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Shimano Tekota Basic reel service including drag maintenance
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มี.ค. 2018
- This video shows how to take apart, clean, lube and maintain the Shimano Tekota reel. It includes the toothpick trick used to seat the annoying "rocket" click spring on the star drag assembly.
I have been servicing reels for over 20 years and am sharing my experience here. If you enjoy the video, please "like" it. If you would like to see more, please subscribe. Comments? Questions? I reply to all. Thank you for viewing - Dennis
Dennis, your videos are a HUGE help cleaning my reels. Thank you !!
A tip for you for the spring and click pin for the Shimano Tekota 500 reel that you hate.
Find a really thin and small straight screw driver. Usually in eye glasses repair kits.
That screw driver will fit inside the hole in the shaft where the spring sits.
Screw the star drag onto the shaft enough to get the threads started.
Place the spring and click pin into the hole in the shaft.
Slide the screw driver into the hole, it will fit into the groove on the click pin.
I use a small pair of needle nose pliers to compress the pin and spring.
Hold the pin down with the screw driver. Finish screwing on the star drag and BAM.....Jeds a millionaire...that easy. Pull the screw driver out and finish up.
It’s really easy. No stress.
Hope this helps you.
Thanks again for the great videos !
Thanks John. Another alternative that I have been using lately is to use the last shim washer that goes under the star adjuster to wedge the assembly in place. When you tighten the star adjuster down, it pushes the washer off and sets the assembly correctly.
Thanks for watching
Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle yes i tried that the first time, that’s how i lost the pin. But it does work. Thanks again for the videos !
Just got back from a four day ocean trip to Shelter Cove, CA. Fishing wasn’t great but the rebuilt reels worked awesome. This is a excellent video for the drag side. Don’t be afraid to remove the other side and work on it.
Glad to hear and thanks for the comment. No fear, just limited in time to my camera card at about 20 minutes. I wanted to make sure I got the drag side done. Thank you - Dennis
I took my reel apart and that damn little part seemed to appear from nowhere. Thanks to you, I now know where it goes. Getting it back in place is going to be a challenge.
Thanks for the note - Glad the video helped. Best wishes on the completion of the maintenance - Dennis
Dennis ---- Your video on shimano tekota 500 on setting the click pin on the drag was very helpful .I am just starting to do repair for friends. THANK YOU
Glad it helped! Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
Thank you. I own four of these reels and now know that I will never try to take them apart to clean and lube. I will send it it for service.
These are not the easiest to repair, but like all, the little tricks help. I just learned that you can load that "rocket" spring by wedging the last washer over it an then tightening down the star adjuster. - Best wishes - Dennis
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Thank you for your video. Im fishing charter on Lake Ontario, use 3 tekota 700 reels for busy wire rods. Too bad they are discontinued. Had to move in to Penn SQL50LW
YW. How do you like the Squalls?
@@2ndChanceTackle No problems with them. Fisherman /clients like them too. They replaced all PENN309. Use them for lead core and weighted steel (Torpedo fishing products) wire lines with lots of brade backing. They feel solid.
Thanks for taking the time to show us
You are welcome. Please stay tuned for more to come - Dennis
Great video! I just got a Tekota 300...no line counter...just a regular 300. I'm somewhat familiar with the inner workings, since I've worked on my Tekota 600 before. Well, I just got this 300 today, and the spool is very stiff feeling. Out of gear, it will not spin freely...maybe 3/4 or 1 full revolution at best. In gear, it cranks very stiffly as a result. When the clicker is engaged, it just gets ridiculously stiff to crank. I tore the whole thing down, and cleaned, greased, and oiled everything. It's maybe 10% better...maybe. Still unacceptable for a fairly new reel. It's not brand new, but pretty close. The inside is immaculate. ...just too much grease. I "thought" I cleaned and oiled the spool bearings pretty well...as well as the worm gear/level wind, but it's still really stiff. Any ideas or tips? Thanks so much!
This almost sounds like the spool is out of true. That can happen when line gets trapped inside and the angler pulls on it to try and free the jam. The reel frame may also be out of square. These are possible causes, but may not be the issue. It could also be a bent pawl in the level wind.
Here are a few things I would try:
1) Remover the spool. Reassemble the reel without it. Do the gears turn free and easy? If not, the problem is most likely in the gears. I would check for small pieces of broken line that may be inhibiting the free movement. Sounds like you already did this with the cleaning, but may be worth a check.
2) Remove the Pawl from the level wind guide, so that the line guide slides back and forth without effort. Spin the worm gear to make sure it turns easily. If it does not, remove the worm gear, reinstall the spool and see if the reel spins right. This is really a process of elimination. It is something in the moving parts or frame. Give these a try and let me know how it goes. In the end, you may need to replace the spool, but don't go to that expense until you are sure it is not another issue - Thanks for asking - Dennis
Good video sr. I own the tekota 500 ,600 and the 700 I really love these reels I just upgrade the drag washers on my tekota 600,i love to work on my own reels,when i have a question on any reel i watch yor videos and there it's my answer thank you sr.
Thank you. Now I was able to get that pesky star drag clicker seated properly.
Glad to help! - Dennis
On small screws u can use grese on your screw driver tip
Nice video.To insert the clicker you can compress it and use one of the washers to keep it in place . Really easy !
Yes you can. I've done that on some of my later Shimano service videos. Either way, I hate those little rocket ships! Thanks for watching - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle which video dennis...showing the washer clip to keep it compressed...i looked but could not find it...thx
I found a good way to get the "rocket" under control. I used the 5 shims/washers to hold the rocket in place and then screwed the brake Weel on. Easy
That is a great way to do it. Actually, you can set all of those washers and just use the top one as the hold down. Thank you for sharing this alternative method. - Dennis
Glad I found this video, very well done and information is superb. Looking to get a 700 size for halibut. Thanks
I like these reels a lot, despite the thing with the spring. These are strong, well made reels that will last a long time when they are kept serviced. Thanks for viewing - Dennis
Nice video. I was thinking for the tiny screws, possibly one of the screw drivers with the magnetic tip, or possibly the screwdriver with the little metal grabbers on the side. I just bought the tekota 700, going out tonight for ARS, 50 miles off shore on the west coast of Florida.
Thanks for the comments Jimmy. Many of the screws are stainless steel, so the magnet doesn't work. I have trouble with small pieces, but don't mind. It just makes the video "human" - Dennis
Hi Dennis 😀 I have taken apart my tekota 800 several times today. Everything is working except the anti reverse. I hear it trying to engage but it doesn't lock up. Part number 303 on the schematic seem to free float and not stay attached to the gear. Thanks for the help! Joe
Joe - there should be two prongs at the end of the A/R dog part number 303. Those prongs get spread over the toothed ratchet gear under the main gear. One prong goes on the top side and the other on the bottom of that piece. If it still doesn't work, the prongs may be damaged or spread to far apart to get the right friction. If they are too far apart, you can find the ends with a pliers to help bring them close. They do not need to be bent to the point of touching each other, just enough to grip the ratchet. It sounds like your has both prongs riding under it as apposed to being spread on it. - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Thank you and you are right they are a pain to work on! Salt water is a bugger on equipment!
Nice. I did shoot the noise maker out though - lost in man cave! Thanks for the advice.
That's why I call it the rocket spring. I have done the same, unfortunately. I was told a good tip for the future. Try putting the reel inside a 1 gallon zip lock baggie before messing with the spring. It most cases, it it shoots, the spring will land in the baggie - Dennis
i use a dental ss teeth cleaning pick to hold the spring, will not break.
That is a good alternative. Shimano recommends centering the last washer on the stack wo that it compresses the spring and them tighten the star drag. The drag will move the washer down and the spring will be set properly. Try it...That procedure works equally well. - Dennis
Thanks for your videos you have bailed me out a few times. I was wondering if you have a video replacing clutch lever? I have a new part to replace the broken one.
I don't have that video. I will add it to my request list. That darn clutch lever is the weak point of this reel. I have had several come in with your problem. I will try to do a video on the next one in - Thanks for asking - Dennis
Never understood this design either and it really is a pain. I own 2 of the Tekota 800’s now but used to own more of them in other sizes. They’re great reels I run wire on the 2 I have left and the spools are very resilient but that spring makes no sense.
I have found an alternative way to compress the spring that works as well or better than the toothpick. You load all but the last shim on the gear sleeve. Then put the "Rocket" spring in the hole and creep the last shim down until the spring compresses and is held in place. Once that is steady, tighten the stag adjuster and when the adjuster meets the shim, it moves it down and loads the spring! Try that next time you have the reel apart - Thanks for viewing - Dennis
Just watched to the end. Wow, some engineer had evil intent to think that up.
Bill - I have since found a second way to reinstall the spring. Insert the spring in the hole and take the last gear sleeve washer and press it down until it holds the spring in as a wedge. Then use the drag adjuster knob. Screw it down. When it connects with and pushes down on the washer it will set the click spring!. I think you are right though. Either way, the design is frightful and sinister - Dennis
Good video Dennis I know what reel to avoid I know shimano makes good product. Looks like a pain to work on.
That little rocket spring is problematic. I found you can also wedge the spring in with the last tension washer the goes on the stack before the star adjuster and that the spring will set once you tighten down the star. If you know that quirk, then the reel is a good product, and you noted and worth having if you do a lot of heat drop fishing.
Great vid. I have a Tekota 600 and noticed that when boat fishing and disengaging the spool so that it freespools to get the line/sinker down is a bit slow and had a bit more resistance. How can I get the sinker down faster what would I need to lubricate to make it go down faster and more easier ? Any tips ?
Chances are that the spool tensioner behind the handle is locked down too tight. Try backing it off a bit by turning it counterclockwise. Adjust as you need to to get the drop rate right - Dennis
Dennis; anything worth noting on the left side plate of the reel...noticed you did not touch it....
Nothing to do on that side of the frame. A drop of oil in the bearing is about it
Thanks for this video. I just picked one of these reels up to use for jigging. I'm sure I'll reference this a few times whenever I go to service the reel. Do you know of any good upgrades to do to these reels? I also have a 300 size for trolling and a 700 size for offshore trolling/jigging
I am unaware of any upgrades. Truth is, the reels are well made and don't really need to be upgraded. As most, maybe replacing the bearings with ceramics, but that is about it - Dennis
Yes, you can upgrade the drag to carbontex drag washers and also the bearing replaced with ceramic bearings.
Very helpful video. I have two of these reels. Worked on both recently. One looked and works great. The other was not in good shape and is hard to reel. I’m thinking it is the bearings. The outer bearing looks ok but the roller clutch bearing looks bad. How do you remove the roller clutch bearing?
The roller clutch bearing is pushed through the back of the side plate. You may want to hit this bearing with penetrating oil or WD40 a few times and see if it frees up the movement. Make sure you re-oil the bearing after the treatment and before you re-install.
To push the bearing through, remove the other internal gear side parts and then sit the side plate on your work bench face side up. You can then reach inside the gear shaft hole and can tap it out with a flat blade screw driver or punch to loosen and remove it. If you have been spraying the penetrating oil, it should have enough slip to come out easily. Thanks for asking - Dennis
Toothpick all you need to do is jam it in. It holds that spring on its own no need bend it.
Yes - I am familiar with the toothpick approach as well. I have had some issues there with getting the star adjuster to thread properly with the pick in, but yes, you can do it with the toothpick - Thanks - Dennis
Hey bought the biggest Tekota, I don't like that the reel doesn't automatically engage from free spool when cranked while in free spool. Any advice?
If I recall, this reel does not have an auto trip release, If you are looking for that feature, you need to sell this reel and buy one that has that as part of the design - Dennis
I have watched this video several times while servicing my Tekota 600 reel but have found a problem. Everything is in good shape but when when reassembled the anti reverse always engages whether or not the clutch lever is operated. In other words I am unable to forward wind the handle. Seems like something is needed to hold the anti reverse pawl away from the ratchet when in winding mode? Amy thoughts please?
My guess is that you installed the roller clutch (AKA A/R instant anti-revers bearing) upside down. There are two A/R stops on this reel. One is the A/R pawl, that is a back up to the primary A/r which is the roller clutch. That is a one way clutch and when it is upside down, it is going to prevent you from going forward, while the pawl is going to prevent it from going backwards, so you will be stuck Try flipping the clutch and see if that restores your reel operation - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Thank you for your prompt reply and your advice. Everything is fine now. Much appreciated.
Any experience with the new model?
I don't normally see the newest models until they are out of warranty or it is tine for a basic season ending service at about 1 year. If the reel fails before then, customers normally send them back to the manufacturer for the service. As you asking on a specific model? - I will see if I can help - Dennis
I ordered some boca bearings and was wondering how difficult is it to swap them out with the factory bearings?
That is not a difficult task. Just be patient. Dennis
Hi, thanks for the video, I am currently attempting to disassemble a Tekota 800 to try and get the free spool release lever to function again.
The problem I am having is the front plate is not wanting to freely come off the reel.
I have removed all relevant screws but the plate seems stuck down near the shaft, in the area where the two rivets (for lack of better term) are.
Is this just built up corrosion? I do not want to exert too much pressure removing the plate so as not to break any of the internals.
Have you removed the handle and drag assembly? You need to do that in order to remove the side plate. If you have already done that, then you may have some build up of stuff around the seal. A rental tap tap with a small rubber mallet / hammer usually can free it if that is the case. - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Thanks for the reply, yes i have removed everything on the outside of the face plate, I am thinking it may just be build up however the freespool release level is also very wobbly and basically feels detached (the reason i am pulling it apart). Il give it a few taps and see what I can do, however I have attempted to wedge it open with the included shimano 'spanner' near the bottom of the reel cover and it feels pretty firmly lodged.
Thanks
Hmmm. Make sure you get the schematic for the reel to check on the parts and make sure that all the screws are out. The schematic is available at mikesreelrepair.com - Dennis
I replaced the bearings but now I have a new issue. The line guide isn’t engaging the worm shaft. It just moves across the bars freely. Is there an adjustment or do I need to break down the reel and replace parts?
It sounds like the pawl is loose or missing?? remove the end cap beneath the line guide and check the pawl. Make sure it has the teeth and that they are not damaged. Reinsert the pawl and tighten the cap. It needs to completely seal. if it sticks and the line guide does not move, back off the cal a little, song the reel and retighten. Repeat until it is fully seated and the line guide is performing properly. Pease send a note if this does not fix your problem. Thank you - Dennis
I got the pawl to reengage without disassembling the reel but there is a lot a tension and the handle doesn't work smoothly when retrieving line.
Try backing off the pawl and see if the problem with the handle operation is still there. If it works OK, you may have a bent tooth on the pawl. If that is the case, the pawl may need to be replaced. Also, check the tracks on the worm gear. If any are scared or appear rough, then the worm gear may be the culprit. When checking, note if the operation is tight at a certain area of the worm gear. If it consistently fails in that area, that is where to look for the problem. - Dennis
I had the click spring pop out, which way does it go back in?
The spring has the point side facing out of the hole. Since I did this video, I learned another way to reinstall the spring. Use the last tension washer on the gear sleeve to wedge the spring into the hole and leave it there holding firm in the wedge position. Then install the drag adjuster. When the adjuster cranks down on the tension washer, the spring will release and set properly. This is a alternative to the toothpick version. - Dennis
Get yourself a screw starter from Snap-on tools. It's like tweezers with a screwdriver
I will look into that. Thanks
Dab the tip of your screwdriver in grease then the screw will stick to the screwdriver.
Thank you. - It's me, not the screw or screwdriver. I've grown to accept it, even when it doesn't make for a good video! I use the grease from time to time, but sometimes I just struggle. Best wishes - Dennis
I recommend not to work on your IPhone. Talk about small screws.
No problem there! I will leave the phones to those experts - Thanks - Dennis