Two stroke 500cc’s in mental conditions being handled by humans. And no one came off. SO GOOD! Shows you how different MotoGP is now. So many injuries this season. Is it going in the right direction? … Thanks for uploading this. So glad it appeared in my feed.
What a miserable day that was. I spent all day sat under a huge golf umbrella at Club shivering, my abiding memory was of a guy with his helmet perched on top of his head making his way, one step at a time, up the long, steep muddy bank next to us holding on to two plastic pints of beer for dear life. Biggest cheer of the day from the crowd when he made it to the top.
@@stu9stu9stuyea, so glad that the organizers finally came to their senses and eliminated push starts- not sure what year that was though, but I know they finally changed the starting procedure after someone in the 250 class almost died after being hit from behind
@@pasko59000 yea, that and few other things as well- I was lucky enough to race a TZ750 for 2 seasons ('80 and '81 in the AMA Formula one series, and it was more of just having respect for the bike rather than having big balls, (although that was a big part of the equation) because it you got it wrong, it got very ugly pretty quickly-
Thanks for posting the 1985 British Grand Prix! I was stationed in UK USAF. We would have ridden our bikes to see the race but we didnt want to get wet. Good thing we stayed home. It was a miserable race raining cats and dogs! I remember like it was yesterday..thanks for the memories
Atrocious conditions and amazing bike control on view! What a fabulous commentary from Murray Walker with Barry Sheene adding his expertise. The insight and clarity they brought to all of us that watched such races on TV shouldn't be underestimated.
I was there I rode 370 miles round trip in that kind of rain and I could barely see the motorway , and saw Freddy consistently powerslide his way onto the start finish straight , fantastic ! What a great upload , many thanks !
Very informative and accurate commentary from Murray here.....forgot how good he was.....and great to hear from Barry too of course......enjoyed that....thanks Theo.
Jeez, i remember sat in front of the TV that Sunday afternoon watching it live - where did 38yrs go ????? With a 350LC waiting for me in the garage, i was secretly hoping Lawson on the Marlboro 0W81 would take a win
The feel in his hands like a Mozart, on that brutal 2-stroke,.... and eyes like an Owl, in the rain. Never seen anything smoother in those conditions, than Fast Freddie.
Spencer's best year...1985. Riding the 250s and 500s back to back caused injuries to his wrists that seem to plague him forever. Like Murray Walker said, Spencer was in a class to himself in '85.
I was there, bussed/ hitchhiked from Cheltenham. Arrived at 5 pm, it started to rain and didn’t stop for 24 hours. I borrowed a tent from a friend which was not waterproof??? This was in bloody summer!
WOW!!! just incredible and so so magnificent/ I love the honda v4s so much I own one,,, all these guys and the manufactures did it without the use of super computers but with a drafting board and #2 pencils and we still use that areas tech. I have deep deep respect for the riders and those who built these magnificent machines
And that were the year l baught my my Kawasaki GPZ 900. I never saw the race but I remember most of the riders - and I certainly remember Murray Walker (Legend) R.I.P - cometary were never the same after you and James Hunt.
2:41 "Just imagine what it's like having one hundred and forty horsepower in command of your right hand". Bless ya Murray! If I had 140hp in command of my right hand I'd have ripped my cock off when I was a teenager!
Ok the rain isn’t great for racing but the fans are there to watch a race , just makes it a different race than what they expected, slower and different tactics and also sorts the men from the boys 💪💪
Fast Freddie Spencer road raced as a kid. Great style and control all while WFO around the track. Class act with the skill and balls to become World Champion. At his peak he was at least as fast as King Kenny Roberts.
“Natural Born Rider” “Head and shoulders above the rest” After this season, he never won another race in any class at GP level. Retired at the beginning of the 88 season🤷🏼♂️
Andrea Maggi peccato che si sia bruciato troppo velocemente, era un pilota che avrebbe potuto fare molto di più. Resta comunque quella doppietta 250/500 che vale 5 mondiali secondo me.
In conditions like that having less hp can be an advantage. I wonder how Freddie would have done on a V3 Honda. I'll bet his tuner had the power dialed back.
@@colinstewart1432 the 350s were not being made anymore so the factory built a 250 to get ready for the next year and he raced a factory 250 against privateers
Man this would suck as a spectator. You spend all that money and with high anticipation to go see something you love only to have it piss on you all day and the riders can't go full out. A boring race in the pouring rain suuuucks.
Quite Horrendous! That has to be one of the most Conservative under statements ever expressed by one of Motor sport's superstars - ITS Insane DEADLY! most people have absolutely no clue as to the skill these guys are displaying.....just to stay on those 500cc monsters.
And they never mentioned that Neil Robinson from Ballymena Northern Ireland came 9th in this race on a knackered bog standard RG500 Suzuki.. He would of been a multi World Champion.
Two stroke 500cc’s in mental conditions being handled by humans. And no one came off. SO GOOD! Shows you how different MotoGP is now. So many injuries this season. Is it going in the right direction? … Thanks for uploading this. So glad it appeared in my feed.
What a miserable day that was. I spent all day sat under a huge golf umbrella at Club shivering, my abiding memory was of a guy with his helmet perched on top of his head making his way, one step at a time, up the long, steep muddy bank next to us holding on to two plastic pints of beer for dear life. Biggest cheer of the day from the crowd when he made it to the top.
Coldest day I can remember riding home soaked to the skin. I was riding through puddles of water as it was actually warmer than me.
300 lb 160 horsepower 500cc 2 strokes in the RAIN !!?? With no rider aids whatsoever-- SUPERHUMAN is an understatement
And they got no turbo, that takes a while speeding up, and then suddenly surprises you with a spinning rear wheel? Lucky riders.
And push starting it! Lolol
@@stu9stu9stuyea, so glad that the organizers finally came to their senses and eliminated push starts- not sure what year that was though, but I know they finally changed the starting procedure after someone in the 250 class almost died after being hit from behind
Just big balls😂
@@pasko59000 yea, that and few other things as well- I was lucky enough to race a TZ750 for 2 seasons ('80 and '81 in the AMA Formula one series, and it was more of just having respect for the bike rather than having big balls, (although that was a big part of the equation) because it you got it wrong, it got very ugly pretty quickly-
Thanks for posting the 1985 British Grand Prix! I was stationed in UK USAF. We would have ridden our bikes to see the race but we didnt want to get wet. Good thing we stayed home. It was a miserable race raining cats and dogs! I remember like it was yesterday..thanks for the memories
Atrocious conditions and amazing bike control on view! What a fabulous commentary from Murray Walker with Barry Sheene adding his expertise. The insight and clarity they brought to all of us that watched such races on TV shouldn't be underestimated.
Brilliant post, many thanks. I was on the Hanger straight with my wife, my sister and her boyfriend. We got absolutely bloody soaked !
How cold was it?
I was there I rode 370 miles round trip in that kind of rain and I could barely see the motorway , and saw Freddy consistently powerslide his way onto the start finish straight , fantastic ! What a great upload , many thanks !
Very informative and accurate commentary from Murray here.....forgot how good he was.....and great to hear from Barry too of course......enjoyed that....thanks Theo.
Both Barry and Murray the quintessential motorcycle road race announcers. Barry a class act.. we all miss him he left his mark on mankind.
Jeez, i remember sat in front of the TV that Sunday afternoon watching it live - where did 38yrs go ?????
With a 350LC waiting for me in the garage, i was secretly hoping Lawson on the Marlboro 0W81 would take a win
500cc 2 strokes and a wet track. Heroes were made that day.
The feel in his hands like a Mozart, on that brutal 2-stroke,.... and eyes like an Owl, in the rain.
Never seen anything smoother in those conditions, than Fast Freddie.
Riding like a fish and cornering like swan.
I was stationed in UK in 1985. We were going to ride our bikes to watch live but decided to watch on the tele. That was an incredible race by all.
Just amazing that these guys could keep it on the island in those conditions. To have a competitive go? Superhuman!
Spencer, riding with a broken hand had already taken a 4th place in the 250cc to win that title ......then he did this...........awesome.
I was there and remember it well, absolutely soaked all day but great seeing Freddie take the 250 title earlier in the day.
Roger Marshall, what a solid fella, still very involved in racing as well. Chapeau.
Spencer's best year...1985. Riding the 250s and 500s back to back caused injuries to his wrists that seem to plague him forever.
Like Murray Walker said, Spencer was in a class to himself in '85.
InstaBlaster...
Spencer wrecked his wrist in a nothing accident at Redgate Donnington park.
I was there, bussed/ hitchhiked from Cheltenham. Arrived at 5 pm, it started to rain and didn’t stop for 24 hours.
I borrowed a tent from a friend which was not waterproof???
This was in bloody summer!
Global warming
WOW!!! just incredible and so so magnificent/ I love the honda v4s so much I own one,,, all these guys and the manufactures did it without the use of super computers but with a drafting board and #2 pencils and we still use that areas tech. I have deep deep respect for the riders and those who built these magnificent machines
And that were the year l baught my my Kawasaki GPZ 900. I never saw the race but I remember most of the riders - and I certainly remember Murray Walker (Legend) R.I.P - cometary were never the same after you and James Hunt.
I've ridden in some awful rain, but this is a testament how to lean in soggy conditions !
I’m amazed after viewing for a good while, I haven’t seen a dumped bike YET
remember watching the race live in 85 great racing
2:41 "Just imagine what it's like having one hundred and forty horsepower in command of your right hand".
Bless ya Murray! If I had 140hp in command of my right hand I'd have ripped my cock off when I was a teenager!
Ok the rain isn’t great for racing but the fans are there to watch a race , just makes it a different race than what they expected, slower and different tactics and also sorts the men from the boys 💪💪
L époque des grands Champions .Éric
It's unbelievable how long they kept this fricking push start in GP's! :-O
What a fantastic post. i can remember watching that and Murray Walker jinxing my brother who was lying in 7th place!!!
Great names, great times, great racing!
Roystone Szweda great bikes..
Fast Freddie Spencer road raced as a kid. Great style and control all while WFO around the track. Class act with the skill and balls to become World Champion. At his peak he was at least as fast as King Kenny Roberts.
I think it's crazy that the race goes on in these conditions.
Those guys had big balls to race in that weather. Wow.
Miss the two strokes
“Natural Born Rider”
“Head and shoulders above the rest”
After this season, he never won another race in any class at GP level.
Retired at the beginning of the 88 season🤷🏼♂️
Standing water, and a 140hp knife edge power-band . . . . . . you cant deny the talent !!!!
It a wonder there wasn't a bike in the bails on every lap
grandissimo spencer
Andrea Maggi peccato che si sia bruciato troppo velocemente, era un pilota che avrebbe potuto fare molto di più. Resta comunque quella doppietta 250/500 che vale 5 mondiali secondo me.
Finalmente un commento in italiano! Grande Spencer l’ho visto di persona a Varano nel 2014 ho il suo autografo alla grande!
Ho notato nel giro di ricognizione che Mamola aveva una NSR al posto della vecchia 3 cilindri
In conditions like that having less hp can be an advantage. I wonder how Freddie would have done on a V3 Honda. I'll bet his tuner had the power dialed back.
The weather that day was horendous but I must admit Freddie’s skills on that day were a sight to behold , credit to a fantastic rider !
8 riders on a single row !
incredible now
Elbow room only.
Poor Garry Lingham. Race ruined by commentators curse.
Good on you Barry for the call😇😇😇
Campioni come quelli non ci saranno mai più
I was on the Hangar St all day and got absolutely fucking soaked !!!!!!
Thanks for this great video!
Roger Marshall... Such a brilliant rider!
Read his book, just full of death at the beginning....Shocking this sport, how i'm still walking? And just a road rider 36 years
Wow, what a field ..40 starts
Loved to have heard what Ron Haslam was saying in the pits while attempting to get his visor clean. Plenty of cussing no doubt.
Proper riders, proper bikes.
Best race of my life !!
Have you got a pet monkey?
i miss two strokes so much, i wish they would at least bring back 50cc 125cc classes.
8 riders per row. Pissing rain. Push starts. Safety? What safety.
8 racers per starting grid line. Let's bring that back :)
That's how we used to roll! It was called rider skill.
I remember the Norton Wankel and it's constant scrutiny...
One last dash ........!
Proper. Thank you.
Real men and real racers
I was there :D
What would these bikes kick out by 2021 ? 240 BHP ?
What a weird start to a race those old days have
I was at it ;-)
two things: how many times do you get to see six world champions compete and how many times must MW have said the words "grand prix" in his life time?
Barry and Murray, Can it get better?
Motocicletas fantásticas e pilotos muitos técnicos , hoje, com tantas outras tecnologias tem muitos acidentes e escorregões !!!! 😅
Silverstone before it was ruined by the circuit " improvement " brigade.
“He’s got his nose and mouth taped up.”
Wtf?
Nat en koud dat jaar😢
Pit crew told Freddie Spencer's wife that he was outstanding in the rain. So she went looking for him with an umbrella... 😁
日本メーカーばかりだったのに！！
Big zeddie sent me 😉
I laugh when some say Rossi has been ThE GOAT. Do they know about the magical Spencer 1985...?
Agreed! Rossi isn't even in the top three of all time.
Spencer was on a 250 factory bike against all privateers so it was easy
@@bystander1489 Really? No other factory teams ? Sounds unlikely. Happy to be proved wrong though...🤔
@@colinstewart1432 yes Eddie lawson said it
@@colinstewart1432 the 350s were not being made anymore so the factory built a 250 to get ready for the next year and he raced a factory 250 against privateers
I was there in 85, I recall Eddie just wasn't pleased with his pathetic trophy, he had a point. After racing in that.
In Moto & F1 the vast amount of trophies are pants still.
They just got wings in their backs!
A special helmet...
Along with the one my Dad had, along with anyone who bought one.
those were the day
Se ripenso che avevo quasi 30anni 😢😢😢😮😮😂😂😂
I was there
Randy Mamola forever!
140hp?ventilated helmets?wha t will they think of next?scrsping knees on the ground?lol.
6:36 looks like a Young Carl fogarty beside Randy
6:11 .... the raining 250 cc champion .... is that pun on purpose?
Good old English summer weather 😂
Now I understand the joke in the 90's about Walker's curse. Would you Adam and Eve it.
Fast Freddie year
I bet those tyres would take a fingerprint
2023 and they still haven't learned...hold the British GP before the Atlantic heats up...June is best!
❤️ 🐐 ❤.... Freddie 2Fast Spencer
Man this would suck as a spectator. You spend all that money and with high anticipation to go see something you love only to have it piss on you all day and the riders can't go full out. A boring race in the pouring rain suuuucks.
Sorry Gary but you've been Murray'd
そねし
Quite Horrendous! That has to be one of the most Conservative under statements ever expressed by one of Motor sport's superstars - ITS Insane DEADLY! most people have absolutely no clue as to the skill these guys are displaying.....just to stay on those 500cc monsters.
True. In those conditions, with so much power, a 2 stroke powerband, and so little grip, the bike's just planning how much to hurt you 🤘👹🤘
500cc two strokes...
180 bhp in a machine that weighed less than a road going 125.
When these stopped racing, I stopped watching.
AS Lawson goes by on his C- 4 Honda I don't think so buddy boy his YAMAHA Where's Randy he's usually dandy in the rain
big coroness !!!!
C inhumain de faire courrir des motos par ce temps
LOOK where your AT people!!! OF COURSE Your gonna get dumped on!!! That's like ARABS wondering WHY it's so SANDY and HOT where they live!!! Lol.
And they never mentioned that Neil Robinson from Ballymena Northern Ireland came 9th in this race on a knackered bog standard RG500 Suzuki.. He would of been a multi World Champion.