@No Remorse grubby is a competitor; he's not gonna stoop so low to let other people dictaste how he has to play. also tod literally rages at HAPPY the same way. the happy who is among the top 3 of the world, and by far the best in europe.nothing he says has even the slightest merit anymore. BTW most people would argue grubby using shockwave instead of warstomp is already throwing a huge bone towards tod. ofc you would never hear tod admit that he jsut lsot to a guy who forgot his shaman upgrades and played the worse skill on one of his heroes.
@No Remorse You are a ToD subscriber, but amazingly you have 77 comments on Grubby's videos. Is ToD paying you for this service to flame Grubby? If so, it's not with money, is it?
Skillful game in terms of avoiding direct collision, destroying base and preventing extracting resources by an opponent, while creating your economy. Well played Grubby.
"Down here, salt is a way of life. Obviously the environment down here is all salt. The ceiling is salt, the floor is salt, the walls are salt, and to an extent the air is salt. You breathe that in and you constantly taste the salt." - Rare interview with ToD's mother.
I watched the two streams simultaneously. I missed the saltmine at the end, so I asked both chats about what ToD wrote Grubby (with a neutral attitude, I wasn't hostile at all), and I was banned for 10 minutes on ToD's stream. :D ToD won the next game, and it says a lot, that Grubby commented it with a simple "gg", while ToD screamed "GET THE F*CK OFF MY GAME!"
@@zacterkrackers751 and that Grubby is realy a good Guy, and I think because tod is jalouse of how many money grubby makes. But Grubby seriously deserve it and work hard toi for it !
Theres a lot of built in anger in tod because tod was so close in being as successful as grubby yet he never managed. And you know how it is in most sports, the #1 is way more successful then everyone else. For example in chess, only the champions are probably millionaires from revenue. I can understand his anger but tod also has a dbag personality too which may have contributed to his low popularity
@@deathbombs i know man, 4k. I played wc3 when they were big. But i think they were more like collegues then friends. And they didnt play 2v2 a year ago. Been watching Grubby a long time.
calling grubby a fakeass dbag because he posesses basic manners and a calm attitude reminds me a lot of people yelling the same at day9. just really childish behaviour.
Yea haha not sure you've played so much Wc3 but its a fucking hell playing against a Rat-tactic who the opponent always switches to when they are loosing (And i Still love Grubby but come on)
@@ulosen Yeah I still love Grubby as I said, but we have to acknowledge that when he is loosing he switches to lame / rat tactic, and i Love Grubby 4sure
I haven't played this game in over 15 years/I was never really good at it. But watching you play this, the entire time I could appreciate the insane APM micro/macro, and could genuinely feel the frustration accumulating in your opponent LMFAO "rat" scurrying everywhere around the map fkn hilarious. No better satisfaction at the end of the game than opponent rage. Well played man
He's actually amazing for the community, he hosts tournaments with his own cash as prize money, he hosts a weekly podcast, etc Must have been having the worst day of all time lol
Unfortunatly even if toxic ToD is very correct, Grubby always does the rat-tactic when his opponent is ahead of him, he even said in this game and I paraphrase "its time to lame"
Anders Bjarnhage that’s not entirely true, if you focus on every game the have , grubby always goes for micro plays and trying to kill unit in fights while tod always goes for the noob hero focus without caring about anything example. Watch the first fight in this match and you will notice grubby trying to micro his win in it like every other pro play meanwhile tod just goes for the hero focus like everytime. So basically the only way to win against a player like that is go in kill a couple of units and tp out before he insta kills your heroes
o cara é fraco demais! tem suas habilidades como HU, e só. Não consegue entender que há tempo certo pra tudo, então prefere xingar o Grubby de sempre estar fugindo. poor tod.
Lucas Guilherme Mano, hoje eu posso falar e entender português porque estudei por 8 meses no ano passado. Mas quando era menino, eu sempre queria jogar DotA BR mas eu sempre foi removido porque não era do Brasil (meu IP) e não falava português. Não se porque, mas somente queria compartilhar está história com você
Shmandalf When he loses Tod blamed the game human slower to tier2 can't run away because of endurance. When he wins he hates the player i.e. get the #@$# out my game
Wait so what you are saying is that he brings it on himself that he wrote that and now people have read it and know he said that? So really he is responsible for his own action? I'm gonna sit and think about this.
@@lightlayagajoie5739 just that he complains every time he loses. The ongoing self-pity really dulls any sympathy I might have had for getting bad breaks or having a tough matchup.
When I see ToD I see someone with a lot of internal misery within him 🤷🏻♂️ Very negative personality. Does he ever have anything positive to say that doesn't involve him winning? I don't watch him enough to know. It seems he's unhappy with life's outcomes in general. When I see him on his camera he looks like some sad teenage dude, playing video games to numb the disappointments of real life. Whereas Grubby seems like a much more well balanced dude. Not saying that Grubby is everything as he appears to be on stream, but it definitely looks like he's coming from a more mentally healthier place.
Nope. ToD complains even when winning. He is indeed a ridiculously negative person who thinks all of his shortcomings, are the product of external factors. It's a childish sense of entitlement.
Perfectly well said. ToD has no social life at all. He’s a hater in real life. Sadly, ToD is not a teenager anymore. He’s in his mid 30s & has the worst possible attitude...!!!
heh, i met them both at wcg in cologne. i was a 16yo kid and asked Tod for autograph, he literally laughed in my face for not having anything to write with. grubby on the other hand was super cool, took a photo even though he was late for some after party
im gonna watch this entire thing with a smile on your face i like who you are just honest about his shittyness but you don't stoop down to his level, mad respect. hope you are safe and happy
I'm trying my absolute hardest to see things from ToD's perspective, but I just can’t get my head that far up my ass. It’s kind of hilarious watching ToD try to fit his entire vocabulary into one sentence. It’s better to keep ones mouth shut and give the impression that ones stupid than open it and remove all doubt 😔
31:23 That situation reminds me of one chapter in history of our sad country. When cossack uprising happened in 1648, polish commanders send few, i'll call them "taskforces", to contain it. One of those was consisted almost only of registered cossacks (this is - cossacks on service of the Commonwealth). Easily to predict, they betrayed and switched sides. Though in that specific game it hadn't that much impact on overall situation as in said rebellion.
At some point this became a game of chick to see who was willing to let their main base get destroyed first. Love to see the complex information battle / gathering going on as well
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Disappointment in the ending got GOT is one of the most unifying cultural experiences of our generation. One caveat to your TLDR synopsis is that Danny was absolutely crazy, she had been used and abused her whole childhood and often lashed out in uncontrolled rage when things didn't go her way. IHO she had been the mad queen ever since she birthed her dragons.
@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 No..the better the player the calmer he is...good players know how mentality is a big factor in performance in solo and team based multiplayer games like mobas ofc..so basically the better the player the more silent he is...he has 100% concentration on the game instead of wasting his energy on raging and losing his concentration and mentality
@@getafexasterix2999 Most of the best athletes, boxers, players etc. have that grit to them. Real winners hate losing and they'll do whatever they can to win. "Nice boys finish last" is another one. Ofc. it's not good to lose your concentration in a game like wc3 by raging. The point you make is also 100% correct.
@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 competitive doesn't mean toxic..yes all top players are competitive in real and esports but toxicity is an entirely different thing
@@getafexasterix2999 I agree, but I think Tod's toxicity stems from him hating to lose. Not trying to defend that behaviour at all. But that's sort of a manifest of how competetive he is and probably a bit low social iq :D
How are you supposed to fight him with your army? Spellbreakers are too op. Maybe with turens but orc is catered towards ratting in the matchup. Grubby played the game right. Dude just got outplayed.
Idk man, some people just stay a kid in some aspects. I mean, he is a grown man and is actually an important member of wc3 community. He casts, olays, streams, has a podcats . But he is a CHIIIIIILLLLLD :)
funny how grubby is not complaining about human heroes and casters having infinite mana, but when someone gets hit by RAIDERS with PILLAGE it's somehow unfair isn`t this what an orc supposed to do almost every game by design
crazy man xD But please explain this matchup. Why did you never build tauren or other stuff wich can fight breakers? Did you just feel to play it or is orc simply outmatched in a streight fight?
I know ToD is famous for his BM but tbh Grubby knows what he's doing too. Hes just a lot more passive aggressive about it. I get the feeling that their beef goes deeper than the surface.
I mean he can simply squelch Tod and move on, he doesn't do that. He keeps glhf and gg in all chat, again he doesn't have to. All those little things are kind of passive agressive, I totally agree. Whatever the grudge between them, it totally goes both ways. That said, I've never seen Grubby complain about enemy's strat or exploits. I've seen Tod whining about that multiple times, which kinda discredits him. I can also see that Grubby plays extra tryhard when he gets matched with Tod, yet tries to pokerface his ambition, lol. In the end, I enjoy the drama and don't really care about who's right or wrong. Any form of rivalry between people who are the best at what they do is fun to watch, even more fun when there is a background story, lol.
@@alexandrefraisse2823 IDK man. There is a lot of running around positioning correctly on the map in SC. Zerg and Protoss will both get behind a Terran trying to push to cut reinforcements. ToD failed to ever expand, and as a result Grubby was able to afford the huge gold investment required, combined with pillage, to rat him out.
There was nothing out of character in Danaerys's attack on Kings landing. I hated the last season but that one thing had been built to since season 1. She was always violent, her insanity was foreshadowed time and again as we were reminded insanity runs in her family.
I don't know what is wrong with me but I am really enjoying so hard when tod is crying Even in normal matches I am yelling "OHH PLEASE CRY BEFORE LEAVE THE GAME PLEASEEEEE" I think I'll start to watch his streams just to see his face in the moment he is losing
Come on Tod. He is not going to just there and get wacked. In an open fight, of course Grubby's army would get rekt. He won this game by playing smart. That's what the game is about. ToD despite having a superior army, he plays dumb. He is like a giant powerful boxer who is dumb and slow, and only looks for that one punch to win the game. Your opponent isn't going to just sit there and let you hit him. ToD should've expanded but he didn't. He should've known there are eyes everywhere, but he didn't. He should've rebuild his base, but he didn't. He should've towered it, but he didn't. He kept making the same mistakes over and over again, that's why he lost despite having the superior army.
on ToD`s channel he wins, on Grubby`s channel he loses, but ToD`s playing style is more straightforward and fair than hit-and-run with raiders and speedscrolls. I guess it`s all about players` personalities.
We're finding ourselves playing against ToD on Last Refuge, and the least we can say is that rats are doing pretty well on this map ;)
@No Remorse looool
@No Remorse grubby is a competitor; he's not gonna stoop so low to let other people dictaste how he has to play.
also tod literally rages at HAPPY the same way. the happy who is among the top 3 of the world, and by far the best in europe.nothing he says has even the slightest merit anymore.
BTW most people would argue grubby using shockwave instead of warstomp is already throwing a huge bone towards tod. ofc you would never hear tod admit that he jsut lsot to a guy who forgot his shaman upgrades and played the worse skill on one of his heroes.
Are many Orc expos against humans lacking honor? Ironic isn't it? ToD's playstile copied in a nutshell
@No Remorse You are a ToD subscriber, but amazingly you have 77 comments on Grubby's videos. Is ToD paying you for this service to flame Grubby? If so, it's not with money, is it?
Matias this dude is a idiot lol.
Imagine being a 35 years old ToDdler
Reminds me of an arm-wrestler called Michael Todd. He is a sore loser and a cheater
How the hell did the armwrestling community get in a wc3 vid?
@@chriswelcome8102hahah good one 😅😂
Grubby squeezes so much value out of everything. One unit gets so much work done
Skillful game in terms of avoiding direct collision, destroying base and preventing extracting resources by an opponent, while creating your economy. Well played Grubby.
Way of fighting, without fighting. Bruce Lee
Also Tod playing like a stupid animal lol
"Down here, salt is a way of life. Obviously the environment down here is all salt. The ceiling is salt, the floor is salt, the walls are salt, and to an extent the air is salt. You breathe that in and you constantly taste the salt." - Rare interview with ToD's mother.
"You may take the boy out of the salt, but you never take the salt out of the boy"
watched his streams for a couple days, and could feel that vibe rubbing off on me. Reality check.
Keep coming back for these ToD moments.
4 months later, and i find myself watching this for the 6th time
"GoT Season 8 & Reforged have a lot in common...." lol 😂
I watched the two streams simultaneously. I missed the saltmine at the end, so I asked both chats about what ToD wrote Grubby (with a neutral attitude, I wasn't hostile at all), and I was banned for 10 minutes on ToD's stream. :D ToD won the next game, and it says a lot, that Grubby commented it with a simple "gg", while ToD screamed "GET THE F*CK OFF MY GAME!"
a lot of Kek
I ALWAYS GET BANNED IN THERE FOR LITERALLY TRYING TO BE A VOICE OF REASON AMONG THE HATE
ToD was saying it with a smile. He likes to trash talk but it's for fun, it doesn't have to be taken too seriously
can you tell me the date of the stream? blizz4rd
@@atraf21 it's literally in the description of this vid lol
GG Grubby for staying kind and with great manners, you are the proud of the community ! Beside tod is the shame !
He probably just jealous Grubby has a wife
@@zacterkrackers751 and that Grubby is realy a good Guy, and I think because tod is jalouse of how many money grubby makes. But Grubby seriously deserve it and work hard toi for it !
I love how Tod gets beat up by Happy on a regular basis. Then you know the salt is getting out of a hand.
ToD has some serious problems, and it's not about his anger management, it's simply about his personality.
His brain is smaller than that one of a rat
Tod = Toddler
Haha
10/10
@@minhho5362 Hes not dumb. Just angry
@@minhho5362 Actually rats are pretty smart. :D
Theres a lot of built in anger in tod because tod was so close in being as successful as grubby yet he never managed. And you know how it is in most sports, the #1 is way more successful then everyone else. For example in chess, only the champions are probably millionaires from revenue. I can understand his anger but tod also has a dbag personality too which may have contributed to his low popularity
This should be a series: “toying with Tod”. Like em both but its more satisfying to see Grubby win in a beat the bully kind of way.
lol, TI3 Alliance would have been proud of you Grub.
That's for sure. Difference is that Na'vi wouldn't be very proud of ToD lol
Someday tod will understand that the crying makes it that much more enjoyable for grubby lol
TriggereD starts with a T and finishes with a D
Just like ToD
there should be a special term form his triggeredness, "TriggoreD".
hahaha well done!
ToD short for TODLER
Toddler*
@@SuperSkandale no tod writes toddler with 1 d, its impressive he can write it anyway
Hmm, starting to get the impression they might no longer be friends.
How did you get the hint?
@@Sam-zy8pc 🙃🙃😉
They probably never were. A person like ToD is born that way.
they stopped playing 2v2 like a year now. THey used to be in a team
@@deathbombs i know man, 4k. I played wc3 when they were big. But i think they were more like collegues then friends. And they didnt play 2v2 a year ago. Been watching Grubby a long time.
calling grubby a fakeass dbag because he posesses basic manners and a calm attitude reminds me a lot of people yelling the same at day9.
just really childish behaviour.
Maybe we'll understand how pointless manners are when were as good as him
We all have our moments where our emotions get the best of us. Dont generalise peoples behavior and their lives by one moment.
The Year Of The Rat: Outplayed
GGWP
Yea haha not sure you've played so much Wc3 but its a fucking hell playing against a Rat-tactic who the opponent always switches to when they are loosing (And i Still love Grubby but come on)
@@andersbjarnhage6865 sounds like part of the game
@@ulosen Yeah I still love Grubby as I said, but we have to acknowledge that when he is loosing he switches to lame / rat tactic, and i Love Grubby 4sure
I have never seen Grubby being unpolite to him, but Tod frequently rage. Tod would be a great MOBA player. GG
I haven't played this game in over 15 years/I was never really good at it. But watching you play this, the entire time I could appreciate the insane APM micro/macro, and could genuinely feel the frustration accumulating in your opponent LMFAO "rat" scurrying everywhere around the map fkn hilarious. No better satisfaction at the end of the game than opponent rage. Well played man
ToD is a shame for the community
He's actually amazing for the community, he hosts tournaments with his own cash as prize money, he hosts a weekly podcast, etc
Must have been having the worst day of all time lol
AquaticSkipper nah he is always toxic vs grubby not just this time
Unfortunatly even if toxic ToD is very correct, Grubby always does the rat-tactic when his opponent is ahead of him, he even said in this game and I paraphrase "its time to lame"
That's a bit too much.
Tod is a great addition to the community... even if his persona atm has embraced beeing bm.
Anders Bjarnhage that’s not entirely true, if you focus on every game the have , grubby always goes for micro plays and trying to kill unit in fights while tod always goes for the noob hero focus without caring about anything example. Watch the first fight in this match and you will notice grubby trying to micro his win in it like every other pro play meanwhile tod just goes for the hero focus like everytime. So basically the only way to win against a player like that is go in kill a couple of units and tp out before he insta kills your heroes
He tried to play rat vs UD some games later, got crushed and whimpered about race OP hahahaha
can u link the twitch stream? i wanna see it lol
o cara é fraco demais! tem suas habilidades como HU, e só. Não consegue entender que há tempo certo pra tudo, então prefere xingar o Grubby de sempre estar fugindo. poor tod.
Lucas Guilherme Mano, hoje eu posso falar e entender português porque estudei por 8 meses no ano passado. Mas quando era menino, eu sempre queria jogar DotA BR mas eu sempre foi removido porque não era do Brasil (meu IP) e não falava português.
Não se porque, mas somente queria compartilhar está história com você
@@rrrr2150 i dont remember now, is Tod's stream from the same day of this match (date in description)
@@guilhermegomessouza3858 ah ok i'll try to find it
Love the cheeky "heheh" right before he yoinks sorcs and priests
Isn't the saying don't hate the player, hate the game?
ToD hates on both I guess.
Shmandalf When he loses Tod blamed the game human slower to tier2 can't run away because of endurance. When he wins he hates the player i.e. get the #@$# out my game
And himself it feels like
This is why you are different Grubby, keeps your cool isn't easy. Keep being a good role model mate!!
Saw this live and it was amazing to watch! If only you TH-cam viewers could see how crazy the chat was getting near the end :D
Can u link to twitch stream
At the start of the next game :D
What happened ?
Oops he did it again, he played with the ToD, they're lost in the game, oh baby baby...
Grubby vs. ToD games always have good comedic value.
If you've followed Grubby you know every year it feels like Tod and him are breaking up
the dislike is from tod
I'd feel bad except ToD kind of brings it on himself with a bad attitude.
Wait so what you are saying is that he brings it on himself that he wrote that and now people have read it and know he said that? So really he is responsible for his own action? I'm gonna sit and think about this.
@@lightlayagajoie5739 just that he complains every time he loses. The ongoing self-pity really dulls any sympathy I might have had for getting bad breaks or having a tough matchup.
WC3 is a strategy game. An economic victory is as valid as a military one
The GoT ending explanation was hilarious.
"GoT season 8 has a lot in common with Reforged." I almost spat my drink when he said that. Truth to power.
When I see ToD I see someone with a lot of internal misery within him 🤷🏻♂️
Very negative personality. Does he ever have anything positive to say that doesn't involve him winning? I don't watch him enough to know.
It seems he's unhappy with life's outcomes in general.
When I see him on his camera he looks like some sad teenage dude, playing video games to numb the disappointments of real life.
Whereas Grubby seems like a much more well balanced dude. Not saying that Grubby is everything as he appears to be on stream, but it definitely looks like he's coming from a more mentally healthier place.
Nope. ToD complains even when winning. He is indeed a ridiculously negative person who thinks all of his shortcomings, are the product of external factors. It's a childish sense of entitlement.
Perfectly well said. ToD has no social life at all. He’s a hater in real life. Sadly, ToD is not a teenager anymore. He’s in his mid 30s & has the worst possible attitude...!!!
Isn't tod french ? Sort of self explanatory
@@ODAALx lol
t.t. I’ m French and I found that funny lol (and kind of true)
The master of the 'rat' style!
heh, i met them both at wcg in cologne. i was a 16yo kid and asked Tod for autograph, he literally laughed in my face for not having anything to write with. grubby on the other hand was super cool, took a photo even though he was late for some after party
Truly king of orcs holy that hit and run....the WD wards used to perfection.
ToD needs a hole he can cry into when the mean guys beat him.
im gonna watch this entire thing with a smile on your face
i like who you are just honest about his shittyness but you don't stoop down to his level, mad respect. hope you are safe and happy
The Grubby-ToD matchup is fantastic to watch, and honestly, ToD's trash talk just makes it even more satisfying. Don't change a thing
I'm trying my absolute hardest to see things from ToD's perspective, but I just can’t get my head that far up my ass. It’s kind of hilarious watching ToD try to fit his entire vocabulary into one sentence.
It’s better to keep ones mouth shut and give the impression that ones stupid than open it and remove all doubt 😔
Why "sometimes", it's always true :). There, instantly improved quote :p
@@petros_adamopoulos Done 👍
33:50 lol that raider let out an emphatic "YEAGGHHH!"on the last AM ensnare
„The Galaxy Brain Evolution of the Orc Mind.“
Beautiful.
31:23
That situation reminds me of one chapter in history of our sad country. When cossack uprising happened in 1648, polish commanders send few, i'll call them "taskforces", to contain it. One of those was consisted almost only of registered cossacks (this is - cossacks on service of the Commonwealth). Easily to predict, they betrayed and switched sides. Though in that specific game it hadn't that much impact on overall situation as in said rebellion.
Tod has the maturity of a toddler, it's so laughable and also so depressing
TODDLER LMFAO😂😂
Thank you ToD for making Grubby's video more popular.. And probably for yourself, too.
Love the rivalry and watching both guys upload the wins over the other. 😂
Yeah they are both super petty tbh
At least Grubby will upload losses every now and then (watch the latest superclash vs ToD).
Haha, yeah Tod feels always like every thing around him is OP, so thats not easy to stay calm with this perspective^^
At some point this became a game of chick to see who was willing to let their main base get destroyed first. Love to see the complex information battle / gathering going on as well
this is not getting old ,is becoming a classic.
Grubby really enjoys it when he conplains like that.
That last hit on the Rock Golem was nuts
Grubby with the clickbait thumbnails
Well, I can't be smug, it got me here
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Everyone complains about ToD, but wouldnt it be boring without ppl like him? : )
totally, gotta have good heroes and good villains. tod is great at being the bad guy
I mean this is entertaining in a way, but really no it wouldn't… if one needs drama to not be bored, I have bad news… they're the boring one.
not in a good way, but you can not force him to be nicer. This is Tod! Lot of ppl still like his personality
At my paranoid hours I can not help but think that Grubby pays Tod to act the bitch so they both get more views.
10/10 thumbnail LMFAO
LMAO ToD doesn't even write/respond to "gl hf" in the beginning
He never does. Of all the games i've seen against Grubby he's never done it.
Yeah Tod is stupid really
he doesnt do it at all and has a bullet point about it in his own stream
Nothing makes my day as much as a triggered Tod.
Disappointment in the ending got GOT is one of the most unifying cultural experiences of our generation. One caveat to your TLDR synopsis is that Danny was absolutely crazy, she had been used and abused her whole childhood and often lashed out in uncontrolled rage when things didn't go her way. IHO she had been the mad queen ever since she birthed her dragons.
Classic bad manners ToD.
Gotta love the ending.
This was like model game of Grubby-like play. Awesome maneuvering! Opponent got frustrated :d
Unmannered Baguette 😤😏
Well played Grubby 👍
I thought good players were all polite and reasonable people, good game grubby
It's usually the other way around. "The nicer the guy, the poorer the player" That's an old quote that doesn't just translate to wc3 :)
@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 No..the better the player the calmer he is...good players know how mentality is a big factor in performance in solo and team based multiplayer games like mobas ofc..so basically the better the player the more silent he is...he has 100% concentration on the game instead of wasting his energy on raging and losing his concentration and mentality
@@getafexasterix2999 Most of the best athletes, boxers, players etc. have that grit to them.
Real winners hate losing and they'll do whatever they can to win. "Nice boys finish last" is another one. Ofc. it's not good to lose your concentration in a game like wc3 by raging. The point you make is also 100% correct.
@@asdadfafafafffallslsldd8068 competitive doesn't mean toxic..yes all top players are competitive in real and esports but toxicity is an entirely different thing
@@getafexasterix2999 I agree, but I think Tod's toxicity stems from him hating to lose. Not trying to defend that behaviour at all. But that's sort of a manifest of how competetive he is and probably a bit low social iq :D
Another top game by the orc master! ToD got what he deserves with such an attitude.
How are you supposed to fight him with your army? Spellbreakers are too op. Maybe with turens but orc is catered towards ratting in the matchup. Grubby played the game right. Dude just got outplayed.
I remember I saw a Tod stream where he was saying you were such a toxic part of the community. How is he so delusional?
Idk man, some people just stay a kid in some aspects. I mean, he is a grown man and is actually an important member of wc3 community. He casts, olays, streams, has a podcats . But he is a CHIIIIIILLLLLD :)
Tod acts like such a baby when he loses to you...and acts like a kid that just got a lollipop when he wins... good sport grubz bad sport tods!!!!
funny how grubby is not complaining about human heroes and casters having infinite mana, but when someone gets hit by RAIDERS with PILLAGE it's somehow unfair
isn`t this what an orc supposed to do almost every game by design
He didn't approve of the design :).
imagine having a race with spell immune units that is very tanky and can steal spells. hmmmm
@@mamak339 AND eat mana.
crazy man xD
But please explain this matchup.
Why did you never build tauren or other stuff wich can fight breakers?
Did you just feel to play it or is orc simply outmatched in a streight fight?
ToD never dissapoints
Wow the orc completely outexpanded the human in this one, how!? Also you raided the sh*t out of him GG
I think they are still good friends, if Tod ever acts differently then it means that something is wrong with Tod as this is his natural demeanor.
I adore TOD flamestrikes, he lit harder than a Blood Mage XD
They both rival of each other, very fun to watch their game
Great frequent raiding tactic. Awesome play and map control. Love ya Grubbs
Last time I checked, Guerrilla Tactics were not banned in any form of warfare
I know ToD is famous for his BM but tbh Grubby knows what he's doing too. Hes just a lot more passive aggressive about it. I get the feeling that their beef goes deeper than the surface.
I mean he can simply squelch Tod and move on, he doesn't do that. He keeps glhf and gg in all chat, again he doesn't have to. All those little things are kind of passive agressive, I totally agree. Whatever the grudge between them, it totally goes both ways. That said, I've never seen Grubby complain about enemy's strat or exploits. I've seen Tod whining about that multiple times, which kinda discredits him. I can also see that Grubby plays extra tryhard when he gets matched with Tod, yet tries to pokerface his ambition, lol. In the end, I enjoy the drama and don't really care about who's right or wrong. Any form of rivalry between people who are the best at what they do is fun to watch, even more fun when there is a background story, lol.
@@alexandrefraisse2823 IDK man. There is a lot of running around positioning correctly on the map in SC. Zerg and Protoss will both get behind a Terran trying to push to cut reinforcements. ToD failed to ever expand, and as a result Grubby was able to afford the huge gold investment required, combined with pillage, to rat him out.
The bm just gives him power
DBZ he needs to charge...
Masterful play of the superior tools that Orc has
Human is much more rigid and fragile
You played that guy like a damn fiddle, great game!
Also the way that guy handled the loss really shows his character, what a fuckin baby lol
It was worth watching for that last part
Very well played Grubby! Excellent come back.
Salty ToD is best ToD, that u angry from Grubby made me fall from the chair because of laughter.
As much criticism the ToDdler gets, which he deserves, he is a strong opponent.
lmao the chat going wild in the end, everyone loves salt
Grubby = "fakea$$ dbag" ToD = "reala$$ authentic dbag"
There was nothing out of character in Danaerys's attack on Kings landing. I hated the last season but that one thing had been built to since season 1. She was always violent, her insanity was foreshadowed time and again as we were reminded insanity runs in her family.
I don't know what is wrong with me but I am really enjoying so hard when tod is crying
Even in normal matches I am yelling "OHH PLEASE CRY BEFORE LEAVE THE GAME PLEASEEEEE"
I think I'll start to watch his streams just to see his face in the moment he is losing
Thx.
He who angers you conquers you
Hello guys. I haven't seen this game for a long time. What is the reason the reforged version is not played?
Winning too much gives you haters, its like a law of nature xD
I had seen a glimpse of his dislike before towards you, now it is in the open.
welp no reason to watch GoT now
It is like Tom and Jerry, very fun to watch :D
Come on Tod. He is not going to just there and get wacked. In an open fight, of course Grubby's army would get rekt. He won this game by playing smart. That's what the game is about. ToD despite having a superior army, he plays dumb. He is like a giant powerful boxer who is dumb and slow, and only looks for that one punch to win the game. Your opponent isn't going to just sit there and let you hit him. ToD should've expanded but he didn't. He should've known there are eyes everywhere, but he didn't. He should've rebuild his base, but he didn't. He should've towered it, but he didn't. He kept making the same mistakes over and over again, that's why he lost despite having the superior army.
on ToD`s channel he wins, on Grubby`s channel he loses, but ToD`s playing style is more straightforward and fair than hit-and-run with raiders and speedscrolls. I guess it`s all about players` personalities.
15:02 Grubby be like... I'm just NOT gonna repair any burrows because Tod will say 'Can't even kill one burrow. Balanced?'
repair how? through blizzard?
Loved the GoT commentary