We actually would be able to see surge in a game. The Archie sonic comics are a lost cause but in 2017 Archie lost the license and IDW makes the comics now. Those characters aren’t off limits for the games, sonic even mentions Tangle, who is exclusive to the IDW comics in Sonic frontiers
@@hadestheunstoppable8278 Not sure about eclipse but we definitely aren't seeing scrouge in any media ever again because of legal issues with the writer that made him
Surge and Sonic Secret Rings looking real nice. Their damage output and moves are really strong, I'd rank them A+ or S tier. Very strong, but nothing compared to gods like Ayumi, Exslayer and Shadow exe. A matchup I'd like to request, Surge and Apex Seelkadoom vs Sonic exe and Dark Sonic. A decently fair matchup with Surge and Sonic exe having crack transformations.
That was fantastic, she as a character is great. Her design is perfect, but i tend to avoid the internet when looking for a drawing reference, overall 11/10
By the way Loki, if your wondering why you couldn't hit super Sonic 8:32 There is a clash system thus you couldn't really do much. Next time you do a mugen video including that version of Sonic just know theres such thing as a "Boost Clash." Keep it in mind. *Theres a video about clashes with that sonic and a new version of Shadow*
She is a really good character in the comics and would love to see her alongside others like Tangle and Whisper in the games. You most likely don't won't play this but the Sonic Forces moblie game is including a bunch of new characters this year and Surge alongside Kit was mentioned
Yo the fight with Mecha Sonic was awesome, glad you gotten to use it 🦾😎. Also if your interested, I made an AI Patch for Sonic Black. Being very strong, and with custom voice lines
That timing was mad coincident I just started reading the idw comics the reason I was reluctant was because I imagined a lot of bs would be going on in the comics that I didn’t understand or didn’t care about and the order in which you read issues in aren’t as straight forward as chapters in manga but it’s pretty good in all honesty
Bruh loki and tommie are so damn funny when it comes to mugen and im actually curious to see super sonic frontiers sprite and if you do find it loki try doing a vid about him also i kinda wanna see sonic base moveset😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😆😆😆
@@LokiFES @Loki FES one more thing, I know it's been a long time since you played it but where did you get some of the characters at? From sonikku tsk's sonic mugen.
2:24 EEEEEEH! Tangle was refrenced in Frontiers. By the way man, i may have a few mods for you to get on this that might be interesting to look at. Im sure you remember these gals.
Glad to see Surge is as bonkers as I thought she'd be in this MUGEN. Kudos to the Surge spite and her animations in general, she looks fantastic in motion and when in play. Not to mention, her fan made Super Form looks so dope! Plus, those Dragon Ball Super and Naruto specials are just the cherry on top. Surge's powerset was just begging for her to be in a fighting game, and this works perfectly for her. It's stuff like this which DESPERATELY makes me want to see the IDW characters in actual Sonic games. I highly recommend reading the IDW Sonic Comics when you got some free time, Loki. For a long while after how mid Sonic Forces, was and the "Ugly Movie Sonic" these comics were the only shining beacon in the dark for a long while.
You having False Super Sonic and Ultra Instinct Omen Sonic making me think that Ultra Instinct Omen was a call back in the series to the actual False Super Saiyan form. 🤔 not sure if Lord Slug is canon or not but if so hey. Might be on to something.
SEGA can’t use any Archie characters if they wanted to because of that douchebag man child, Penders. Any hope of seeing them in a game is on hold until he dies and won’t be able to press lawsuit charges. The IDW characters are fair game though. And I would love to play as Whisper in particular. I seriously wish you’ll give those comics a read because they are FIRE!
Surge is basically Scrouge but less cringe n more insane imo. Even tho I doubt Surge will get an official Super Form in IDW (Especially if Iizuka still on that "Females can't transform into Super" bs), still imagine Super Sonic vs Super Surge (Something Archie should have done for Super Sonic vs Super Scrouge)
@@reggielacey2235 Not really. He only stated that Male hedgehogs can only go super which means he excluded not just females hedgehogs, but other species too. Yes Blaze can turn Super, but that's thxs to the Sol Emeralds and not Choas Emeralds. Also yes I'm already well aware that Iizuka finally change his tune and let Amy go Super for Origins. Kinda wish they at least either change her into gold Super form or at least spike up glowing rosa but at least she got her Super n Hyper form. Hopefully Superstars also let's Amy have her Super form and improve her look. Also even tho Iizuka n Sonic Team now let Amy have her Super form in the classics, still I wonder if they will let her have her Super form for the Modern cast along with Sonic's friends. I doubt this but it would be cool to see Super, Amy, Tails, and Knuxs help Super Sonic fight off a final boss. Maybe in Froniters Update 3 or a new modern title or something
@@reggielacey2235Ik. In Classic tho, yes. Modern tho, Tails n Knuxs had their chance to turn into Super in Heroes but Iizuka n team decided to give them sphere which that's bullcrap. Seriously what's with the Classic franchise giving Tails, Knuxs, and literally now Amy getting Super forms but for Modern, just the big 3 hedgehogs get Super forms (Yes Blaze can transform, but only with Sol Emeralds). Hell let's not forget about Mighty n Ray too since they got Super forms for Mania Plus. At least since IDW is now canon I guess, technically Metal did transform into his super state back when he design as Eggman. Plus in Frontiers, at least they let Knuxs say he could have gone Super and finish the job quicker. Hopefully in this era, they continue to change their tune and finally let the other Modern cast use the choas emeralds for once instead of finding more bs excuses of why Sonic's friends can't go Super besides the male hedgehogs.
surge is like a cannon scourge because scourge is not own by them one person came up with him now he dont work for the company and he took scourge with him and tried to sue them i think for making surge i think
Aight. Call me Willy Wonka, because I'm about to bring in the nerds. So Surge is a character made by Ian Flynn. The reason she looks so similar to Scourge is because Ian made him (but Ken Penders claimed ownership over him as he made "Evil Sonic", the character that Ian eventually evolved into Scourge when he took over). The name and identity of the character is intentionally made to reference Scourge. Surge, like Scourge, is meant to be an antagonist counterpart to Sonic, but Surge is more nuanced in the way she's written compared to Scourge. While Scourge is meant to be what Sonic would be if he was evil, Surge is kind of a deconstruction of Sonic rivals (no psp). She is beaten by Sonic easily despit having speed that matches his. It displays that it takes more than being fast to beat him, as Sonic has years of battle experience as well as many friends and rivals that can match his speed. Theres more to it, but i think ive gone on long enough. Thanks for reading this and please read the comics.
@@LokiFES imagine if frontiers sonic was in mugen There's also a smash ultimate mod where his moveset changed Check out sonic delta for more information
I feel like we gotta see tails.exe vs ayumi or sonic.exe but give him so he can actually stand a chance maybe or maybe even ayumi with sonic.exe vs tails.exe
I know Aeezoom, he's a Tri-fusion of Aeon, Seelkadoom, and Nazo on some Dragonball AF techs, I was wondering if him and Shadic DBS can settle who's the better fusion
if you want to talk about OP characters try Super better Mario and Luigi my boys are gods they are underreacted and can beat almost any character, 1v1, 2v2, does not matter they will beat some checks.
Oh cool they used my girl Vivian Reed for the lines Those were taken from some comic dubs me and her were in for @MarioKartGamerDude. I was Kitsunami in em. Whoever puts in Kit should add me in
We actually would be able to see surge in a game. The Archie sonic comics are a lost cause but in 2017 Archie lost the license and IDW makes the comics now. Those characters aren’t off limits for the games, sonic even mentions Tangle, who is exclusive to the IDW comics in Sonic frontiers
Now that you reminded me of tangle we Might Have Something
What about eclipse and scourge been wanting to see them in a game for a long time now?
@@hadestheunstoppable8278 Not sure about eclipse but we definitely aren't seeing scrouge in any media ever again because of legal issues with the writer that made him
@@ColeFHD damn it's a real shame honestly
Well scourge may not appear in any game but surge will take his place and do his legacy
Surge and Sonic Secret Rings looking real nice. Their damage output and moves are really strong, I'd rank them A+ or S tier. Very strong, but nothing compared to gods like Ayumi, Exslayer and Shadow exe. A matchup I'd like to request, Surge and Apex Seelkadoom vs Sonic exe and Dark Sonic. A decently fair matchup with Surge and Sonic exe having crack transformations.
I beat those "gods" with sonic and the secret rings on arcade mode
The time break spam was too much for them
I'm so glad you play this with Tommie now the duo is hilarious plus it's not only you getting clapped by the CPUs 😂
watch your tongue Boy!! i'm great at this Game😢
@@LokiFESI’m better than you because Ik how to play street fighter and the Og sonic battle Magen which is now sonic vs dbz Mugen
That was fantastic, she as a character is great. Her design is perfect, but i tend to avoid the internet when looking for a drawing reference, overall 11/10
By the way Loki, if your wondering why you couldn't hit super Sonic 8:32 There is a clash system thus you couldn't really do much. Next time you do a mugen video including that version of Sonic just know theres such thing as a "Boost Clash." Keep it in mind. *Theres a video about clashes with that sonic and a new version of Shadow*
i see✏📃
@@LokiFES azoom is shadow from another world check him out i beg you
Aeezoom is just a three way fusion between nazo seelkadoom and aeon
@@LokiFESif you thought aeezoom was annoying in super, try fighting his ass in hyper
@@Mr.Memesoonmax annoying in sonic vs dbz mugen when I downloaded and fought his ass in hyper in it
She is a really good character in the comics and would love to see her alongside others like Tangle and Whisper in the games.
You most likely don't won't play this but the Sonic Forces moblie game is including a bunch of new characters this year and Surge alongside Kit was mentioned
We're getting Surge in the 21st this month, not sure about Kit
Yo the fight with Mecha Sonic was awesome, glad you gotten to use it 🦾😎. Also if your interested, I made an AI Patch for Sonic Black. Being very strong, and with custom voice lines
I need THAT Sonic Black is so ass!
I used Him Way More Last Video He's Dope
Even though surge doesnt have a real super form its cool its there, i thought for surge's transformation it should have been the dynamo cage.
Yo i love your videos . By the way can you do hyper sonic and hyper shadow vs exslayer and tails.exe. I think the hyper forms would win
I think the the hyper forms would win
Same
i feel like u and Tommie should play together as a team it would be epic to get a whole video about that
maybe
5:25 Ray in the background: 👀
That timing was mad coincident I just started reading the idw comics the reason I was reluctant was because I imagined a lot of bs would be going on in the comics that I didn’t understand or didn’t care about and the order in which you read issues in aren’t as straight forward as chapters in manga but it’s pretty good in all honesty
What you know about Sonic Rush, Tommie.....ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! 🤣
(dang Loki...that roast, tho)
Its the “I KILLED HYPERSONIC?!” for me 😂
“DONT TOUCH ME!”
*touch touch*
Surge vs mecha sonic, both at max, will go absolutely nuts
Ah hell yeah, even got Vivians voice on it 😎
A fitting choice.
Ive read the comics she is my favourite female sonic character XD
1. Blaze
2. Surge
3. Amy
P.S Love these we need more VS against Tommy
Bruh loki and tommie are so damn funny when it comes to mugen and im actually curious to see super sonic frontiers sprite and if you do find it loki try doing a vid about him also i kinda wanna see sonic base moveset😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😆😆😆
Aeezoom is a fusion of the fangame trio(Aeon, Nazo & Seelkadoom)
5:11
Omelette is an OC based off Eggman being upside down
Actually surge's super form is called powersurge
So please shadic all forms vs nazo so please I am your biggest fan in the world 🌎
Even with the patch, my game still crash. All I can do is watch you play, Keep up the good work.
some mugens crash when too much is happening
Lol, I guess loading characters wa too much. Well I'll take the L then.😅
@@LokiFES @Loki FES one more thing, I know it's been a long time since you played it but where did you get some of the characters at? From sonikku tsk's sonic mugen.
Like. Hyper sonic vs hyper Shadow
2:25 actually tangle was referenced in sonic frontiers, sonic literally talks about her in the game
Surge vs shadic plz and shadic vs nazo plz I would love to see it keep up the good work
2:24 EEEEEEH! Tangle was refrenced in Frontiers.
By the way man, i may have a few mods for you to get on this that might be interesting to look at. Im sure you remember these gals.
Somebody mention Sugre The Tenrec? Now you got my attention!
IDW Comics are amazing. But Archie Sonic? Whew. Sonic Universe was amazing I don’t care. So much in the comics I needed in the games
Glad to see Surge is as bonkers as I thought she'd be in this MUGEN.
Kudos to the Surge spite and her animations in general, she looks fantastic in motion and when in play.
Not to mention, her fan made Super Form looks so dope!
Plus, those Dragon Ball Super and Naruto specials are just the cherry on top.
Surge's powerset was just begging for her to be in a fighting game, and this works perfectly for her.
It's stuff like this which DESPERATELY makes me want to see the IDW characters in actual Sonic games.
I highly recommend reading the IDW Sonic Comics when you got some free time, Loki.
For a long while after how mid Sonic Forces, was and the "Ugly Movie Sonic" these comics were the only shining beacon in the dark for a long while.
damn really wish i could play this on linux but don't think i can
i’m glad tommy is here
makes it better
You having False Super Sonic and Ultra Instinct Omen Sonic making me think that Ultra Instinct Omen was a call back in the series to the actual False Super Saiyan form. 🤔 not sure if Lord Slug is canon or not but if so hey. Might be on to something.
Hey loki fes can you please do hyper shadow and hyper sonic vs ayumi and exslayer
Dude you need to do this fight, Sonic and scoruge vs Sonic Black and Sonic.exe its choas and I love it.
you summoned god when you said Sonic.exe
they now have super amy
SEGA can’t use any Archie characters if they wanted to because of that douchebag man child, Penders. Any hope of seeing them in a game is on hold until he dies and won’t be able to press lawsuit charges.
The IDW characters are fair game though. And I would love to play as Whisper in particular. I seriously wish you’ll give those comics a read because they are FIRE!
might do that
Bro said "yes i am, im shadic so im him by definition"
I want to see tails exe and ultra ego shadow vs hyper sonic. or knuckles and tails vs sonic all forms and classic sonic
Tails.exe is a different breed of fox while hyper sonic and knuckles are just built different
can you pleas do hyper sonic and hyper shadow vs ayuim and hyper shadic
Surge is basically Scrouge but less cringe n more insane imo. Even tho I doubt Surge will get an official Super Form in IDW (Especially if Iizuka still on that "Females can't transform into Super" bs), still imagine Super Sonic vs Super Surge (Something Archie should have done for Super Sonic vs Super Scrouge)
he never said females cant go super, he said female HEDGEHOGS cant, i mean blaze exists. also amy has a super form in origin
@@reggielacey2235 Not really. He only stated that Male hedgehogs can only go super which means he excluded not just females hedgehogs, but other species too. Yes Blaze can turn Super, but that's thxs to the Sol Emeralds and not Choas Emeralds. Also yes I'm already well aware that Iizuka finally change his tune and let Amy go Super for Origins. Kinda wish they at least either change her into gold Super form or at least spike up glowing rosa but at least she got her Super n Hyper form. Hopefully Superstars also let's Amy have her Super form and improve her look. Also even tho Iizuka n Sonic Team now let Amy have her Super form in the classics, still I wonder if they will let her have her Super form for the Modern cast along with Sonic's friends. I doubt this but it would be cool to see Super, Amy, Tails, and Knuxs help Super Sonic fight off a final boss. Maybe in Froniters Update 3 or a new modern title or something
@chillihog1543 still disproves the females can't go super thing
@@chillihog1543 also thats not even true because tails and knuckles as well as metal sonic
@@reggielacey2235Ik. In Classic tho, yes. Modern tho, Tails n Knuxs had their chance to turn into Super in Heroes but Iizuka n team decided to give them sphere which that's bullcrap. Seriously what's with the Classic franchise giving Tails, Knuxs, and literally now Amy getting Super forms but for Modern, just the big 3 hedgehogs get Super forms (Yes Blaze can transform, but only with Sol Emeralds). Hell let's not forget about Mighty n Ray too since they got Super forms for Mania Plus. At least since IDW is now canon I guess, technically Metal did transform into his super state back when he design as Eggman. Plus in Frontiers, at least they let Knuxs say he could have gone Super and finish the job quicker. Hopefully in this era, they continue to change their tune and finally let the other Modern cast use the choas emeralds for once instead of finding more bs excuses of why Sonic's friends can't go Super besides the male hedgehogs.
surge is like a cannon scourge because scourge is not own by them one person came up with him now he dont work for the company and he took scourge with him and tried to sue them i think for making surge i think
We have to see shadic dbs vs sonic exe
You should do Shadic (DBZ) VS Sonic MUI and Shadow Ultra Ego
You don't understand that Shadic is him no matter how much mugens he goes to
In this world, you either got dRuGs or you don't exist.
We need a Surge plushie and a action figure
Surge is pretty cracked now that I'm seeing it
Lets go new video
Ay loki lets see if shadic can finally beat sonic.exe in his new Shadic (dbs)
Aight. Call me Willy Wonka, because I'm about to bring in the nerds. So Surge is a character made by Ian Flynn. The reason she looks so similar to Scourge is because Ian made him (but Ken Penders claimed ownership over him as he made "Evil Sonic", the character that Ian eventually evolved into Scourge when he took over). The name and identity of the character is intentionally made to reference Scourge. Surge, like Scourge, is meant to be an antagonist counterpart to Sonic, but Surge is more nuanced in the way she's written compared to Scourge. While Scourge is meant to be what Sonic would be if he was evil, Surge is kind of a deconstruction of Sonic rivals (no psp). She is beaten by Sonic easily despit having speed that matches his. It displays that it takes more than being fast to beat him, as Sonic has years of battle experience as well as many friends and rivals that can match his speed. Theres more to it, but i think ive gone on long enough. Thanks for reading this and please read the comics.
Okay Willy Wonka
shes not as fast as him
Surge vs Scourge. I want to see who is the superior Doppelganger of Sonic the Hedgehog
when i see a video from this channel instantly i came
Ayo
@@LokiFESno filter lmao
Loki the charged spin dash is the Light Speed mode.
trueee
@@LokiFES imagine if frontiers sonic was in mugen
There's also a smash ultimate mod where his moveset changed
Check out sonic delta for more information
I feel like we gotta see tails.exe vs ayumi or sonic.exe but give him so he can actually stand a chance maybe or maybe even ayumi with sonic.exe vs tails.exe
Tails.exe solos ayumi
@@bestgeneralinthegalaxy I’m sure of it I agree but like I feel like that would be cool to see for fun
@@Toga_Fan-mm5bq I agree it would be a good matchup
When i play mugen, i am the same as loki. He said that at 10:35 i think
Loki should make vid about dark sonic
Damn now I kinda want to see a Surge vs Ayumi match
NOOO AYUMI WILL LITERALLY BREAK SURGES SPINE DON'T DO IT
But a ayumi can't go super
I know Aeezoom, he's a Tri-fusion of Aeon, Seelkadoom, and Nazo on some Dragonball AF techs, I was wondering if him and Shadic DBS can settle who's the better fusion
Bro the would be a battle of gods hyper shadow vs sonic exe
hyper shadow solos everybody and everything
But imagine the battle bro big ass wet dream
The creation of eggman’s daughter became a trend because everyone thought Eggman’s head being upside down looked like a girl.
I actually think caulifia would be a good voice actor for surge
Hey, if you’re still open to matchup requests…
I’m kind of on a projectile kick. Any good zoners in your mugen roster?
if they made a official sonic fighting game, what characters would you put in it? For me, I got to pick my boy mighty
eggman without a mech suit
Ben got the right idea with Mighty
Do ayumi and cream vs hyper sonic and mui sonic so good
Can some pls tell why it keep saying error why I download the game and then play it pls help me
Amazing
Can someone tell me where to find the comics cuz this is my first time hearing about them
if you want to talk about OP characters try Super better Mario and Luigi my boys are gods they are underreacted and can beat almost any character, 1v1, 2v2, does not matter they will beat some checks.
actually surge is from IDW and could appear in a sonic game so long as the creater gives the thumbs up( and he worked on frontiers's story)
He's not the creater
also fun fact. the comics are canon now
😮
A matchup sonic exe and dark sonic vs hyper sonic and hyper shadow
gotta do surge vs sally
Oh cool they used my girl Vivian Reed for the lines
Those were taken from some comic dubs me and her were in for @MarioKartGamerDude.
I was Kitsunami in em. Whoever puts in Kit should add me in
If you hold down c wen you are using an sonic you will transform into light speed form
for real bro
Old Shadic vs sonow
Shadic solos
Aeezoom is the fusion of aeon and seelkadoom and nazo
Surge is the best character she looks good 💚💙
Surge and Scourge v. Sonic and idk Sally I guess
They need a mod for Surge with the Dinomo gear or whatever it’s called.
Dynamo Cage
It's about time Surge joins a mugen. Seriously, we need more Surge mods.
Is this mugen one large mod or a compilation? I wanna get into this, but want to filter out some of the mediocre stuff
compilation with a few i added
Surge vs scourge who wins (obv scourge mate I mean hyper scourge already takes the W)
Did you not see surges output she bodies Scourge
Me when sonic fans slander Mario even they can’t talk 0:18 9:05 also why did sonic actually carry shadic
Dang, I was really hoping Surge would have her Overdrive form although I guess with how crazy this mugen is she doesn't need it
Death egg robot vs Sonic all forms and Mario
Death egg robot can do the 1v2
But we got to see surge versus uhhhhhhhhh hero shadow
Yo Loki, Idk if you've used it yet but Base Shadic has an instant kill chaos control grab move that he can do with max meter and down+charge
surge vs shadow or knuckles
we need a Hyper Silver or Hyper Espio
Here we go again
is there a tierlist for this game if there is let me know
Does this game have controller support? Trying to play on steam deck
shadow vs dark sonic vs classlc sonic vs mario
How did you add Surge in? I cant figure out how
THEY SHOULD ADD KIT INTO THE GAME
Hyper sonic and mui sonic vs dbs shadic and ayumi
More plz
Wtf is actually happening in this video