The Gap Between Taekwondo And Muay Thai - ITF TKD challenges Muay Thai
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 พ.ค. 2024
- Extreme props to this TKD practitioner for putting himself out there. He goes by ITF Sama, so we'll continue with that nickname. In this three sparring commentary, ITF Sama goes up against three different Muay Thai guys to test out his ITF Taekwondo. Let's see how the Muay Thai guys best him in various striking distances. There is something amazing about his TKD kicks, but he is unable to couple them with the correct punches and distance management. Lots more lessons in the video.
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Timecodes:
0:00 TKD vs chill muay thai guy
3:06 TKD vs serious muay thai guy
7:59 Shoutout to ITF Sama
8:15 TKD vs Muay Thai champion
14:42 Final analysis - กีฬา
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Muay Thai's "slow start" is more than just them testing the waters and feeling you out. Although it is majorly that too. A lot of it is caused by cultural pressure. Because it is in the early rounds where bets are placed by the audience at the stadium.
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This kid actually has great potential though, I reckon if he isnt too flashy and if he set up his spinning kicks much better he could catch opponents off guard with it
Definitely
The diferente here IS in experience, the kid obviouslu IS talented but don't have any spar experience, usualy when you have this Taekwondo fighting style you need to keep the enemy guessing and always on check so the enemy gets afraid of the counter and don't come foward easily
The Taekwondo Guy IS throwing without any strategy and set UP that IS why no one IS even bothered by his kicks
Thing is though, asking for TKD fighters to not be flashy is like asking David Beckham not to bend it around the keeper. I used to do ITF when I was younger and to this date have not seen a TKD fighter who isn't all show with no power/impact. Most kicks weren't even executed to reach the opponent but purely to show off.
@@winstonthecuttlefish5352you can be flashy and still set your stuff up, he just needs more training
I loved watching this dude. Out of all the TKD people you've put I honestly think this dudes the best one. His TKD had like no slop, and while he was having trouble, he seems to have like actual theory and an idea of how to use his TKD effectively. Usually something that annoys me about traditional martial artists is that they want to test it, but you can tell they lose faith and confidence in it REALLY quickly, but this kid not only keeps at it, but maintains the form the whole time, he makes it look like how you'd like to think it looks. The holes are still their obviously in terms of practicality but this kid has talent and the muay thai guys are being nice, but you can tell he loves the martial art and really takes it and what he's doing seriously. It's a special little thing you don't get to see too often. Thanks for showing this
Absolutely!
if you think this is the best, wait till you see his older videos
More importantly you see him learning and closing up gaps . He learns how too clinch and he’s got something going there.
Watch his one video with a Chinese ITF guy and another one with kwonkicker. They both destroyed Muay Thai fighters.
TKD guy clearly had an understanding Muay Thai but he doesn't have the basic boxing knowledge. Punches look unnatural and chin's always wide open
I like this TKD guy, it seems like he's really there to have fun. He's putting on a good entertaining show for the viewers... seems like some of his high kicks aren't even trying to hit the head, just meant to show off his high kicking skills :)
Maybe. I think he’s just nervous & doesn’t want the fight to be real because the skill difference is pretty vast. Ones flashy but the other , if serious, can do some real damage.
Facts, light sparring with new rules (Muay Thai)
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Why would you carry out the kick when the mt guys already moved out of range because he telegraphes so much. So playing around those axe kicks are serious kicks which can easily take someone out
@@johnathanl487it a sparring much also the Muay Thai guy is bigger
You can actually see him learning as he goes which is neat .
@@hgyuuuuhj098 you seem to comment that on random comments. What are you even trying to say?
@@hgyuuuuhj098odd response
All 3 muay thai fighters showed great respect and restraint.
Rd1 the Thai was throwing punches soooo slow, with almost zero power and they were still landing.
Rd2 Thai fighter didn't throw a single knee to the face, twd guy just didn't have an answer to the clinches and would have been lights out
Rd3 Thai fighter just let tkd guy burn himself out.
Thai fighters are so conditioned they could eat those kicks to the legs and body all day long, even if they didn't check them, they would just walk the fighter down to a range where twd guy couldn't even throw any kicks.
All in all, the fighters were just having fun with no real intention of either hurting or humiliating their opponent 👍
The glazing is crazy very passive aggressive
Anyways ur reasons for them holding back don’t make my much sense how are you supposed to know someone was holding back the speed of the punch?
Also ITF TKD is not known for flashy kicks or fancy attacks so I could use the same logic here
Oh and before you type I do think Muay Thai beats taekwondo 9/10 times
@@UndefeatedDeathDebunkedYou nothing he said was wrong. Muay thai could just close the distance and elbow him knee him clinch while taekwando can do 0 there
One thing I will say, I don't know how it is in china but as far as I know teeps to the face are very disrespectful in muay thai for thai cultural reasons.
When I first crossed over from TKD to Muay Thai I’ll never forget realizing I’ve never been kicked in my thigh that way before, same with the first time checking a kick without shin guards. It unlocked so much! I think blending TKD and Muay Thai is good as they compliment what the other lacks.
I’d say the Muay Thai guard and stance is far better than the TKD stance for combat. A nice Muay Thai teep to a TKD spinning back kick would be flashy and great if it lands😂 or getting in the clinch and shifting their weight to the side and putting them off balance for a heel kick straight to the head. Those 2 arts mixed would be beautiful
I see tkd as a good complement for mt, but mt for tkd is more a need than a complement I think. Tkd should open itself a bit for evolution. I love it, but I think it needs more "weapons".
I started with capoeira before going to Muay Thai, and yeah it is phenomenal the advantage I have now that I unlocked my upper body haha. Also the capoeira takedowns/sweeps are deadly in muay thai. You nailed it my G.
As someone who did karate and specialized in kicks, I really appreciated being taught by Muay Thai guys to put knees and teeps into the mix. It allows me to be flashy and have fun, but to also not feel lost close range and control space (i.e in a clinch or they pass your optimal range). Now I can use all aspects of the leg. Shoutouts to both styles in this vid.
Oh I did also specialize in kicks while doing karate, and I am also going to start muay thai soon. We seem to be such a rare find. Honestly, I am terrible with punches, but my kicks had no rival at my local gym, most of them were fists guys. I hope my experience and leg flexibility counts for something though.
If you did kyokushin karate you'd learned knees and elbows lol
I want to learn a lot of martial arts and then combine them to fill in the holes of each art.
@@thebrotatochip32 muay thai or kickboxing is sufficient enough , mor then enough actually 😎, i do kyokushin ,karate, it teaches selfe defence, dangerous kllng techniques , but i also train muay thai with a friend of mine , i need some grappling then I'm good 😼🤞
The best MA is the one you adapt to your style.
I think the Muay Thai guys know the skill difference is huge & they make it seem effortless… all that flash seems completely ineffective & they’re just standing there swaying with no real offense or reason for an offense…
It’s crazy how vast the skill gap is….
@Johnathan L I bet this kid hasn't won any important TKD tournament anyways
Same weight class and experience, Mt guy wins 100-0 against tkd itf.
There's a kickboxing champ called "black Bruce Lee" and he uses tkd against Muay Thai. And it was effective.
its just that TKD is an inferior style
The TKD guy is actually great despite the age, height and weight gap. He actually knows how to land the kicks without wasting any movement.
Yeah this looks like a good time, I love this type of sportsmanship.
That being said this TKD guy is great mentally and physically to be able to get in and test his tools. The MT guy is awesome for not exposing and destroying when he had a chance, he did a good job controlling and teaching him. TKD has potential to be a fun effective fighter to watch
The biggest problem i see with ITF in these situations is that they dont actually commit to those kicks. They throw them as if its still point fighting
I think they didn’t wanna piss off the Muay Thai guys… & rightfully so… they looked scary in this exhibition… once they realized none of their stuff worked they probably were demoralized & made a joke of it.
^This
they're just sparring. Even Muay Thai guy isn't fully committing
Honestly if the TKD guy learns how to box a bit and better respond to punches I could see him being a formidable opponent.
So, if he learned how to fight effectively, he'd be formidable. Makes sense.
@@pandafragranceWhy are you being so snarky? The tkd guy has amazing kicks. The problem is the points system in TKD, and that they are not training for mma-style brutality.
If he incorporates MT/boxing techniques into his repertoire he would be a devastating striker by all accounts. Those flashy spinning kicks are not useless. It's the training surrounding them that is the problem (for MMA).
If TKD guy were to cross-train and learn some boxing, he'd be deadly. He has a good sense of timing and distance.
not Boxing, he needs Kickboxing or Muay Thai training. His hands here are pretty ok
Most TKD critics say TKD has no fists, elbows, knees and leg kicks.
But this is like saying that TKD players have no intelligence.
Such restrictions exist only in competitions.
And groin and eye attacks are prohibited in all official matches.
But if there are no restrictions, more than 50% of matches will end up with groin or eye attacks.
The MMA also has a large ban on hitting.
It's not that you can't use a skill, it's that you don't use it to prevent major injuries.
And the reason why TKD trainees seems weak is that TKD has many trainees and does not have a fessional league.
Also, many TKD trainees do TKD for physical and mantal training and fun, not just for fighting.
On the other hand, the reason why MT trainees seems strong is that there is a rough professional league, but not all martial arts trainees want such a match.
There is a wide gap between professionals and amateurs in any field.
TKD Master Kwan-young Lee won the battle against 13 knife-wielding gangsters in France.
The incident was also reported in French newspapers, and he was recruited by the French Interior Ministry in 1981
and served as a bodyguard instructor for the Special Crime Investigation Unit of the National Police Agency.
Any martial art is ultimately similar and is governed by a martial artist.
i love how much it looks like the tkd is just having fun and enjoying himself- you can really feel the energy from him
Never seen such a good chilled work out. TY
Great illustration of the difference between letting an opponent maintain his favored distance and smothering him.
Remember ITF sparring is a tatami sport not a ring sport. Usually they compete on 8x8 metre mats or even 10 x 10 so its a big area. Athletes can exit the mat and accept a warning so they don't get overwhelmed. Punches are only worth one point, while kicks to the body are two and kicks to the head are three. Cardio is a big issue because ITF matches are just two two minute rounds so it's extremely high tempo. Typically when they spar muay thai or full contact fighters they have success for the first couple of rounds because of their movement and unusual striking patterns. They'll throw hook kicks and ax kicks because it's worth three points but its not for damage. But then they gas out later. Check out Cage Warriors fighters Adam and Ryan Shelley because they successfully transitioned from an ITF background to professional MMA.
I have seen Kickboxers, Muy thai lose BADLY, BADLY when going to TKD competitions. All the spinning back kicks were never meant to land, if they did land it would be eating out of a pipe. In an open area, they cannot touch the ITF TKD period. The point of the 2 minute round is that if you cannot take out your opponent in 2 minutes there is something wrong with you. Also remember in a ITF competition, one has to fight 5-9 different opponents, all with varying skills, MT, kickboxing do not do this.
If a black belt in a competition fights 5 diff opponents he is fighting for 10 minutes at high tempo.
ITF was built & is used for the korean army hand to hand combat for killing, it is only put into the sport side for a bit of competition, the full ITF as used by the North Koreans is a hand to hand combat killing martial art.
Muy Thai is a gambling sport, they are designed to last long for bets to make money.
ITF is fast, designed to take out an opponent AFAP
On the street, for self defense, fighting I do not think you can beat it. A good karate style though for self defense is also good.
I would love to see a Muy Thai fighter try clench or grab an ITF fighter on the sport mats, not going to happen.
His mistake is actually his distance management he is kicking as if the opponent is coming forward as a counter most of the kicks he initiated if the guy stood still (which many times they did) it wouldn’t landed also telegraphing with spins most people just back away and come in after you spin since you’ll be slightly disoriented or regaining balance
I really gotta give him props for having a good fighting spirit. And his form is really good. He's lacking in power and speed, but his cardio is really impressive. To be fair, it's really hard to throw spin kicks with any power in such a small ring. When you're this boxed in, usually it's better to pound them with fast double kicks and sneak in a head kick or leg kick if you're a rebel. But yeah, gotta work in the clinch. Mad respect to both fighters here for being great sports
The problem with tkd guys is that usually they only train to fight other taekwondo guys with their specific set of rules. So they don't know what to do against fighters who practice mma or muay thai. If they used to train to fight muay thai guys with muay thai's rules, we would see better results.
One of the best entertaining fight analysis. Please more tkd VS muay Thai.
This Is so cool, I love the channel man. Sparring martial arts with different martial arts is so cool, specially mma vs other stuff , I love to watch these spar fights , its amazing! Please do more, I love fighting I used to play dead or alive 5 and 6 and love these games. the best fighter is the one that knows how to use their fighting style very well enough with experience in spar fights and real fights . It is good to know about everything! Instead of limiting one self to only know one art.
One of the differences I see here compared to some of these TKD vs Muay Thai videos is that the people featured here are very noticeably just sparring. It's all friendly, no ego, they're just playing around with each other. Even with the second Muay Thai guy who was going with more intensity, it never seemed like things are getting too heated and an actual fight is breaking out.
That's true, in a lot of these videos the people are smiling and just sparring and having fun, but the narration makes it seem like a championship belt is on the line.
I like the attitude of this MT gym. Taking it more lightly, giving both the opportunity to try things out. After a while, the respective MT guy gives TKD guy a little glimpse what a real fight could look like.
Also, TKD guy looks pretty young, so he maybe got some puppie protection. But they cannot let him think he is the boss. They give him one or two reality checks each.
He's got some real fluid movement and clean techniques, but I think he learned a lot from this about where to improve.
TKD guy needs to not lead with spin kicks. Rarely do leading spin kicks land. Setup with a kick or punch. Also spin kicks can be good counters to certain moves.
Yep
I love how they also learning from each other while fighting, and they enjoy themselves. As a ITF Taekwondo guy myself, i appreciate what this kid put out too, especially towards opponents which were specialized at that type of fighting. Imo, if he only learns to connect those kicks better, and manage the distance a tiny bit better, he could seriously be devastating, even against Muay Thai fighters. And im not sure, but im supposing he is a little lighter than the other guys, so massive respect for him, and for the other fighters too❤
just those things won't help him against muay thai guys much if at all tbh. These MT dudes were seriously going at max control in order to just help buddy learn ngl.
He needs to learn boxing (he has good loose hands but lacks fundamentals, a sharp 1-2 would be killer), how to check/catch kicks, and how to respond to both of those things in reverse, and that is just for out-fighting only. The clinch is game over.
What a chill sparring match. Thai guy looks a bit older and more experienced. So glad neither of them was salty or disrespectful.
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Thank you for the upload Brother! I have only watched to 05:12 thus far & need to say: bruh this is basic kick not just in Muay Thai but also Sandai aka San Shou!
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This TKD dude gonna be a world champ if he adds muay thai and kickboxing in his training.
I see him becoming a kickboxing champion
I feel you about the excessive foot dorsiflexion from kicking a heavy bag wrong. I think a small bone in my right foot is still a little loose after having kicked someone's shin without shin pads 2 years ago. The other guy was more conditioned than me and it was foot against shin. He didn't even have to check.
Advice from a MT guy. If that's okay.
Land your kicks with the shin, use the foot for head/face strikes only (and the shin ofc if in range). Your feet will thank you.
@@speedrob Oh yeah, learned it the hard way after this incident, lol. Nowadays I'm more aware if I'm in the correct range to properly land with the shin. But ever since then, I've not really been confident about throwing kicks.
@@rohitchaoji no problem bud, it happens to the best of us.
luckily we have two feet so you can still get a good high kick with a left.
maybe keep the right leg for checks, fakes, step switch and knees. no need to kick if you feel uncomfortable with that foot.
hope it recovers the best it can.
shout out to the second guy for wearing the pink gloves and matching shin guards. Real men wear pink!
This guys itf is on point, bearing in mind he has definitley trained with it modified for more kickboxing style matches, you can see in the missed spin back kicks how he just tilts back to nuetral stance with no overspin or anything, great to watch, i think if he opted for a longer two foot jumping spin hook so his leg is lower relative to hip sticks out more and jump travels forward rather than a planted very high angle spin hook when he did the feint 360 chain hed have had success
Muay Thai shines simply for how well rounded it is. I feel like if you could incorporate some of the TKD techniques into Muay Thai, it would make for an ever better striking art. We see kickboxers tend to mix these two arts to great effect.
this is some good respectful sparring, the TKD guy has potential, i feel like if he simplifies his kicks and learns to box a bit, he can become pretty good. Imo the best way for him to do that is to learn boxing in his original stance (or at the very least as close to it as possible) rather than in a pure boxing stance.
If he trains hard in kickboxing he might be able to
Sounds like you're basically telling him to do kickboxing/muay thai and you that's what it is at the end of the day. TKD is a gimmick style if we're being honest here, only really good for surprising the opponent.
The fight looks like an old video game and I really like it.
I used to love TKD. Your average guy had no idea how to deal with kicks. Used to kick my training bags but I broke them. Eventually left TKD and started kicking an old military truck in a junk yard. Made some changes. I ended up practicing on a training bag in a gym and another martial artist came up and asked me if what I'm practicing is Kali. He said my strikes are violently whipping like Kali does. It's weird because I didn't know anything about this martial art. But it's strange how you can change some things and eventually it just becomes something else completely later.
I used to do TKD too, but at some point, it started to become Jeet Kune Do. I only noticed the transition when I came back to TKD
@@devilish6854 That"s amazing. Our styles became like fingerprints.
Always nice to get the opportunity to have a fun little sparring session with other kickboxing practicioners as a TKD competitor. Gives you a really good feel on your weaker areas. Unfortunately with his tool set he is even more limited vs the muay thai artist by this casual sparring match. ITF TKD benefit heavily from being allowed to go for knockout kicks. But, hes not gonna go for any Knock outs. ITF TKD knock outs are designed from counters and follow up from feints or bait. He should take note from the MT specialist if he goes right into matches at medium intensity. Feeling out your opponent and their spacing is key to your distancing. That being said as a former TKD competitor, this is how most TKD specialists above 3rd Dan spar. Certainly not the best display I've seen but he's at such a disadvantage and it's casual so it's hard to say if he actually fights much more effectively in real matches. He certainly shouldn't be telegraphic his kicks this much even in sparring though. Though if he gets faster, it might not matter as much. Since it's not too difficult to switch up the kick mid spin.
Once they figure out how to blend TKD with Muay Thai it changes the striking in such a good way!
I've found that if the MT person exclusively uses a tight shell then they can get overwhelmed by the huge variety of shots coming at them if you use a tkd base.
Keep the spins for when you've made reads, and don't let them pressure forward as much by using straight kicks and footwork, and try to actually have a threat with your hands. Id say those are the basics of fighting that style.
One thing I've noticed in these videos is tkd ppl don't seem to use a lot of feints or fakes. There's a lot of movements that could be considered as those but there doesn't seem to be much thought into how to use the reactions and reads.
you mean this particular Muay Thai guy? He wasn't trying in the slightest.
@@13buthead nah just a general gameplan for trying to fight someone with a MT style or a tight shell defence if you have a TKD background. Just stuff that I've had success with in sparring.
The Taekwondo guy is just doing flashy kicks for the sake of it. There were a bunch of times when the Muay Thai guy barely moved and still those fancy spinning kicks weren't even remotely close.
To be fair I don't think he's actually trying to land a lot of those high kicks, more display of high kick skill imo
Yeah the TKD was light kicking. He’s wasn’t trying to hurt him
@Art Of Martial Cinema (AMC) That may be true, but then you have to wonder why would you do that in a sparring match? That could be done when doing a demo performance or exhibition of some kind. I thought sparring is where you're actually trying to use your skills.
That young man was really holding back on the kid. Nice job dude.
beautiful ahh spin kicks, spin kicks always look so good
I just love how the TKD guy is just having fun, even if the muay thai guy is simply testing the waters i just love the TKD movements the guy is putting out.
The way TKD guy gave him permission to grab him "Yo ! You can grab me, man !!" 😂😂
great commentary Thanks
This just looks like so much fun.
The amount of bias from the video is amazing. The taekwondo guy casually kicking in the air having fun like a practice bout while comentator is simping on the muay thai guys.
tkdlooked like he was testing the waters himself with fun combos and flashy kicks that he clearly held back with. it seemed he pulled the delivery in either respect or fear they'd turn the heat up.
That's a cultural thing. Muay thai, your calmness is the biggest weapon a person doing muay thai can have. If you notice we don't move as much as other martial arts. So this is a typical muay boxer
Dude. That. Was. Really. Dupe. 😄😁✌🏾👊🏾 thanks (🖐🏾)
they both seem to be having fun :D
He improved alot between 2nd and 3rd.
Props to him for grinding
MT fighters also train back kick, spinning round house kick and also jumping kick but they mostly use those kicks for defending when the first move was missed or when they knew that they're in a winning fight and would like show off, that's because typical round house kick and low kick are much more effective and they can throw some more nasty combination after the typical kicks.
I always found that "come on, hit me, show me what you have" muay thai tactic really risky, but is fkg badass lol. Props to those guys for keeping it cool and playful. Sparring is not that easy, especially different styles.
Awesome Video 💪
Thank you 🙌
hey guy, you're really funny describing the fightings
TKD was never intended to be used in a mixed martial arts context - but the training itself can be incorporated in MMA. Very good complement to a mma fighter.
This was entertaining 😂
This is what I like to see!
As a WTF Taekwondo blackbelt I must say that it is hard not to be smothered by other martial art disciplines. Ive had better luck when relying more on my boxing to set up surprise kicks.
My average boxing skills has never scared anyone. It's the surprise teep or spinning back kick counter that gets the job done
13:41 Referee has called a stop to this contest😂😂😂
I've said this before and I'll say it again: train in Muay Thai as your base and try to have free time to learn Taekwondo. Or at least any kinds of spinning kicks to add more weapons to your arsenal. I have seen many MT fighters, especially Thai that easily fall to spinning kicks coming from Kickboxers or fellow MT fighters that are somewhat trained in TKD. Because they got used to fighting in the usual roundhouse kicks, leg kicks, boxing, elbows, knees, and clinching that the least that they would expect is a spinning kick.
Sure, spinning kicks seem predictable. But if you're not used to throwing one, it could be unpredictable. Because it still has a different trajectory and timing.
Once you learned to enhance your balance, it will be very easy to throw spinning kicks on a whim without tripping.
Wow first video ive seen where the tkd guy looks like he actually consistently trains in the sport. If they teach him how to assimilate his previous discipline into their own hed definitely do well.
Tkd guy exhausted after 1round after those spinny kicks 😂
To his credit, the TKD clearly didn’t want to KO him, that makes it look like his not wining sometimes. It happened to me a lot when transitioning from TKD to Muay Thai
Respect to the Muay Thai guys for being good sports and also to the Tkd guy for trying his skills against them.
During sparring the proper etiquette when you’re opponent throws a high kick rather it makes contact or you catch the kick is to acknowledge it and easily let the kicker regain their stance.
That tkd dude could develop a cool kickboxing style with some guidance. Good attitude too. The Muay Thai guys were solid. Efficient and methodical, while being really patient and controlled.
seems like a considerable weight class difference. Great tkd though, good showcase. He is probably doing this for show, but watching old school itf tkd competitions you see that they very rarely throw a spin kick (for obvious reasons) and mostly focus on side kick and roundhouse kick thrown from a very fast forward movement, very close to what karate guys do.
Jerry didn't even notice the quick punch at @10:30
or the butt kick at @11:08 that took the TKD guy's balance
Hahahaha
Yeah I noticed the lack of commentary on those too
The TKD guy honestly looks good though, like it wouldn't take a crazy amount of time for him to adapt his style for a kickboxing ruleset. Especially a 3x3min round format instead of the Muay Thai 5x3min rounds.
Sparring in the dojo and in tkd
tournaments is alot different from a real fight a predictable spinning move can easily get you knocked out, when your back is turned you are vulnerable
TKD guy almost looks like the personification of the “windows is now shutting down “ screen the second they clinch
I really like how the two Muay Thai guys who were bigger held back.
I fought a tkd fighter from Brazil and he kicked hard. I have fought three tkd fighters and all of them couldn't handle pressure and striking with hands was wastful and weak. The Brazilian hit me with one of the hardest kicks I have had. Happened 15 years ago and I still can feel it
Do you have footage?
@@FightCommentary I will dig around and ask my brother. You want boxing footage?
This was a great video to watch when i put the audio on mute
12:25 textbook picture perfect set up and sweep!
While ITF Taekwondo does indeed look insanely cool I do feel they're quite limited to what they can use,I mean they only use their hands and feet which for some might be quite limiting, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't,the kicks of ITF Taekwondo are very scary and can come out of nowhere and a powerful kick is far worse than a powerful punch especially the spinning tornado kicks and their acrobatic movements can make them unpredictable so they've definitely got quite a bit going for them but I do prefer Muay Thai mostly because they have twice as many options to fall back on and can be equally if not more dangerous than most ITF Taekwondo techniques,you have your fists,your elbows, your knees and your shins and Tony Jaa is living proof on what Muay Thai is truly capable of,not to mention Muay Thai practitioners are as tough as nails and a real force to be reckoned with
his spin kicks are perfect
last fight is perfect demonstration for thwy there are weight classes. mauy thai guy was just leaning on tae kwan do guys numerous punchees til tae kwon do guy got tired.
I've noticed kickboxing or muay thai fighters around the world these days dont exactly fight in one style or another and that striking at high level just becomes more similar to each other and convoluted. They use techniques that both these guys are doing, spinning kicks, faster snappy kicks, heavy kicks, tkd style front kicks, mt teeps etc... Not really like one or another but well rounded and it makes sense.
TKD guy got enough knowledge in TKD, he needs to train Muay Thai next.
TKD guy enjoying this a lot.
That tkd guy is really good! He's clearly just taking it easy, because its a spar. All flashy, hitting at will but he couldn't fully commit to a KO blow to the head. If he was allowed to do so he would've knocked them out easy. Especially the first spar where the guy was way bigger. There was no way to push the bigger guy back if you're holding back your power. The 2nd spar with he smaller guy was more challenging as the smaller mauy thai guy grappled him and he had not answer for it.
3rd spar was more effort
This tkd guy has big anime main character energy
Takes a beating, laughs it off and proceeds to spam the same moves that aren't working
It's true, you gotta stick your hands in peoples face to land a kick sometimes
I don’t remember where I heard this put “do tkd to learn how to kick and flexibility then learn Muay Thai to learn to add insane power to those kicks”
My guess is the best standup is Muay Thai with a little TKD kicks mixed in here and there.
ITF back spinning kick is THE most powerful kick in ALL martial arts as tested & shown in fight science - this is very friendly sparring, in a ring, just one of those spinning back kicks will take your head off. ITF TKD on the street will slaughter a Muy thai fighter, boxers, kick boxers, MT all fight in tight spaces. Put ANY of them in an open ITF tournament even with their rules, see what happens. I have seen our black belts even go against BJJ & get out of their grips. A good ITF school trains hands like boxing - watch Tomaz Barrada
0:39 Lmfao he just got hit by those two slow mo kicks.😂😂😂
Should have a look at Karl Van Roon from NZ - he is Israel Adesanya's striking coach, ITF champion and has had some wins in MMA>
I have trouble understanding why ITF competitors use the lead leg side kick so much. It looks totally powerless if there's no stepping momentum involved and it's not even fast enough to be used as a leg jab. Furthermore, it leaves you in a vulnerable bladed stance with slow recovery. A grappler can just slip to the side and take the back when the side kick whiffs.
Its not the technique, its the way its set up in ITF that makes it less effective. People who cross train with MMA have very effective lead leg side kicks because they know how to time it, just look at Stephen Thompson.
@@mythrin True, I've seen proper used of the lead leg side kick as a distance control or set up tool. As you mentioned, I have issues with the way ITF uses the lead leg, keeping it suspended and repeatedly "jabbing" while hopping on the back leg, like Hwoarang's flamingo stance in Tekken. Seems completely useless to me in an MMA context.
It's because scoring a point in tkd is far more important than doing damage, tkd don't fight like muay thai do, muay thai is very important to do as much damage to opponent before they do it to you, tkd is important to score point before opponent, different objectives result in different technique and outcomes.
Need to learn how to get out of MT clinch, one of the first thing you learn in Bang Muai Thai and oddly Wing Chun
You should watch serkan yilmaz. Amazing taekwondo fighter.
Spin kicks should be used as a counter and surprise offence.. throwing that many would obviously make the opponents gaze the distance ...
*Edit - this felt more a playful sparring than a tactical sparring ... So that could've been the reason for those fancy kicks
There was also a garbage truck going by my place at the exact same time, and it freaked me out for a second that you commented on what was happening on my side of the screen.