Electric Volkswagen E Transporter UK charge points DO NOT GO ELECTRIC JUST YET
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ย. 2021
- If you are considering a fully electric van or vehicle my opinion is to steer clear, the UK does not have the infastructure to charge the vehicles on demand, rapid chargers are in very short supply and 9 times out of 10
you can't use them either because they are in use or broken.
The UK simply is not at a point to cope with everyone going electric I struggle to find rapid chargers in Manchester and I would say there are around 20 rapid charge points in the whole of Manchester. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Thanks for the honest feedback, I purchased my 2016 T6 back in 2019 its a diesel and have no intention on going electric.
My mate has the t5 he was tempted to get the one I have thank God he didn't 👍
Thanks for sharing this honest and real life experience of electric vans and weak charging infrastructure.
Fair play to you buddy! I’d go electric but you’re right, the infrastructure just isn’t there and with the batteries are at this point the range is restrictive and costly as you point out. Thanks to you for your advice!
They should have gone hybrid, I have been to the dealership since and apparently they have pulled the vw E-Transporter from sale it was a test vehicle and we were guinepigs sadly the experiment is a failure and they have no willing to rectify the faults in a reasonable time so far 6 weeks with a faulty vehicle costing me £30 a day to charge for 53 miles
@@ProBuildCarpenter That’s just crazy mate! I’d be protesting outside seriously. The vehicle has to be fit for use. The main issue is that city charging is so damn expensive so not only costing you money but precious time. Car makers only want to get around legislation so build these low volume vehicles without actually qualifying it the vehicle works! We will build them, charge a premium for them and when it doesn’t work we’ll do nothing. It’s not good enough!
Great video thank you, Interested to see how the ID cargo would stand up to everyday use
A good honest report 👍
Thanks for such an honest review on electric vans a lot of people won’t admit that they should have waited a bit longer and we are not saving the environment as much as everyone thing when u consider the way they mine the batteries fair play again
ENVIROMENT IS WORSE AS IT TAKES MORE ENERGY TO PRODUCE EV CARS AND MINE THE LITHIUM , THEN TO FURTHER RUB SALT IN WOUND , COAL AND DIESEL PLANTS ARE USED FOR ELECTRICITY WHICH BURN MORE PER MILE FOR AN EV THAN DIESEL OR PETROL USES PER MILE THE WHOLE THING IS A POLITICAL PONZI SCHEME !!!!
Have you seen the way they “mine” diesel?!!!
@@paulhurt839 👍🏻which they use to get the batteries 🤯 pedal power all the way
@@tomoneill444 we don’t burn diesel to generate electricity. And only the tiniest percentage of UK electricity supply comes from coal-fired plants. Most is from gas, the rest is from wind and solar, and a bit is generated by nuclear.
@@paulhurt839 ah your right Paul is that what you want to hear
You could fit the home charger run the cable from the board to where you want the charging point , get a sparks to wire it up when you move take the charger and cable with you , should be no more then half a days work for the sparky
If it is subsidised its just paying for it twice the government's use your money for subsidies then you pay again at the charge station, thank you for an honest review
Unfortunately you picked a van with a very low range!! Vans like Citroen eDispatch, Vauxhall Vivaro e, Toyota Proace and Peugeot eExpert can do around 200 miles….Why did you not go for one of those? Your situation will improve a lot when you get your home charger, though. Do you not have a granny 3 pin cable to use at home while you’re waiting?
STILL PRETTY POOR RANGE , THE ENERGY DENSITY OF DIESEL IS 166 TIMES GREATER THAN LITHIUM ION , LITHIUM ION IS NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER AND DEFY THE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS
@@lancethrust9488 solid state batteries will be the answer, but according to Quantemscape (VW are huge investors) they are struggling to scale up SSD batteries to the size of a pack needed for a car. They are proving unstable. I’m sure in 3-5 years, they would have figured it out, but I’m not going to buy an EV tomorrow.
How long do you have to wait for it to charge?
maybe you should have bought one with a decent range that isnt overpriced by 10 grand, plenty of vans out there with 200 mile range that start at 30 grand brand new.
I got it for £240 per month on contract hire for 2 years so it was peanuts hindsight is an amazing thing but also useless my best van was a Renault traffic sport 2009 plate I still own it and it has never had any major issues I'd have one tomorrow great vans.
But it won’t drive like a vw
@@tomoneill444 neither will this one over 50 miles.
I can understand electric cars for office workers going to same place everyday but it just wont work for tradesmen if you do 4 5 jobs in a day it will need charging. If you forgot to charge one night have to cancel jobs to wait for it to charge.
Hi just come across this video
Just wondered how your getting on with the van
I have 2 and have a had issues from the start , currently both only charge to 43mile range max
Hi have u still got the vans and still having issues? Kind regArds
@@johnparrott8683 I still have 2 of them
To be honest they work for my purposes
Yes the maximum average charge I’ve got is 55miles and best is 60 never the 80 suggested and after learning from other people that these vw’s work on some sort of predicted range ! I soon realise short stop start drives gave me a 48-50 charge and a longer drive gave me a 50-60 charge
But comparing them to other ev vans and experiences of friends with other electric van models they’ve been very accurate in the range usage
The current electric Transporter looks pretty but it’s a third-party conversion, and was never designed to be an electric vehicle. It’s basically a stopgap that VW released just so they could say they made an electric van. Works ok for short trips around town, if you can charge back at base every night, but that’s about all. The Vauxhall / Peugeot/ Citroen vans are the only game in town currently (200 mile range, 100kW charging) and with one of those and overnight charging at home your experience would be totally different. The other van manufacturers really need to get cracking on proper electric vans asap - it’s like they’re still making mobile phones from the late 90s while everyone else has iPhones. The only other thing I’d say is, if you must charge the Transporter while on the road, find a 50kW charger where electricity is much cheaper. You’ll always pay a big premium at 150kW chargers (almost twice as much), and the Transporter is limited to 50kW so won’t charge any faster.
I just got mine 2 days ago still waiting for the home charger to be installed, you are right we arent there yet. Vw say 82 mile range, mine on a full charge says 59 is that right?
Wow mine took 3 months to drop that low, iam looking at legal action for Miss selling, no one told me it would get so low and VW have had mine for the past week drove it twice and they could only get it to 67 while it was empty, 82 is never achievable
BIGGEST REGRET OF YOUR LIFE BUYING AN EV
So do you get any we’re near the 80 miles on a charge
I'm going to post another video soon I am having murders with VW they are claiming the van has learned it can only drive 46-51 miles so does no longer charge to 80 which is total bs subscribe and I will keep updating how they have been it's shocking
Iv got one coming in the next couple of weeks, i think this van is designed for a very limited market, i should be ok as i do local deliveries round Brighton and very rarely do more than 50 miles and have a home charger and a cheap electric tariff to charge between 12-4am when its cheap
I am sat in mine now charging 😂 mine seems to have a fault it won't charge past 69-70 miles full I need to call VW did they give you VW breakdown for free ? I got it and am not sure whether we are guinea pigs for them testing the vans so they give us free recovery, I love the van it is the lack of chargers in areas that is getting to me now 👍
@@ProBuildCarpenter I’m not certain but I think a rapid charge will only do 80% I don’t think it’s good for the battery on a home charger it should do 100% in 4-5 hours. I’m leasing mine so don’t think I have the recovery included.
The rapid charge used to fill the battery a home charge is the same only getting to 65-67 then it turns off I'm thinking it's a fault
@@ProBuildCarpenter I expect it’s a question of how the van calculates it’s remaining range, not that it’s not charging the battery to (near) full capacity. Most EVs keep a history of your style of driving and usage and work out the available range based on that, so different owners may see a different range when the battery is full. It’s a software thing, and I agree it doesn’t sound like the Transporter is particularly smart at it.
@@paulhurt839 yes a few people have messaged me saying the same they can only get a charge to 40-43 miles it is quite simply the VW scam same as the diesel emissions, the van runs as it should for a few months then "learns" it can't really drive that far anymore, it is insane it literally was doing 76-78 miles for at least 3 months then went lower and lower
I have a 150 BHP t6.1 and I get around 60MPG in the summer at 60MPH, late 40s early 50s around town in the summer and mid to late 40s in the winter. It’s an insanely efficient van and practically as cheap to run as a decent car. Electricity prices have hiked, raw materials are really expensive and this decline in EVs and battery pack costs everyone banged on about really isn’t happening right now due to the shortages of everything, and will take a good 5-7 years to catch up with itself. I love the idea of an electric car and van, but the world clearly isn’t ready for them for the average consumer.
I learned the hard way haha all the spin from the government on how we need to go green when what we need is honesty and reviews highlighting the facts that EV is not feasible I am so sorry I got it, I have a 2009 Renault trafic sport and it is still running. Ev is ok for hitting the shops and local infrequent trips but if you need to travel or do multiple trips like a courier the van is garbage and it is literally aimed at being a couriers van ! I’d dread to see their drop route…. 3 houses then charge for an hour.. next three houses and charge for an hour next houses then charge to get home 😂
Totally agree our local Council turn them off at Christmas time and they are still off I’m going to go back to a diesel
No way that's insane, I'm going to do a video trying to charge my van show how many are broken or in use and how hard it is to charge
The problem is range and the transporter is as van man talks angle towards a very particular use case. Look in to the iD buzz cargo which should have 300 miles plus. I for one would love to have an electric transporter with comparable range to the diesel so I could do a camper conversion. To me bother the e crafter and e transporter are not attractive to me because of the lack of range. Add to that the degradation of the battery over time and it becomes even more unappealing. Hopefully Tesla will open there network soon like they are trialing in Holland and there will be more charge points, but a home charger is a must. Get a good EV friendly tariff and you’ll save loads of cash. Good luck anyway! You could always trade in the car for an ID buzz cargo if you need more range?
I'm looking at rejecting the van, the battery's have been dying for over 3 weeks now, it won't charge past 51 miles and they have said I have to wait until 12 Dec until they can even LOOK at it god knows how long battery's take to order and replace, we just aren't there yet with electric, vans shouldn't be unusable after 4 months, so I get 51 miles, at 18 miles comfort is restricted (in winter) no heaters, at 8 miles performance is restricted so I am getting a van that can do 20-25 miles max before it starts turning systems off.
✌️ Stick to diesel u til they have like you say 300 miles
@@ProBuildCarpenter Well I wish you luck my friend.
Correct in every aspect, bloody ridiculous....I'm waiting for my Honda CR-V HYBRID to be built and delivered....so why you may well ask!
First...Atkinson System Petrol Engine connected to a small regenerative Battery, obviously the way forward will be Hydrogen, (in the next 30+ Years!!).
Second...*Good one this*....Local wealthy Farmer purchased 2 EV's around 6/7 Years ago, one for his Wife, one for Himself.
Went to same Dealership to purchase 2 Replacements, SAME MANUFACTURER, and was advised that due to the age of the first purchases both Cars would need to have the Batteries TOTALLY replaced before they could put them on their Forecourt to resell, needless to confirm both Cars were worth NOTHING to the Dealership in Resale value, hence NO residual value to p/x for new vehicles.
CONCLUSION...Farmer went back to his Acres, informed our Local Fire Brigade, took BOTH Cars into the centre of one of the Larger fields and set light to them.
I must add that the Farmer, being an Environmentalist, made arrangements for what was left of the Cars to be Professionally removed from his Field.
To add "insult to injury" this particular wealthy Farmer has his own very efficient WIND TURBINES....Needless to confirm both He and his Wife, (and extended Families), are in the process of purchasing NEW Petrol Hybrid Vehicles...STAY SAFE..above all STAY CALM, Friend.,,G.A.R.
Crazy, hybrid should be the next step especially for vans, the UK are trying to punish van users with diesel charge zones but vans keep the country moving so I don't see the sense in angering van drivers when there are vastly more cars on the roads than vans. like you said about battery replacement I saw a guy with a Tesla on TH-cam do the same thing he just burned it because they ripped him off, I'm considering a cart and two horses next at least I could sell the shit and recoup some money 🤣👍 thanks for watching ✌️
If you work your hourly rate in to the waiting time to charge it’s not that good.
It’s awful I lost so much time and money in car parks it was a joke, charge over night, charge mid day and some days charge to get home
There are literally thousands of chargers across England and shedloads in and around Manchester.
What are you talking about?
The video was 2 years ago … there were 3 rapid chargers between Salford and Whitefield in Manchester and 2 of them were regularly out of order.
What I was talking about was the dog shit charging network.
Have fun sitting for an hour charging, I run on diesel now filled in less than 2 minutes and on my merry way I don’t give a shit what fuel costs it’s tax deductible, my time waiting to charge is not refundable.
Ev is dog shit for commercial vehicles 👍🏻
And don't forget cold weather affects these batteries drasticly you can lose 25 to 35% works same as a car battery they die in cold weather
EVS BIGGEST HYPE JOB SINCE FRANK BRUNO
It beggars the question...why on earth did you buy one???
it was cheap , £240 per month and I was led to believe it would do 80 miles on a charge 🤥
5 min to fill with diesel or an hour to charge,losing money on the job.
£10 per day clean air charge Im saving I guess got to look on the bright side 😂
Yep going green means vw and the rest of them are making a fortune, forget that shite
Give it back.. or get a diesel generator and throw it in the back👍
😂 see if Tesla release their power packs over here it's complete bs all this eco crap we don't have the technology
@@ProBuildCarpenter To be fair, VW do have the technology, but it’s not in this van! The first proper VW electric van will be the so-called “iD Buzz” but it’s not expected until 2023. Which sucks, but even that is better than the feet-dragging efforts of the other van manufacturers (PSA excepted). They’re all hoping to keep churning out their Diesel engines for as long as they can get away with.
Stay with the diesel transporter better van
Worse thing I’ve bought in my life! How many of us have researched adding range to the van?! Lol
Mine went back last week thank god and they still won’t admit it was faulty, vw are pure scum, I guess you could put a big diesel generator in the back for range 😂
Who the hell has time to wait at the charge station for an hour every day?
What a load of shit.
Government con
Not going to happen in my life time, its just to make tree huggers happy. Xmas time they moan of possible power shortage with tree lights on
Spend most of your life on a charger no thanks I will stick to petrol
Everything will go to hydrogen in the end. Around 50% of an EV is built with oil based products anyway
Going electric will never happen,
If it does god help us 😂
Really? I’ve been driving electric for 8 years now! It’s happened for me!!
INFRASTRUCTURE WILL COST TRILLIONS , DANGEROUS FIRES AND BROKEN DOWN EVS WILL SKY ROCKET DUE TO LITHIUM NOT BEING THAT STABLE OF ENERGY STORAGE , I HEARD THE REAL AGENDA IS TO BAN PRIVATE CAR OWNERSHIP AND HAVE EVERYBODY ON PUBLIC TRANSPORT IN 20 YEARS USING THE CLIMATE HOAX AGENDA OF COURSE !!!!
@@lancethrust9488 having 100% public transport is just a bigger pipedream, they can't even manage the rail system as it is now, can you imagine how many buses would be needed, on and the amount of routes needed compared to what's now
@@liamjpbrady what work vehicle do you own and what trade are you in out of curiosity ? The bigger picture is we don’t have the infrastructure, imagine everyone plugging their vehicles in at the same time it would be a massive overload I know a man that works for the electricity network and he said the power draw would literally melt the cables in the ground, we have the bare minimum of chargers so when you go to charge there is someone there already, granted the 80 mile claim was low but to get 40 is a joke I looked at the Nissans but they are tiny and wouldn’t fit half my tools in so that is my basis of statement we are not ready and not to get one 👍🏻
The van is rubbish i had one for 3 months the max mile i could get was 45 to 50 shit
80 miles ffs.....useless...
I’m only getting 43 out of it 😂 so double useless