Fly 10 years ago was considered just as good as Sky, him and Sky always met in the finals of Asian tournaments, before TH000 and Infi even got their names recognized.
It seems that a good BM play is the perfect counter to Happy's early DK harrass! This worked already for Focus in WGL. I don't see the same kind of counter with the other races
what you guys did not mention is that regardless the daddy slump that Fly is currently in, he holds a 75% win rate over Happy. If there is any one play that Fly would pick as component, Happy would be the one that he picks.
Fly and Happy played more games on Netease , so in BO3 Fly too understand Happy's late game strategy with PL + mass bansee ,Fly used Witch Doctor so good , the last fight in game 2 Happy's position was too bad he just only focus Orc hero, bansee can't possess anything , look at how Fly so confident at 39:35 drop pedant of mana then use mana potion
Yeah dude fly was just too good. Happy was scared. And the last fight where berserkers got untouched. What couls those banshees posses? No raiders no grunt
not a big surprise ending anyway. for us fans who watch and support Happy's stream for long time, we know Happy's winrate against Fly's Orc has been low for past two months. Also, it's a known fact that Orc is strong vs Undead but weak vs. HU and NE. Statistically, Happy has 65% winrate against all Orc in total, but only 29% winrate against Fly's Orc. Still a Happy's fan anyway. Moon will win this tournament tho.
@@TheAnhphuong92 Fly 100% had always shown good perfomance with offline tournaments. His micro is just great. Also orc's matches highly depend on items for BM and SH. Few claws on BM with pendant on SH is a tough match for an orc opponent. Especially vs UD.
Alex anon this thought is sometimes good and sometimes bad. Killing SH is sure win as it will be no healing. And Happy is always greedy, being UD player. And UD may do insta-kills sometime. Apart from that, I can tell that that is play style preference. I think Happy lost hope in both matches and went to last hope move. Fly was so lucky this matchup and executed perfectly. Reminds me of Grubby in his shape.
No surprise at all, apparently the Back2warcraft guys cant know everything that Fly is beating Happy regularly on Netease, and Fly's ratio should be above 75% for sure, so he was a huge favorite. Interesting thing is, that Happy hasn't done his homework and prepared any new strategy against Fly. His tactic was basically same like against Focus on WGL, just to camp at his expo until banshee upgrades are done and go with 100 food. But it worked just once, and since that never ever against top orc players. Every single other time (since WGL) when Happy camps in his expo and letting Orc to have control map -->> Happy loses game. This strategy simply doesn't work!
Yeah Happy is not an amazing strategist, what he does is what le's learnt from the many many battle net games etc. but he lacks the genius that the best players have. A guy like Moon will lose a game and 3 minutes later in the next game he already has a great counter-strategy. Happy just does the same thing again and hopes for more luck / mistakes from the opponent. He took the pros by surprise in WGL but he's too predictable, I'm afraid he'll only be losing more and more with time as people see through him.
i was hoping for that since Happy become PRO, he takes the game seriously and start to study opponents he is gonna face in tournaments or those which he struggles against most, and apparently this is not happening. He could play against Fly on Netease 30x for last 2 months and still using same losing strategy over and over again. Happy won only the matches, where Fly did some very stupid mistake mostly at the beginning of the game.
Парни, вы не понимаете, что все другие стратегии за UD просто не работают! Покажите мне хоть одного игрока за UD, который бы выигрывал лучших орков постоянно за счет лучшего понимания игры... Их просто нет. Всегда UD выигрывают за счет ошибок орка. UD это не эльфы, где можно менять стратегии, как перчатки. Конечно удивить орка каким-нибудь нестандартным приемом можно, но на высоком уровне делать на это ставку просто глупо. Happy выбирает сейчас лучшую из возможных стратегий. На его стримах с комментариями много раз разбирались и проверялись планы игры против орка. Ничего не работает. Ничего.
"Хороший" баланс :-D ... BM крипится около базы андеда под носом DK и пауков... андед ни чего не может с этим поделать... потом BM получает пару когтей и цирклетку, и DK улетает в алтарь. Обычная история, статистика матчапа говорит сама за себя. Мне больно на это смотреть. Даже досматривать не стал до конца - таких игр сотни. Если орк играет точно, то андед не может сделать ничего. Вообще ничего.
Красава. Подписываюсь под каждым твоим словом. UD тока тащит на т3 но пока ты до него доживешь, орк заберет все твои крип точки, поставит експ и настороит большую армию чем андед еще до того как Эксп орка начнет работать. В итоге UD приходит к орку 50лимита, а у орка герои выще уровнем, айтемы лучше, армия больше и эксп работает на полную. И если ты не выиграл эту битву то все gg. Орк может же слить кучу юнитов при таком расклади, отстроттся и камбэкнуть победно
@@InsidiousRat , ему повезло, что орки играли с ошибками. Это он сам признает, и ни раз уже объяснял. Если бы играли точно, то Хапач там вылетел бы на Лине или на Фокусе, и гудбай... вообще бы места никакого не было. При этом, у орков обратная ситуация с хумами. Если они встречаются на турнире с ними, то просто забей при идеальной игре оппонента.... Да, микро хорошо, стратки там готовить.... только изначальный дизбаланс не излечить этим, когда ты добрался до топового уровня.
More orcs should play master shamans so we get the bloodlust impressions more often, although this time it was kinda mediocre by remo... you can do better...
The most sad part that Blizzard are not making money from wc3 to keep constantly fixing balance. I know it cant be perfectly even but when u play UD and ur Orc oponent is as good as you... ,you(ud) will always face creep and item still. U will alway start main fight with lower level, u will always have a hard time to put exp but u will always wil face orcs bigger army+higher lvl herro+exp. Orc are toooo stronger on t1 and t2 than ud. When ud will get t3, orc would already will have full control of a map till that time, with exp, or sometimes 2. Maybe orc is weak vs hum and ne but they stupidly imblanced stronger than UD. Ud need buffs that works only vs orc. Vs hum and ne ud are fine
@@seancascanet3428 забавно, когда люди говорят о нормальном балансе ORC-UD, и при этом полностью игнорируют статистику этого матча. Во всем мире существует 1,5 игрока за UD, способных стабильно держаться на высшем уровне. И нет ни одного, который бы стабильно выигрывал лучших орков. UD сейчас настолько слабы против ORC, что даже обсуждать смешно этот очевидный факт.
Ну теперь то отмазки хеппи за сливы флаю на нетизе из за пинга не проканают. Тут был маленький пинг и все равно слил как то легко... Флай посильнее смотрится так то
Лол што? Хапач как раз говорит о том, что матчап орк-андед не сбалансирован вообще. И что при точной игре за орка андед проигрывает постоянно. Как раз у людей, которые нормально знают ситуацию и следят за игрой, вообще не было никаких иллюзий по этому поводу.
Im playing this game for a long time,not proffesionaly and not on this lvl but im average player, all i can say this matchup is completely broken, BM is just insane on lvl4+ he crit 2 times and kill your fiend , frost helps alot, statues are pretty useless they get killed first all the time and u cant even move them cause the orc orb effect,banshess are good against orc but they low hp and very easly killed,and on all of this add BM steals its almost imposible to win a game against decent orc player, congratz too fly he played good but i feel this matchup is so favourtable for orc hope blizzard will do something and whille balancing this maptchup they dont ruin other matchups
I think now when Koreans and Chinese see that with litle pracc you can win a 30k Happy is out of game. That winning championship is one in a life time(for him). He is not top klass player, he never was.. maybe 1 or 2 times he won 3th place in prime of wc3
![WC3 - NEXT:Autumn'19 - QF: [NE] Moon vs. Lyn [ORC]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/d4UvcVWXaSg/mqdefault.jpg)
![WC3 - NEXT:Autumn'19 - QF: [NE] Moon vs. Lyn [ORC]](/img/tr.png)
![WC3 - W-League EU - Semifinal: [UD] Happy vs. ThorZaIN [HU]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QUPdz9Tf0f8/mqdefault.jpg)
![WGL:W Grand Finals 2018 - Semifinal: [N] Moon vs. Lyn [O]](/img/n.gif)
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instablaster.
39:53 "Now he's level 5, look for the crits!"
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@Bomba89 the miss can be dispeled but u can't dispel crit. that's the difference.
INSANE micro from Fly in the 2 games, feels like him in year 2009 again!
Good to see fly100% come back
No offence to Happy but it was so satisfying to see him get crushed by an Orc finally. Absolute destruction, Fly totally deserved this win.
Fyi, Fly is Happy's nightmare, since he had never won fly in any BO3+ in the past 10+ years' tournaments.
That's crazy to hear.
This is Fly I remember! He is back boys!!!
What is that noob sequence from 21:17 to 22:00 by Happy? Woah
Fly 10 years ago was considered just as good as Sky, him and Sky always met in the finals of Asian tournaments, before TH000 and Infi even got their names recognized.
It seems that a good BM play is the perfect counter to Happy's early DK harrass!
This worked already for Focus in WGL. I don't see the same kind of counter with the other races
NE Demon Hunter ?
what you guys did not mention is that regardless the daddy slump that Fly is currently in, he holds a 75% win rate over Happy. If there is any one play that Fly would pick as component, Happy would be the one that he picks.
Fly is 100% on fire wow.. Awesome skill.. Good 2 see a orc like him again 😍😍
omg that was thee best match of wc3 I have ever seen i am in love with this fly guy nice game bro
@@alberts6096 nice thanks for sharing bro
Fly and Happy played more games on Netease , so in BO3 Fly too understand Happy's late game strategy with PL + mass bansee ,Fly used Witch Doctor so good , the last fight in game 2 Happy's position was too bad he just only focus Orc hero, bansee can't possess anything , look at how Fly so confident at 39:35 drop pedant of mana then use mana potion
@@seancascanet3428 yeah 6:15 that block of SH show how Fly in good shape
analyzing the mistakes is not making excuses but analyzing. maybe count backwards from 4 when your fanboyism strikes next time
Yeah dude fly was just too good.
Happy was scared. And the last fight where berserkers got untouched. What couls those banshees posses? No raiders no grunt
not a big surprise ending anyway. for us fans who watch and support Happy's stream for long time, we know Happy's winrate against Fly's Orc has been low for past two months. Also, it's a known fact that Orc is strong vs Undead but weak vs. HU and NE.
Statistically, Happy has 65% winrate against all Orc in total, but only 29% winrate against Fly's Orc.
Still a Happy's fan anyway. Moon will win this tournament tho.
Cant you accept that happy was scared and didnt perform well enough?
LUL i thought you fanboys said it was because high ping? they played offline here and he still got trashed by fly..
@@TheAnhphuong92 Fly 100% had always shown good perfomance with offline tournaments. His micro is just great. Also orc's matches highly depend on items for BM and SH. Few claws on BM with pendant on SH is a tough match for an orc opponent. Especially vs UD.
Bomba89 imagine a real fight between us. you would fight with pendant. I will fight with two sharp hand worn claws. I will win.
Alex anon this thought is sometimes good and sometimes bad. Killing SH is sure win as it will be no healing. And Happy is always greedy, being UD player. And UD may do insta-kills sometime.
Apart from that, I can tell that that is play style preference. I think Happy lost hope in both matches and went to last hope move.
Fly was so lucky this matchup and executed perfectly. Reminds me of Grubby in his shape.
Name of map N°1 & N°2?
okay, the elephant in the room is happy's winrate vs fly (29%). so in actuality, the results are not that surprising.
Fly, real ORC Player!
No surprise at all, apparently the Back2warcraft guys cant know everything that Fly is beating Happy regularly on Netease, and Fly's ratio should be above 75% for sure, so he was a huge favorite.
Interesting thing is, that Happy hasn't done his homework and prepared any new strategy against Fly. His tactic was basically same like against Focus on WGL, just to camp at his expo until banshee upgrades are done and go with 100 food. But it worked just once, and since that never ever against top orc players.
Every single other time (since WGL) when Happy camps in his expo and letting Orc to have control map -->> Happy loses game.
This strategy simply doesn't work!
Yeah Happy is not an amazing strategist, what he does is what le's learnt from the many many battle net games etc. but he lacks the genius that the best players have. A guy like Moon will lose a game and 3 minutes later in the next game he already has a great counter-strategy. Happy just does the same thing again and hopes for more luck / mistakes from the opponent. He took the pros by surprise in WGL but he's too predictable, I'm afraid he'll only be losing more and more with time as people see through him.
i was hoping for that since Happy become PRO, he takes the game seriously and start to study opponents he is gonna face in tournaments or those which he struggles against most, and apparently this is not happening.
He could play against Fly on Netease 30x for last 2 months and still using same losing strategy over and over again. Happy won only the matches, where Fly did some very stupid mistake mostly at the beginning of the game.
Парни, вы не понимаете, что все другие стратегии за UD просто не работают! Покажите мне хоть одного игрока за UD, который бы выигрывал лучших орков постоянно за счет лучшего понимания игры... Их просто нет. Всегда UD выигрывают за счет ошибок орка. UD это не эльфы, где можно менять стратегии, как перчатки. Конечно удивить орка каким-нибудь нестандартным приемом можно, но на высоком уровне делать на это ставку просто глупо. Happy выбирает сейчас лучшую из возможных стратегий. На его стримах с комментариями много раз разбирались и проверялись планы игры против орка. Ничего не работает. Ничего.
fly 100 was really insane in this game!
can't believe happy doesn't even reach the finals this time
FYI, Happy always lose to fly in BO3+ in the past 10+ years, after many match-ups.
as usual, not big news
6:10 WTF... Block parade XD
What abt grubby ??? Never heard abt him in this tournament
Alex anon but i heard that he’s not that good he used to be
Grubby’s power level is reducing by 1% per year since 2009. Now he can get 90% max of his former self
Grubby, the chieftain of horde
Really good game but not as good as Remo's game vs the world x)
Remo vs Grubby!
good to see happy s shht out
this is the Fly100% I admire, when VS UD he plays like BM is the boss of the game
true insight aight. if happy had bigger army going into upkeep fly banks more money. not to ve so obvious but it will show in the techs later
Strange games from Happy. Bookmakers gave on Fly victory - 4.3. I think someone is very happy after this game)))
Oh what book do you use? I had no idea you could bet on WC3
@@DannyB0y257 1xbet
Do you livestream these games?
All links are in description, they stream on twitch.
emperor with no clothes
underrated comment, have my upvote!
Como siempre el estilo de juego de Fly le hace el pare a Happy, Fly sin embargo es el hijo de 120. Cómo son las cosas no...
Es el único orco que tiene de hijo a happy.
Bryan Roldan :,v mi dios happy fue tratado como mascota
Totalmente insano ese bm hace años que no veo un harass asi de fuerte que salga tan bien
"Next Video" suggestion again spoiling the finals.... any way to prevent that? :-D
Watch it on twitch
amazing game the 100% fly
FLY 80% is back！happy never won fly in any bo3 or bo5 in his career..
everyone has his cryptonite. doesn't make fly100% more than he is, look at his loserates vs all the players happy beat
@@MasterofPlay7 oh here comes a winer. I enjoyed UD getting smacked though😍😍
Wow
Bm the best always.Fly plays like an alien, he will beat the crap out of moon...
This matchup is just broken
интересно, сколько хапачу букмекеры заплатили
first game after those fin kill dk kill and two aura items you have zero chance
"Хороший" баланс :-D ... BM крипится около базы андеда под носом DK и пауков... андед ни чего не может с этим поделать... потом BM получает пару когтей и цирклетку, и DK улетает в алтарь. Обычная история, статистика матчапа говорит сама за себя. Мне больно на это смотреть. Даже досматривать не стал до конца - таких игр сотни. Если орк играет точно, то андед не может сделать ничего. Вообще ничего.
Красава. Подписываюсь под каждым твоим словом. UD тока тащит на т3 но пока ты до него доживешь, орк заберет все твои крип точки, поставит експ и настороит большую армию чем андед еще до того как Эксп орка начнет работать. В итоге UD приходит к орку 50лимита, а у орка герои выще уровнем, айтемы лучше, армия больше и эксп работает на полную. И если ты не выиграл эту битву то все gg. Орк может же слить кучу юнитов при таком расклади, отстроттся и камбэкнуть победно
Интересно, как тогда Хэппи всех топовых орков разъебал на WGL. Чисто за счет микро?
@@InsidiousRat , ему повезло, что орки играли с ошибками. Это он сам признает, и ни раз уже объяснял. Если бы играли точно, то Хапач там вылетел бы на Лине или на Фокусе, и гудбай... вообще бы места никакого не было. При этом, у орков обратная ситуация с хумами. Если они встречаются на турнире с ними, то просто забей при идеальной игре оппонента.... Да, микро хорошо, стратки там готовить.... только изначальный дизбаланс не излечить этим, когда ты добрался до топового уровня.
Probably fly is the only player against whom Happy should switch race to Human.
and Focus
and lyn, infi
What a fuc.......big win
Impressive orc play. BM is such an annoying hero. lol
fly 天克happy
Delicious... finally some good fucking WC3
More orcs should play master shamans so we get the bloodlust impressions more often, although this time it was kinda mediocre by remo... you can do better...
Заябись хаппи получил
The most sad part that Blizzard are not making money from wc3 to keep constantly fixing balance. I know it cant be perfectly even but when u play UD and ur Orc oponent is as good as you... ,you(ud) will always face creep and item still. U will alway start main fight with lower level, u will always have a hard time to put exp but u will always wil face orcs bigger army+higher lvl herro+exp. Orc are toooo stronger on t1 and t2 than ud. When ud will get t3, orc would already will have full control of a map till that time, with exp, or sometimes 2. Maybe orc is weak vs hum and ne but they stupidly imblanced stronger than UD. Ud need buffs that works only vs orc. Vs hum and ne ud are fine
@@seancascanet3428 what is your win rate against orc?
@@seancascanet3428 забавно, когда люди говорят о нормальном балансе ORC-UD, и при этом полностью игнорируют статистику этого матча. Во всем мире существует 1,5 игрока за UD, способных стабильно держаться на высшем уровне. И нет ни одного, который бы стабильно выигрывал лучших орков. UD сейчас настолько слабы против ORC, что даже обсуждать смешно этот очевидный факт.
太牛逼了吧fly
Ну теперь то отмазки хеппи за сливы флаю на нетизе из за пинга не проканают. Тут был маленький пинг и все равно слил как то легко... Флай посильнее смотрится так то
Лол што? Хапач как раз говорит о том, что матчап орк-андед не сбалансирован вообще. И что при точной игре за орка андед проигрывает постоянно. Как раз у людей, которые нормально знают ситуацию и следят за игрой, вообще не было никаких иллюзий по этому поводу.
Fly38%- -> Fly100%
Happy played very bad :-(
Im playing this game for a long time,not proffesionaly and not on this lvl but im average player, all i can say this matchup is completely broken, BM is just insane on lvl4+ he crit 2 times and kill your fiend , frost helps alot, statues are pretty useless they get killed first all the time and u cant even move them cause the orc orb effect,banshess are good against orc but they low hp and very easly killed,and on all of this add BM steals its almost imposible to win a game against decent orc player, congratz too fly he played good but i feel this matchup is so favourtable for orc hope blizzard will do something and whille balancing this maptchup they dont ruin other matchups
ping 200 again
I think now when Koreans and Chinese see that with litle pracc you can win a 30k Happy is out of game. That winning championship is one in a life time(for him). He is not top klass player, he never was.. maybe 1 or 2 times he won 3th place in prime of wc3
Pretty harsh, i dont think that korean and chinese players are that bad.