Every Taito Game On Genesis and Mega Drive
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- For best results view at 1080p60fps. How about another big video about every game a company released on a single platform? How about this time I do Taito games on the Genesis / Mega Drive? How about you sit back and chill for about 40 minutes while you enjoy it? While you're at it, help spread the word! Tell a friend or community about the channel if you like it!
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these videos come off so clearly as a labor of love and the information is the kind that’s indispensable for years to come. fantastic work dude!
Well thanks, I appreciate the kind words!
You nailed it with the Rastan/Saint sword comparison. That's exactly what I was thinking back in 91.. I thought we was going to get a Rastan type game.
Yeah, it definitely wasn't what I was expecting. It's just not nearly as refined. There are some nice ideas, but it reeks of an ultra low budget.
Saving this for the commute to work tommorow morning. Thanx my guy.
(Edit....temptation got me. I watched)
Was lucky enough to play Super Chase for the first time at Ground Kontrol in Portland earlier this year. One of my favs!
A lot of love and effort in this video. Would love to see more full screen footage of individual platforms at a time. Another great way to compare.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks, glad you liked it!
I would agree with your implicit point that Taito bungled the opportunity of a lifetime on the Genesis, or, more broadly, in the 16 bit era; I'd just add that if you made a video about every Taito game _on the Master System and Game Gear_ -by contrast- you'd have a fairly positive opinion of their contribution to the 8-bit era.
You nailed it in the Darius segment, basic a 1:1 port (not counting wider display, that is), without the limited rom size and tight release schedules of the day, not only the Genesis, but the SNES and even the 8-bit consoles would benefit a LOT from not having such shortcomings. It's to show that their base hardware were really capable of doing so much more we were used to.
Yeah, the Genesis in particular I feel was limited by the small rom sizes devs had to use in its first couple of years. Since the SNES came along two years later, it didn't really have that issue to the same degree the Genesis did. I'm not quite sure why some later arcade ports weren't a little better on both platforms, by then it was probably more development times and budgets that played the biggest role.
@@InglebardGaming True, it was common for the SNES to have a minimum of 8Mb roms at least. The NEO GEO was what it was, though, due to it having expensive, but vast amount of space compared to anything else at the time, SNK ports to the 16-bit consoles are severely cut down, but they'd be much more impressive if there were no such cart limitations to them.
@@roberto1519 More impressive certainly, but would they have sold as well at $90 vs $60? Extra man hours and ROM capacity would've pushed the cost up pretty quickly back then.
@@ostiariusalpha I agree, but you see, I was saying that almost always, we ended up with a cutdown product not due to technical limitations, as the stock hardware is quite capable, the NEO GEO example is that, if not for the large capacity cartridges, the console wouldn't look so impressive. It's not about costs, but no arguing it was the major aspect of it all.
@@roberto1519 Of course. And if you think about it, the developer could have put in the resources to make a $70-$80 game. and still make a nice profit pricing it at $60-$70 because more copies would be sold. There was a real fear of committing to more quality when there was so much risk of poor sales though; which happened frequently. Little Samson was a big loss for Taito in Europe and the U.S., despite its obvious high quality. Dragon Quest II/III/IV basically ruined Enix' American branch due to poor sales as well.
Fantastic video as usual....my favourite Taito game on the MD is New Zealand Story...i used to play the arcade one when i was little...my grandpa seldom took me at a local arcade to play it
New Zealand Story is definitely a fun little game. I'd first played it on the Amiga and that version was pretty decent, too. I spent most of my time on the Amiga version, even though other versions are definitely nicer.
Thanks for compiling all those tests!
NP, glad you enjoyed it!
You're going to have a love-hate relationship with _Dahna: Megami Tanjou_ on the Genesis -and it is completely inevitable that your love of Rastan will draw your eye in that direction sooner or later. My theory: that whole genre had a difficult time escaping from the gameplay assumptions of Irem's Kung Fu (and the PC Engine's China Warrior)… although it seems obvious to us today that these games should play like Double Dragon 1, I'd infer that many of the programmers were still looking at Irem's Kung Fu as their model for imitation.
I've played Dahna, of course 😁 It's pretty well done and I love the overly dramatic music.
Rainbow Islands Extra's Extra Mode on the MD is also a port of the arcade's RI Extra, the only other port of Extra was to the FM Towns Marty over in Japan. The sad part is, the Extra Mode in the MD port behaves more internally like the original RI, and not EXTRA at all. In the arcade original, you could get the gems in ROYGBIV order (that exact order gathering them, no deviations) and a silver door will appear in the boss rooms, inside those doors is a special item (permanent speed shoes, permanent double and triple rainbows, protection fairy, the ability to get 10,000 point money bags when hidden goodies are uncovered in levels, Big Book of Continues which lets you continue past island 7, wings to fly upward for the rest of the game, and a sideways show that lets you kill the final boss in 1 hit). After you collect the gems in the correct order, the next colored gem you collect before thee boss determines what items you get in the silver door rooms, meaning you could get the Big Book of Continues in Island 1 instead of having to wait till Island 7 to be able to retrieve it.
Well Taito screwed up on the MD port, you can't manipulate the items anymore, meaning the game behaves like the regular Rainbow Islands. That Big Book of Continues I mentioned earlier, well it does squat in the MD port as you are still limited to the 7 credits max the game gives to you. Rainbow Islands Extra has never appeared on a console in the US, even it's last release on the PS2 was on Taito Memories, and PSP Taito Memories Pocket (the US version of the PSP compilation cut RI Extra out), both Japan releases.
Taito did not develop Saint Sword, just released it, the game was done by some company called Cyclone Systems. Super Space Invaders 91 never made it to the SNES, SNES got a port of Space Invaders DX instead, minus the parody mode found in the arcade version, and the DX got lopped off of the title in the US and Japan (where it is called Space Invaders the Original Game).
I didn't even realize there was an arcade version of Rainbow Islands Extra version, so thanks for the info on that one. Interesting to hear about the differences there, might have to track it down for a comparison down the line sometime.
As for Saint Sword, I was covering every game that met at least one of the following criteria: 1) an original arcade version was developed or distributed by Taito 2) it was published by on the Genesis or 3) it was a port of a taito arcade game published by someone else.
I think that a 32 Meg homebrew port of Operation Wolf would do well on the Genesis or maybe even a glow up of the NES Kick Master game
Oh, they can pretty much do any Taito 16-bit or lower port almost perfectly for titles that don't rely on scaling hardware. I'd love to see someone do the original Rastan, myself!
@@InglebardGaming definitely Rastan, I discovered Champion Wrestler and Dead Connection through MAME years ago, I can see those translating well
I remember owning rastan saga 2 on the genesis back in the day.... yeah I'd easily take the original over it. (though I did beat RS2 for what it's worth, haha) also I remember finding that super bubble bobble collection while randomly thumbing through a Genesis/MD ROM collection, I thought it was hilarious to see Shin-Chan in an unofficial cameo, haha. Gonna have to find that Darius MD port though it sounds like a pretty good conversion!
Yeah, Rastan II, what a disappointment that was. I lived the first game despite some rough edges but the sequel is just a mess on every platform that got it. Warrior Blade (Rastan 3) is better but isn't as good as the other brawlers that came out around the same time.
Since Darius 1 saw an official Genesis/MD release in the last year or so, you can get it legally that way, the prices though on it might not be pretty due to people who bought copies just to flip them on places like Ebay.
Taito's Sega MegaDrive efforts are par for the course and no doubt based on having to decide where to put your best ports... the lowest install base with the most powerful specs or the highest install base with some advantages FamiCom/NES/PCE?
Basically as frustrating Taito's Sega MegaDrive/Genesis ports are, they make sense... no reason to make them the best or higher rom Cartridge size possible if the install base is struggling. This is why devs who made games for Sega of America's 32X went either near or full bankrupcy and lost millions of dollars and time. Super Chase H.Q. is pretty obvious, the MD original is ok or passable for what it is.
I don't think it's comparable to the 32X situation. The Genesis/MD did huge numbers in US, Europe and other places, so there was a lot of sales potential in much of the world. Also, it's not like their PCE ports were spectacular quality, either.
I played Thunder Fox when launch and I love it, obviously had a big downgrade, but the felling of the game, like a B Action movie, I loved the most.
Yeah, it's a noticable downgrade on Genesis but it's still a decent game. I wanted to like it so much more than I did since it incorporates a lot of cool stuff. Ah well, at least it's still fun.
@@InglebardGaming and the game sounds like a Taito game, that FM "arcade" sound, even more simple, good memories.
Growl is one of the better beat ‘em ups. It has a variety of attacks and goofy over the top nuttiness. I’ll take it over stuff like Burning Fight etc.
That's the thing with the beat 'em genre... there's a LOT of chaff. Sor2, Final Fight, Golden Axe, and Double Dragon were all AMAZING for the time they came out. But nearly everything else is dull and forgettable. Just look at stuff like Rival Turf.
....I loved super chase. Best looking sprite scaler even bettering segas efforts - although they had moved into the model 1 3d boards by then
Thank you regarding flint stones game...
No idea why everyone is hyping it so high?!
Super Chase definitely looks great, even if the gameplay isn't really my thing. Taito also made a cool looking Galaxy Force II clone that I can't remember the name of right now. I'll have to track it down and do a video on it sometime.
@@InglebardGaming galactic storm!
Has cool mode 7 floors on it.
Yeah, that's the one.
Been thinking of doing an ep on non-Sega 2D scaling games, in addition to one on just that one. Don't know when I'll be able to get to them, though.
Does seem like a bit of mixed bag on the Megadrive concerning Taito, shame really, I expected more from them. I had Qix on the BBC Micro (although was called Kix) loved that game, will find the MD version and give it a go.
Yeah, there's only a couple of real stinkers, most of their games were somewhere between decent and good. I wish they'd done ports of Rastan and some of their slightly earlier games.
Taito's status as a B tier arcade developer in the late 80's - at best - might be why they've cast such a large shadow in the UK retrogaming scene.
It's probably the only reason most of their arcade games weren't immediately up snapped by US Gold and sent to the Tiertex factories to be turned into child torture devices. It helps that what was considered "average" by Japanese standards, was often way more polished and forgiving than what was considered "good" by western.
But c'mon, be fair. They're known for more than Darius. There's Daddy Mulk and that Bubble Bobble earworm, for example. Good luck getting either one out of your head! And there's everyone's favorite wallet busting platformer on the NES, Little Sampson. Or you could spend $160 on the Saturn's Elevator Action Returns, and not even get the game!
All of this pales in comparison to their greatest accomplishment, of course: Those Taito Legends collections on PS2/XBox/Windows. We were so spoiled, back then...
On the plus side, many of the western computer Taito arcade ports are actually pretty decent, unlike Capcom and Konami ports from the same era.
And yeah, Bubble Bobble and it's music will always be around, but Darius has been their only series to really see regular new entries throughout the last decade.
The collections are definitely nice!
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Chase HQ on Spectrum and Amstrad CPC is one of the few ports I'd go so far as to say they're better than the PC Engine and Master System counterparts.
Possibly the only one. I'm sure I'm forgetting something really obvious, but nothing else comes immediately to mind.
I think Taito were a top developer. I know Inglebard doesn't like it but Darius is, imo, one of the best shooting games ever made and very innovative. Some of the games they made seemed like they were made quickly just to get money (Crime City) and some weren't that great... but many are really nice. Dungeon Magic is an example. The quality of Taito games is erratic. Capcom had off-days too though. I find Taito's output on the Megadrive very bland mostly with Rainbow Islands being the best. I think the step down in hardware was a pain for Taito and we only really got great ports of their games when the Saturn was released.
@@simon41978
They'd get a free pass if their Nintendo games weren't so much better than their Megadrive output.
Ninja Warriors/Lufia 2/Energy Breaker/Bust-A-Move/Little Samson/Panic Restaurant...
That's 6 classics that can compete with the best of any system library....even if they didn't always do a great job of promoting them. (And Energy Breaker, I'm told, has an intimidating learning curve early on...at least by console JRPG standards.)
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