if it was destroy; making him bottom is 100% the issue imo. I think cards should be restricted; Black Maria shouldn’t be in the meta, Moria should be at 1-2 etc; that’s how I’d solve stuff

  • @ericv5435
    @ericv5435 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They should make characters with effects that trigger when they leave the field, not just KO.

  • @HandsomeJack128
    @HandsomeJack128 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the Sanji is going to be a problem soon too. 3c 6k blocker that also is a 2k is a ridiculous card

  • @JayJayJay83
    @JayJayJay83 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Without bottom dekcing, how would you work around black's graveyard plays?

    • @bigarcana5553
      @bigarcana5553 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mindfulness?
      Taking care to not remove something that they can recur.

    • @michaelsindaha2507
      @michaelsindaha2507 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      More cards like 6 cost brook but in other colors lol. Bandai loves giving the counter to a color to the same color 😭

  • @SEanBwal
    @SEanBwal 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bandai did act quickly to overwhelming winning numbers from a deck in Dragonball Fusion world. Look up what topku has done in Fusion world and Laws number are looking similar.

    • @ericv5435
      @ericv5435 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's more topku numbers than law

  • @SEanBwal
    @SEanBwal 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They couldn't figure out have the choose one be activate main while the other was while attacking

  • @Leon.2k
    @Leon.2k 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Banning Leaders is not the way, Errata with testing behind it is the way to go. Having Gordon and Raise Max together also is completely unbalanced, 8 of the same type of card shouldn’t be a thing. Type locking is needed for decks like Law imo. The thing is when a leader becomes the most played it gets boring to watch, especially when it’s a mirror match. From a spectators perspective watching RP Law vs RP Law constantly wouldn’t be fun

  • @joanellidanilo
    @joanellidanilo 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imho the bottom deck effect should be exclusive for blue cards, so Law is kinda broken. It should be at MAXIMUM a KO;
    Promo cards should be AA of already existing ones, it's not healthy for the game the way it is now;
    Kid & Killer could work better if the effect is "...2 or more life...";
    Black Maria shouldn't exist;
    Sometimes I think (especially with more collections/cards being available) that the Type should be more important at the game, like you could have 4 copies of a card in your deck only if it has the same types as your leader. Otherwise should have a limit of 2/3.

  • @teddybear774
    @teddybear774 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So like what is law was a “when attacking” effect instead of an activate main effect
    Edit: and make it KO instead of bottom deck

  • @Motel_
    @Motel_ 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like they should just leader lock some of the core cards that make it a problem for the meta, like let’s be real: Reiju, Maria, pudding, killer (maybe), even Moria as it pains me to say as someone who plays a lot of black, should most likely be leader lock cards. And I like the idea of banning promo cards, it makes sense in tourneys. But overall, Law in o8, just get too much value from being able to cheat out strong combo cards, and they get so much value that’s it’s hard to keep up. And going vs a law that opens perfect, yikes.

  • @SlightlyStoned_
    @SlightlyStoned_ 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tbh I think the reduction aspect into bottom decking is whats so strong, mono blue leaders cant reduce so there bottom decking at least has some limit to it, red roc being the exception but I dont think law should be banned at the same time

    • @naytny5819
      @naytny5819 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bandai should stop just outright banning cards, semi limit to limit to 1 is good enough since all you have to is remove it off the board and they can't spam it again next tuen.

  • @MELOVISIONHD
    @MELOVISIONHD 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ban law

  • @patrickdagraca4457
    @patrickdagraca4457 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There are way to beat all decks even R/P law....😊

  • @Okay_Akei
    @Okay_Akei 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah, I hate the promo cards being new functional cards instead of just reprints with new art.
    And I also dont like banning cards, I wish there was more erratas and leader-locked effects.

  • @Phelan.Holmes13
    @Phelan.Holmes13 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You can't ban promos! I won't be able to play the new Sakazuki leader! 😂. In seriousness though, its never been as advantageous to run promos in a deck as it is in law. For the most part, they are tech only.
    Black maria... spot on leader locking to animal kingdom and a simple errata to solve.
    Yet another well thought out video... you need to be hired by that card development company.
    I cant wait till blue gets some love sigh

  • @groovitronic
    @groovitronic 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Law being able to bottom deck is crazy. I think that should stay in blue's territory. If they wanted to still be on flavor with Law's devil fruit ability, it should be that he can shambles an ally character back to hand to cheat out a 4 cost or less. It could play a lot like RG Law in that way.

  • @dpontes9516
    @dpontes9516 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The real problem is Black Maria
    RP Law in op07 is strong, but not broken
    In OP08 Black Maria makes the deck ridiculous
    You can use the ability for free
    Just limit to Animal Kingdom Pirates and it’s ok
    But I agree with the Promo point, promos should not be legal
    It’s not fair

  • @atmosph3r377
    @atmosph3r377 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Generally I am on your side, however, I think Law has hit a point (especially in op08) where he is so strong that Bandai has to balance cards around him, and that in itself is unhealthy for the game. Does he win every matchup? no. Does he completely dominate by top decking while not having a searcher or consistency? yes. Bandai won't errata him and will probably have a choice of crippling multiple decks by banning certain cards or just get rid of the leader itself

  • @Xodreev
    @Xodreev 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If this is what we're going to do every time a new king rises, this TCG probably should adopt some form of Living Legend. 🤷‍♂️

  • @Alynis_
    @Alynis_ 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Without bottom decking how do we deal with decks that play from trash? If you can't bottom deck against black they just run you over.

  • @Hellsfury24
    @Hellsfury24 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    quick glance through of the character break down for the tournament results is
    6 R/P law
    3 Y/B luffy
    3 lucci
    1 boa
    1 doflamingo
    1 bonny
    1 perona

    • @Hellsfury24
      @Hellsfury24 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      2nd event is
      11 R/P law
      2 B/Y luffy
      2 lucci
      1 boa

  • @LopaRB
    @LopaRB 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a RP Law player all the way from OP04 I think that Black Maria is the main problem! Ban it, please. Everything else? Perfect balanced and good leader, as many other leaders have weakness and strengths! But Black Maria makes the deck so easy and dumb to play... RP Law is fun because is one of the hardest decks to play (the only deck you can be mana screwed!).
    So, for me, ban Black Maria, that would make the deck hard but rewarding and a fair deck!

  • @Mightbelb
    @Mightbelb 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’ve played law enough now to say I don’t think banning Gordon/Max will have the impact ppl think it will. I’m honestly open to it since it just frees up more slots for something else and I don’t even run the max 8. Now limiting Black Maria to 1 or banning it from Law would be the best fix imo(maybe pudding too). Taking away the thought process behind managing law’s ability is just way to broken but she’s useless in the mirror match so there’s a chance she self regulates over the next few weeks of op08

    • @mariosplaysszz6261
      @mariosplaysszz6261 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why would you hit a new op08 card which helps purple with ramping. Purple is arguably the worst color in the game. Just address the problematic leader.
      Or just say that Black Maria can’t be used in law decks (someone said they did this with digimon ). Just do that and it’s gg

    • @Mightbelb
      @Mightbelb 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I said to ban or limit it in Law not all together, Maria removes the thought process behind using Law’s ability or setting up for its use and I’ll have to disagree on purple being weakest. It’s not as broken as yellow and black but definitely better than blue and green in their current overall states besides a few decks performing well in those colors.

  • @XeroValeMike
    @XeroValeMike 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Yes! Say it louder for the ones in the back! Bans are not the answer.

    • @kevinflack7036
      @kevinflack7036 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Say what you want but the truth is rp law has been out for some time and pudding/black maria both release in a new set with OP08. This means since Bandai wants money they will not touch cards within a new set. The worst case scenario I see without banning the leader would be to ban gordon and raise max and limit black maria. This is unlikely since black maria is a new set card.

    • @XeroValeMike
      @XeroValeMike 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kevinflack7036 I think the better option would be to make it so Gordon and raise Max can’t be in the same deck. There are problems for sure. But banning is not the fix.

  • @antasaurus97977
    @antasaurus97977 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you have a twitter Vv?

    • @Vvulfrik
      @Vvulfrik  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I do, twitter.com/TheVvTheory but I'm not on it much

  • @daviddale8962
    @daviddale8962 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Players should be given a choice between Gordon and Raise Max. IF you have Gordon use it and keep Raise Max out and if you don't have Gordon use Raise Max as a good replacement

  • @ryanmorris2646
    @ryanmorris2646 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i don't think law himself should be banned. im very much against banning leaders unless they happen to warp card design in an unfortunate way. there are a few ways to address Law, and that is to limit his resources. aggro decks should struggle to keep up after a certain point, but he has a ton of card draw with reiju, so banning reiju may be in order. the other option is to ban the card that he uses to keep his don high. but that card is too new to consider.

  • @dominiclusetti546
    @dominiclusetti546 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    black maria broke the balance on the deck

  • @SupThePianist
    @SupThePianist 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sakasuki is losing to RP Law in OP06 but at that time Law isn’t as strong as OP08. I do agree that banning Sakasuki is not entirely correct. But now Law is just too strong, mostly I will win only against if they draw bad, I draw good, because their 2nd turn is just too strong, how do you deal with black maria+Sanji or Pudding+Penguin, then more and more to come, is there is even an answer to this 2nd turn play with 4,5 dons.

  • @BlackTGambit
    @BlackTGambit 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    G/P Doffy does work against Law but it’s still very annoying and not fun to go up against

  • @Nolaboy44
    @Nolaboy44 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wouldn’t say banning leaders is the best move, personally I believe that some cards should be limited or in some cases leader locked that way you can still use said leader but they won’t be as powerful going forward that’s just my take🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @kamikaze.33
    @kamikaze.33 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was VERY against banning Sakazuki, but Law feels MUCH worse IMHO and I honestly do not believe that card should stay in the game as is... I'm sorry. I've NEVER before been for any bans, but this time genuinely feels very different to me...

    • @kamikaze.33
      @kamikaze.33 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also, I DO NOT like the idea of banning a handful of other cards that only feel broken because of Law. If several cards (i.e. Black Maria, Pudding, Gordon, Raise Max, etc) all share a single common denominator, than it makes the MOST sense to ban the single thread that binds them rather then messing up however many other decks that NEED cards like Black Maria to function at a viable level...

  • @therealrabbithole9088
    @therealrabbithole9088 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As for gordon and raise max, well there are many functional copies out there. Aka all vanillas. Youre gona have many functional copies down the pipe as more sets are released. Gordon isnt the issue. Its maria

  • @Megawhatsreallygood
    @Megawhatsreallygood 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would it be the worse if R/P Law was choose one? Either bottom deck a 3k or less OR play a 4 drop. That way you’re not playing 8 Don worth of bodies starting turn 2

    • @Vvulfrik
      @Vvulfrik  12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That doesn't seem like a bad idea at all to me.

    • @llshadowghostll
      @llshadowghostll 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Picking one is nice too, however, the biggest issue right now is in the official ruling it say he can choose not to bottom deck and still be able to play a 4 cost for free simply by -3 don.
      If they change this to it being the requirements he need to meet or he cannot play a free 4 cost it would make it so much better. Since law don’t got any searchers, he need to draw into the cards. So this will make him less consistent. Since he can’t just -don and play reiju and get 2 free draw to search for his Gordon or max.

    • @Megawhatsreallygood
      @Megawhatsreallygood 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@llshadowghostll I’m not sure I like making it a requirement, might make the deck just dead in the water if you starve them out and start dropping 7-9k’s they’re gonna need two Gordon/ raise max per card they wanna get rid of. The only form of removal they play is through leader ability.

  • @ericv5435
    @ericv5435 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dont ban the leader, just ban some support like shachi and penguin or gordon. The deck isn't as consistent as sakazuki. It bricks pretty hard and runs out of resources.

  • @mexican1250
    @mexican1250 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ama no murakumo sword should be banned over hound blaze if you’re going to hit one of them, bottoming 2 cards is insane into decks like law/moria that spam board.

  • @kobiiscoolerthanyou7877
    @kobiiscoolerthanyou7877 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vv i think youre thinking too much about the top tier of the game, sure maybe hes not stomping like white beard but for most of us in locals having most players run it forces casual players to either spend 200 on on of the other top 5 decks or just lose, one of my favourite things about the game is how lower tier leaders can do well causally, and i think law stomps B> decks alot more easily then the other s teir decks which is why the community feels so negatively to it

  • @ericv5435
    @ericv5435 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Disagree with the kid and killer opinion. Red needs it. I don't agree on banning all promos either but maybe just ban gordon or make it in film decks only.

  • @BigCapMan
    @BigCapMan 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly there are a lot of ways for them to fix law, but there should not be any doubt that he will continue to power creep if nothing is done. I don't think it's healthy.

  • @vehicledestroyer
    @vehicledestroyer 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the only problem card is black maria. Laws results were not this good before it was released. was it a good deck? absolutely, there will always be good decks. Banning them because you dont like them because they're good is not the right approach.

  • @therealrabbithole9088
    @therealrabbithole9088 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sakazuki was not really banned. It was errata’ed. Black blue saka still exists , its ability was significantly tuned down. People keep saying its banned. Its not, still there.. but different

    • @starbound100
      @starbound100 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I know this is semantics, but actually those two are not the same sakazuki. As in, the art is sakazuki at different point in time. The promo leader Is Admiral sakazuki with his marineford outfit, the banned leader is Fleet Admiral sakazuki with the white outfit and the cigar.

  • @GabeDoesCare
    @GabeDoesCare 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Im down with the promo card ban lol

  • @njtpro
    @njtpro 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    your on point 👉 , i concur 👌

  • @reddeadranglers8301
    @reddeadranglers8301 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    But removing Gordon would not stop law

  • @wesleypollek4637
    @wesleypollek4637 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    20:20 Kid mentioned!! I love this leader and agree with the sentiment that errata of leader locking the out of control synergies like Black Maria will help level out the meta without banning another leader.

    • @therealrabbithole9088
      @therealrabbithole9088 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which leader was banned? Because blue black sakazuki is still available. Hes just different…

    • @wesleypollek4637
      @wesleypollek4637 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@therealrabbithole9088 it’s going to be banned in a few weeks in June alongside reject once op07 drops - edit that the new sakazuki is nothing like the current one getting banned

    • @therealrabbithole9088
      @therealrabbithole9088 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wesleypollek4637its the same sakazuki with a huge nerf ability. Why is it the same? Because its the SAME two colors. With access to hound blaze, blue borsalino and more. The ONLY ability it doesnt have is the cycle ability. (That one got removed) . Its not another leader. Another leader would mean DIFFERENT color. I doubt youve tried playing the other version of saka. Its not that weak

    • @wesleypollek4637
      @wesleypollek4637 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@therealrabbithole9088 it’s not the same at all lol that’s like saying sanji and zoro are the same as sanji. Being that nerfed it’s worse off than mono black sakazuki

  • @j0hn96
    @j0hn96 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    black maria needs to be banned and reprinted to leader lock to animal kingdom pirates only

  • @corazondlaw5160
    @corazondlaw5160 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Play gp Doflamingo against rp law with birdcage and you will win instantly 😂

  • @JayJayJay83
    @JayJayJay83 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    W/o Kid n Killer, Law currently has no boss card tho. Agree with the Black Maria leader locking tho.

    • @AnimeALX
      @AnimeALX 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In OP08 there are builds that run Rayleigh and allows him to board clear with both Rayleigh's and Law leader's ability

  • @birria4
    @birria4 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    just ban black maria is that simple!!!!
    please bandai do it

  • @MrLendran
    @MrLendran 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sakazuki, law and luffy yb dominating would NOT be fun... It's better when you have at least 5 decks competing for t1 and another 5 rogue decks around like doffy, boa, nami etc
    Law was really op but managable in op7... In op8 with Black maria, pudding etc is too much and the problem is that in future they will keep printing cards that will just be better in Law.
    If Sakazuki was not banned he would fight Law exactly like Lucci does, Lucci already fights Law, you don't need Sakazuki, Sakazuki was insanely bad designed and extremely overpowered in probably the best combination of colors in the entire game.

  • @jpag92
    @jpag92 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rather than the leader, black Maria feels more problematic for OP08, but as a Law player (still a begginer though) I feel that other meta relevant decks like Enel, Moria or BY Luffy are really solid counterplays, plus another means that another leader is going to take Law's place, there's always going to be a deck on top and makes no sense to ban every leader that starts to be dominant, it would be better for certain cards to be locked to certain leader or leaders

  • @Spookyghost7
    @Spookyghost7 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It’s been 4 tournaments now and Law mirror match was the final of all 4. Hundreds of participants each. You don’t ban, you leader limit Maria and maybe Moria I think. Most extreme is alter law to what characters it can play for free or only play if it bottom decks something.

    • @MrLendran
      @MrLendran 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I wish they would limit Black maria to Kaido tbh...

  • @wetpotato205
    @wetpotato205 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I don’t think law should be banned I think some of the cards he was given should either be leader locked or banned/changed

    • @AnimeALX
      @AnimeALX 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      But that means every set, they have to keep R/P Law in mind. That is already grounds for a ban because that will just limit Bandai's creativity with trying to power up other decks.

    • @wetpotato205
      @wetpotato205 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AnimeALX with this logic do we ban nami?

    • @AnimeALX
      @AnimeALX 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@wetpotato205 no one even brought her up. Lmao

    • @wetpotato205
      @wetpotato205 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AnimeALX ik but im saying with your logic they have to keep law in mind making cards its better to ban him. its the same logic with nami they do keep her in mind making blue cards so should they just ban her?

    • @AnimeALX
      @AnimeALX 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@wetpotato205 no because she isn't topping tournaments. Law is. This was a terrible analogy lol

  • @420absolutezero
    @420absolutezero 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so ban gordon

  • @omegashock38
    @omegashock38 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Leader bans are not the way

  • @CarlosRodriguez-sv4wd
    @CarlosRodriguez-sv4wd 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The meta being Saka vs rp law x by luffy sounds awful and very unfun. Im glad saka was banned, i think law was ok until 08. Black maria should never have been printed and some cards shouldve been leader locked like reiju

  • @jptheredsoxfan
    @jptheredsoxfan 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    problem with making Saka only able to do one of his 2 abilities is that it misses the point of why saka is powerful. Saka was powerful because of cycling and being able to craft your hand every turn. If they wanted to keep his identity as that, they should have taken away the -1 when attacking, and locking his ability to only discard a navy card

  • @DynosaurusRexx
    @DynosaurusRexx 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think "errataing" a card to the point it's effect is completely different is something that should never happen. Reading the card should explain the cars, especially in a relatively new game that is trying to attract new players.

  • @False-AT
    @False-AT 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    just limit BlackMaria to "Animal Kingdom Leader" only! Bandai only needs to lay out the rule for it, so in deck checks we can see if decks are legal or not.
    Also ban Gordon. That way RP Law loses bottomdecking and don recovery abilities, but would still be good. Like the Gordon will be replaced by Firefist, but that would still be a 2Don instead of a 1Don play.
    I hate banning Leaders if we could just fix stuff by laying out the rules for it. As you said i think leaderlocking is the goto!

  • @nooksta45
    @nooksta45 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Limit / restrict Black Maria to 1 or 2. She bypasses the downside to Law. I love the deck, been playing RP Law since I started OPTCG. But she seems to be the core problem.
    The fact they printed her with 2k counter is ridiculous.

    • @kamikaze.33
      @kamikaze.33 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Other purple leaders NEEDED a card like her though in order to even be relevant. They shouldn't have to be punished just because this leader exists...

  • @user-hs4ct8kg8n
    @user-hs4ct8kg8n 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Actually, i think banning Gordon is the right move. 8 of the same card is ridiculous

  • @AnimeALX
    @AnimeALX 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Leave kid and killer out of this. Red needed that card and it's not that powerful compared to Moria or bigmom. Kid and Killer leader lock hurts decks like RY Sabo and he shouldn't get nerfed for RP Laws sins

  • @elevenpiece
    @elevenpiece 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    same. they shouldn't banned sakazuki.

  • @kp6137
    @kp6137 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First of all bro, not just japan official tournaments even singapore cs and gao both top 4 also got rekt by rp law. Design a red and purple leader with blue specialty mechanism bottom deck is just straight a joke move from the very beginning kek. Bandai has been really careful on designing blue cards after releasing nami as leader because they dont fucking want to have their own version of exodia deck in opcg and it is very unfair for the blue gang. Because from there onwards , blue is just straight up the weakest color by its own and probably can compete with multi color blue. Fuck bandai and make blue great again!

  • @ace_sweethell292
    @ace_sweethell292 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not even worth arguing, Law will be 100% banned.
    The effect is really just a mistake, red/purple with a blue effect is just dumb.