Battle of the Best Snowmobile Helmets | Carbon Oxygen VS. Mission | What's best for you?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 เม.ย. 2023
- Mike's dog Sadie helps us understand the nitty gritty details behind both of these top-of-the-line carbon fiber snowmobile helmets. We have put them to the test and compiled as much information as we could, so saddle up - this is a long one - and figure out what helmet is right for your needs!
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Thanks for this great review, your effort is truly appreciated!
Really appreciate the kind words man! Hope you found it helpful. Cheers, Mike
Thank You Thank You Thank You- I narrowed my choice of Helmet down to The Oxygen and Mission but could not decide which was better for me. Not only did you answer the questions i had about each helmet you addressed things i never even considered . Very informative video based on real world experience! Thanks to your thoroughness I now have the best helmet- just need the snow!
Wow thanks so much for your comment Lawrence! Really happy to hear our video was able to help you make the final decision. Have a great summer! Cheers, Mike
Great review Mike. No surpises on both helmets. Our riding group here in New Hampshire have a mix of Oxygen and Mission helmets. We have more guys riding with the Mission vs the Oxygen. Everything you mention hit the nail on the head.
Thanks brother. Appreciate it. Ya we really just tried to culminate all our thoughts on these helmets into one video - thats why its 40 mins lol. Our hope was that it was super detailed and gives potential buyers all they need to know to make an educated decision on what is right for them. Cheers, Mike
Great video! I had the Oxygen for two seasons and last season got the Mission. I wear glasses when I ride and had a lot of fogging issues with the Oxygen on really cold days. No fogging with the Mission, my glasses stay dry and crystal clear. I removed the breath box, but the helmet is always plugged in.
Okay great to know! Thanks for the feedback. Cheers, Jesse
Great video, nailed it!
Thanks Richard! Cheers, Mike
Hey Mike! great video! I needed to buy a new helmet mid-season (couldn't wait for your review, even though I knew it was coming). I went with Mission. I do love that you don't need to plug it in. You are right about lack of neck skirt. I always wear a high neck warmer with it. I never need a balaclava under it (though the coldest I rode with it was -25). As for the cheek pads in the Mission, lots of people find them too tight. Retailers can order you a size up if you request. eg. my helmet is a medium, so they ordered my size large cheek pads. In the end I didn't need them, the padding got worn down, or I got used to them. But i know a lot of people had the same issue.
Hey thanks Kathy! It's a great helmet and I will be changing mine for an XL next season anyways. Cheers, Mike
Hey Mike , thanks for a great review , i have been going back and forth on trying to decide if i want the Mission or Oxygen , when your paying that kind of money you hopefully make the right choice , i run a titan now which is tipping the scales so to speak, i also run the battery pack and a biteharder light as we do a lot of night riding , i think you helped me make my final , thanks again for the time and effort it takes to make these videos , Bernie
Glad I could help. Cheers, Mike
Great review as usual guys. Love the Oxygen, on warmer days just lift the visor about 1 cm, problem solved!
Glad you liked it! Appreciate your support. Have a great summer! Cheers, Jesse
My BRP Modular 2 is still my favourite, I love the mask for exhausting breath out the side and not having to be plugged in. I need a new one, but don’t like some of the drawbacks mentioned about that mission with the neck skirt freezing up - I regularly ride in -25 or lower for long periods of time.
I may try it out, maybe I’ll have to look into fixes for that.
The mod is definitely a great helmet. Curious if you find a fix for the neck skirt freezing - if you do please let us know! Cheers, Jesse
I ended up getting my wife and I some Oxygen helmets. Carbon for her and regular for me. I tried the Mission and didn't like how closed in it felt. The Oxygen felt open and has an excellent field of view. Good review, thanks!
Thanks Ron! You will love the Oxygen. It is our go-to helmet.
I also have both of those helmets and ended up changing the breath deflector to the short version in the Mission, and it made a huge difference, especially with using glasses, ymmv. Everything else Mike said is spot on!
Thanks! What do you mean by the short version? Is there another style of breathe box or did you just remove it altogether? Cheers, Mike
@@sledaddicz there is 3 or 4 sizes of breath boxes for the mission. Talk to your Kimpex dealer for the numbers.
@@canadiansigs152 cool. Good to know!
Great video - I have the Oxygen, everything stated about it in the video is accurate. I also had an issue with delam on the visor - dealer dealt with it on the spot, never had an issue with the cord yet. Looking forward to the BRP Advex next year - looks like BRP has taken cues from the Mission, can’t wait to pay probably $2000 for a helmet 😂
Hey Devilman! Glad you liked it. Ya the BRP dealers are really great at warrantying them. Haha ya 2k sounds about right lol. Cheers, Jesse
Hi Mike, thanks for following up with the end of season review. I’ve been waiting for this since you mentioned it last year. Like you I’ve been running both helmets and switching off (for three seasons now) and one major disadvantage of the Oxygen that’s pretty well known is at high speeds, like on a lake for example, it pulls up… hard. Something with the aerodynamics I’m sure. I’m actually on my second Oxygen, the first one failed and the dealer had to swap it out. At 32:00 you mention the heat settings for the visor, but that is false. The green indicator is for the visor, but the low, medium, high orange light is for the heat in the element in the top of the helmet. Thanks again, looking forward to more like this one.
Not so sure you are current one the operation of the controller. If you measure voltage at the contact points on each side of the helmet, they change from 6 to 9 to 12 volts as you change the settings on the switch. I believe those points and connected to the shield element as well as the garage. I could be wrong, wont be the first time.
Hey Dominator. Funny enough I actually find that the mission pulls up much more at speeds due to the sun peak then my oxygen ever has. In terms of the visor, the green indicator just tells you the heated element is working, and the orange lights tells you the amount of heat the element is producing. Cheers, Mike
I think ckx has had it figured out for a few years now. I liked all of mine, never had to be hooked up to the cord. Now I have the carbon-fiber mission, puts it over the top in my opinion.
Yes it's a great helmet for sure! Cheers, Mike
Love my mission..had it since it first came out and picked one up for the girlfriend as well.
I do agree their warranty process isn't the best, I had two visors delaminate on my mission. Both were replaced under warranty but I had to wait a long time for stock.
Yep that was our experience too. Great helmets though! Cheers, Mike
Very good comparison of the two. I have the Mission and like it a lot but on warmer days I find it too warm. I am ordering a new Titan this year to give that a try for warmer days. Thanks for another great video!
Simple fix that really makes a difference.. unvelcro the chin skirt and then fold it and only attach the tips closer to your chin.. it funnels an incredible amount of fresh air into the lower part of the helmet.. feels great on those warmer days!
Thanks very much! I have the Titan as well and it's a good helmet for MX style with the heated goggles! Cheers, Mike
In the USA shield warranty is easy assuming the dealer has spare shields on the shelf and is willing to help you. The dealer files a warranty claim with Kimpex and will be credited back typically within 48 hours with no need to ship the defective shield back to Canada. If Kimpex is out of shields and the dealer doesn't have any that is where you can run into wait time issues. If the dealer has replacement shields and is willing to give you one the process is simple. Kimpex has been encouraging dealers to stock excess shields in case of warranty. I believe the process may be different in Canada but this is how it works here in the US.
Two years using my Mission and no issues with the shield....fingers crossed for next season.
I guess it just depends on the dealer then but certainly didn't seem that easy for our buddy Jeff. Cheers, Mike
@@sledaddicz it definitely depends on the dealer and Kimpex requires the consumer to seek warranty where they purchased the helmet.
I had the same warranty issues with CKX. I bought the helmet at our local Ski Doo dealer (Bay Marine A++ dealer) and they did their best to help out with the visor and breath box issues I had. In the end the dealer gave me a full refund for the mission and $100 dollars off on a new Oxygen. Haven't looked back. I had high hopes for the mission with no power cord but in the end was disappointed. Might revisit it as maybe I bought a dud helmet.
Yup - that lines up with our experience with CKX. It's unfortunate that a company that makes such a great product can't provide great customer service and warranty. It will definitely push people away. Cheers, Jesse
If I get a Mission helmet again this season, I will be cutting the neck curtain to where the velcro will not touch. So basically a chin guard. Not a neck guard. It always felt to bulky and I couldn't move my neck very well with the chin curtain.
Interesting. We actually like the neck guard and prefer the bigger neck guard on the oxygen. Every one is different though so whatever works for you. I personally never found it bulky. Cheers, Jesse
I have not tried an Oxygen but I find that my Mission is great with Glasses. If I am putting along under 20 mph I get some fogging with my glasses but once I get some speed up I can keep my glasses clear. Previously had a BV2S and Mod 2 and could not wear glasses with those at all.
I had a heck of a time getting the speakers from my Cardo's to be comfortable. They still hurt my ears on a long day.
Hey Kevin! Thanks for your comment. Glad to hear the mission is working well with glasses for you. Yup the speakers still bother me in my mission as well and am having trouble finding the perfect spot for them. Thats where the oxygen comes in - the speakers are in a much better position and don't press on your ears. I think I might cut out an insert in the foam to seat the speaker in to prevent it from pushing on my ears in the mission. Cheers, Jesse
I bought an Oxygen helmet. I really like it it's super light.. I had a Gmax modular which weighed almost 5 pounds.. I debated on the Mission I can't handle anything sucked to my face.. I wear glasses .. I just leave it cracked for couple min if I'm foggy.. close the shelf and I'm good.. Only thing I don't like I wish the sun visor went down further..
Yes, it's definitely great and especially for glasses. I think it's a better choice with glasses for sure. Cheers, Mike
I had bought a Samoyed from a breeder ,he wound up having a hole in his heart and they told me i can bring him back for a refund! Not happening had spunky in my life for 7 yrs with special treatment, still miss him 18 yrs later!! Sadie is beautiful 👍👍
Aww you are a special guy for doing that. Spunky sounds like he was well loved and had a fulfilling life. Our other dog Mia was a rescue. Cheers, Mike
For me the oxegen is a great helmet, I wear glasses, do not like nose pieces very easy choice. Also from other reviews found da the oxegen to be much less nosy front both wind and externa noise, I just love the oxegen the only I had to remove the internal ear muffs to get help et to fit, great video, Christopher ottawa
Just so you know the breath box is removable in the Mission. Removing it increases the likelihood that it will need to be plugged in to remain fog free.
@@jamesmullen75 yes I know this were I sled in Quebec north average temp is -15 to 25 since I cannot use breath box. The folks I have spoken, either find mission to be very wind noisy
@@christophergeorge6581 weird.. everyone I ride with says it's one of the quietest helmets they have ever worn. To each their own of course. Cheers!
Hey Chris! Yes the oxygen is definitely significantly quieter then the mission, that's forsure. Cheers, Jesse
My Modular 2 doesn’t need to be plugged in either, many times I’ve been the only one with a clear visor - even when some others in the group had heated visors.
I can’t imagine going back to a helmet without a facemask/breath box.
It's worth a change for all of the benefits you get with these newer helmets! Give one a try! Cheers, Mike
Would love to see a review on the new 509 Delta V commander for this season..👀👀🤔🤔
Hey man! We will try to get our hands on one to try but can't promise. Cheers, Jesse
On warm days crack the visor and pull the neck curtain out from your jacket. I’ve never been too hot with mine while trail riding. I wear glasses so the mission is a no go. My son wears the mission and is happy with it.
lots of people with the Mission wear glasses...
@@jamesmullen75 I tried it and it would clip my frames when the shield was lowered. Once the shield is down , you cant adjust anything. Perhaps smaller frames or different face dimensions make it possible with others. It just did not work for me.
@@edileo2112 did you try either adjusting the breath box tension to pull it away from the glasses or a different length breath box? There are 3 different length breath boxes available from CKX.
@@jamesmullen75 no I did not. I just tried on my son's helmet. I had no idea of the different options. I appreciate you letting me know. My wife may be getting a new helmet for next season, I will have her try on the Mission with those tips in mind. ty
Glad you are liking it! I usually get hot really quick thats why I prefer the mission on warmer days just because its a cooler helmet. Cheers, Jesse
Not NEEDing to be plugged in to avoid fogging on normal days is the huge factor for me. Next helmet will be a mission
Yep I agree. It's a huge bonus for the Mission helmet and I love it. Cheers, Mike
As a full time 4 eyes I've always run a non heated goggle. Once fogs for the first 30 seconds then I just pull it out for a sec and it never fogs. I've been waiting for this video for months as I Wana try the mission but you just can't beat the line of site with goggles
I did a review on the MIssion and had a lot or riders asking about wearing glasses. I have not put up my review on wearing glasses yet, but I find the mission to be almost too tight for glasses. My glass frames are smaller than Mike's frames. I was able to wear them for roughly an hour but I had issues with the mask and the nose piece of my glasses. The mask kept closing over my glasses on the nose vs coming against my nose just below the glass frames. Though the helmet is designed for glasses, I was not impressed. As for fogging, once the shield was closed, the glasses cleared up very quickly, like under a minute and even quicker as I move forward on my sled. I am a mouth breather, almost never thru my nose and not once did my glasses fog, nothing. I was very impressed with that aspect of the helmet. So, in conclusion, definitly try the Mission on with glasses. You know right away if this will work or not. As for me, I do not need my glasses to ride. I hope this information helps.
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Thanks Ryan! Appreciate your comment. Both of these helmets will work for you with glasses - you just have to deal with the initial fog until you start moving. Cheers, Jesse
If the mission breathbox is anything like the one on my Modular 3, it'll suck all the warm air out, the only time Ive had to plug in was when it was snowing, -30*C and i had build up on the visor from going slow and i had to open it to check the maps, the condensation from my face and the cold air caused the inner lense to frost up.
The breath box system may be a little more confined, but it's really a great system and I'm not sure i can go without it. The freedom to move around without having to worry about cords or a cord failing is great
Do you guys notice the streak of glare at night on the Oxygen that many complain about????
I hear ya. To be honest, in 40,000 kms of wearing the oxygen I never had the cord go, and we also run a backup plugin directly off the battery just in case. But I definitely see what your saying. I myself have not noticed the streak of glare on the Oxygen and I do quite a bit of night riding, but I have definitely heard of others complaining about it. Cheers, Jesse
I were glasses and can not were contacts. I have had both helmets. And the mission was hands down better for me
Interesting! Exactly our point - everyone is different. I personally found the oxygen much better when I was wearing glasses. Cheers, Jesse
The Mission beats the Oxygen for the simple fact that if (when) your Oxygen shield fails you are screwed. The Mission doesn't need to be plugged in to be fog free. It wins.
One more thing.... Next season the CKX Mission will be the only full face snow helmet with an option for a Photochromic Electric shield! Clear to Dark Smoke Transition lens!
Yep so you pretty much should be carrying a backup cord just in case like I mentioned in the video or you are screwed. Love the Mission for this reason as well. Cheers, Mike
👍 Good helmets. I have oxygen. My friend has Mission. We are both satisfied. My observation is that the Mission has more moving parts. I am glad I don't have that breather box.
The "breather box" is fully removable if you don't like it 🙂
@steve timleck Yes it does. Plug it in like any other helmet at that point. It's still better than most others without the breathbox anyway.
Yep! Both are definitely great helmets but I can understand some guys would be annoyed by the breathe box. Cheers, Mike
@@sledaddicz Yup. I have a feeling the additional moving parts on the Mission could be a problem in the long run. I am happy with my choice. I hope it gets me to the finish line.....😀
That's the first dog l ever saw that had a helmet preference.. l wonder what brand snow mobile he prefers ?
Haha who knows!
I just ordered the new Patriot LE amd i also just canceled order..1 the sun shield not being able to be down when opened talking trail side is a BIG NO GO For me. I keep mine down all the time when stopped and BSing trail side. I NEVER had to plug in my BVS2 nor do i even have a plug in on my sled for fog. And for the price it should have the thinner cheek pads for more round faces where it will fit tight and tempt to chew on inside of cheeks. Nor do i want to feel any air leaks! Period. Ill stick to the BVS2
Cool.
After watching this again, I wonder could the peak from the Advex Sport Helmet could fit on the Oxygen?
That would be nice!!
How about a review on a titan helmet. Full face make me feel to closed in.
Hey Matt. Already done. Check out our channel page to see all our past videos. We have done about 170 vids in the past 2 seasons. Here is a link to the titan video: th-cam.com/video/D5tNy01L5iA/w-d-xo.html
Cheers, Jesse
Where do you get that rear red led light for Mission helmet?
It's from LJE Products which used to be Biteharder
Hi guys. Talking about Oxygen. I'm backcountry rider. I'm might miss or didn't hear anything about snow gets to the face. If you run heat all the way up in deep snow. How that helmet/visor works? Does it melt and freeze, or it begin to fog up? Or It's not design for deep snow? Thanks for video and answer.
Hey Roman. Thanks for reaching out! The oxygen is really designed as a trail helmet so I don't think it will work great in powder. It's also a super super warm helmet. Cheers, Jesse
thank you Guys.@@sledaddicz
I carry 2 cables with my oxygen in 3 years I've lost one cord had a spare kept on trucking next chance bought another spare and by the way snowmobiling isn't cheap lol
Haha your right about that John! The sport definitely ain't cheap. Cheers, Jesse
Any ideas about the oxygen ear muffs folding your ears over and making it uncomfortable when you are putting the helmet on ????
Hey Brad. That hasn't been an issue for Mike and I at all and that shouldn't happen if your wearing a balaclava. Also the ear muffs are velcroed and can be removed and repositioned to whatever is most comfortable for you. Cheers, Jesse
Have you guys ever dealt with cardo on a warranty issue? I’m having a hard time with them right now. Battery is pooched after a couple of uses.
Hey Richard! I have had microphones replaced under warranty but never the actual unit itself. When you say the battery is pooched what exactly do you mean? It's only lasting a couple hours? That is unfortunately relatively normal. That's why we just run battery packs in our jacket to keep our cardo's charged all day long. Cheers, Jesse
@@sledaddicz hey thanks for the reply! I am happy to say that after a bit of a back and forth, cardo is fully replacing the unit. Battery would only last 20 minutes. I purchased 6 edges this year for our crew after hearing your reviews. We are super happy with them. I’d go so far as saying they are a game changer. Boys love the tunes and chirping. For me and my business it’s awesome as I have to be available 24/7 to take calls. Appreciate your channel.
@@CCRickety wow thank you!! So glad your crew is loving them. They are definitely a game changer and they work so well. Being able to answer calls and jam to tunes definitely takes sledding to a whole new level. I'm so glad Cardo made it right and sent you a new unit. Appreciate your support brother. Cheers, Jesse
Where can I get a Ski Doo poster like yours? I asked my dealer and they don`t sell them.
We had these printed ourselves. If your looking for one let me know what you have in mind and what size and we can design one for you and let you know pricing. Cheers, Jesse
Is there any way to run the electric shield without plugging into a snowmobile? Could i just have an external battery pack? Or would i need to modify the plug?
You could probably get an external battery pack but running it off the sled is just way easier. Cheers, Jesse
@sledaddicz I don't ride snowmobiles, but your sport gear would work best for my purposes, which is long distance riding on electric unicycles in Michigan over winter.
@@magic_steve Just took a look at your channel. Super cool stuff man! Ya this gear could definitely work for you. Cheers, Jesse
Is there issues with the oxygen if it’s not plugged in?
Yes. You need to always run it plugged in or you will fog up instantly unless you keep the visor cracked. Cheers, Jesse
Love my Mission. I wear glasses. Don't wear anything on my head with this helmet. Don't have to plug it in if I don't want to or can't.
Yep! We love the Mission as well. Great to see such advancements the last few years with all of the helmets out there. Cheers Mike
Are these helmets overkill for motorcycle riding?
They would be a bit warm forsure
The oxygen is a far better helmet for comms vision sun visor and the rear light is a massive feature for rider safety . The mission works better on warmer days. For my money the oxygen is the better helmet.
I’ve ridden in -30 conditions for multiple days in the Mission helmet and was toasty warm in it.. and, bonus, never had to even plug the helmet in. Two Oxygen helmet shields failed on that trip and almost ruined the day for everyone because you can’t really ride in those temps with your shields open. Fortunately they packed spare shields just in case. I will also challenge the vision claim.. in the O2 your face sits so far back into the helmet that you can see the shell in your vision. In the Mission the shield is much closer to your face so you don’t see the helmet. The Mission will also have an available photochromic electric shield next year so kiss the internal sun shield goodbye. The O2 helmet is almost unusable is temps above 20f because the heated garage roasts you. I can add a $45 Biteharder light and still be hundreds cheaper. I’ll give it to you on the comms part though lol
Hey David. Definitely agree when it comes to comms, visibility and the sun visor. Cheers, Jesse
The oxygen is poorly vented. My head sweats something terrible in it.
Hey Darren. Yup there is definitely minimal venting in the helmet. Cheers, Jesse
The cord is junk on the oxygen
I haven't had any issues with my cord in over 40,000 kms of riding with it but I know that people have been having issues unfortunately. Cheers, Jesse
@@sledaddicz one of my cords failed. They replaced it at the dealer no questions asked.
Thanks for the review! Been debating which one to get - @flyingdutchie
Hey Jeff! Glad you liked it. You really can't go wrong with either. It just comes down to what you really want out of the helmet. Hope your enjoying the beginning of summer bro. It was awesome that you came out in the groomer for a bit also!! Cheers, Jesse
@Sledaddicz thx Jesse, great hooking up with you guys, and thx for the ride. Good times! Video covered most of my questions about either helmet
@@jeffcollins8343 awesome glad to hear that!!
Nice thing about the Oxygen is you can get the different thickness pads to dial in your size and make it fit properly. I got them for mine. I think they were 75$ it’s in the dealer book.
@@offthecuffadventureswithjamie you can also do that with the mission..