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This is pretty much the scene where krell realized rex was going to be a problem and started to take a less direct and more cunning approach to his plans.
@@eliteofthe9136 Cody and Obi Wan would never purposely put their troops in harms way and they are more stringent then Rex and Anakin and the 4 work together so often throughout the course of the war imagine if Anakin and Mundi worked together Rex and Bacara would be at odds with command structure or Vos and Anakin Rex and Faie would really be at each other's throats
@@shaansingh7629 I don't know about the killing, but when Krell would have been put in Republican jails, I am pretty sure Anakin would have tried to "interrogate" him before he's brought to the courts. Anakin's interrogations, as anyone can know is severely painful for the one on the receiving end.
Really, as mentioned below: "Space Nam" is and by far the second best Arc in the series. I hate watching this but love the tenacity of the clones and the bravery of Captain Rex.
@@AnakinJared not really but that he basically make him choke and then proceed to blast him 4 times in the face after point blank range sure is brutal. A single shot would have been more of a mercy.
Crazy how the Umbarans would have not too long ago have been fighting on the side of the Republic. Also, never send troops on an unsecured open road that is prone to enemy ambush and always use air support, something that tends to be underused despite the Republic having massive naval fleets orbiting overhead.
My friend, you apparently don’t know something. The fact that Krell sent forward a vanguard detachment, on the contrary, is an excellent idea, as he did not set up all the other forces in an ambush. Walking through the jungle where there is constant fog is also not safe and even more dangerous than walking on the road. Rex did the most terrible thing a vanguard could do, surrendered his position and retreated straight to the main forces, seeing their exact positions and forcing Krell to throw people into the battle on the march.
@@chopper3940 did you actually watch the episode? Krell is literally trying to get them all killed he is a traitor. His insistance of a frontal assault is because he is trying to get them all slaughtered lmao. There is a reason his battalion has one of the if not the biggest casualty rates.
@@ozansimsek1660 Yes, I've watched this episode more than once, and I've also completely dismantled this arch. The only time Crell actually tried to kill the clones was when the clones themselves attacked him. At the first moment, as I already wrote, Rex broke the order and did not complete the tasks that the vanguard was supposed to perform, retreating himself, personally putting the unit at risk of accurate enemy strikes. When fighting in the gorge, Krell made the most of his resources, not only trying to teach Rex a lesson, but also collecting information from the battle. At another point, 3 clones were hijacked by Umbaryan stormtroopers and personally flew away from the base, which could also set up the entire unit. Later, when information about a droid subversive group came in, Krell sent troops to find the saboteurs, and the only problem with the clones was that they were not convinced who opened friendly fire to them through their own fault. And later, with no significant evidence at all, they staged a mutiny, where Krell could simply say that he didn't do it, and maybe it was poor coordination of forces, and then Rex and the clones involved in the rebellion would be tried in court. Yes, Krell has the worst losses among the Jedi, but by contrast, he became the Republic's most successful general without losing a single operation.
@@chopper3940 ...are you mentally ill? Krell literally admits to everything when he is captured. Also "broke the order" motherfucker he and his men were sent into a direct ambush from almost all sides. Of course he is going to save as many as he can by retreating. Never thought I'd see a Pong Krell fanboy in my life but here we are I guess.
When you think about it the Umbarans should have won. Reasons ? 1. Theres mines so Clones dont know where to walk 2. The Umbarans Ambushed them 3. An UmbaranvArtillery Position that the Clones Cant even see 4.The Clones are surrounded with no Cover
@@zombieslayer60 Yeah I mean it basically a death trap. The only worst for them that if the Umbaran have another division or more platoon stand between them and their retreat back to the line. If they do that the clones are dead. I know Krell won't send anyone to save them from a encirclement.
I think the answer is shear numbers. The Clones have the numbers to spare, whereas the Umbara have few troops and have to be divisive in their tactics, mainly relying on gorilla tactics.
@@akorn9943 if so endor not even close how in the nose(if not too much)compare to unbaria arc where in this show it's flat out Vietnam reminds of bomber scene of ep.8 more hysterically racist then even anything from fucking Michael Bay how is that possible😆
I can't believe this came out in late 2011. I was 10 watching this shit going CRAZY every single superfan friday. Me and my best friend would talk about it after school. Absolutely one of the best arcs along with the Kamino, Geonosis, and The Citadel
Fan fact: in the entire Grand army of the Republic almost every jedi who commanded there clone troopers units in the way they leads this units is the same as Pong Krell. Only small number of Jedi actually care about clones (like anakin, obi-wan, aayla secura, ima gun day etc.)
The fact that they aren’t fight against Droids but an actually living and thinking Military that can put up a better fight is the best thing the creators and directors could have ever done
Ironic how Clones are genetically similar with the same look and voice, yet they all have such interesting personalities and traits and as a viewer felt emotionally intrigued and attached to each one of them to the point of me feeling a bit sad whenever one of them died, compared to Stormtroopers that were children enlisted from Imperial-controlled systems/planets that are different, but I never felt anything whenever one of them died, that's how good the voice actor(Bradley Dee Baker) is to manage to pull this off!!!
From a strategical POV it does not make any sense why the Umbarans waited with their ambush, the mines going off would be a perfect kickstart because of the chaos, the clone troopers would probably panic and scatter, triggering more mines and making them even more vulnerable because of the lack of order and clarity in the situation
@patheticbread6861 It's just the area that can be covered with automatic fire. You have to be precised with semi firing weapons, whereas automatic weapons only need the general direction and a big enough magazine.
@@peacespreader1312 It is far worse than Vietnam because unlike Vietnam the enemy is actually worth a fuck. The NVA and Vietcong where completely out matched by the US but the Umbarans are not outmatched at all by Republic technology or the Clones.
Kind of creepy it looks by how dark it is going along road to never knowing when more Umbarans attack or not. Those mines look like pieces of the road. I dislike that Krell doesn't care how vulnerable they were to all being killed on the road.
If you’re in the kill zone you gotta get out of there then engage the targets because this is where they aimed everything ahead of time at. Pong Krell was so badass which we saw more of him and his turn to the dark side
When I first see General Pong Krell taking over Anakin command therefore I can easily tell that Krell is on the dark side. This is because due to the way he acts, behaves and of course talks to all of those clones was really disrespectful! 1:47. Now this is one of the best battles and moments of 501st Legion especially in Umbara! When I first watched all episodes of ‘Battle of Umbara’ therefore my levels of nostalgia went really high which I can fully remembered watching ‘The Clone Wars’ on ABC3 at 7:10PM every Thursday in Australia! 👍👍👍
If detecting mines is that easy, why weren't they doing that from the start?? These are supposed to be grizzled veterans, and they were literally talking about traps earlier. Unnecessary casualties
They didn't know which trap remember and their order was to advance as quickly as possible. Why would they stop for scanning mines. Krell will be furious.
Respectfully, this scene cheesed me as a 13 ye old. If u already had a mine detection device, why didn’t I use it from the start instead of waiting to maybe be known up first. Especially if y’all was just strolling down with no guns fired
Probably didn’t have it at the time being, and getting huge walkers might either take longer than the time they need, or getting sniped by the enemy being transported in flight (and the Umabra people had some powerful weaponry). Also since Krell was around, he wouldn’t allow cause he hates the clones.
The waiting umbars simply did not allow large ground vehicles to move quickly. The Republic's technology is simply not prepared for this, unlike the Umbarian technology, which is prepared for such terrain. Only AT-RT light reconnaissance walkers were effective in such terrain; for this purpose, a bunch of ARF units were pulled into Umbara.
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This is pretty much the scene where krell realized rex was going to be a problem and started to take a less direct and more cunning approach to his plans.
Even Anakin wasn't this Wreckless he would of done a stealthier approach and minimize Clone Casaulties
@@haydenfowle7576 indeed. Captain sobel type.
@@eliteofthe9136 Cody and Obi Wan would never purposely put their troops in harms way and they are more stringent then Rex and Anakin and the 4 work together so often throughout the course of the war imagine if Anakin and Mundi worked together Rex and Bacara would be at odds with command structure or Vos and Anakin Rex and Faie would really be at each other's throats
@@haydenfowle7576 well let's not forget plo koon. The wolf pack loved him because he cared about his men.
@@eliteofthe9136 Rex and Wolffe also get along if Anakin and Plo worked together
I can’t imagine how… displeased Anakin was when he learned about Krell throwing away the lives of HIS men
If Dogma didn't kill him, Anakin would have.
Anakin would absolutely annihilate him had he knew of what's happening there 😂
@@shaansingh7629 I don't know about the killing, but when Krell would have been put in Republican jails, I am pretty sure Anakin would have tried to "interrogate" him before he's brought to the courts. Anakin's interrogations, as anyone can know is severely painful for the one on the receiving end.
Anakin would have force choked him or beat him to a pulp.
@@nightelf2487just ask Poggle. He would know.
The single best arc next to the final for me. Perfect allusion to ‘Nam and all kinds of guerrilla warfare.
I always thought this arc was like the republic’s version of Vietnam as a kid
The most unrealistic part is that during the battle none of the mines were triggered
lol good point
I always wondered were the mines went
It's possible that the enemy could've automatically shut down the mines in case one of their men got caught on one of them.
@@dragonfire4527 only reasonable excuse
I saw a few go off during the battle. There were explosions that didn't have the rushing sound beforehand like the Umbaran shells did.
Really, as mentioned below: "Space Nam" is and by far the second best Arc in the series. I hate watching this but love the tenacity of the clones and the bravery of Captain Rex.
Its tied for the most heartbreaking moment of the clone wars
fives killing the umbarab was cold
1:35
I know right?
I mean, what's he suppose to do? Tuck in the Umbaran and read him a bedtime story?
@@AnakinJared not really but that he basically make him choke and then proceed to blast him 4 times in the face after point blank range sure is brutal. A single shot would have been more of a mercy.
@@MNM-lq9teThe umbarans fought with as much if not more fierceness and brutality. They deserved all of it.
@@JoeHarryMama ok
I liked how the whole Umbara arc looked like a war movie!
I dislike how Disney hasn’t AI upscaled all of star wars and released it on 8K blu-ray, so people don’t have to use disney plus.
@@ncard00 But thats literally their goal. Holding a Monopoly on entertainment. Physical copies damage their profits
fun fact blue blaster bolts are best against droids while red for organics so it would've been cool to see the clones using the red bolts
Never heard that lore before. Care to elaborate? Also in that case what does green mean?
@@GTron13 green is the most powerful but expensive thats why its only on starfighters
@@bake4795so are the Umbarans using heavier weapons? Since their blaster bolts are green?
apparently@@razor6827
@@razor6827 yeah
Crazy how the Umbarans would have not too long ago have been fighting on the side of the Republic. Also, never send troops on an unsecured open road that is prone to enemy ambush and always use air support, something that tends to be underused despite the Republic having massive naval fleets orbiting overhead.
My friend, you apparently don’t know something.
The fact that Krell sent forward a vanguard detachment, on the contrary, is an excellent idea, as he did not set up all the other forces in an ambush. Walking through the jungle where there is constant fog is also not safe and even more dangerous than walking on the road.
Rex did the most terrible thing a vanguard could do, surrendered his position and retreated straight to the main forces, seeing their exact positions and forcing Krell to throw people into the battle on the march.
@@chopper3940 But the Republic had their own probe droids they could have used as scouts. I'm not sure why we don't see them being implemented often.
@@chopper3940 did you actually watch the episode? Krell is literally trying to get them all killed he is a traitor. His insistance of a frontal assault is because he is trying to get them all slaughtered lmao. There is a reason his battalion has one of the if not the biggest casualty rates.
@@ozansimsek1660 Yes, I've watched this episode more than once, and I've also completely dismantled this arch.
The only time Crell actually tried to kill the clones was when the clones themselves attacked him. At the first moment, as I already wrote, Rex broke the order and did not complete the tasks that the vanguard was supposed to perform, retreating himself, personally putting the unit at risk of accurate enemy strikes. When fighting in the gorge, Krell made the most of his resources, not only trying to teach Rex a lesson, but also collecting information from the battle. At another point, 3 clones were hijacked by Umbaryan stormtroopers and personally flew away from the base, which could also set up the entire unit. Later, when information about a droid subversive group came in, Krell sent troops to find the saboteurs, and the only problem with the clones was that they were not convinced who opened friendly fire to them through their own fault. And later, with no significant evidence at all, they staged a mutiny, where Krell could simply say that he didn't do it, and maybe it was poor coordination of forces, and then Rex and the clones involved in the rebellion would be tried in court.
Yes, Krell has the worst losses among the Jedi, but by contrast, he became the Republic's most successful general without losing a single operation.
@@chopper3940 ...are you mentally ill? Krell literally admits to everything when he is captured. Also "broke the order" motherfucker he and his men were sent into a direct ambush from almost all sides. Of course he is going to save as many as he can by retreating. Never thought I'd see a Pong Krell fanboy in my life but here we are I guess.
Malevolen Creek
never forget our fallen brothers at the creek
Malevelon Creek? More like Malevolent Creek.
When you think about it the Umbarans should have won. Reasons ?
1. Theres mines so Clones dont know where to walk
2. The Umbarans Ambushed them
3. An UmbaranvArtillery Position that the Clones Cant even see
4.The Clones are surrounded with no Cover
5. General Krell was sabotaging them as well
6. Advanced Weapons
7. Dangerous Wildlife
@@Skyline_r3496 exactly though i didnt even think about that but you are right
@@zombieslayer60 Yeah I mean it basically a death trap.
The only worst for them that if the Umbaran have another division or more platoon stand between them and their retreat back to the line.
If they do that the clones are dead. I know Krell won't send anyone to save them from a encirclement.
I think the answer is shear numbers. The Clones have the numbers to spare, whereas the Umbara have few troops and have to be divisive in their tactics, mainly relying on gorilla tactics.
imagine krell said CT-7567 do you have a malfunction in you’re inhibitor chip 😭
Given his hate for clones and the fact that he foresaw the rise of the Empire, it wouldn't surprise me if he knew about the chips and kept it quiet
1:34 *BRUTAL !*
that's why he's the GOAT!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@sleepyboi5804THE GOATTT
0:18
RIP
Oz
and
Ringo
1:24 Hardcase: MAKE ‘EM EAT HEAT!
“UH OH I THINK HARDCASE ‘EM MAD”
Pong Krell is such a professional clonophobe he remembers their serial numbers.
I think hardcase and wrecker would have gotten along quite well together
1:15
1:30
Same situation, same energies.
And I love it.
One gave out a quick death, the other wants them to suffer before putting them out of their misery
Battle of Umbara: One of the kost few battles which was unjustified by the Republic.
Same can be said for Jabiim.
Gotta rock with Rex and the gang man. Order 66 was very unfortunate. Fives a legend.
I always umbara is the space version of Vietnam. But at least our Vietnam had sunlight
and people call endor space vietnam
Yup lol
I think that was George Lucas lol
@@akorn9943 if so endor not even close how in the nose(if not too much)compare to unbaria arc where in this show it's flat out Vietnam reminds of bomber scene of ep.8 more hysterically racist then even anything from fucking Michael Bay how is that possible😆
Hardcase is my favorite. He embraced the whole “im dead anyway so might as well channel my fear into rage” thing
I can't believe this came out in late 2011. I was 10 watching this shit going CRAZY every single superfan friday. Me and my best friend would talk about it after school. Absolutely one of the best arcs along with the Kamino, Geonosis, and The Citadel
1:44/1:45 I never noticed that Medic treating the AT-RT Driver
2:48 HAHAHA! Where ya goin'?! *GET BACK HERE!!* 💥💥💥
Fan fact: in the entire Grand army of the Republic almost every jedi who commanded there clone troopers units in the way they leads this units is the same as Pong Krell. Only small number of Jedi actually care about clones (like anakin, obi-wan, aayla secura, ima gun day etc.)
I love this story ark it was all about the clones
Honestly, my most watched ark out of all the show, I love it so much.
3:02-3:07 his name is Rex and he’s a man not some droid
The fact that they aren’t fight against Droids but an actually living and thinking Military that can put up a better fight is the best thing the creators and directors could have ever done
Ironic how Clones are genetically similar with the same look and voice, yet they all have such interesting personalities and traits and as a viewer felt emotionally intrigued and attached to each one of them to the point of me feeling a bit sad whenever one of them died, compared to Stormtroopers that were children enlisted from Imperial-controlled systems/planets that are different, but I never felt anything whenever one of them died, that's how good the voice actor(Bradley Dee Baker) is to manage to pull this off!!!
From a strategical POV it does not make any sense why the Umbarans waited with their ambush, the mines going off would be a perfect kickstart because of the chaos, the clone troopers would probably panic and scatter, triggering more mines and making them even more vulnerable because of the lack of order and clarity in the situation
Either shows they are reckless
Pong Krell is like Republic equivalent of Grievious.
Feels likes space Vietnam
Look this scene is cool but how the FUCK did they not all die at the beginning, they were completely surrounded and had no cover.
plot armor, its simple
They had single firing weapons not automatic fire
@@unkon129Or the fact they single shot weapons not automatic firingn
@@bullbuster944 So did the clones, I imagine full vs. semi-automatic wouldn't be that big of a deal a laser gun anyways.
@patheticbread6861 It's just the area that can be covered with automatic fire. You have to be precised with semi firing weapons, whereas automatic weapons only need the general direction and a big enough magazine.
I can only imagine what would happen if anakin witnessed what krell did
YOO, I just realized that this voice actor is LEE from the walking dead video game series
Honestly the Umbarans fought better and smarter than the Republic even before Krell started fucking things up.
It’s the Vietnam situation. There are invaders that use attacking training against mainly civilians that defend their home land.
@@peacespreader1312 It is far worse than Vietnam because unlike Vietnam the enemy is actually worth a fuck.
The NVA and Vietcong where completely out matched by the US but the Umbarans are not outmatched at all by Republic technology or the Clones.
Its war.
War never changes
0:20-0:23 poor ox rango
Kind of creepy it looks by how dark it is going along road to never knowing when more Umbarans attack or not. Those mines look like pieces of the road. I dislike that Krell doesn't care how vulnerable they were to all being killed on the road.
Seeing this for the first time Umarans had some cool as tech and I do like how their blasters look
If you’re in the kill zone you gotta get out of there then engage the targets because this is where they aimed everything ahead of time at. Pong Krell was so badass which we saw more of him and his turn to the dark side
When I first see General Pong Krell taking over Anakin command therefore I can easily tell that Krell is on the dark side. This is because due to the way he acts, behaves and of course talks to all of those clones was really disrespectful!
1:47. Now this is one of the best battles and moments of 501st Legion especially in Umbara!
When I first watched all episodes of ‘Battle of Umbara’ therefore my levels of nostalgia went really high which I can fully remembered watching ‘The Clone Wars’ on ABC3 at 7:10PM every Thursday in Australia!
👍👍👍
This show was so GOATED man
What if kenobi took temporary command but Rex was the ‘on site’ commander,
If Anakin rejoins back to those squads again, he would proceed to the route of the citadel.
Space nam!
Seeing this in live action would’ve been rad!!!
0:55, 1:10, 1:18, 1:24, 1:38, 1:43, 2:04, 2:33, 2:49
When the tree start speaking Umbaran
Did anyone else notice captain rex was using one the umbarans as a meat shield you have to slow it down to see it 1:49
Was Jesse one step away from the mine Fives had literally just pointed out at 0:55?
This is not Clone Wars, this is Clown Wars!
1:34-1:39 badass
God damn space Vietnam
1:30 if there is something close to mma in the Star Wars universe Rex should go out for that
Fives, but yes
Krell… stop it… get some help…
It was a warzone and krell says feeble minded clones
Clone Troopers fan! Commander doom reporting for duty!
It’s like the Vietnam war in Star wars
Umbrams.... Sly Moores species .... if they did join the Separatists full time 😮
Umbara was their Vietnam.
Reminds me of klendathu
Who is the clone on the AT-RT he was laying down heat
All krell fault falling them into a trap
If detecting mines is that easy, why weren't they doing that from the start?? These are supposed to be grizzled veterans, and they were literally talking about traps earlier. Unnecessary casualties
They didn't know which trap remember and their order was to advance as quickly as possible. Why would they stop for scanning mines. Krell will be furious.
And a mine sweeper may be ARC Specialized equipment. Probably why Rex asked Fives if he could locate them.
USA in Vietnam from 1964-1973, The Soviet Union in Afghanistan from 1979-1989, and Russia in Ukraine in 2022 be like
we all came for 1:34
1:24 2:34
#TeamCloneTroopers🤍✊
I’m I the only one that was actually rooting for the Umbaraians?
Respectfully, this scene cheesed me as a 13 ye old. If u already had a mine detection device, why didn’t I use it from the start instead of waiting to maybe be known up first. Especially if y’all was just strolling down with no guns fired
Why does every dude with a gun run toward the enemy
3:02
Why didn't the clone use ATTE's or other heavy weaponry?
Probably didn’t have it at the time being, and getting huge walkers might either take longer than the time they need, or getting sniped by the enemy being transported in flight (and the Umabra people had some powerful weaponry). Also since Krell was around, he wouldn’t allow cause he hates the clones.
The waiting umbars simply did not allow large ground vehicles to move quickly. The Republic's technology is simply not prepared for this, unlike the Umbarian technology, which is prepared for such terrain. Only AT-RT light reconnaissance walkers were effective in such terrain; for this purpose, a bunch of ARF units were pulled into Umbara.
It's like sending a tank Platoon in a dense jungle
XCOTHIiLl 😢😢😢😢
Ist in Order 66?
No this is way before order 66 which is at end of the war if that helps answer your question .
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