@@molassesman4066 yeah gameplay wise, but story wise he's not doing much, I haven't played the game in a while but I'm pretty sure that there are some runs where he doesn't appear at all. (minus westopolis) Sonic is simply NOT the focus of the game and it's fine because it's not his to begin with
3:15 My interpretation was always that Sonic was letting Tails win to help him gain confidence. I saw some others post that theory as well and it makes sense for Sonic's character
@@feiradragon7915 Only in Windy Valley, or when he literally can't go on due to level gimmicks only Tails can load in. For similar reasons he keeps teleporting if you get too far ahead.
Honestly, I think it was just Sega doing that for the player's confidence. If you always got "you lost" or something, no matter how hard you tried, you'd be pretty pissed.
Sonic's characterisation in Black Knight is especially fondly remembered. Odd they got omitted, especially with 3d blast arguably being more obscure these days.
@@JackadooSmork I could be wrong but I don't think those are main stream sonic games, they're kinda cash grabs with characters you know so you'll buy it, like Sonic and Sega All Star Racing was my absolute favorite racing game when I was younger, but hardly any real plot to count.
The fact that Sonic 06 is so low on this list makes sense mephiles the dark is just powerful enough smart enough and evil enough that Sonic needs all his friends to win and even then he didn't quite win at the end because the timeline was erased
@@TheAzulmagia Fr. It would really give his story more girth if he learned that Iblis is sealed in Elise and this gave him more motivation to protect her from Eggman
Didn't quite win because the timeline was erased? I'd say he won so hard the big bad was erased from history. Game still sucks, Sonic still dies. Zero star emeralds awarded.
For the tier list purposes, I do think he makes it seem like a bad thing. Sure, in some of the games Sonic does it to the point of being incompetent, but not all the time.
How was Sonic careless for not stopping the missile in Adventure 1? He was in an entirely different place. How was he supposed to know? That doesn't make sense. And that happens before the Egg Viper boss, not after
@@Maubari They’re terrible writers. I don’t know why they made Sonic have such a corny personality now, including Tails too. It was obvious from the start of Sonic Adventure that Sonic will have a more mature storytelling and appeal to older audience. Sega was trying to emulate Mega Man X. By giving Sonic green eyes to match X’s. Shadow being based off Zero. Wished they stuck to that route.
@@Maubaribro they are not bad writers they just write differently they literally got death threats and attacks just because. I don't think they deserve all the hate
2:10 not to mention as Hyper Sonic if you press the jump button again while in mid-air it causes a flash that briefly covers the whole screen and kills every enemy on the screen. That is really powerful
In regards to SA1, Sonic had no way to know about the situation in Station Square because he was in Mystic Ruins following Tikal's spirit through Lost World. His fight with Eggman was a while after Tails's, not before
Well mario is going to end up typical the majority, not a single worthless (at least if is luigi's mansion if he mentions it), and the elite would be new super mario bros because of mega mushroom and just using it to destroy all bosses including bowser and bowser jr., mario galaxy for defeating bowser's plans of conquering the universe and managing to save the universe, new super mario bros 2 because of the almighty golden mario that also destroys bosses and just a money maker that you would ended up with 99 lives without glitches, bowser's fury on fighting bowser's strongest yet form (i'm assuming since i haven't play it yet), mario odyssey because he can possess all creatures who doesn't have a hat or helmet, making him have more power thanks to his partner cappy, mario wonder is between typical and elite because the start of the game he saw what bowser was looking at, which is the wonder flower, mario tried to grab the wonder flower but bowser's reached it first, if mario grabs it, it just ruins bowser's plans for the very beginning and the game would not even happen which that would be funny. (If there was mention like RPG and tactics mario games there would be a bunch of elite because the main villains of those game are like stronger than bowser or their plans is even more evil than bowser that bowser denies it and fights against it (Because he wants to conquer the world, or if they mess with his minions or his son, bowser rages on the enemy)).
I actually kind of disagree with sonic 1 , to me at least his character was one of the main selling points of the game , the fact that he was "cool" compared to mario and other characters at the time , so personally I don't think that "typical hero" really fits him x) Really fun video btw !!!!
That’s actually a pretty good point, you’re right, the deliberate choice on his cooler personality doesn’t make him your average every day hero (like Mario). I was referring to typical within the parameters of the series, but you’re right, compared to other heroes he’s almost always ELITE!
6:55 It is not optional between who wins the battle when you choose characters and he also needs help to save the day. Don't think he deserves the elite.
To be fair, you kinda have to be nitpicky when ranking the main protagonist of a series. Otherwise you get all high tiers because of the story revolving around the protagonist's experiences.
Yeah, that's something I noticed about Sonic '06 is that Sonic kind of... doesn't do anything? Like, he runs around, Stops Eggman, rescues Elise, repeats ad nasuem until Mephiles give him the old Makankosappo. I think the Sonic Battle games are kind of in the same boat, where Sonic just kind of shows up at the end and goes "Woah, that's a pretty scary looking final boss!" *BONK* As an aside, I actually kind of like the idea that Sonic literally has no idea Silver is from the future. I don't think anyone ever TELLS him.
I like how Sonic relies on his friends more. Having more playable characters is great! Plus i just really love character dynamics, and I wish real life could be less lonely.
@@jajao4943 nah forces 2d stages are less then mid they're fucking chores with how shitty classic plays, at least generations classic has actual physics and WALK UP THE BEGINNING RAMP AT CHEMICAL PLANT
I wonder how a Tierlist about rouge the bat would be, kind of an interesting situation since she was a really reoccurring character yet is very neutral in sides wiles also not being as significant to the plot as our other characters
Sonic Rush truly defined what the Boost Formula is, while Sonic Advance 2 introduced the gradual boost mechanic. NGL I love me some technicalities, cause it can be both correct and incorrect! 🤣🤣🤣 Anyway, I’m glad to be here for another “how useful is” video!
Also sonic isn't technically the only playable one in Unleashed. Chip is briefly playable for part of the boss battle. Chip is part of why Dark Gaia is gone. And Sonic's cocky behavior is part of why this happened.
@@JohnDoe-dw3hj I'm just saying he's rated a bit high compared to some other entries due to being the 'only playable character' but Chip does a lot against Dark Gaia. Then again I guess Sonic helped him remember and kept him safe in his vulnerable state. I was saying his cockiness led to this because of Eggman turning him into a werehog after Sonic paused and said a mocking remark. He seemed to let his guard down. I may be stretching a bit because maybe he was just showing mercy to a man who seemed to have no other way to fight back as he was cornered, though. Some other games had Sonic do the work while the others sat around. His rating in Forces is odd considering that the other characters fighting the clones does literally nothing for the plot. They weren't trying to attack Sonic while he was taking on the boss that made them all disappear, so they had no reason to distract them. Plus the fact that the clones DISAPPEAR right after Sonic defeats the boss. If they were actually defending something that'd be useful, but they aren't.
11:33 You're not the only one who wanted a hero to be in worthless in a certain game so badly. For me, I thought for a fact that I wanted Kirby (Squeak Squad) to be in worthless due to his naivety being at its worst thanks to going on a rampage over some piece of cake, such as blaming Dedede for taking it, and thinking that Meta Knight took it when he was making sure Dark Nebula didn't get released. But after Dark Nebula was released and possessed Daroach, Kirby did end up freeing Daroach defeat Dark Nebula at the very end, thus making me put him slightly higher, as he'll be in a ranking of barely wins.
Okay, what's so bad of him cracking jokes in Colors? The situation didn't demand him to be serious, he was just having fun on what seemed like a pretty regular advanture for him.
To be fair, in SA1 I always thought it was always like a story being told in multiple perspectives. Also in the Tails it's near impossible to lose to Sonic, He will stop to wait for you to catch up if you fall behind. The final tails level aka Eggman, he does not wait for you to catch up.
You dare say generations classic not good when forces classic is right there not making it up the beginning ramp at chemical plant and having a pathetic spindash? Generations spindash can traverse an entire section in the white void, generations has vibrant expansive backgrounds and multiple planes and dynamic camera angles, and good controls.
3:15 Tails is lying in this version of events. Because you are seeing the story through Tails perspective this is basically the little kid saying:”Oh yeah and when Eggman showed up, I talked mad shit to him and Sonic was like ‘yeah Tails, you’re awesome!’” The only things that are accurate is when Tails is by himself. I’m not making this up either as you can see Knuckles and Sonic both see Tails the exact same way in their crossover story. This is the case with most of the characters but Gamma and Sonic who are all telling the story from a biased perspective
In defense of Sonic in Adventure, he ended up landing in the mystic ruins while Eggman ended up in station square so there wasn't anything he could do to stop the missile. Although him defeating eggman in his ending didn't matter since as far we know Eggman had no plans left at that point beyond trying to create a new one.
Fun Fact: you can become super sonic in sonic 1 on mobile you use no save mode press all the letters in the sega logo and put 2 fingers in the down of screen and then you gotta enter codes with the sound test set chaos emeralds to 7 and you can unlock super sonic you just need 50 rings and if you want you can enter another code for debug mode
The thing about Sonic 06 tho is that SONIC is the one who convinces elise to blow out the flame... meaning he's also the reason none of it ever happens. So thats gotta go up a tier at least maybe
Not mainline, but I was shocked how much I liked Sonic and the Black Knight. Easily elite for me. Would love to see the spinoffs from you. Curious about Sonic Battle
- Sonic and the Black Knight? Sonic is pretty elite there and bested The Top 3 knights (Shadow , Knuckles and Blaze) - Sonic and the secret rings? - That RPG Sonic game?
12:47 "But the new customizable character is the one that breaks Sonic out." What do you mean? Sonic broke himself out. The custom character was just there.
I feel like being labeled “sidekick” whenever he has help and plays an equal role in taking down the main threat puts him at typical hero rather than sidekick. For SA2 I get it, but in Heroes, 06, and Rush Adventure he is needed either as the main contributor in the group or as an equal to the others helping him. That’s not a sidekick, just because Batman have Superman helping him once in a while doesn’t bump him down to sidekick in that situation, he’s still Batman.
3:08 to be fair, Sonic runs way slower while Tails isn't looking, which can be interpreted as him trying to boost Tails' confidence up to take his role as a partner or even his own hero rather than a mere sidekick 6:20 also also, the main differences I'd say Sonic and Blaze have are: He is faster in general (knowing his title, he better), he has the Homing attack, that allows him to convert any and all momentum he doesn't want into forward momentum without a target, and some decent tricks after jumping off a spring (a slight boost upwards that can be reversed to boost diagonally in either direction and the roundhouse kick he's known for), while Blaze instead of that speed, can stay underwater 1.5 times longer than him, has a form of glide, that she can use to halt vertical momentum only, but also use to reach areas sonic would take slightly longer faster, and flashy tricks off a spring (a massive boost upwards, which can potentially skip whole areas, and an incredibly fast movement forward, that stops abruptly after a short distance, that with enough practice can be canceled to keep that momentum) tl;dr, Sonic is faster overall, Blaze has a higher skill ceiling to reach better times than him and lower skill floor, to allow people to mess up more given her tools. 7:42 Rush Adventure has it's ups and downs, while the gameplay as Sonic is relatively the same, I only saw Sonic's spring tricks getting some startup lag (and I think the roundhouse kick gains a little more height idk), but that's about it. 11:54 but some more equally than others *cough cough* Knuckles can fly and Sonic can launch himself forward like he had his usual speed *cough*
Sonic in Generations is even above elite, it should had another tier just for himself, he is the ONLY one to not get caught by time eater somehow, then he just re-activate important zones, revives all of his friends, restoring everything to normal and don't forget there was 2 game characters and sonic was both of them, solid god tier and absolute savior
I like when Sonic is more of a sidekick tbh on the games which emphasise the characters being in a team. All of the characters have their own roles, but they were all equals. I prefer that to just Sonic doing everything and everyone else being useless.
I always thought Tails’ finale took place while Sonic was in the Lost World stage and flashback. Then, Eggman, humiliated by Tails, decides to retreat to his base, and Sonic sees the opportunity as an early Christmas present of potential robot wreckage.
If I were to make the Sonic games, here’s what I would do. (Just a thing I’ve always wanted to do) Sonic 1: Typical Hero Sonic 2: Elite Sonic 3: Worthless Sonic & Knuckles: Sidekick Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Elite Sonic CD: Typical Hero Sonic 3D Blast: Typical Hero Sonic Adventure: Typical Hero Sonic Adventure 2: Sidekick Sonic Advanced 1 & 2: Typical Hero Sonic Advanced 3: Elite Part 2 Coming soon Also, if you want a reasoning behind why, comment ‘why’.
Personally for Frontiers Sonic being more mature, I like to believe the events of forces and the IDW comics (mainly the metal virus arc) opened his eyes to the possibility that he needs to be more careful and serious, and as the IDW is confirmed to be canon, the metal virus must have been the final thing that caused Sonic to be as mature as he is in Frontiers, yes, he still has a sense of humour, but he's certainly more serious, similar to how serious he was during the metal virus arc, so that's my reasoning for Sonic being as mature has he is in Frontiers
Team Sonic literally were the main force fighting Neo Metal though. He also leads Team Sonic (obvs) You could say similar for other Super fights nears the end, like in Advance 2 he saved Vanilla.
Also tbf Shadow didn't do most of the work to save the world, he did a lot of the work to destroy it. And unlike Sonic he wasn't used to the super form enough to not "die".
Let me make one thing clear about Unleashed. If there was a spot above elite, Sonic would go there. Yes, you could argue the entire planet broke apart because of him, but yet again, he’s the only one who can fix it. He was the one in possession of the chaos emeralds the whole time. Plus, there was no rule that said Sonic could get back the chaos emeralds after the planet was put back together. Essentially, he willingly sacrificed part of himself and potentially never go Super Sonic again in order to fix his mistakes.
I don't understand why you gotta put down some games (like 3D Blast, 06 and Forces) before talking about Sonic's role in them, it's such a turnoff, it's not even about them being games I like or dislike, it's just distasteful at this point imo. Getting to the point immediately about 06's story (which, speaking of, it ain't even confusing, it's REALLY straight forward if you pay attention) instead of having to go through Mandatory 06 Slunder Number 347891 is such a better alternative...
I was expecting him to be the lowest tier in Shadow the Hedgehog. I was not surprised.
Why's that?
@@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 because he does basically nothing
And he can only fight normies due to player 2 limits @Gairsh98
@@molassesman4066 yeah gameplay wise, but story wise he's not doing much, I haven't played the game in a while but I'm pretty sure that there are some runs where he doesn't appear at all. (minus westopolis)
Sonic is simply NOT the focus of the game and it's fine because it's not his to begin with
3:15 My interpretation was always that Sonic was letting Tails win to help him gain confidence. I saw some others post that theory as well and it makes sense for Sonic's character
I’ve never seen that theory, but I like it a lot!
The fact that Sonic will stop and wait for Tails if he gets too far ahead adds to that theory.
@@feiradragon7915 Only in Windy Valley, or when he literally can't go on due to level gimmicks only Tails can load in. For similar reasons he keeps teleporting if you get too far ahead.
@@jeremymklingerSonic wasn’t there to stop the missile
Honestly, I think it was just Sega doing that for the player's confidence.
If you always got "you lost" or something, no matter how hard you tried, you'd be pretty pissed.
I’ll just have to assume that Sonic and the secret rings & Sonic and the black knight are automatic elite tiers
Sonic's characterisation in Black Knight is especially fondly remembered.
Odd they got omitted, especially with 3d blast arguably being more obscure these days.
Same for those two games aswell
No Dream Team either. Or any of the racing games.
@@JackadooSmork I could be wrong but I don't think those are main stream sonic games, they're kinda cash grabs with characters you know so you'll buy it, like Sonic and Sega All Star Racing was my absolute favorite racing game when I was younger, but hardly any real plot to count.
@ATG737Boom isn't a mainstream game
The fact that Sonic 06 is so low on this list makes sense mephiles the dark is just powerful enough smart enough and evil enough that Sonic needs all his friends to win and even then he didn't quite win at the end because the timeline was erased
Sonic also never really finds out anything about Iblis or Mephiles because he's too busy saving Elise 500 times.
And he literally dies.
@@TheAzulmagia Fr. It would really give his story more girth if he learned that Iblis is sealed in Elise and this gave him more motivation to protect her from Eggman
Didn't quite win because the timeline was erased? I'd say he won so hard the big bad was erased from history.
Game still sucks, Sonic still dies. Zero star emeralds awarded.
@@CptJistuce The entire timeline is erased, not just mephiles, so Sonic and every other characters is also erased, so no one has won
*"Rely on his friends"*
Should he do it all himself???
Nope, relying on his friends is a good thing on the games, just not for this tier list
@@panetoneninjacanal2692ok
yes
@@panetoneninjacanal2692 that's what I'm basically implying.
For the tier list purposes, I do think he makes it seem like a bad thing. Sure, in some of the games Sonic does it to the point of being incompetent, but not all the time.
Ranking Mania Sonic as a sidekick and failing to mention the fact he single handedly saves everyone with the Egg Reverie true ending is mad.
How was Sonic careless for not stopping the missile in Adventure 1? He was in an entirely different place. How was he supposed to know? That doesn't make sense. And that happens before the Egg Viper boss, not after
I agree. He didn't know about that at all. Tails just happens to be in Station Square when that happened.
Its great character development for Tails.
@@TheDayd111returns And then they fucked it up in Forces... Fuck Pontac and Graff.
@@Maubari They’re terrible writers. I don’t know why they made Sonic have such a corny personality now, including Tails too. It was obvious from the start of Sonic Adventure that Sonic will have a more mature storytelling and appeal to older audience. Sega was trying to emulate Mega Man X. By giving Sonic green eyes to match X’s. Shadow being based off Zero. Wished they stuck to that route.
@@Maubaribro they are not bad writers they just write differently they literally got death threats and attacks just because. I don't think they deserve all the hate
@@TheDayd111returns Dude, Sonic making jokes is the best version of Sonic. A "mature" and "serious" Sonic is just Shadow but blue.
What about Tails Adventures and Tails’s Sky Patrol?
Sonic: He Gone.
Knuckles: He Gone.
Tails: ELITE!!!
when did tails have anything to do with this
@@SonictheSpyHog1ye
@@SonictheSpyHog1 because their games in the franchise. Just saying.
Can you rank wario next
These two are not mainline
2:10 not to mention as Hyper Sonic if you press the jump button again while in mid-air it causes a flash that briefly covers the whole screen and kills every enemy on the screen. That is really powerful
I always put that attack as the predecessor of the homing attack.
We got sonic before meta knight 💀
And gta 6
How useless is meta knight in every sonic game
I don't see the problem.
Meta Knight has only 2 tiers: Elite and He Gone.
@@CaptHayfeverHe’s just kinda ok in Epic Yarn.
He probably deserves F tier for Sonic 06, since all he does is allow the princess to get captured multiple times and then literally dies.
How useless Kamek is in every Mario game.
The Sonic Heroes ranking sounds like it's from, someone who didn't fight Metal Madness.
@@foodking9522 correct!
@@jeremymklinger He fought Metal Overlord though. It’s just Metal Madness, but with wings
I just thought Sonic always elite, because he's the protagonist of every game. And this is his franchise but now I'm intrigued.
Sonic is the protagonist but he's essential the role of a shonen protagonist
He needs his friends help
In regards to SA1, Sonic had no way to know about the situation in Station Square because he was in Mystic Ruins following Tikal's spirit through Lost World. His fight with Eggman was a while after Tails's, not before
We need mario if we got sonic
Luigi’s Mansion Games: Worthless
And Kirby and Link.
Well mario is going to end up typical the majority, not a single worthless (at least if is luigi's mansion if he mentions it), and the elite would be new super mario bros because of mega mushroom and just using it to destroy all bosses including bowser and bowser jr., mario galaxy for defeating bowser's plans of conquering the universe and managing to save the universe, new super mario bros 2 because of the almighty golden mario that also destroys bosses and just a money maker that you would ended up with 99 lives without glitches, bowser's fury on fighting bowser's strongest yet form (i'm assuming since i haven't play it yet), mario odyssey because he can possess all creatures who doesn't have a hat or helmet, making him have more power thanks to his partner cappy, mario wonder is between typical and elite because the start of the game he saw what bowser was looking at, which is the wonder flower, mario tried to grab the wonder flower but bowser's reached it first, if mario grabs it, it just ruins bowser's plans for the very beginning and the game would not even happen which that would be funny. (If there was mention like RPG and tactics mario games there would be a bunch of elite because the main villains of those game are like stronger than bowser or their plans is even more evil than bowser that bowser denies it and fights against it (Because he wants to conquer the world, or if they mess with his minions or his son, bowser rages on the enemy)).
Super Princess Peach: Man in distress
He'd be worthless in spp and lm games
10:21 did I hear that right?? I thought everybody liked the classic Sonic levels
Yes. This guy has some of the hottest takes ever. The only time Classic Sonic was bad was Forces.
I dont like em
3:35
He's not careless, he wanted to leave tales to stop the situation so he could live up to his full potential
Agreed. The Adventure games are so important to Tail's development because Sonic stopped doing everything for him.
2:46 Someone finally said it.
I actually kind of disagree with sonic 1 , to me at least his character was one of the main selling points of the game , the fact that he was "cool" compared to mario and other characters at the time , so personally I don't think that "typical hero" really fits him x)
Really fun video btw !!!!
That’s actually a pretty good point, you’re right, the deliberate choice on his cooler personality doesn’t make him your average every day hero (like Mario). I was referring to typical within the parameters of the series, but you’re right, compared to other heroes he’s almost always ELITE!
0:36 I never liked how “lifeless” sonic looked. Like he can’t stop thinking about why he’s purple instead of blue.
Thats not purple, thats anpther shade of blue
He has a sorta cornflower blue look to me
The hell you mean lifeless. It was their first attempt at a sonic game. 💀
At the sacrifice of originality, now let's see Mario ranked in every Mario game.
Almost impossible
6:55 It is not optional between who wins the battle when you choose characters and he also needs help to save the day. Don't think he deserves the elite.
^
No Sonic and the Secret Rings an Sonic and the Black Knight? Forgotten or not worth mention?
I dont think it counts as mainline
@@knoxnotcool3884 it's main line it was creation by sonic team and on the sonic twitter account they said it was main line
He is absolutely elite in both games by default.
Also sonic battle
Sonic Chronicles missing as well
For sonic rush, maybe I'm trippin but isn't it blaze that actually won against sonic ? Since she get the last sol emerald afterward ?
It changes depending on which story you play (blaze wins if playing her story, sonic does in his story), so in universe it was probably a stalemate
10:24 tf you mean "not very good 2d levels", those were the best part imo😂
Imagine ranking based on " oh he has help going super" or " there's multiple character" or whatever
To be fair, you kinda have to be nitpicky when ranking the main protagonist of a series. Otherwise you get all high tiers because of the story revolving around the protagonist's experiences.
2:08 hyper sonic isn’t faster. The after images make him feel faster, but he’s the same speed as super sonic
His sort of homing attack makes him very fast though. Speaking of which, this might cannonically explain how he learned to do the homing attack.
Within the actual cannon of the series, Hyper is way faster
8:54 THE ONE PIIEEECE! THE ONE PIECE IS REEAAAAL!!
Can we get much higher 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
6:16 I don’t think it’s fair to put Sonic in worthless when he does just as much as everybody else that got put in barely does anything
It's because shadow does everything in the game, the rest of the characters are worthless
5:22 "you can now play as cream!"
Sounds like "you can now play as luigi!-"
Yeah, that's something I noticed about Sonic '06 is that Sonic kind of... doesn't do anything? Like, he runs around, Stops Eggman, rescues Elise, repeats ad nasuem until Mephiles give him the old Makankosappo. I think the Sonic Battle games are kind of in the same boat, where Sonic just kind of shows up at the end and goes "Woah, that's a pretty scary looking final boss!" *BONK*
As an aside, I actually kind of like the idea that Sonic literally has no idea Silver is from the future. I don't think anyone ever TELLS him.
Sonic and the Secret Rings & Black Knight:
Are we a joke to you?
I mean it makes sense since it was made by Sonic team but it's not Canon or mentioned in the sonic series
Secret rings was mentioned in IDW alongside Werehog @@MfuwoMathebula-d9f
@@ddlcfan2763 i don't know how canon the IDW comics are
@@om.i IDW is canon
@MfuwoMathebula
He references them in generations
"I Hate Sonic Forces"
- Jeremy Klinger Every time "Sonic Forces" is mentioned in Every Ranking Useless Video.
I honestly think “hate” is a strong word for the game. Like, don’t get me wrong, I dislike it as well, but I think it’s more so mediocre.
11:26 fallen kingdom ahh fall 💀💀💀
lmao
Sonic is either basically useless or the character that saves everyone and everything
Ok so should sonic have saved the earth from being destroyed all by himself?? Just bc he needs some help doesn’t make him worthless.
No it does
Sonics worthless
Sonic has 0 AURA
He sucks if he needs help
@efloss please go to an asylum
I like how Sonic relies on his friends more. Having more playable characters is great! Plus i just really love character dynamics, and I wish real life could be less lonely.
0:00 name the song please
Metal harbor music from sonic adventure 2.
@ thank you
@@KhaledKetata yeah no problem.
I’ve been waiting for you to do stuff like this
(Also please do how useless Mario is in every game)
5:54 what clip is that FROM???
The opening cutscene from shadow the hedgehog.
@Tailsfan5338 Thx!
@ yeah no problem.
Love how he just ignores the fact that his friends help him because he's fighting literal gods
12:18 wait, WHAT!? That doesn't make any sense. Mania plays the same as S3&K, but you decide to put it lower??? Madness.
Me looking at the title when I see it on my For You Page: 😡
Me after actually watching the video: 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
"Not very good 2D levels"
You better be mixing up Generations with Forces...
Exactly, no way he actually believes that.
He is right, the classic stages in both games are really mid
@@jajao4943 nah forces 2d stages are less then mid they're fucking chores with how shitty classic plays, at least generations classic has actual physics and WALK UP THE BEGINNING RAMP AT CHEMICAL PLANT
Sonic will always be the goat
The *hedgehog
.
*whacker55
@@___________0Z0XYeah we don’t want confusion with a certain Fast food chain that is NOT the goat.
Blud hasn't heard about shadow the hedgehog
Make a video about how useless is Ridley in the Metroid series please!
Can you make a video of every single sonic 3 movie toys? I really love your mario movie review 🥺
I was actually thinking about that! Once a majority of them are out and readily available I’ll definitely try and scoop em all up!
YAYYYYYY😄
SA2 in sidekick made me skip a beat bc it’s my favorite sonic game, but sidekick is the most accurate description 😂😂
I wonder how a Tierlist about rouge the bat would be, kind of an interesting situation since she was a really reoccurring character yet is very neutral in sides wiles also not being as significant to the plot as our other characters
Sonic Rush truly defined what the Boost Formula is, while Sonic Advance 2 introduced the gradual boost mechanic. NGL I love me some technicalities, cause it can be both correct and incorrect! 🤣🤣🤣 Anyway, I’m glad to be here for another “how useful is” video!
Also sonic isn't technically the only playable one in Unleashed. Chip is briefly playable for part of the boss battle. Chip is part of why Dark Gaia is gone. And Sonic's cocky behavior is part of why this happened.
I don't see how his cocky behaviour lead him to stand there
@@JohnDoe-dw3hj I'm just saying he's rated a bit high compared to some other entries due to being the 'only playable character' but Chip does a lot against Dark Gaia. Then again I guess Sonic helped him remember and kept him safe in his vulnerable state. I was saying his cockiness led to this because of Eggman turning him into a werehog after Sonic paused and said a mocking remark. He seemed to let his guard down. I may be stretching a bit because maybe he was just showing mercy to a man who seemed to have no other way to fight back as he was cornered, though. Some other games had Sonic do the work while the others sat around. His rating in Forces is odd considering that the other characters fighting the clones does literally nothing for the plot. They weren't trying to attack Sonic while he was taking on the boss that made them all disappear, so they had no reason to distract them. Plus the fact that the clones DISAPPEAR right after Sonic defeats the boss. If they were actually defending something that'd be useful, but they aren't.
DID SOMEONE MENTIONED ONE PIECE 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥 8:53
THE ONE PIECE IS REAL
I finished binge watching this series yesterday and this couldn't come out at more of a perfect timing
Sonic adventure was elite gameplay. So many good memories from that game
11:33 You're not the only one who wanted a hero to be in worthless in a certain game so badly. For me, I thought for a fact that I wanted Kirby (Squeak Squad) to be in worthless due to his naivety being at its worst thanks to going on a rampage over some piece of cake, such as blaming Dedede for taking it, and thinking that Meta Knight took it when he was making sure Dark Nebula didn't get released. But after Dark Nebula was released and possessed Daroach, Kirby did end up freeing Daroach defeat Dark Nebula at the very end, thus making me put him slightly higher, as he'll be in a ranking of barely wins.
13:06 Naw Mr Needle Mouse is Wild 💀
Okay, what's so bad of him cracking jokes in Colors? The situation didn't demand him to be serious, he was just having fun on what seemed like a pretty regular advanture for him.
FR BRUH
9:48 I've never seen sonic laugh like that 😅
Gonna be honest, I think we can all agree that Ian Flynn’s writing might turn the Sonic series around in a good way.
To be fair, in SA1 I always thought it was always like a story being told in multiple perspectives.
Also in the Tails it's near impossible to lose to Sonic, He will stop to wait for you to catch up if you fall behind. The final tails level aka Eggman, he does not wait for you to catch up.
He was gone in 2 games in Tails’ two games
You dare say generations classic not good when forces classic is right there not making it up the beginning ramp at chemical plant and having a pathetic spindash? Generations spindash can traverse an entire section in the white void, generations has vibrant expansive backgrounds and multiple planes and dynamic camera angles, and good controls.
Now we got the Blu blue himself. Lol
Blue Blur I meant. Lol
12:13 he also can do the s3&k insta sheild and the scd boost if you get enough medalions
There’s medallions???
@@Potatogod3120 if you do the special stages in the check points
3:15 Tails is lying in this version of events. Because you are seeing the story through Tails perspective this is basically the little kid saying:”Oh yeah and when Eggman showed up, I talked mad shit to him and Sonic was like ‘yeah Tails, you’re awesome!’”
The only things that are accurate is when Tails is by himself.
I’m not making this up either as you can see Knuckles and Sonic both see Tails the exact same way in their crossover story.
This is the case with most of the characters but Gamma and Sonic who are all telling the story from a biased perspective
Eggman's not making the aliens his slaves in Colors. He's using them as a power source.
I have noticed that Sonic and the seven rings and Black Knight are omitted from a lot of these lists. (Sonic, Tails, Knuckle, Amy, EggMan and Shadow).
In defense of Sonic in Adventure, he ended up landing in the mystic ruins while Eggman ended up in station square so there wasn't anything he could do to stop the missile. Although him defeating eggman in his ending didn't matter since as far we know Eggman had no plans left at that point beyond trying to create a new one.
Fun Fact: you can become super sonic in sonic 1 on mobile you use no save mode press all the letters in the sega logo and put 2 fingers in the down of screen and then you gotta enter codes with the sound test set chaos emeralds to 7 and you can unlock super sonic you just need 50 rings and if you want you can enter another code for debug mode
The Nintendo Version: How Worthless Is Mario In Every Mario Game?
That would be VERY DIFFICULT!!!
However, him being the worst character in Smash Brawl and 3D World are the easiest “Barely Gets It Done” tier.
The thing about Sonic 06 tho is that SONIC is the one who convinces elise to blow out the flame... meaning he's also the reason none of it ever happens. So thats gotta go up a tier at least maybe
Not mainline, but I was shocked how much I liked Sonic and the Black Knight. Easily elite for me. Would love to see the spinoffs from you. Curious about Sonic Battle
Dude i have been binging these kinds of videos all day 😭
- Sonic and the Black Knight? Sonic is pretty elite there and bested The Top 3 knights (Shadow , Knuckles and Blaze)
- Sonic and the secret rings?
- That RPG Sonic game?
12:47
"But the new customizable character is the one that breaks Sonic out."
What do you mean? Sonic broke himself out. The custom character was just there.
We’ve been waiting for this one
I feel like being labeled “sidekick” whenever he has help and plays an equal role in taking down the main threat puts him at typical hero rather than sidekick. For SA2 I get it, but in Heroes, 06, and Rush Adventure he is needed either as the main contributor in the group or as an equal to the others helping him. That’s not a sidekick, just because Batman have Superman helping him once in a while doesn’t bump him down to sidekick in that situation, he’s still Batman.
Great video! Could you do Blaze next?
3:08 to be fair, Sonic runs way slower while Tails isn't looking, which can be interpreted as him trying to boost Tails' confidence up to take his role as a partner or even his own hero rather than a mere sidekick
6:20 also also, the main differences I'd say Sonic and Blaze have are:
He is faster in general (knowing his title, he better), he has the Homing attack, that allows him to convert any and all momentum he doesn't want into forward momentum without a target, and some decent tricks after jumping off a spring (a slight boost upwards that can be reversed to boost diagonally in either direction and the roundhouse kick he's known for),
while Blaze instead of that speed, can stay underwater 1.5 times longer than him, has a form of glide, that she can use to halt vertical momentum only, but also use to reach areas sonic would take slightly longer faster, and flashy tricks off a spring (a massive boost upwards, which can potentially skip whole areas, and an incredibly fast movement forward, that stops abruptly after a short distance, that with enough practice can be canceled to keep that momentum)
tl;dr, Sonic is faster overall, Blaze has a higher skill ceiling to reach better times than him and lower skill floor, to allow people to mess up more given her tools.
7:42 Rush Adventure has it's ups and downs, while the gameplay as Sonic is relatively the same, I only saw Sonic's spring tricks getting some startup lag (and I think the roundhouse kick gains a little more height idk), but that's about it.
11:54 but some more equally than others *cough cough* Knuckles can fly and Sonic can launch himself forward like he had his usual speed *cough*
Between 06 and the Rivals games, it’s really funny that Sonic was just having an alright time while Shadow and Silver were dealing with the real plot
The random "elite" from advanced warfare drops got me
I literary got a sonic ad in while watching this video.
Sonic in Generations is even above elite, it should had another tier just for himself, he is the ONLY one to not get caught by time eater somehow, then he just re-activate important zones, revives all of his friends, restoring everything to normal and don't forget there was 2 game characters and sonic was both of them, solid god tier and absolute savior
that should have been covered in the video bruh. All bro said was that the gameplay was good and the characters did nothing. I do agree tho.
I like when Sonic is more of a sidekick tbh on the games which emphasise the characters being in a team. All of the characters have their own roles, but they were all equals. I prefer that to just Sonic doing everything and everyone else being useless.
4:26
There's a little known youtuber that explains exactly that. His name's Dunkey. Idk if you've heard of him
I always thought Tails’ finale took place while Sonic was in the Lost World stage and flashback. Then, Eggman, humiliated by Tails, decides to retreat to his base, and Sonic sees the opportunity as an early Christmas present of potential robot wreckage.
If I were to make the Sonic games, here’s what I would do. (Just a thing I’ve always wanted to do)
Sonic 1: Typical Hero
Sonic 2: Elite
Sonic 3: Worthless
Sonic & Knuckles: Sidekick
Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Elite
Sonic CD: Typical Hero
Sonic 3D Blast: Typical Hero
Sonic Adventure: Typical Hero
Sonic Adventure 2: Sidekick
Sonic Advanced 1 & 2: Typical Hero
Sonic Advanced 3: Elite
Part 2 Coming soon
Also, if you want a reasoning behind why, comment ‘why’.
Sonic in sonic CD is the key and only key role on the history since he's the only one who can spark his squills fast enough to travel through time.
My biggest flex is that all three of my favorite sonic games are in elite tier
Personally for Frontiers Sonic being more mature, I like to believe the events of forces and the IDW comics (mainly the metal virus arc) opened his eyes to the possibility that he needs to be more careful and serious, and as the IDW is confirmed to be canon, the metal virus must have been the final thing that caused Sonic to be as mature as he is in Frontiers, yes, he still has a sense of humour, but he's certainly more serious, similar to how serious he was during the metal virus arc, so that's my reasoning for Sonic being as mature has he is in Frontiers
7:38 in all fairness Solaris is god, so I don’t think 1 super form can stop him
1 super form can stop him, inwhatevertimelineyourin.
Just not 3 timelines
It’s explained that to defeat Solaris, it needs to be killed in the past, present, and future
Team Sonic literally were the main force fighting Neo Metal though. He also leads Team Sonic (obvs)
You could say similar for other Super fights nears the end, like in Advance 2 he saved Vanilla.
Also tbf Shadow didn't do most of the work to save the world, he did a lot of the work to destroy it. And unlike Sonic he wasn't used to the super form enough to not "die".
Let me make one thing clear about Unleashed. If there was a spot above elite, Sonic would go there. Yes, you could argue the entire planet broke apart because of him, but yet again, he’s the only one who can fix it. He was the one in possession of the chaos emeralds the whole time. Plus, there was no rule that said Sonic could get back the chaos emeralds after the planet was put back together. Essentially, he willingly sacrificed part of himself and potentially never go Super Sonic again in order to fix his mistakes.
You should also rank Mario in all the mainline Mario game and rank him from worthless to Elite
13:36 not even mentioning the five and a half total super sonic fights with him showing off new mastery of the form
And super sonic two
Fire & Ice: His friends are only needed because he can't open hammer shaped doors
Typical Hero
I don't understand why you gotta put down some games (like 3D Blast, 06 and Forces) before talking about Sonic's role in them, it's such a turnoff, it's not even about them being games I like or dislike, it's just distasteful at this point imo. Getting to the point immediately about 06's story (which, speaking of, it ain't even confusing, it's REALLY straight forward if you pay attention) instead of having to go through Mandatory 06 Slunder Number 347891 is such a better alternative...
skip to 9.43 trust me
Fun fact. Sonic can solo most stages in sonic heroes alone with few exceptions.