Rewiring a "just rewired" house (Part 2) | Thomas Nagy
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- In this video I am doing a house rewire that has just been rewired. I uploaded the first past some weeks ago, you can watch it here: • Rewiring a "just rewir...
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Well to be fair, it's a grinder and it sounds like it's grinding internally.
What's the security locks on your van Tom how much where from cheers , good vids
I sell hitachi grinders at my hardware store, at least the brushless ones sound like that straight out of the box. Might be that the gear doesn't engage until you spin it up.
Did the grinder by now arrive in the afterlife@bigclive ;-) ?
instablaster
Rough as a badgers arse thankfully you made the right call and rewired it. Hats off to you Sir
Hi Thomas, I know I've mentioned it before, but why won't you listen to an old guy (76 now) please for the sake of your health, get some masks to work in the loft, if you don't you will suffer in a few years time. Please take notice before it is too late.
Regards, Ray..
duly noted; will discuss this in next vid ;-)
Also wear close fitting masks when cutting chases. Silica dust is fecking nasty
Love if you could recommend one or what sepcifications to look for. Im assuming any old mask won't do.
If you really want comfort, try a PAPR,
@@cjmillsnun correct as the h&s guy at work keeps telling us it kills nearly as many as people as asbestosis per year
a loft with no insulation !! i don't think ive ever had the pleasure
haha!
... Or it was all rolled up and cleared out from between the joists before they began working in the loft ? Wouldnt take that long
😉
after seeing the Milwaukee soldering iron I soon whipped my debit card out and got one off ITS love your work and tool reviews wish the industry had more people like your self keep the videos coming love watching them.
Even though I dont know anything about electricity I highly enjoy watching your videos!
additional benefit of a switch on the usb ports - isolates the transformer from running 24/7.
yep. waste of energy and lifetime of components. just as having your monitors/work pc on "standby" 24/7 until the caps explode.
TEXAS was a very old UK home hardware store, use to be one in Haringey Arena. Chaps 35mm back-boxes as standard, don't go smaller!
i am happy that i am not an electrician in the UK, standards here in Holland are mutch higher. you will never see cabling smeared into the wal here.Ik can also see that when there are contractors from the UK come and do jobs here, they have really no clue what they are up against metal terminationboxes that can cut into the wires.
After watching shit loads of your vids, today I've realised that you are the actual real deal. Highly knowledgeable and professional. Thank you Dave. Tom's ok (ish).
Mate you’ve got to get onto ITS to hook you up with a chaser & hoover setup for your rewires. It’s super neat with minimal dust. Can even adjust the width of the blades to suit your beloved capping 😉
And quicker if you've got a lot to do!
This is the one I have, the accompanying hoover is also the tits.
Self cleans the filters & has auto startup!
Best of all it’s not a particularly expensive kit
www.its.co.uk/pd/MFE-30-Metabo-Wall-Chaser-_METMFE30.htm
glad to see the channel evolve
1:06 That b-roll footage . 🤣
B-Roll without rolls
Excellent camera and editing work, we have your head on a van to show your going somewhere without words, music in the fast fwd or loud times. A really good proper vid :)
Hi Thomas, were any of those 'people' electricians, I think I know the answer! if they are I'm glad they're not doing work for me (not that they would be I'm a sparky, retired, but maybe they might when I get too 'doddery' aaaaaah!) You will as you know always get at least 1, you do great work, thanks for the entertaining videos, great mix, keep up the good work in keeping the not so Great Britain now switched on, be lucky and stay healthy.
Big Clive has one of the best channels on TH-cam!
Another great video. I’m sure after a fair days graft it takes a fair bit of effort to edit and put together these videos, appreciate it mate. Keep em coming, all the best.
Rewire is always the best way to go if you are coming in after some one you never know what they’ve put put in never trust anyones work
hey tom,
love your vids
im a sparky in Australia and i tell you it is wild to see the difference is standards and regulations.
Here we have to have to have mechanical protection on our cabling that is exposed
love the vids
Yeah Nah. I’ve worked around the globe and fully licenced in Aus. Your standards are not something I would shout about... Soldiering Earths together and using Plastic mechanical protection constitutes poor electrical standards
As a random aside, it's interesting to see the differences between norms and requirements in different countries. Here in Norway, to my knowledge, you are required to run cabling inside walls or between floors in tubing, no exceptions.
Toms finally got the top
Can't wait for Big Clive to take a peek inside that grinder!!
I'm an apprentice electrician in NZ and its so interesting to see how different it is over there! Really awesome though
Your videos are getting better every time you upload. Keep up the good work 👍
1 of the people that complained about you charging the customer was probably the original ‘spark’ I use that term loosely lol
Tom can I have the back boxes u found in the loft pls I collect old stock , lol I've actually got wooden back boxes from the 50s
I expect it's not just easier to rewire this job but ultimately much safer too.
The MK USB power sockets you showed have a switching power supply inside, not an old school transformer.
I think because the angle grinder utilises a worm gear to allow the plane of rotation of the disc to be 90° in conjunction with the motor it will likely use a clutch mechanism to allow the cutting disc to turn independently which may be designed to click when manually rotated.
The best part of Milwaukee tools is there are just 2 batteries to stock M12 and M15 (and they also have a charger here in the USA that can charge either, thus keeping the kits smaller)
Here before big Clive!!👌🏼
So who is this mysterious camera person ?.
I must have missed when Thomas announced this.
Curious, too.
Wish they had a steadier hand 😂
Might be that Laura from the video last month is doing camera op stuff alongside sales work?
I'm curious also but I kind of prefered it the old way.
Discount code Toms Older
32 people are looking at the soldering iron at ITS. Product placement seems to be working. Although you need to link directly to the product in the description so they can get their monies worth from the advertising.
Also Milwaukee stuff comes with 3 years warranty, contact them you might get a free replacement if it's still within warranty.
I've fitted thousands of the MK Logic Plus USB sockets. I must admit I'm not overly fussed on MK products. I personally think Hager gear is of a much higher quality.
Testing isn't an issue with the USB sockets. Your only limitation is IR testing at 250v between Line & Earth and Neutral & Earth only. No different to having a fancy LED light fitted during testing.
Those Texas back boxes would be worth a mint! Should be placed in the British national museum! Who remembers Texas?! 😝
That soldering iron looks huge. I’ve been using a iroda gas soldering iron (£15) for years, small and lightweight uses lighter gas (89p for large bottle from home bargains and lasts months), fits in tool bag (no bigger than a screwdriver). Come on £175 for that huge thing! Just to be used occasionally. Oh and as much as I love the vids, you were a bit ott in trying to sell us that thing 😁
A portable soldering iron is a nice tool to have, can really save the day at times.
Though, 20-30 seconds for it to heat up is a bit of a drag....
Though, I also fully understand that one might not drag along a 100+ watt soldering station with temperature regulation and the like...
But there are semi easy ways of getting a Hakko T12 solution to run off a standard 12-18 volt tool battery or just a lithium battery pack, would heat up in less then 5 seconds, and has plenty of power to boot and tight temperature regulation so that one doesn't accidentally melt/break stuff. (Not to mention the large selection of T12 tips as well.)
Creative way of using earth sleeve
Also as a plasterer thank god for an electrician that sets the boxes properly.
I always use round conduit, don't need grommets and can pull wires up or down if required
Dave the man's name is Dave!
Thomas, have a nice day, keep doing the videos
I'll stick with my butane portasol soldering iron, it does the heat shrink on the end of the LED strip afterwards with the little hot air vent on the tip.
Great video Thom. 👍
Tom, with the amount of bad wiring work in that place I'm surprised you didn't just flat out condemn the bad work. Your redoing it to spec and I'm sure you'll get a certificate on it and be proud to put your name on it. Better safe than sorry.
Another brilliant informative video
I had MK USB sockets and apparently they are only on when a lead is plugged in. They were fine at charging, but when I tried to use my iPad/ iPhone when charging, the screen became unresponsive. MK said it wasn’t their problem as it complied with USB standards. An earthing issue I think. I’d love to hear if these new ones allow phones to work properly while charging. Cheers, and keep up the high standards!
Big Clive
Bigclivedotcom has a channel where he takes dodgy electrical and electronic items apart etc.
Little Tom was secretly listening to a cheeky bit of classical music when you went off to screwfix.
About the USB sockets, Most are no good for modern devices anyway these days and a couple of years ago when they started getting popular, it was worked out that having them powered 24/7/365 costs you £12 a year per socket. That can really build up in a house that has them everywhere. It is the same as leaving your phone charger plugged in all the time. as phones need more power and faster chargers these sockets seem to just be less and less useful especially if you factor in all the costs.
Congrats Harry Gocher
Always check the voltage coming out of the USB. I had full mains on a faulty unit directly into the usb cable... (not MK)
Good video mate 👍
Hi Tom, nothing wrong with your grinder. Mine has sounded like that from new. It's something to do with the magnets.
ENLITE make the E6 downlight with a plug in connection for first fix and insulation resistance testing with loop in loop out push fit connections made for 1.5mm2 cable.
In Northern Ireland, if you left a job with capping not conduit your name would be mud
Cheers Tom 😁 I have emailed you with details
Harry Gocher weheyy go Harry
I’d love to see you using the soldering iron on leds as you mentioned, I bought a little rechargeable one from Aldi ages ago but I’ve never actually used it😦
MK offers a separate USB module with shuttered ports (K5837). These seem to be switched by the shutter movement.
hi to I get upset when your vids end because ive learnt so much from yo and you are my role modal
I’m not a sparky, but I just don’t love USB integrated sockets. Active electronics running 24/7 just doesn’t sound like a great plan. Having an external isolator switch would be a great solution. An annoyingly bright LED active when the charging circuit is live would encourage folk to turn it off when not in use.
Second :P. Keep up the good work Tom ! Brilliant Vid as usual !! :)
i was going to get that soilding iron but i dont use it enough to make it worth it but getting one now
send that to Bigclive and then to AvE. it would be interesting to see both their opinions on this tool.
I reckon every plasterer in London must have a strong dislike for you and your persistent use of the ubiquitous plastic trunking giving them 3mm at best depth of plaster to cover it. In reality it does virtually nothing to protect the cables but results in the poor plasterer having no coverage depth and a flexible plastic tube that persistently flexes as he tries to finish of the top surface - and we all know that over time there will be tell-tale cracks appearing to highlight your handywork. If you want to use trunking then at least set it at a depth that gives the plaster a fighting chance
I was wondering about that too, there is almost no space and plastic isnt exactly the best in terms of "grip" for the stuff to hold onto.
Steve-DIFMEIWS Steve I thought the same thing.
Capping allows the wire to be re-chased should the need arise
that's what plasterboard's for mate?
I'd honestly prefer pipe for that as the cable isn't anywhere near as likely to catch on the walls of a pipe as it is on the rough brickwork.
Then on the other hand I might be prejudiced, having learned the trade in Austria where virtually any wiring is in round 20 mm (or larger depending on the wires) Copex. Even in commercial setups with trays above a grid ceiling all the vertical runs in the walls are in pipe. Only cowboys like the ones who wired this place before Tom came in will put cable straight into the wall (except in crazy situations like walls that are only 50 mm thick or vaulted brick ceilings with very little plaster that are in imminent danger of collapsing if you start chiselling at the bricks from below).
AVE might be the better one to tear that down. Sounds mechanical rather than electrical. Probably the bearings.
I personally wouldn't drill holes in 4 inch joists or any joists in the roof for that matter, leave the cables running over the joists. If any weighty bastard goes up there and stands on it they're gonna end up sprawled on the living room floor. If they want to board the loft space they shouldn't really board direct to the joists anyway.
I'm always amazed looking at those joists, having grown up in Austria where they'd much rather use entire trees for joists, although spaced further apart. Honestly, the joists underneath the room I'm sitting in right now are 25x28 cm, spaced something like 80 or 100 cm apart! Elsewhere in the house I've found 10x30 joists and even the shortest spans (less than 2 m) are 10x15. Where fire rating was an issue they'd just build the entire ceiling from tree trunks straightened on three sides and installed round side up, creating a solid timber ceiling 10 cm thick at the thinnest points! I think once plastered these reached a 90-minute fire rating with pre-1900s methods and materials. For a while these dowelled beam ceilings were actually required between living spaces and lofts. Austrian cities were a bit obsessed with fire safety from the 16th century onwards - including banning wooden stairs in buildings more than two storeys high. I think that's been lifted for a while but you're still highly unlikely to find wooden stairs in anything but a single-family home in Austria.
Your amazing Thomas Nagy I have watched every single video on your TH-cam channel.
PLEASE MAY I HAVE A SHOUT OUT.
Because conduit looks neater than capping tbh And end to end protection. especially the cheep capping that you could sneeze and the shit will snap
you should take a look at the TS-80 soldering iron, it's pretty damn awesome too and debatably more portable
The equipment is the same, but the way it's been installed differs quite a lot between UK and Sweden. Nice to see. The ugly and nasty installation is however the same, bad and dangerous. Keep up your good work.
Only two things this time Tom who’s the new camera man/woman they deserve a mention 😂 and a lot of the usb sockets can be tested safely up to 500v now a days so I guess they don’t need to be isolated for testing purposes
You can buy shed loads of cheap soldering irons before you get to £154.00, buy them two at a time and you won't break £100.00 in the next 5 years!
Not too keen on the e8s termination only due to the amount you can strip back, the E6s on the other hand have improved that greatly plenty of room and they have kept the spring terminals, Tom oval is much better I get what your saying about 2 X 2.5s but if there was a chase as big as the one for that SW you would instantly assume someone had used 32+ mm oval, although I see it's causing a good debate in comments, people saying it's pointless etc but it's always good practice and if people think it's that useless get the metal capping,
I don't know how you nail your plastic capping on. It just cracks completely when I nail into it. I prefer the metal capping.
Don't let the grinder die, put some grease in the gearbox and you may save it!
the people who say your trying to get more money out of the client are the people who would do that themselves for that reason and not for the right reason
That iron might be OK for bigger stuff, but if you (also) need to do any electronics or solder wires inside cabinets, etc., it's way too bulky. TS80 iron + USB-C Power bank or TS100 iron + Lithium pack is far more comfortable / versatile.
I'm new to the trade, so this is a genuine question, not heckling. What's wrong with using Wago connectors? They seem much better than choc block connectors.
ever thought of a butane soldering iron, my dad has had one for years. And way smaller and lighter !
Basically you can't guarantee the existing workmanship! What I mean is you can't (and I can see why) say to yourself that it's good enough.
What do you think about the pedestrianisation of norwich city centre ?
I'll be honest, I'm dead against it. People forget that traders need access to DIXONS....
😂
Steve Bennet
DIXSONS
Full of Tractors
Get away, it's a bomb!
Oh ,and big Clive, will be like, I've got something sent in by tom the electrician, let take it to bits
Haha! Well I bet you’re both happy that the loft hasn’t got any fibreglass in! My pet hate wiring in lofts 🙈
6:45 all i was thinking was please be wearing the ppe this time 😂
I hate to disagree, as you're obviously a man who knows his onions, but the only battery soldering iron for LED strip is a Weller WSM 1C
Or an inductive/micro switch, so when you put the usb in, it turns the thing on.
When you replace that grinder get something you can attach a vacuum to. Much less dust everywhere, including in your lungs!
Hi lads... If you want to get rid of the slight flicker in your footage, do this..... 1. Duplicate the clip and drag above clip 2. Drag it over 1 frame 3. Set the opacity to 50% of the top clip and trim off the 1 frame at the end or beginning :) hope this helps
Hi there Tom, is your customer planning to insulate his loft space before 'boarding' it? If so, have you carried out the relevant calculations for the impact of thermal insulation and 'grouping' on the current carrying capacity of the cable? ... or are you relying on the low current demand of LED lamps? Have they consulted a structural engineer? Those look like 4 " joists and will not have been designed to carry any weight in the loft space!
Yours Aye
GB
You mean those two 1.5 cables doing less than 2A worth of lighting in less than a 5m run?
Another interesting video, guys. Having the camera person is great, but you need to get a motorised gimbal, because the wobbly footage will get old pretty quickly.
Yeah. A rewire is the only way to go with a bodge job like that, at the end of the day you can't in good conscience let someone live in a house where you have just "tidied up" a job like that. You have no idea how bad the stuff you can't see is. I did a similar thing a few years ago where a friend of mine was left with a death trap after he had some major building work and a rewire done. I looked at it and it was a death trap. So we rewired it ourselves and someone i know who is an electrician inspected it all afterwards. He wanted to try and save it but after we ripped it all out and he saw how bad it was he agreed replacing the lot was best.
I've always used capping on what wiring i have done. Its what my uncle and dad used to use so i always done it that way.
there's no point in switching off the 5V usb generator...
over here in france, we use corrugated tube that snakes inside the wall, all the way to the customer unit, makes replacing or adding wires a breeze
BigClive will have it diagnosed and fixed in no time ;)
Neat video
Dude, I have abused our dewalt grinder and it grinds like new. Probably considerably cheaper than milwaukee too. :)
the barring has crashed in the grinder , those Milwaukee tools are Chinese made these days at USA made prices ..buy AEG they are EXACTLY the same product on the casing has different colors but the batteries fit and are cheaper
GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE BIGCLIVE ,,
NAGY GOOD WORK , YOU ARE LIKE ON SPEED AND SUGAR KILLING ANY THAT OBYECT ...
PS. FROM CROATIA WITH LOVE
Are you employing a camera operator now?
Yeah he’s gunna have a hole film crew soon named Tom dic an Dave
Why do you not use 20mm conduit for wires plastered over? Coming from northern Ireland.
Would be the way to go in most Western European countries. I don't think I've ever seen capping or oval conduit anywhere except in the UK. Of course then you've got the Germans, who'll happily tell you that pipe is so 1930s and you should just use cable straight in the plaster. I've even had Germans tell me that using pipe in walls is forbidden!
It’s a cheap way of doing it. I’ve always used 20mm conduit
The old MK usb sockets I fitted has micro switches on the shutters. Wish the ones in the rest of the house did as you can hear the high pitch noise from the power supply in them 😢