Great video Wayne! I'm in the buying stage of my first boat right now and this definitely gave some extra confidence in knowing there will be mistakes.
Thank you, Wayne, for being open and educating my wife and I on the reason why salt water is bad for I/O's, compared to outboards. We will be boating in fresh water and the boat will be pulled out and brought home at the end of the day. I love your videos and think you're the best. Gil in Massachusetts.
I think you did a good job on this video, and you also did good on getting your boat out on the water last year, 25 times was good. We have a boat and was only out 3 times on ours, about 14 hours. Hang in there, we enjoy our boat as much as we can each year, most all of the time it is less than 25 times a year. But even being only that little amount of time on the water, I still do NOT EVER regret having a boat! It’s here when ever I can use it! Again, great job on the video! 👍
Yeah it's definitely easier to get out more often when your boat is in a slip and not on a trailer. I'm actually trying to keep a log of our outings this year.
Rinker is a good make. I have a 1991 Larson Fish & Ski. I replaced the transom and stringers and floor. It's really solid now. I probably have more than $20,000 into it now , but I've had it for around 15 years. And yes, I have been towed before. A new boat starts out over $30,000 so unless you plan to upsize, that boat has lots of potential. If it is maintained and upgraded, knowledgeable boaters will tip their hat to you. 😎👍
@@WayneTheBoatGuy I didn't do it myself. That's why it cost $20,000. I just had the electrical improved, added an ACR, batteries, volt/amp meter. That alone was $2,000. New axle last year, rebuild lower unit. The list goes on and on.
I’m a new owner of a used boat that I bought this winter. Haven’t had it out on water yet but already put new control cables on and bought materials to replace the trailer bunks…it’s a process. Please lord let it be worth it! lol
i got a small yamaha 70 last year, steering was super stiff, had to replace that cable. 250 bucks. ouch, only paid 1400 for the boat, motor and trailer so not to bad. needed to replace the trim motor. was so lucky to find a guy selling his yamaha 70 motor, cables, controller, and trim, cuz he broke the water jacket. all for 300. had to do all the installation myself and had a boat wise neighbour help with the wiring for the trim. the previous owner took it all out when the old trim motor died. so for 2500 everything works great. now im watching your other videos to learn how to control it better. it keeps scaring me 🤣🤣
Wow, that was amazing. I want to buy a 14 to 16 foot John Boat. What you said has truly showed me that i cam g3t one because I do have the tools because I will probably be using them😂
A friend told me to buy my 3rd boat 1st … but I didn’t listen … I bought an old Strat instead.. a little repair on the bridge and it’s been my fav since.. I guess you can relate
I paid $7k for a 2001 sterndrive bowrider. Thought I would at least get one season out of it before I had to do any work. Had to replace the battery, blower, rebuild the carb, change fuel water separator, clean spark arrestor, fix stereo mounting, fix trailer lights, and replace two blown trailer tires. No bimini top, just using clamp-on UV umbrellas.
Yeah... that's kinda the case with my 'new' boat as well! We bought a 2001 Four Winns Horizon 230 bowrider last fall and I have several videos of all the repairs I've been doing over the last year - and I'm not done yet!
This one was well suited for both until we added the bimini top! Keep looking and you'll find your boat! Here's what I found for under $1,000 th-cam.com/video/pFdxSapNQfc/w-d-xo.html
Boating is a ROI mentality. Far too many people don’t consider the average trip cost. Example. You buy a new boat and todays boats are easily 150K. This means IF you take it out every weekend for a summer each trip will cost 10k. The more years you have the boat the less each trip costs but the kicker is boats degrade quickly if not meticulously taken care of. Buying a used boat can be the smartest investment IF low cost. The engine is the highest cost part. Check that very well. Look for rot. Just do research and due diligence and BE PATIENT. Anyway I see so many young families get owned by their boat. Then they resent it because it’s so expensive and they feel they need to justify cost by going all the time which adds even more cost, travel, gas, food, fees, etc. A small family will get overwhelmed with a costly boat. Start small. Start cheap. Do research take a knowledgeable friend, get it check by mechanic etc. there are deals but like opportunity you need to be prepared and willing. Best of luck. It’s great and it sucks too but can be great if most choices are the right ones.
I watched the video, read the description and comments to find out what you meant by a "cheap" boat. I found out a lot of details about the boat, but not the price. So I'm still wondering what you had to pay for it? And, very good video...
It was under $2,000 but I felt the price was irrelevant because “cheap” really is a fluctuating amount. Prices vary greatly by area, season and year. In Florida in 2019 a boat like this could probably be found for $700, while in the summer of 2020 in New Jersey something like this might have easily sold for $4,000.
Hello Wayne, I've been watching your videos and especially your video on winterizing the Four Winns with the Volvo Penta 5.7 and duo prop. I told my wife that is the boat I want to get since I can go back to Wayne and figure out how to fix the problem. I just saw a short video of you saying that you would not buy another I/O again, I'm confused, my wife and I are retired and were looking forward to having Wayne as my navigator but NO. Are outboards better and less work?? I will not hold you responsible but can you give me some advice. Gil
Some I/O configurations are easier to work on than others. If your boat is used only in freshwater and not kept in the water, that is better for an I/O. Since I keep my boat in the water for 6 months, and am in brackish water, an outboard is a better choice for me. As I get older, I do not like climbing into the engine bay or contorting myself to change oil or drain the block. I also don't like having to think about the bellows. An outboard can fail completely and it won't sink the boat.
You're welcome! - I have other videos for new boat owners, and several more planned! Stay tuned - and ring the bell to get notifications when new videos come out!
Without seeing the boat, the concerns are that these boats were built with a wood core, so there is a very good chance that wood is in need of replacing after 30 years. This is not an easy job at all. Also the electronics and engine components are possibly original and may need to be completely replaced. Sometimes these older boats have an outdrive that is virtually impossible to get parts for. There is a reason that a lot of older big boats can be found cheaply - because they usually need a lot of work.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy that's exactly what I need to do, Wayne. I'm the guy that buys the new boat and ruins it in two months...lol. I need to do it just like you did or it will cost me a lot more ;-)
Wayne We have also bought old boat but cost us lot more because we had to pay someone to fix up the problems. Do you keep it o trailer ,mooring on marina birth/?
Ours was trailered in the yard in the winter and sat in a slip in the marina in the summer.That stinks about having to pay someone to do the repairs - much more costly.
Thx for reply. I just simply don't have those type skills I admit. I do know now have to to take apart thermostat to get all sand out after having get towed after getting stuck on sandbank. How much did it cost you at marina as although trailoring has lot advantages it's also a pain.
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Well even if I said I paid $400 or $3,500 for the boat how would that help you? When buying used and old, every season, and every year prices change. And there's times when there seem to be lots of good deals and times where everything is expensive.
Why can’t people ask questions nicely on Social Media? Wayne went out of his way to make this very educative video. Time and effort spent I could not do myself. Yes, first question that came to my mind after watching his video was how much was the boat initial cost? If you look up, he responded to another viewer who asked him nicely. Why do people think they can be nasty on Social Media? Are you also nasty to everyone when you go buy food at the supermarket? Next time you respond to a Social Media post, either ask a question nicely or just do not respond at all. No disrespect intended… 😊
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Great video Wayne! I'm in the buying stage of my first boat right now and this definitely gave some extra confidence in knowing there will be mistakes.
Thank you and best of luck!
There should be more videos like this for all people that are looking for nice cheap boats to start boatinf
pepsicola thank you! That why I do it.
Yep…it’s called a kayak. Always starts up and the oil changes are cheap.
Thank you, Wayne, for being open and educating my wife and I on the reason why salt water is bad for I/O's, compared to outboards. We will be boating in fresh water and the boat will be pulled out and brought home at the end of the day. I love your videos and think you're the best. Gil in Massachusetts.
I love it, it`s Vintage. I have a 1973 Hawkline, a 19ft, and it looks identical to yours
I think you did a good job on this video, and you also did good on getting your boat out on the water last year, 25 times was good. We have a boat and was only out 3 times on ours, about 14 hours. Hang in there, we enjoy our boat as much as we can each year, most all of the time it is less than 25 times a year. But even being only that little amount of time on the water, I still do NOT EVER regret having a boat! It’s here when ever I can use it! Again, great job on the video! 👍
Yeah it's definitely easier to get out more often when your boat is in a slip and not on a trailer. I'm actually trying to keep a log of our outings this year.
Best educational video ever. I’m seriously thinking of getting me a boat. Most likely will get one. Thanks
Rinker is a good make. I have a 1991 Larson Fish & Ski. I replaced the transom and stringers and floor. It's really solid now. I probably have more than $20,000 into it now , but I've had it for around 15 years. And yes, I have been towed before. A new boat starts out over $30,000 so unless you plan to upsize, that boat has lots of potential. If it is maintained and upgraded, knowledgeable boaters will tip their hat to you. 😎👍
I'm sure there's a great deal of satisfaction when you replace those parts yourself!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy I didn't do it myself. That's why it cost $20,000. I just had the electrical improved, added an ACR, batteries, volt/amp meter. That alone was $2,000. New axle last year, rebuild lower unit. The list goes on and on.
@@Brewdiss BOAT: Bust Out Another Thousand
This is very good information and I love the old boat! Learning how to care for the boat is part of the fun. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you!! With an old boat, mistakes aren't nearly as painful!
Good video sharing your experience helps calm you down before you go buy! Thanks!
Thank you and happy hunting. It can be quite stressful!
wow getting your boat out 20 to 25 in a season thats awesome. I'm jealous!
My schedule gives me more summer free time. I realize I am very lucky.
I was thinking the same thing !
Thanks man! Really encouraging video ❤
Glad it was helpful!
I’m a new owner of a used boat that I bought this winter. Haven’t had it out on water yet but already put new control cables on and bought materials to replace the trailer bunks…it’s a process. Please lord let it be worth it! lol
i got a small yamaha 70 last year, steering was super stiff, had to replace that cable. 250 bucks. ouch, only paid 1400 for the boat, motor and trailer so not to bad. needed to replace the trim motor. was so lucky to find a guy selling his yamaha 70 motor, cables, controller, and trim, cuz he broke the water jacket. all for 300. had to do all the installation myself and had a boat wise neighbour help with the wiring for the trim. the previous owner took it all out when the old trim motor died. so for 2500 everything works great. now im watching your other videos to learn how to control it better. it keeps scaring me 🤣🤣
What a nice well made and informative video
Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for a great video
Wow, that was amazing. I want to buy a 14 to 16 foot John Boat. What you said has truly showed me that i cam g3t one because I do have the tools because I will probably be using them😂
A kicker motor can get you home when your regular motor won’t.
So can a paddle
If your in a pond or lake, a paddle will do.
Thinking of buying one thanks
First boat is always a learning curve.
All firsts are. This curve jsut happens to go upward and that’s because time and money are X and Y on the graph of life. X + Y = hole in water.
A friend told me to buy my 3rd boat 1st … but I didn’t listen … I bought an old Strat instead.. a little repair on the bridge and it’s been my fav since.. I guess you can relate
lol
Thanks from NYC I am thinking about getting a boat in Moving close to the water so it was helpful
Good luck and try to take your time finding one that’s right!
I paid $7k for a 2001 sterndrive bowrider. Thought I would at least get one season out of it before I had to do any work. Had to replace the battery, blower, rebuild the carb, change fuel water separator, clean spark arrestor, fix stereo mounting, fix trailer lights, and replace two blown trailer tires. No bimini top, just using clamp-on UV umbrellas.
Yeah... that's kinda the case with my 'new' boat as well! We bought a 2001 Four Winns Horizon 230 bowrider last fall and I have several videos of all the repairs I've been doing over the last year - and I'm not done yet!
I did the same thing. I was able to customize it to my needs. It was a very rewarding process. I'm also looking for something bigger.
It is rewarding! Good luck on your search for something bigger. Bugger boats can mean bigger problems as I've been learning lol
Replace your impeller, and rebuild the carbs, it’ll last a long time. And NEVER run it out of the water without muffs!!
Yup!
Wayne got quite a guitar Collection😳
Thank you I will buy a cheap boat to learn it first...totally 👍 👍
Love the video want a bargain boat as yourself but for fishing as well
This one was well suited for both until we added the bimini top!
Keep looking and you'll find your boat! Here's what I found for under $1,000 th-cam.com/video/pFdxSapNQfc/w-d-xo.html
Boating is a ROI mentality. Far too many people don’t consider the average trip cost. Example. You buy a new boat and todays boats are easily 150K. This means IF you take it out every weekend for a summer each trip will cost 10k. The more years you have the boat the less each trip costs but the kicker is boats degrade quickly if not meticulously taken care of. Buying a used boat can be the smartest investment IF low cost. The engine is the highest cost part. Check that very well. Look for rot. Just do research and due diligence and BE PATIENT. Anyway I see so many young families get owned by their boat. Then they resent it because it’s so expensive and they feel they need to justify cost by going all the time which adds even more cost, travel, gas, food, fees, etc. A small family will get overwhelmed with a costly boat. Start small. Start cheap. Do research take a knowledgeable friend, get it check by mechanic etc. there are deals but like opportunity you need to be prepared and willing. Best of luck. It’s great and it sucks too but can be great if most choices are the right ones.
You did not do inspection at the beginning.😂😂😂😂
My first cheap old aluminum boat cost me $900. It was worth it. I sold it for $1000 after using it for many great fishing trips
That's cool - not many people win!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy 😂 not at alllll man. Boats are endless money pits
I watched the video, read the description and comments to find out what you meant by a "cheap" boat. I found out a lot of details about the boat, but not the price. So I'm still wondering what you had to pay for it? And, very good video...
It was under $2,000 but I felt the price was irrelevant because “cheap” really is a fluctuating amount. Prices vary greatly by area, season and year. In Florida in 2019 a boat like this could probably be found for $700, while in the summer of 2020 in New Jersey something like this might have easily sold for $4,000.
Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
Good information!! What you said about the trailer was so true, I just bit the bullet and bought a new trailer. Wiring issues will be your next item.
That's a project I plan to tackle sometime soon!
Great video Wayne! Curious to know how much you paid for that used boat initially, if you don’t mind sharing.
It was under $2,000
Hello Wayne, I've been watching your videos and especially your video on winterizing the Four Winns with the Volvo Penta 5.7 and duo prop. I told my wife that is the boat I want to get since I can go back to Wayne and figure out how to fix the problem. I just saw a short video of you saying that you would not buy another I/O again, I'm confused, my wife and I are retired and were looking forward to having Wayne as my navigator but NO. Are outboards better and less work?? I will not hold you responsible but can you give me some advice. Gil
Some I/O configurations are easier to work on than others. If your boat is used only in freshwater and not kept in the water, that is better for an I/O. Since I keep my boat in the water for 6 months, and am in brackish water, an outboard is a better choice for me. As I get older, I do not like climbing into the engine bay or contorting myself to change oil or drain the block. I also don't like having to think about the bellows. An outboard can fail completely and it won't sink the boat.
great video
Thanks!
Blige pump is the most important part of your boat
thank you !
You're welcome! - I have other videos for new boat owners, and several more planned! Stay tuned - and ring the bell to get notifications when new videos come out!
Any opinions about Bayliner 1989 2455? seem to be a lot of boat for the money. Cheers guys
Without seeing the boat, the concerns are that these boats were built with a wood core, so there is a very good chance that wood is in need of replacing after 30 years. This is not an easy job at all. Also the electronics and engine components are possibly original and may need to be completely replaced. Sometimes these older boats have an outdrive that is virtually impossible to get parts for.
There is a reason that a lot of older big boats can be found cheaply - because they usually need a lot of work.
Thanks for the ìnfor
Wayne the guitar guy
sort of - in a past life
It would have cost you more if you hired someone to do the work. Nice guitars!
Yeah there’s a very big cost difference if paying to have work done. Thanks for watching.
NOW HE HAS 2022 75 ft HATTARIS SPORTFISHER
GREAT VIDEO
Not quite...yet lol
Under $1,000 on repairs for a 40 year old boat....priceless 😎
Repairs AND upgrades! It was a good starter boat for us!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy that's exactly what I need to do, Wayne. I'm the guy that buys the new boat and ruins it in two months...lol. I need to do it just like you did or it will cost me a lot more ;-)
So how.much?
Hi dear do you need help getting a new boat?
Wayne We have also bought old boat but cost us lot more because we had to pay someone to fix up the problems. Do you keep it o trailer ,mooring on marina birth/?
Ours was trailered in the yard in the winter and sat in a slip in the marina in the summer.That stinks about having to pay someone to do the repairs - much more costly.
Thx for reply. I just simply don't have those type skills I admit. I do know now have to to take apart thermostat to get all sand out after having get towed after getting stuck on sandbank. How much did it cost you at marina as although trailoring has lot advantages it's also a pain.
Where did the Bimini top come from?
I believe I got it from Amazon or Walmart online.
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there really is no cheap boat for ocean use
Salt water is tough on a boat!
They are we have cheap and strong boat for affordable price 3k up so if your interested kindly drop your email address so I can contact you
where did you get the seats from?
I believe I bought them through WalMart online.
My father-in-law explained to me one time what boat meant Is break out another 1000
Sometimes that is the case!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Yes You Are So Right about This
How much for gas per outing?
It depends greatly on the speed and distance. Usually we only used about 5 gallons to go out for a few hours.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy is your engine a 2 stroke or 4 stroke?
@@dakotapreusser4138 Its a 1985 model year. Only 2 strokes were made then by Evinrude.
@@tim4269 very cool. I just bought a 1973 StarCraft with an old 2 stroke evinrude
Man you got luck
I know - I've heard lots of horror stories from people.
B o a t = bust out another thousand. Only 4 rich or stupid
I have found boats for well under $1,000 - it can still be done
Nothing about pricing, waste of my time
Well even if I said I paid $400 or $3,500 for the boat how would that help you? When buying used and old, every season, and every year prices change. And there's times when there seem to be lots of good deals and times where everything is expensive.
Why can’t people ask questions nicely on Social Media?
Wayne went out of his way to make this very educative video. Time and effort spent I could not do myself.
Yes, first question that came to my mind after watching his video was how much was the boat initial cost?
If you look up, he responded to another viewer who asked him nicely.
Why do people think they can be nasty on Social Media?
Are you also nasty to everyone when you go buy food at the supermarket?
Next time you respond to a Social Media post, either ask a question nicely or just do not respond at all.
No disrespect intended… 😊
Yeah planning to get one but dont know where to start especially for cold weathers
If you're boating in cold weather, be sure to have an enclosed space!
@@WayneTheBoatGuy thanks