Beethoven: Tripelkonzert ∙ Angelich ∙ Shaham ∙ Gastinel ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Paavo Järvi

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  • Ludwig van Beethoven:
    Tripelkonzert ∙
    (Auftritt) 00:00 ∙
    I. Allegro 01:08 ∙
    II. Largo 19:16 ∙
    III. Rondo alla Polacca 23:26 ∙
    hr-Sinfonieorchester (Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra) ∙
    Nicholas Angelich, Klavier ∙
    Gil Shaham, Violine ∙
    Anne Gastinel, Violoncello ∙
    Paavo Järvi, Dirigent ∙
    Alte Oper Frankfurt, 6. März 2015 ∙
    Website: www.hr-sinfonieorchester.de ∙
    Facebook: / hrsinfonieorchester
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  • @marianmatei1138
    @marianmatei1138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love Gil so much, with his incessant smile and pure joy he approaches every piece, but this particular time Anne Gastinel was the undisputed star of the entire performance. Magnificent rendition under Maestro Järvi 's inspired conducting!

    • @raresshaham2164
      @raresshaham2164 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gil and Angelich made Anne a little ⭐️ 🥰👏🏻

  • @billace90
    @billace90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That Rondo alla Polacca was remarkably well executed.
    A musical jewel.
    Congratulations to the soloists, the Orchestra, and the marvelous conductor for making this possible.

  • @zamfully
    @zamfully 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A very beautiful concert. Yes Gil Shazam is a great violinist but I really like this cellist. A wonderful cellist. All three soloists are so wonderful. Such a pleasure.

  • @galinakrivulin6767
    @galinakrivulin6767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Streaming it now on tv. What a bittersweet memory of the late Great Pianist Nicholas Angelich! The amazing soloists Nicholas Angelich, Gil Shaham, Anne Gastinel, Sinfonieorchester conducted by impeccable Paavo Järvi are all that needed to make Beethoven: Tripelkonzert sound so exquisite! Thank you.

  • @bernardmallengier821
    @bernardmallengier821 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Quelle entente, et quelle mise en place de la part de tous ces musiciens, solistes, maestro et orchestre ! de la virtuosité à tous les étages, avec toutes les nuances, et surtout une joie de jouer ce chef-d'œuvre ensemble. Une remarquable version de concert.

  • @vincenzoieracitano
    @vincenzoieracitano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nicholas Angelich riposi in pace . E' andato via troppo presto.

  • @glenjames100
    @glenjames100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have never seen a more pleasant interaction between musicians...the cellist and the lead violinist were just amazing...WoW!

  • @antoineduchamp4931
    @antoineduchamp4931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What would we do without this wonderful Frankfurt orchestra? and then we are blessed with admirable and multi-talented soloists.... added to which we have a fabulous sound technology... all at a bad time for the world.... thank you again, so very much. Great appreciation from the UK.

  • @manuelmartel8377
    @manuelmartel8377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Beethoven incomparable, insuperable, grandioso.Gracias por este momento de paz

  • @1947gaetano
    @1947gaetano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Il secondo movimento di questo concerto e' pura Poesia idilliaca! L' ovazione del Publico e' tutta meritata !

  • @leopanthera8261
    @leopanthera8261 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watched this again, becoming my favorite version of the Tripelkonzert! - many others available, but the magic of this one is neverending... it is a musical monument that typifies in a small way... what CIVILIZATION is all about.

  • @ronaldbwoodall2628
    @ronaldbwoodall2628 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This is an exciting performance of the most "classical", least performed, but charming and exquisite, of Beethoven's concerti. It brings out all of its good-natured energy and many touches of genius. I appreciate this work more each time I hear it, especially in this sparkling rendition!

    • @craigcowing1107
      @craigcowing1107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed. This was a crisp, wonderfully done rendition. Thoroughly enjoyable. As an amateur cellist I enjoyed watching her play.

    • @takashimizui1136
      @takashimizui1136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@craigcowing1107 も8お9

  • @harshablindpianistabsolute4974
    @harshablindpianistabsolute4974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gil Shaham will be remembered well into the next century and beyond. Triple Concerto was fantastic. I saw him (Gil Shaham) in the other TH-cam presentations. The Internet and IPhone are amazing.

    • @ralphtuber
      @ralphtuber 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly, the cameras seem to purposedly not show him or deliberately hide him behind the other soloists

  • @georgedebruin19
    @georgedebruin19 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Probably one of the best recordings available. Definitely under the best three.

  • @hyseo1121
    @hyseo1121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This piece is like cello concerto from Beethoven. Cello part is main role in this piece.

  • @vivekbammi5133
    @vivekbammi5133 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They say a masterpiece is a work you keep going back to...but what do you say to a masterpiece that just gets better everytime you go back to it? That is the genius of Beethoven, every note enters into your cells.

  • @leopanthera8261
    @leopanthera8261 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the delicacy of this sprightful interpretation of this delightful Beethoven concerti - so many others to feast on, but this one is precious - can one "feast" on a piece of music - I guess they can. The orchestra and the absolutely fabulous soloists... and the wonderful Paavo Järvi gave ALL they had. What a feast it was... and is. How lucky to be able to view all of these superb musicians and conductor for this "feast" that can be heard over and over. Thank you, TH-cam!

  • @dietmarhartwig4174
    @dietmarhartwig4174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Himmlisch gut! Ich habe diese Aufnahme mindestens 50 mal gehört und freue mich auf die nächsten 50 mal. Das Werk ist göttlich und die Interpretation hinreißend. Danke den Musikern. Ich liebe es!

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Der Dialog zwischen den drei Solisten ist sehr intim und zugleich perfekt synchronisiert. Der seidige Ton der Solovioline, der milde Ton des Cellos und der brillante Ton des Klaviers sind wirklich wunderschön. Der Dirigent kontrolliert das ganze Orchester echt künstlerisch mit angemessenen Tempi und zurückgehaltener Dynamik. Einfach wunderbar!

    • @daltonjameson1506
      @daltonjameson1506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Instablaster

    • @wagnerfan5453
      @wagnerfan5453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daltonjameson1506 Heißt das soviel wie 'unerträglicher Schwätzer'?

    • @user-ey5dl7qd3j
      @user-ey5dl7qd3j ปีที่แล้ว

      베토벤의 또다른 음악을 발견 했습니다 참 줗습니딘

  • @Dionisyus11
    @Dionisyus11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Einmalig, exzellentes Konzert,!
    Alles stimmt, die Solisten jeder ein Meister in ihren Instrumenten, das HR Symphonie Orchester und der Direktor, Bravo Bravo!!
    Für mich, die beste Version des Beethovens Trippel Konzert überhaupt!

  • @harshablindpianistabsolute4974
    @harshablindpianistabsolute4974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gil Shaham is the most exciting performer. I have met him several times and seen him 10-12 times. He is more gracious, friendly and nice as anyone I have ever met. I met him when he was 24 and now he is in his 40s. It has been a great 20 years of following him. That is what a truly extraordinary artist can do to someone like me and many others. I hope he lives a very, very long time.

    • @billace90
      @billace90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. Certainly one of the best contemporary soloists.
      A master in his own right.

  • @barbarosdemirtas278
    @barbarosdemirtas278 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    l'une des meilleures performances de cette oeuvre sublime...Bravissimo a tutti!!

  • @alvarito45
    @alvarito45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My most admired orchestra HR FRANKFURT Sinfonie sur the baton of Maestro Järvi and with three fabulous soloist have given us a super performance of this superb Beethovenian concerto. Thank you.
    Special mention to the girl with long blonde hair turning the score pages for the pianist.

  • @robynsalain
    @robynsalain 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    des solistes fabuleux,un orchestre de merveille,un chef grandiose,admiration profonde

  • @sunny-vg6ec
    @sunny-vg6ec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great performance from everyone! Super cellist!

  • @paulheffron4836
    @paulheffron4836 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In some ways I felt like I was hearing this piece for the very first time because of the excellent performers who all played with such passion and commitment. Bravo!!!

  • @altareggo
    @altareggo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is AWESOME!!! Love the violinist especially: such a warm, delightful tone and wonderful expressiveness. THANKS for posting this!!!

  • @elizabethmaedammann5283
    @elizabethmaedammann5283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Magnificent demonstration of excellence, brilliance, superb technical mastery and undisputed collective musicality perfectly blended into a performance of absolute perfection. Bravissimo.

  • @jakobgrabenhorst1455
    @jakobgrabenhorst1455 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    es wäre noch viel schöner anzusehen, wenn die Cellistin und der Geiger so säßen, dass sie sich gegenseitig sehen können und dann noch mehr miteinander interagieren würden. Trotzdem eine wunderbares Stück und eine tolle Interpretation!!!

  • @speedyhandyman6566
    @speedyhandyman6566 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The violinist played with soul.

  • @Apalexpe
    @Apalexpe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love Gastinel! Beautiful portamenti and phrasing

  • @bernhardjeide3278
    @bernhardjeide3278 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eine wunderbar „entspannte“ Darbietung, bei der die von den Musikern und dem Dirigenten offensichtlich empfundene Freude am Musizieren mich gefangen nimmt, eimmal ganz abgesehen von der sowieso bekannten fachlichen Qualität der Akteure. Der lange und begeisterte Applaus erscheint mir sehr gerechtfertigt.

    • @MrMoguer
      @MrMoguer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bei Frau Gastinel ist die Freude leider nicht immer so gut sichtbar ...

  • @Corchuelo1
    @Corchuelo1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Muy buena interpretación de los tres. Gracias por tener esta oportunidad de ver y escuchar esta obra clásica de Beethoven.

  • @lessismore4470
    @lessismore4470 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first movement: not a second of rest, constant illumination. What a composition...

  • @gonzalovaldivia3835
    @gonzalovaldivia3835 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    excelente. gracias al director, solistas y orquesta por esta maravillosa interpretación.

  • @alainrobynsds5735
    @alainrobynsds5735 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    une grande réussite la connexion de la musique de chambre et de la musique symphonique,admiration

  • @mariarosariodiazvalderas4490
    @mariarosariodiazvalderas4490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Agradezco la posibilidad de escuchar este maravilloso concierto del gran imperecedero Maestro

  • @philliphamilton3591
    @philliphamilton3591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such a beautifully, expressive rendition as it gently glides along. Wonderful.

  • @marcschndr
    @marcschndr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Je trouve Gil Shaham tellement humain et exceptionnellement musical!

  • @mr-wx3lv
    @mr-wx3lv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, that opening statement contains a kind of advanced, Beethovenian Manheim crescendo..
    And possibly his best final concerto movement..

  • @foveauxbear
    @foveauxbear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A truly marvellous, neglected work. Any city with a fine piano trio should program it.

  • @skrutten_
    @skrutten_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    1:08 - I. Allegro
    19:16 - II. Largo-attacca
    23:26 - III. Rondo alla Polacca

  • @jenskoning4304
    @jenskoning4304 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This recording is amazing! The audio from the individual trio members is so crisp and detailed.

    • @nickyork8901
      @nickyork8901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the photography is amazingly clear too. It's as good as being there, if not better.

  • @janosmorel
    @janosmorel 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tres solistas interpretes maravillosos, a la altura de esta genial e insuperable obra cuyo medio enviado por Dios como transmisor simplemente fue y será eternamente ese genial hombre llamado Beethoven. Bravo !!, y también a la orquesta y su director.

    • @ericapfliger670
      @ericapfliger670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Este genio músical es un verdadero benefactor de la humanidad!

  • @christinedaffe7649
    @christinedaffe7649 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Grande, grande oeuvre... et mon violoniste préféré!

  • @gonzalotobellamatas7388
    @gonzalotobellamatas7388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Estupendo concierto.Estupendos los tres solistas y la orquesta,que me gusta mucho.

  • @user-vb4vt2je7j
    @user-vb4vt2je7j 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    wonderful performance. wonderful audience.

  • @knuthartmann4846
    @knuthartmann4846 ปีที่แล้ว

    Das ist toll, dass Sie diese Konzert-Aufzeichnung ins Netz gestellt haben. Dem im Vergleich zu Beethovens Klavierkonzerten oder seinem Violinkonzert nicht so tiefem Tripelkonzert geben die drei Solisten, das Orchester und der Dirigent eine ungeahnte Tiefe durch Ausloten der Dynamik, phantastischen Spannungsbögen sowie lustvoller Gestaltung in vielen kleinen Details. Eine wundervolle Mischung aus tiefem Ernst, grosser Freude am Musizieren sowie einer echten Liebe zum Werk und zu den eigenen Instrumenten.

  • @ferarista1
    @ferarista1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    excelente interpretación, sensacional!! Muy buenos solistas. Dirección impecable, de una buena orquesta. Larga y merecida ovacion. Felicitaciones a todos ellos. Gracias por compartir el video. Sin duda me gusto la obra.

  • @alainrobynsds5735
    @alainrobynsds5735 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    de très loin la plus belle exécution de ce triple concerto,triple bravo !

  • @ufukgoksu9851
    @ufukgoksu9851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So schön...danke...Liebe Grüße aus Istanbul

  • @bobbalouie9941
    @bobbalouie9941 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everything Mr. Jarvi does is the best!

  • @abelsincain
    @abelsincain 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Esta pieza es para disfrutarse mucho más que para analizarse. El rondó es la gloria para el oído.

  • @diksajona
    @diksajona 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is as Beethoven as it can get. Better version than another I came across earlier here at youtube.

  • @sun6034
    @sun6034 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It sounds beautiful !!!

  • @ericschmikle2853
    @ericschmikle2853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely stuningly divine and beautiful. Excallent recording and artists superb

  • @pablogabrielpizarro8046
    @pablogabrielpizarro8046 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRAVO!!! GRACIAS POR ESTA MAGNIFICA VERSION!!!!

  • @susanahatam5268
    @susanahatam5268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent performance!!

  • @jamsheddelvadavala1972
    @jamsheddelvadavala1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An exceptional performance of this masterpiece! Beethoven, the supreme genius! One of his greatest compositions! The orchestra under maestro Jaarvi, couples with superb virtuosity of soloists to carve out this marvelous performance!
    Never heard better! The cellist really excels!
    Thanks for post!
    Jamshed Delvadavala from Mumbai.

  • @udi1966
    @udi1966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ein musikalisches Spektakel! Brillante Interpretation.

  • @ursjoaquin
    @ursjoaquin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Espectacular, Wunderbar, spectaculous

  • @gonzalotobellamatas7388
    @gonzalotobellamatas7388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Extraordinario.Buenísimo.Estupendo.

  • @user-bi6fg9iy6o
    @user-bi6fg9iy6o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent performance !!!!!!!!

  • @johnpotter8039
    @johnpotter8039 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember buying the DGG LP around 1965. It was my first DGG recording and it cost around $6.00, series bread in those days. I have long-since moved on from vinyl, but I always remember the casual photograph of the musicians, all of them in open collars and smoking.

  • @SiChange
    @SiChange 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Elegant, sincere music making

  • @angelicanogueirapoesias2327
    @angelicanogueirapoesias2327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BRAVÍSSIMO 📯🎹🎺🎷🎶👏👏👏👏👏

  • @1947gaetano
    @1947gaetano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Esecuzione all'altezza del Compositore, il perfezionista Beethoven ne sarebbe soddisfatto.Eccellenti i Professori solisti e gli Orchestrali sono di massimo livello

  • @donna30044
    @donna30044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marvelous!

  • @Prometeur
    @Prometeur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:12 The buildup and return of the main theme in a different key here is just glorious. So satisfying!

  • @tongwu1850
    @tongwu1850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exquisite!

  • @stephenmessick865
    @stephenmessick865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Though I still prefer the Argerich and Capuchon brothers version, this one was all one could ask for. And anytime I see Jarvi on the podium I know I'm in for a good time. Same with the FRSO--my favorite orchestra.

  • @antoonsoete6020
    @antoonsoete6020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prachtige muziek.

  • @ferdinangenius
    @ferdinangenius 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the most charming music -for me- by Bee. Many, not all, of the rest of his music tends to be -for me again- somewhat too romantically poised and even egotistical at times. This is just pure music.

  • @zojapetkovamarkovic8963
    @zojapetkovamarkovic8963 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    prekrasna interpretacija!

  • @peteradomaitis639
    @peteradomaitis639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wunderbar, für mich die völlige Entspannung.
    Schön wäre ein Schnitt gewesen, der das Stimmen der Instrumente nach dem 1. Satz entfernt hätte.
    Im Konzert sitzend stört es mich nicht aber hier schon.
    Das Orchester und die Solisten sind aber von großer Qualität.

  • @robynsalain
    @robynsalain 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    une splendeur d'entre les splendeurs

  • @jaimechaparro4689
    @jaimechaparro4689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Espectacular presentación,

  • @nickyork8901
    @nickyork8901 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gil Shaham's sound in this performance is particularly delightful, as is the cellist. The piano is great, but in my view is slightly over loud in the balance of the recording. Some interesting shots in the filming, I hope the musicians were warned in advance to wash behind their ears. Gil Shaham's enjoyment of the playing by the other performers, such as the cello opening in the second movement, is really nice.

  • @teodorotorresgoldaraz3360
    @teodorotorresgoldaraz3360 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ¡ CELESTIAL ! GRACIAS

  • @martinmetz5949
    @martinmetz5949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Danke, dass es Euch alle gibt: Musiker, Dirigent, Techniker, hr-Sinfonieorchester. Ihr verschönert das Leben anderer.

  • @alfonsomartin6686
    @alfonsomartin6686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Una interpretación antológica por los solistas y la orquesta

  • @ItsManana
    @ItsManana 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    probably my favorite part of this performance is how often the flutist looks at Gil

  • @danielscheinhaus5210
    @danielscheinhaus5210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a wonderful recording marred only by the foolish comments of some of the listeners; one who complained about Anne's playing because she was a woman, another annoyed by Gil's E string that was too shrill for his ears. The fault, dear Brutus, was in too much treble inserted by the Sound Engineer. Note that for a moment or two the video wasn't sharp enough because the automatic lens adjustment didn't work properly. It's a good thing that there's no automatic placement of fingers on fingerboards. The musicians have to do that themselves. The result was there was no one out of tune.

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This genius fiddler,s performance makes me feel the pathetic of life and the suffering , sadness , and joy when people live .
    The mind of this genius fiddler might have reached the abyss of man,s soul . 🍎
    From effulgent Tokyo in profound Japan .
    Which national are you watching this video ?

  • @briancarpenter3040
    @briancarpenter3040 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why I tingle? ✨

  • @marie_705
    @marie_705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazing! I found a bit sad that the violinist was completely hidden by Anne, they couldn't make eye contact...

    • @gayludington682
      @gayludington682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bad camera angles and poor television direction! This wonderful performance deserved better visual coverage than was given here.

    • @marie_705
      @marie_705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gayludington682 Ah yes, I totally agree!

  • @jairochaves8916
    @jairochaves8916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gastinel!!!! What a Fine Wine!!!!!

  • @m31ats5026ukv49n
    @m31ats5026ukv49n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    素晴らしいです

  • @miguelrivas9745
    @miguelrivas9745 ปีที่แล้ว

    Si bien el Cello es clave en este trio, es muy significativa la interpretación del violinista quien le da una sonoridad hermosa y delicada al trío, tal vez muy golpeado por el pianista. Muy bueno, muy integrado entre solistas y orquesta aunque, a veces, demasiado rudo por el píano. Grande el violín.

  • @_rosevery
    @_rosevery 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    2nd Movement: 19:12
    3rd Movement: 23:26

  • @jukeboxtime377
    @jukeboxtime377 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    what a beautifull masterpease

  • @CellofunEU
    @CellofunEU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful playing but strange camera-work - just when you want to be watching a beautiful solo the camera goes off into the clouds.

  • @muslit
    @muslit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's also nice to hear the sustaining pedal on the last chords. I didn't hear it.

  • @antoninopirrone2541
    @antoninopirrone2541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤️💕💕💕

  • @user-vi5jj2pg7w
    @user-vi5jj2pg7w ปีที่แล้ว

    Как приятно; послушаешь такое чудо музыку, и жить хочется!

  • @TheAtheist22
    @TheAtheist22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This how Beethoven meant it to be interpreted as.

  • @jasonhamilton4871
    @jasonhamilton4871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amazing. but tip to producers: when the cellist has one of the best solos in the repertoire, maybe focus on her! ugh second movement opening was a mess of focus.

  • @theimperiale6231
    @theimperiale6231 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    10:48 piano concerto no 3

  • @baudy1337
    @baudy1337 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beethoven was more than human

  • @Pavoni1756
    @Pavoni1756 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cello. Testore??