@@theorymaster6310 this pianist is almost certainly a concert pianist. Not sure off the top of my head, but most people think it’s a South Korean piano player of whom the name slips my mind
Rach 3 Cadenza has to be up there in difficulty level. On another note, there are a few channels that highlight forgotten composers, I made a playlist of some, which are worth listening to. Atterberg, Hummel, and Ries to name a few.
@@samaritan29 i played prokofiev 2, while the cadenza is hard af I don’t think it’s harder than the rach 3 ossia cadenza (that being said I think overall prok 2 is a harder piece than rach 3)
Some other references for those interested- {LEVEL 1} Mozart: most of the 27 concertos' cadenzas are this level Beethoven: Cadenzas to concertos n°1 and 2 Haydn: Cadenzas to the 11 keyboard concertos {LEVEL 2} Beethoven: Cadenzas to concertos 3, 4 and 5 Grieg: Cadenza to his piano concerto (would actually put this one here along with Beethoven. While the Cadenza is very flashy, it's not so difficult.) Schumann: Cadenza to his piano concerto {LEVEL 3} Scharwenka - Cadenzas to the 4 piano concertos Tchaikovsky- Cadenza to the piano concerto n°1 Bach - cadenza from Brandenburg Concerto n°5 Ravel - Cadenza to the piano concerto in g Schnittke- Cadenza to the Concerto for piano and strings {BONUS / LEVEL 4} Rachmaninoff - Cadenzas to concertos n°1 and 3 Prokofiev - Cadenza to concerto n°2 Ginastera - Cadenza from the Concerto Ravel - Left hand concerto cadenza Feinberg - Concerto n°1, third movement
The part at 4:28 is Beethoven trolling the pianist right? Seen him do this in some of his other works including Hammerklavier sonata, trills in both hands whilst having to play other melody notes in both hands all at the same time, probably puts this above the grieg in terms of difficulty...
Well, in the Grieg cadenza you have to simultaneously trill in thirds and play the melody in octaves with your right hand while playing fast arpeggios eith your left hand. Grieg is hands down more difficult.
@@saumdehganpour7598 That part of the Beethoven cadenza isn't as hard as it sounds, and I know that as a pianist. I mean, I can play it easily, and that's not any kind of flex because it's genuinely not that difficult.
So nice hear that Mozart. I played that concerto with my school orchestra at age 14 and worked hard on the cadenza. I have played thru the other two many times just for my own edification. Thanks!
BRAVO, Maestro! It's as if I am at Disney Hall. Beethoven Concerto 3 Cadenza is so joyfully played, would love to see/hear the whole piece. Like the other 2 concertos as well. I love this format. What a treat! Thank YOU ❤️
Oh, Traum. Good old Beethoven no. 3 in C Minor brings back such memories. I studied it for my School Certificate (I think that would be GCSE in England but I have no idea what the equivalent would be elsewhere) and I well remember the cadenza. Wasn't it the first time Beethoven actually wrote out the full cadenza for the soloist instead of leaving it to their discretion? My School C was some 40 years ago now, so I could have misremembered. Lovely work as usual.
@Kylee Maloney I was at Disney Concert Hall on Jan 30, Igor Levitt performed the Beethoven Concerto 3. According to the program book, on April 5, 1803, the score of Concerto was not finished by the rehearsal at 8 am and remained a work in progress during the premier. Beethoven's pupil , Ignaz von Seyfried was the page turner and he said " I saw empty pages with here and there what looked like Egyptian hieroglyphs, totally unintelligible to me, scribbled to serve as a clues for him. Beethoven played nearly all of his part from memory, since he had put so little on page. So, whenever he reached the end of some invisible passage, he gave me a surreptitious nod and I turn the page. My anxiety not to miss such a nod amused him greatly and the recollection of it at our convivial dinner after the concert sent him into gales of laughter." The Concerto had a Second Premier in Vienna a year later, from the finished manuscript - presumably without hieroglyphs- and the honor of playing was given to Ferdinand Rises by Beethoven.
😲😲😲 I'm learning Beethoven piano concerto no 3 rn! Especially the cadenza right now. I was SO GLAD to see this here. Thank you Traum!! You just made my day again
Love your videos maestro was so scared when you stopped for a while been watching the channel since 1k subs I am so glad that you are still uploading 😀
Traum you’re amazing. You should have your own orchestra that PAYS YOU to accompany you for concertos. Thank you for everything you do. Going through a hard break up right now and your videos are making me cry, but in a good way that’s needed. Love you Traum!
Thought rach 3 cadenza would be here, it's technically definitely one of the hardest cadenzas written for piano, either the normal or the ossia are extremely hard, but it's also nice that you picked diferent pieces.
@@pv89820 exactly! I left a reply to the newest comment on Prelude 16, he outright called T a cheater, I just can't let it go. But another person had the decency to reply and admit he made an incorrect comment.
@@Traumfanblueheron I feel the same way. I was also quite surprised at the number of comments accusing Traum of speeding it up. Honestly, they’re just complimenting him, because he’s just playing that well
@@pv89820 T told me to just ignored those comments but unfortunately these false accusations can/will influence some people who are not familiar with Traum's technical skills. I just don't want to see the hard work he puts in be wasted.
I formerly loved griegs first piano concerto but I did not know that it is possible to perform as well as you did in this video! Love your playstyle and the sound of your Piano
Grieg's cadenza is great fun to play - it's got some tricky bits but a lot of is quite playable for a good amateur. Prok PC2 and Rach 3 ossia cadenzas are much more difficult.
Grieg's concerto is so underrated. It used to be my favorite before I discovered the Transcendental Etudes (before I only knew the Hungarian Rhapsody 2 and 6, which are honestly not that good).
favourite etude? i learnt some of molto vivace or fusées but i think vision, eroica and feux follets especially takes the cake. but they're all just marvellous
@@Frankoceanswhale harmonies -> eroica -> molto vivace -> appassionata -> i dont really the others much now but -> chasse neige -> vision -> mazeppa -> feux follets -> i really dont like the rest of them but if i had to rank them -> wild jagd -> preludio -> paysage -> ricordanza. i disagree with feux follets, it just sounds like a flex, and ricordanza honestly shouldnt be that low, but its literally just 9 minutes of absolute crap and 1 minute of ok-ness. also harmonies is extremely underrated but its so beautiful and shows the other side to liszt.
Level 4 rachmaninoff piano conerto 1 in f sharp minor, level 5 prokofiev piano concerto 2 in g minor, level Rachmaninoff poano concerto 3 in D minor Ossia cadenza, ps i have played the ossia cadenza and im 19 so you sir can play it my hand spand is only a 11th its only by the grace of God i can play anything in piano so I can glorify God in my piano playing, this year i head off to college at Marshall University to study as Piano major as a performer
The third Beethoven concerto is just so beautiful. Have you played Mozart K467, Traum? The first movement is just gorgeous, especially if you find or write a nice cadenza for the end.
this guy's repertoire is insane, what a great concert pianist
do they do concerts? genuine curiosity
@@theorymaster6310 who
@@theorymaster6310 this pianist is almost certainly a concert pianist. Not sure off the top of my head, but most people think it’s a South Korean piano player of whom the name slips my mind
I can’t stand use of “insane”. Use the right word. Very simple.
Otherwise I have to think about what you mean.
@@srothbardt shut up, if this is hard to understand for you then you should probably stay away from TH-cam comments
What's your favorite piano concerto? 😀
Rach 2
Rach piano concerto no.2
Rach 2 hits different
Mozart piano concerto no23 adagio is awesome!!
Rach 3!
I kind of like seeing the sheet music. This format is nice.
agreed I much prefer the score than synthesia
Yesss
@@cschlums2235 agreed
Watching your fingers glide across the keys while playing these is actually so mesmerizing. you make it look so easy it’s crazy.
Shocked by the quality of the video ! Thank you for all
Rach 3 Cadenza has to be up there in difficulty level. On another note, there are a few channels that highlight forgotten composers, I made a playlist of some, which are worth listening to. Atterberg, Hummel, and Ries to name a few.
Where can we get that playlist man?
@@fryderyckchopin484 on my channel in the playlists or type in forgotten composers in the search bar. Both me and franzlists have one.
prokofiev 2 harder
Yes, the Ossia is insane.
@@samaritan29 i played prokofiev 2, while the cadenza is hard af I don’t think it’s harder than the rach 3 ossia cadenza (that being said I think overall prok 2 is a harder piece than rach 3)
Some other references for those interested-
{LEVEL 1}
Mozart: most of the 27 concertos' cadenzas are this level
Beethoven: Cadenzas to concertos n°1 and 2
Haydn: Cadenzas to the 11 keyboard concertos
{LEVEL 2}
Beethoven: Cadenzas to concertos 3, 4 and 5
Grieg: Cadenza to his piano concerto (would actually put this one here along with Beethoven. While the Cadenza is very flashy, it's not so difficult.)
Schumann: Cadenza to his piano concerto
{LEVEL 3}
Scharwenka - Cadenzas to the 4 piano concertos
Tchaikovsky- Cadenza to the piano concerto n°1
Bach - cadenza from Brandenburg Concerto n°5
Ravel - Cadenza to the piano concerto in g
Schnittke- Cadenza to the Concerto for piano and strings
{BONUS / LEVEL 4}
Rachmaninoff - Cadenzas to concertos n°1 and 3
Prokofiev - Cadenza to concerto n°2
Ginastera - Cadenza from the Concerto
Ravel - Left hand concerto cadenza
Feinberg - Concerto n°1, third movement
Love the production quality on this video!!
Editing, sheet music, musical "intermissions", sound quality, everything was 💯
🙏
Absolutely love the addition of the score above the keyboard
The part at 4:28 is Beethoven trolling the pianist right? Seen him do this in some of his other works including Hammerklavier sonata, trills in both hands whilst having to play other melody notes in both hands all at the same time, probably puts this above the grieg in terms of difficulty...
Well, in the Grieg cadenza you have to simultaneously trill in thirds and play the melody in octaves with your right hand while playing fast arpeggios eith your left hand. Grieg is hands down more difficult.
@@late8641 that’s not a trill in thirds, it’s a tremolo, the Beethoven cadenza is definitely more tricky
@@saumdehganpour7598 That part of the Beethoven cadenza isn't as hard as it sounds, and I know that as a pianist. I mean, I can play it easily, and that's not any kind of flex because it's genuinely not that difficult.
Matters how you play it
So nice hear that Mozart. I played that concerto with my school orchestra at age 14 and worked hard on the cadenza.
I have played thru the other two many times just for my own edification. Thanks!
i love this presentation with the sheet music way more than the synthesia ones, hope to see more like this though
BRAVO, Maestro! It's as if I am at Disney Hall. Beethoven Concerto 3 Cadenza is so joyfully played, would love to see/hear the whole piece. Like the other 2 concertos as well.
I love this format.
What a treat! Thank YOU ❤️
Thank YOU ;)
Grieg's is so beautiful, it's like from another world.
Oh, Traum. Good old Beethoven no. 3 in C Minor brings back such memories. I studied it for my School Certificate (I think that would be GCSE in England but I have no idea what the equivalent would be elsewhere) and I well remember the cadenza. Wasn't it the first time Beethoven actually wrote out the full cadenza for the soloist instead of leaving it to their discretion? My School C was some 40 years ago now, so I could have misremembered. Lovely work as usual.
@Kylee Maloney
I was at Disney Concert Hall on Jan 30, Igor Levitt performed the Beethoven Concerto 3.
According to the program book, on April 5, 1803, the score of Concerto was not finished by the rehearsal at 8 am and remained a work in progress during the premier. Beethoven's pupil , Ignaz von Seyfried was the page turner and he said " I saw empty pages with here and there what looked like Egyptian hieroglyphs, totally unintelligible to me, scribbled to serve as a clues for him. Beethoven played nearly all of his part from memory, since he had put so little on page. So, whenever he reached the end of some invisible passage, he gave me a surreptitious nod and I turn the page. My anxiety not to miss such a nod amused him greatly and the recollection of it at our convivial dinner after the concert sent him into gales of laughter."
The Concerto had a Second Premier in Vienna a year later, from the finished manuscript - presumably without hieroglyphs- and the honor of playing was given to Ferdinand Rises by Beethoven.
@@Traumfanblueheron That's a really cute story :D I almost can image Seyfried look dead inside on the stage lol
@@jessicachiu5953
Amazing isn't it! He must be so terrified. And then to think about what a genius Beethoven is.
Traum you’re my favorite pianist on this site. Such engaging visuals and stellar performances. Keep it up brotha
Mozart's cadenzas can be a piece on their own.
Beautiful sharing dear friend 😊😊
Skipping a lot of notes in the left hand 😄 in the Grieg. that’s how concert pianists play it! Love it!!
😲😲😲 I'm learning Beethoven piano concerto no 3 rn! Especially the cadenza right now. I was SO GLAD to see this here. Thank you Traum!! You just made my day again
I’d pay to hear you play Beethoven concertos live!!
Me too
8:42 you nailed that lungo trillo!
Sensationell! Immer wieder beeindruckend!
I loved this video, nice to see some people love cadenzas as much as i do
Love your videos maestro was so scared when you stopped for a while been watching the channel since 1k subs I am so glad that you are still uploading 😀
quite revolutionary
Traum you’re amazing. You should have your own orchestra that PAYS YOU to accompany you for concertos. Thank you for everything you do. Going through a hard break up right now and your videos are making me cry, but in a good way that’s needed. Love you Traum!
Grande maestro Traum🛐 como siempre interpretaciones muy limpias y con excelente calidad de audio, simplemente hermoso👏🏻👏🏻
Very Cool TRAUM~ Thank you!
🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹
피알못이지만 치시는 스타일이랑 피아노 소리가 너무 잘어울려요
I’d LOVE to see a video of you playing the piano over a piano concerto recording of the orchestra (like how kassia did with rach..). this is amazing.
You are just awesome. Thank you.
more of this! so insightful!
Yay!! This is going to be amazing!!!!!!! Thank you for showing the score too! (I’m sure that was a pain….). You’re amazing!
Fantastic video Traum!
Goosebumps everywhere
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I absolutely adore Beethoven’s third piano concerto
This was so neat - bravo. I've played (and still play) all these concertos, and each time I learn something new.
Epic Video as always Traum!
Really quality of video!!
Thought rach 3 cadenza would be here, it's technically definitely one of the hardest cadenzas written for piano, either the normal or the ossia are extremely hard, but it's also nice that you picked diferent pieces.
I would absolutely love to see more of these. Entire concertos maybe ????
Thank you traum! ❤️
Truam: I will now post monthly
Also Traum:
I like the sheet music set up Traum!
Level 4: Rach 3.
Level 5: Prokofiev 2.
Great performance btw
Really like this style of videos, and the audio is really good too
@pv_pro
Surprisingly good work for an amateur! 😉😁
@@Traumfanblueheron haha yeah, I haven’t seen a response yet, and I honestly hope I don’t; I really don’t like talking with those kind of people
@@pv89820 exactly!
I left a reply to the newest comment on Prelude 16, he outright called T a cheater, I just can't let it go.
But another person had the decency to reply and admit he made an incorrect comment.
@@Traumfanblueheron I feel the same way. I was also quite surprised at the number of comments accusing Traum of speeding it up. Honestly, they’re just complimenting him, because he’s just playing that well
@@pv89820 T told me to just ignored those comments but unfortunately these false accusations can/will influence some people who are not familiar with Traum's technical skills.
I just don't want to see the hard work he puts in be wasted.
Very, very beautiful is a really sensational thing, and well executed 👏🤩
Always epic
I don't know what is cadenza... But definitely understand insane 😱 stunning....
Excellent!
Excellent Job 🎹🎶👏
Absolutely fantastic!!
It's really good audio and orchestra. The quality of camera is amazing too! It was live recordered? Anyway great job Traum! :)
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@@TraumPiano can you do the cadenza from Prokofiev piano concerto no. 2
@@sergei-prokofiev one of my favorites!
Happy valentines day Traum!
Unexpected type of video, but love it!
I love your interpretation my friend
Bravo and thank you! 🙏🥰
Your play is ridiculously beautiful. I don’t want to be jealous but I am. Good job mate
Nice playing
Beautifully played, though I'd definitely put the Beethoven cadenza over the Grieg in terms of difficulty.
Loving that the VSL pianos are getting some use.
OMG BEETHOVENS 3RD!!! SEEING SOME REPRESENTATION!!!
This is incredible
I can't wait until Traum plays a full Piano Concerto.
Bravo, Traum! 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 😀
좋아요 악보를 위에 띄우니까 새롭네요 !!
Yo, love the Beethoven! I know this one pretty well, played for a competition a while ago, it's really fun to play!
I formerly loved griegs first piano concerto but I did not know that it is possible to perform as well as you did in this video! Love your playstyle and the sound of your Piano
than listen to gilels, zimermans, or michaelangelis recording
악보랑 같이 보니까 너무 좋아요!!!!! 근데 편집하는거 힘드셨을듯 ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
😭
You should do more videos of this type, they are good.
I imagine how good it would be if you play beethoven 3 in a concert hall
Traum, you should try playing “Grande Polonaise Brilliante, Op. 22” by Chopin. I’d love to hear you play it
YES
ME TOOO
Yes
Insane
You are legeond Traum!!!
Maravilha!!!! Parabéns!!!! Q delícia tocar assim!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏🇧🇷🙋♀️
Grieg's cadenza is great fun to play - it's got some tricky bits but a lot of is quite playable for a good amateur. Prok PC2 and Rach 3 ossia cadenzas are much more difficult.
Grieg's concerto is so underrated. It used to be my favorite before I discovered the Transcendental Etudes (before I only knew the Hungarian Rhapsody 2 and 6, which are honestly not that good).
favourite etude? i learnt some of molto vivace or fusées but i think vision, eroica and feux follets especially takes the cake. but they're all just marvellous
@@Frankoceanswhale harmonies -> eroica -> molto vivace -> appassionata -> i dont really the others much now but -> chasse neige -> vision -> mazeppa -> feux follets -> i really dont like the rest of them but if i had to rank them -> wild jagd -> preludio -> paysage -> ricordanza. i disagree with feux follets, it just sounds like a flex, and ricordanza honestly shouldnt be that low, but its literally just 9 minutes of absolute crap and 1 minute of ok-ness. also harmonies is extremely underrated but its so beautiful and shows the other side to liszt.
Grieg’s concerto is probably the most played piano concerto in the repertoire. Not sure how it’s underrated lol
@@epthopper haha yeah ik that now somehow I didn't know that 10 months ago...
If you're at Traum's level of technique, the levels here are reversed. Playing Mozart cleanly and expressively is actually quite difficult.
amazing!
Good video piano god
Epic
Excellent piano work. For me, the Grieg cadenza is easier than the Beethoven, because most of it is simple arpeggios.
Magnifico
Prokofiev's 2nd PC has to have the most difficult cadenza in the standard repertoire! Up there with Bartok 2 as a whole piece.
and i think rach 3 the ossia one. its just insane imo
Yes Prokofiev 2 indeed.
Alright I would love to see you playing the second Prokofiev Piano Concerto Cadenza
Level 4 rachmaninoff piano conerto 1 in f sharp minor, level 5 prokofiev piano concerto 2 in g minor, level Rachmaninoff poano concerto 3 in D minor Ossia cadenza, ps i have played the ossia cadenza and im 19 so you sir can play it my hand spand is only a 11th its only by the grace of God i can play anything in piano so I can glorify God in my piano playing, this year i head off to college at Marshall University to study as Piano major as a performer
holy shit the editing getting better
Never thought I'd see this type of content from traum. Though it's a warm welcome! Is that an Orchestra I hear aswell? Amazing!
Eyes peeled watching this
Потрясающие отрывки, один лучше другого! Мощная энергетика, драматизм и филигранность исполнения! Браво, Traum! ))) Интересно, где Вы учились?
Can you make a video on how you practice?
YESSSS
Let’s gooo !
So Traum . Which one was the easy piece ? 🤪🤪🤪 You're priceless !!!
Seeing the score is much better than synthesia
Cool
Can you do the cadenza of Prokofiev piano concerto no. 2
can u do full Grieg concerto
The third Beethoven concerto is just so beautiful. Have you played Mozart K467, Traum? The first movement is just gorgeous, especially if you find or write a nice cadenza for the end.