Avoid These Marathon Mistakes! Don't Hit The Wall

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  • Andy Blow is one of the first people I call if I want to nerd out on optimizing my nutrition and hydration for training and racing. He is a Sports Scientist and the co-founder of Precision Fuel & Hydration. Visit visit.pfandh.com/Flo10 to get 10% off your first order of PF&H.
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    Chapters
    00:00 common mistakes with bonking
    01:53 welcome Andy!
    02:41 common mistakes with fueling
    02:26 race distance, intensity and carb intake
    08:25 digestive system, tolerance
    13:06 development of energy gels
    16:47 cramp!
    21:47 science of sweat
    26:29 electrolyte deficiency
    29:50 online electrolyte calculator
    31:22 weather conditions and nutrition intake
    34:52 gel consistency and flavor
    36:42 salt pill tactics
    38:17 side-aches (stitch)
    41:20 journaling to identify areas for improvement
    44:15 relax, it’s not over ‘til it’s over!
    49:11 gender and fueling + hydration
    52:06 find out more about Precision Hydration
    53:44 closing thoughts
    MORE ABOUT ANDY BLOW
    Andy Blow is a Sports Scientist with a degree in Sports and Exercise Science from the University of Bath. An expert in sweat, dehydration and cramping, Andy previously worked as the Team Sports Scientist for the Benetton and Renault Formula 1 teams, and remains an adviser to the Porsche Human Performance Centre. An elite level triathlete in his younger days, Andy has finished in the top-10 of Ironman and IM 70.3 races, as well as winning an Xterra World title. It was Andy's own struggles with cramp and hydration that led to him specializing in electrolyte replenishment and founding Precision Fuel & Hydration. Andy is a leading figure in the world of sports hydration and has worked alongside Dr Raj Jutley, as well as other top sports scientists, to co-author a number of studies and books.
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  • @negomi340
    @negomi340 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I'm a woman who ran her first marathon in 1994, aged 33, before the sports 'nutrition' industry took off. I'd been running less than a year, I didn't follow a training plan, drank nothing but water during the race, and all I ate was a fun size Milky Way (approx 50 calories). I finished in 3.hrs 46. I run ultramarathons now (winning my age group) and in my 30 years of running I've never even tasted a gel or anything similar. I fuel with food. Revolutionary idea, I know 😂

    • @nicholastorres2442
      @nicholastorres2442 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Congrats!

    • @martinkelly3803
      @martinkelly3803 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fat burning mode

    • @nicoler88
      @nicoler88 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same, ran my first marathon in 3:40 in 2007 (BQ qualifying time at the time for my age). I drank water and ate nothing.

    • @stuffedpie5412
      @stuffedpie5412 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are you running them at now??

    • @Harrythehun
      @Harrythehun หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is possible and doable. But the evolution and development is there, and imagine how much time and improvements was left on the table by missing out on the optimal fueling. Someone probably could complain about you were wearing shoes when running.

  • @galenhossack9050
    @galenhossack9050 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    FYI - I read an article on the side stitch, cause I used to get them often, and what it suggested was that I alternate my breathing and my feet. So, have "full lungs" on a left step and then "full lungs" on a right step a few steps later. Practically this means breathing in for 4 steps and out for 3, or breathing in for 3 and out for 2 steps. So you are not favoring one side with empty lungs. This has resolved my side stitch every time since employing this strategy. The article reckons it's something to do with empty lung and diaphragm "pulling" away from each other more on one side than the other. Anyway ... my 2c.

    • @wallyevans4228
      @wallyevans4228 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In Scott Jureks Book eat n run….he used breath out 3 then in for 2 and he claims to never had a collegiate running injury to his hips

    • @kmcveigh100
      @kmcveigh100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, this all has to do with the phrenic nerve. The diaphragm has to continue functioning properly. You control that through breathing.

  • @RobertSmith-God-man
    @RobertSmith-God-man ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Guys! Thank you so much for sharing. I just ran my second marathon and on the bus to the event was listening to Anthony’s and your advice on fueling, hydrating, and electrolytes. I realized I was lacking in all three areas and the tip that helped me the most was when you guys talked about the things you take in during the first part of the race prepare your body for the second part of the race. Also the tip about taking in fuel when you don’t feel like it was a big help. The last 10km I was starting to feel the strain and stress of the race and the gels started to taste awful, but I stuck to the plan and forced them down and it really helped me make it through and finish the race strong. It was also the first time I had finished all the gels I’d planned to take during a race or run 😂. Thanks again.

    • @Reckoning2943
      @Reckoning2943 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s actually the most important thing: fuel before you feel the need for it. If you only start fueling once you feel the fatigue and hunger it’s too little too late

  • @Rls2236
    @Rls2236 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That's a great point Andy made about knowing your sweat rate during different conditions. In the winter I can run long without a need or thought of fluids but in the summer I start thinking about needing a drink within the first 45 minutes!

    • @ryanmiskin8925
      @ryanmiskin8925 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      summer time here in the Dallas area, it's kinda humid and 80-85* in the morning, in the dark...if you're doing anything other than a super easy recovery run, you need hydration after about 15min and just constantly sipping on it to stay hydrated. Summer workouts make you think you're moving backwards, but after pushing hard through summer you really see the results in late fall and winter.

  • @Dr.RBZultrarunningnewbie
    @Dr.RBZultrarunningnewbie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great information guys. Ty

  • @mikeseconomicaffairs
    @mikeseconomicaffairs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. Very informative and comprehensive!

  • @r_unner_G
    @r_unner_G 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is really insightful and excellent. Thank you.

  • @salvatorelucignano2743
    @salvatorelucignano2743 ปีที่แล้ว

    Floris, I love your contents. A very big amount of informations for running. Thanks and continue this great activity! 👍

  • @seektruth4432
    @seektruth4432 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow so educational thanks so much for this. I learned a lot with this video and can’t wait to use this new info to help me improve my running and training.

  • @lalalosers323
    @lalalosers323 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I found this incredibly insightful, I’m currently training for my first marathon.

  • @Sonny89-89
    @Sonny89-89 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great Video Floris, can take some great information away from this one!
    Will certainly be doing some sweat testing to work out how much fluid I’m losing to make sure I nail my next marathon

  • @johan7262
    @johan7262 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank god for this video, just what i needed for my first Stockholm Marathon

  • @MrLorenzobringheli
    @MrLorenzobringheli 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Treat video, as always!
    Tank you both!

  • @dustyhoods
    @dustyhoods 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, that's a big amount of themes you've picked up here. Thanks, inspiring.

  • @Weichi928
    @Weichi928 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another insightful interview.
    Thx for sharing.

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Happy to hear that!

  • @arleenm7367
    @arleenm7367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the discussion! It's funny how things have changed over the years. I remember the days when there was only water and cola in marathons (1990s) and only maybe 3 water stops along the course.

  • @Britishchapp
    @Britishchapp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content as ever. Keep up the good work 👍🏻👌🏻

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Happy to hear that Andy, thanks!

  • @Ultra-Lawyer
    @Ultra-Lawyer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is one of the best videos I’ve seen on race nutrition. Best part was the advice with the caveat that everyone is different. Since my ultra journey, I’ve been focused on eating/drinking while running, but lately, preloading vitamins and minerals such as calcium, potassium, and magnesium prevents cramping or real fatigue during the longer training runs. And what I find is, on race day, you default to how well you performed during training, and with a focus on nutrition, the race is more enjoyable. Great content!

    • @Weichi928
      @Weichi928 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just a note.
      Sodium, Calcium and Magnesium are minerals and not vitamins.
      But you are right about nutrition being totally important.
      Enjoy the run.

  • @sigepohio
    @sigepohio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really love the talk on nutrition. I feel like it's one of those aspects of my performance that no matter how many times I practice, it still seems like not enough. Lol
    Really dig the tip of practicing taking in gels early in a long run and practicing taking in nutrition in a variety of conditions.

  • @thesceptic1018
    @thesceptic1018 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely brilliant, so good to hear from someone who knows the literature.

  • @jmbaug1229
    @jmbaug1229 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for this video ! I am a beginner runner training for my first race next year and your content is very useful 👌🏼 👍🏻 😀
    💙 from London
    J.

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stoked to hear that. Just booked my flight to London for the 2024 marathon. All the best on your first race next year. Enjoy the training process.

  • @barkleyhunt3227
    @barkleyhunt3227 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!!!

  • @dsfrye01
    @dsfrye01 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Such a great content. This is such valuable and necessary information that if you want your running journey to be the best you can be, you have to get the nutrition right. Thank you Floris.

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Happy to hear that Scott, the nutritional component can surely make a big impact in your running and health journey! Cheers

  • @jarekbatkowski9039
    @jarekbatkowski9039 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Floris! What a great podcast right here, very helpful and refreshing again, well done! 💪 I found it very interesting although I run mainly in the mountains. In regards to the way you can carry salts pills with you and keep them dry and intact in one place....hmmm...I never though about the tape🙃 but what I use is a small plastic container removed from the chocolate Kinder Surprise eggs for kids. It doesn't require much space, and can be put in a waist belt pocket for example. I actually thought that every running parent would figure that out but as we can see that's not the case 😆 so if you ever want to do a podcast with me about it, let me know.🤣 Good luck in Berlin!🤟

  • @thunkaboutit
    @thunkaboutit 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TRICK TO GET RID OF SIDE ACHE WHILE RUNNING!: Floris, I am retired military, a long-time ISSA fitness and strength trainer, and an ultra runner. I am currently training for a 250-mile race in 2024. Great podcast. Thank you!!
    Back in the 90s, I read an article that shared a trick to get rid of side aches when running. Could be a mental thing, but it works almost every time for me.
    EXAMPLE: (Ache/cramp is on the left side) Two nose inhales, into exhale through the mouth.
    EXECUTION: The first nose inhale will be when your left foot hits the ground, the next nose inhale is when your right foot hits the ground. Exhale out of your mouth when your left foot hits the ground. Sample: Left foot strikes ground (quick inhale through nose), Right foot strikes the ground (quick inhale through nose), Left foot strikes again (Exhale through the mouth).
    NOTE: If you're running fast, it's a quick in, in, out. I haven't had cramps in years, but this worked for me and a lot of my service members.
    Keep up the great work!!

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great call, the double inhale, hard exhale is something I personally do as well. Dr Andrew Huberman has posted some scientific evidence behind this calming the nervous system as well.
      Enjoy your Cocodona training, assuming you're talking about Cocodona 250 in 2024. Great race, I was there the first year, it's no joke. Get plenty of hiking training in with poles. Enjoy!

  • @user-jc5tj1bv7i
    @user-jc5tj1bv7i ปีที่แล้ว

    What a discussion @ Floris. Have used precision fueling for 1 year , training and racing. One of the best hydration.

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice, happy to hear you've been enjoying their products as well! Cheers

  • @JohnBirtchetSharpe
    @JohnBirtchetSharpe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have been training with precision hydration products for over a year now , its not the only good fuel provider but its the one I swear by. Both the products and staff are top notch Mel Varvel from Athlete support .. nice personal touch .. anyway once again great interview Floris the information provided was extreamly useful and one I have been waiting for .. just hope they pickup on the the PEZ style dispenser for thier sodium capsles (I say style as I dont want to get anyone in trouble with Patrafico AG) .

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stoked to hear you've also had positive experiences with PF&H products for a while now. Their staff is very knowledgeable and passionate about helping athletes on their training and racing journey. Yeh that PEZ style dispenser we should talk to their team about. Surely sounds better than the tin can with wet salt pills flying out while racing :)

  • @user-pb3ri7lo3s
    @user-pb3ri7lo3s ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the advice to really prioritize training my gut to tolerate gels in the last few weeks before a race. I have never been successful in doing this and maybe I just need to practice this way more than other runners

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes training your gut to digest calories, also at higher intensity, can make a big difference. Long runs with fast finish can be a great training run for this as an example.

  • @FlorisGierman
    @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว +3

    🚨GIVEAWAY to win a $100 PATH projects gift card! What was your favorite takeaway, lesson or quote from this video? To enter the contest, subscribe and comment below. Congrats @adventureairwaves on winning this contest prize. Here are the timestamps:
    00:00 common mistakes with bonking
    01:53 welcome Andy!
    02:41 common mistakes with fueling
    02:26 race distance, intensity and carb intake
    08:25 digestive system, tolerance
    13:06 development of energy gels
    16:47 cramp!
    21:47 science of sweat
    26:29 electrolyte deficiency
    29:50 online electrolyte calculator
    31:22 weather conditions and nutrition intake
    34:52 gel consistency and flavor
    36:42 salt pill tactics
    38:17 side-aches (stitch)
    41:20 journaling to identify areas for improvement
    44:15 relax, it’s not over ‘til it’s over!
    49:11 gender and fueling + hydration
    52:06 find out more about Precision Hydration
    53:44 closing thoughts

  • @raymondwade2433
    @raymondwade2433 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a new subscriber and this podcast has been a wealth of information. Soon I’ll be training for a 65 mile ruck with a minimum 25 pound rucksack weight. The 65 miles must be completed under 24 hours. This is a wilderness ruck. My diet for the past 8 months has been strictly carnivore. Recently I completed a 18.3 mile ruck with a 45 lbs rucksack at 4:19. No nutrition during the ruck, just sugar free electrolytes. I’ll be adding some carbs in preparation for and during the 65 mile event. I just ordered some of the gels. The carb calculator did not have rucking as an athletic activity, but was useful.

  • @medsuit1686
    @medsuit1686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a period recently where i would get stitches outside of running during running and often in the first 4k of my run.
    Really mysterious thing stitches are.
    I found what worked for me if i had it during a run is breath out hard, then apply pressure and push up in the area of the stitch relatively hard and then breath in deep.
    It worked as quick pain relief for me, sometimes after a run the area was soar just from putting pressure on it with my fingers though xD

  • @franciscotoro9454
    @franciscotoro9454 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All the preparation for hte marathon takes place 2-3 weeks prior. Teh final week is just putting final touches. The previous night's meal is meaningless. To emphasize this, Carlos Lopes of Portugal ate a steak dinner the night before the 1984 Olympic marathon, which he won in an Olympic record time. The body can absorb only so much "nutrition" prior to any stressful event. Once the system is fully loaded, the rest goes down the swirling bowl. Drinking too much water before the start will demand you stop for a drain as it happened to Steve Jones in the 1985 London marathon, where he drank a bit too much in the early stages so he had to make a pit stop. The idea is to maintain hydration, not increase it as, like food extra water will simply find its way to the bladder. The balancing act is practiced and refined during the long training runs so that the runner knows pretty well how much to drink and when. Like most things with running, it's all about practise, practise, practise.

  • @Tani0415
    @Tani0415 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you re: cramping.
    I just did my 2nd marathon yesterday and glute cramps hit me at 15km. I still finished but I will look into it.

  • @tomharvey-run
    @tomharvey-run 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had the best race coming 4th in North Downs Way 100 miler (my first one) using Precision Fuel & Hydration (hourly mix of 30G Gels/30G Chews and mini Chia Bars with 1500 Electrolyte tablets). No cramps, stable energy with online calculator results being spot on. Good interview. Thanks

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Awesome, love hear that. Well done Tom

  • @ourwilliam2405
    @ourwilliam2405 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is by far the best podcast

  • @robertdellangelo
    @robertdellangelo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great program. Best quote for me was the observation that having a vague plan to eat and drink a bit more isn’t sufficient. I was religious In planning carb intakes for my first 100 but then fell into the trap of thinking since I’d checked the box my body would know what to do. I need to get back to basics and plan specifically because when the brain fog sets in late the lack of a specific, actionable plan isn’t a good strategy.

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Totally Robert, that's why I sometimes set an alarm on my watch to get reminded when to take in calories. In the early stages of a race your brain still functions well, while this definitely gets tricker when we get tired. Glad you enjoyed the video!

    • @phacocataractdrlvkraju5
      @phacocataractdrlvkraju5 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greaaaat tips, really appreciate them.A Big Thanks

  • @llandarek1
    @llandarek1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's an interesting interview. Really enjoyed it. I went to Precision Fuel & Hydration and got my "personalised" plan but it doesn't count for conditions. One of the obvious is sugar levels for diabetics. Obviously, I can't go for such a "personalised" plan as taking carbs rich meals 2x days before the run isn't an option for me. Anyways, the talk was really good.

  • @agsmith001
    @agsmith001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for the interesting discussion. i find the discussion on cramps insightful when looking at the other topics from that perspective. ie "everyone has their own personal recipe for cramps" esp with regards to nutrition. you discussion on carbs vs fats is to me overly simplistic and this model should apply there also as everyone has a different level of fat adaptation and ability to quickly use it for energy.

  • @GrumpyOldEd
    @GrumpyOldEd ปีที่แล้ว

    Duh! I ordered before I saw the 10 reduction code at the end of the video. 🥴. Great video, info. 👍

  • @jeffhaynes1643
    @jeffhaynes1643 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting vid. I always struggled with fueling and hated gels. Over many years of running marathons and ultras I never dialed that in. Of course back when I was running marathons I was eating all the time including in the middle of the night, and my overall nutrition was just terrible. I have spent a lot of time changing that and am getting most of my calories from protein and fats now a days. Maybe at some point I like to dip my toes back into long distance running.

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Jeff, the type of calories you're taking in for daily life can surely make a difference. Same here, most of my calories these days from from fats and also protein. Surely less cravings and waking up hungry. Enjoy your running and health journey. Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @mrmedic2012
    @mrmedic2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos Floris. I live in Riverside CA, I have done the LA Marathon 3 times. My PR IS 3:56 I know I'm faster. I will be in touch with you soon, I need a coach.

  • @Fortunate1990
    @Fortunate1990 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The last LSD run I went on, about 10 miles in a breezy 60°F, just easy and enjoying the day along the lake front. Got back to my car caked in salt. I’m so salty I can exfoliate my skin by just rubbing it.
    Shout out to all my fellow flop sweat Salt Licks out there 👋🏽😄

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha, you are surely not alone on that one @Fortunate1990! It's pretty wild to see the differences between athletes in sweat rates and sodium content!

  • @chrisvanbuggenum871
    @chrisvanbuggenum871 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't know why precision fuel and hydration don't have electrolytes in their gels. I tried the jumbo gel, i liked it, but it stated that it should be taken with their own drink which in a race or even a training run (as i don't carry water) isn't going to happen. It made me go back to SIS gels.

  • @annagunn3469
    @annagunn3469 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoy Big Bear! It was gorgeous! They lie about the hills, there are actually quite a few big ups and downs early on.

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว

      Excited for this race. Thanks for the heads up about the up hills too. Often underestimated with races like CIM too. Cheers!

  • @TheOne-ik5vc
    @TheOne-ik5vc ปีที่แล้ว

    what i would like to know is the science behind of the fructose side for fulling additional. since the liver is the only organ in the body that can process it. is the liver not already busy while running?

  • @alanrobinson2229
    @alanrobinson2229 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Started watching this,but then had to turn off as it's all about carbs.
    Iam on low carb diet and training to burn body fat/ ketones.But I havnt got fuelling right yet,would be good to have a low carb guest.
    BTW,my initial motivation for low carb diet,was to challenge my prostate cancer.

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi Alan, hope you're recovering well from your prostate cancer. There is a difference in carb intake in training, racing and daily life.
      For the past 10 years I have been following a low-ish carb, higher fat approach for my nutrition in daily life and most training. That being said, I have found around harder / longer training sessions and on race day, that higher carb intake will give me more energy for longer. So you go into the race well fat adapted, however when you race at high intensity for a long time like a marathon, taking in enough carbs will optimize your performance and push back the wall to avoid bonking!
      All the best on your health and running journey!

    • @alanrobinson2229
      @alanrobinson2229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@FlorisGierman Thank you.
      It does concern me that generally there is a push towards high carb intake generally and that this will lead to long term health issues and injuries.

    • @GTE_Channel
      @GTE_Channel ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@FlorisGierman that's what's fascinates me most about Hassan's performance in London. If this isn't a win for fasted training I dont know what is.
      I do agree with Alan that for general dietary advice carbs are pushed way to much.

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alanrobinson2229 totally get it. I've interviewed several guests on The Extramilest Show that talk about positive experiences and recommendations around low carb / high fat approach. For example, here are 5:
      * Dr Maffetone www.youtube.com/@FlorisGierman/search?query=dr%20maffetone
      * Dr Mark Cucuzzella www.youtube.com/@FlorisGierman/search?query=mark%20cucuzzella
      * Kara Collier th-cam.com/video/Rhn0HMXy-bM/w-d-xo.html
      * Tawnee Gibson - th-cam.com/video/mgGTSPk_tko/w-d-xo.html
      * Zach Bitter www.youtube.com/@FlorisGierman/search?query=zach%20bitter

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GTE_Channel yes Hassan absolutely crushed it at the London marathon. That being said, I think fasted training (no calories or hydration) for all your runs including for example Hassan's 24 mile / 40km runs, will do more harm than good for most non-elite athletes. It can be an added stress on top of daily / life stress. We talk about this more in this Extramilest Show with Tawnee Gibson - th-cam.com/video/mgGTSPk_tko/w-d-xo.html

  • @seatownfan
    @seatownfan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Get gels that are easy to open or someone should make a better package.

  • @silversurfer5400
    @silversurfer5400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is there any advice for runners relying on a ketogenic diet? is there even a plausible way to properly fuel during longer session without simply just baning carbs? fat based food tend to be heavy to carry and complicated to eat. i have yet to see somebody eating an avocado on a run. Also the metabolism might simply just take too long to transform fats into energy. Any suggestions on this? Thanks... great Interview

  • @henridanielski9318
    @henridanielski9318 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have every monday headache, too.😅

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว

      haha, glad I wasn't the only one!

  • @olivierauberger
    @olivierauberger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great! I fell asleep. I can't have any gel. I have tried mutiple times, there is no way I can digest these. Solids for me!

  • @scoobtoober2975
    @scoobtoober2975 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two causes for side ache for me. One was liver pain/cramp every time. I had to do the cramp/dips, sprint and dip. It helped. Then my life changing high fat/low processed crap OMAD etc. All the things. It cured it for good. I can run 6 miles, zero side pain, monumental change to keep up this new awesome hobby. I hated running for the side ache and couldn't go long.
    Today if i eat just before it can be on either side and hurts. But it's a minimal wait after eating to stop it.

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nutrition and timing can surely make a difference!

  • @stephena1639
    @stephena1639 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Table salt and table sugar (sucrose and fructose 1:1)

  • @SpindlyScoudrel
    @SpindlyScoudrel ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Few good beers in the jacuzzi last night" - no better quote😂

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Spot on, it's always a good way to relax. 😂
      Non-Alcoholic Beers for me, still a nice way to end the day :)

    • @FolmerFredslund
      @FolmerFredslund ปีที่แล้ว

      @Floris, what are some of your favourite non-alcoholic beers?

  • @WorldT
    @WorldT ปีที่แล้ว

    yes the part about doing ultras and eating normal food then vs just gels makes sense, running an event that makes u run 24 hours , just consuming gels the whole time could give a mental sickness after a few hours , maybe

  • @mateusz3162
    @mateusz3162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So salt and banana is (probably not only) your best budget option :)

  • @mattww2902
    @mattww2902 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dose potassium play a part in your hydration and protection from cramps?

  • @ghostriley1855
    @ghostriley1855 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I swear Ive heard your voice somewhere before. Are you the voice in the Eizelganger youtube channel?

  • @michaeladrian5589
    @michaeladrian5589 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Open a gel once exhausted it exploded up my nose and in my eye. Lmao for sure practice lol

  • @louiscannavino3271
    @louiscannavino3271 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:25 Digestive tolaris

  • @davebowerman9869
    @davebowerman9869 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In a 4 hour marathon should I take 2 x 60ml SIS gels every hour?

  • @adventureairwaves
    @adventureairwaves ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff! With low heart rate training, do you think that the 180 formula should be adjusted when someone's max heart rate is vastly different than what is expected for their age?

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes in some cases that's needed

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi @adventureairwaves congrats on winning this contest prize, a $100 PATH projects gift card. See pinned comment to confirm you’re the winner. Please email me to claim your prize. Cheers, Floris Gierman

    • @adventureairwaves
      @adventureairwaves 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FlorisGierman Wooohooo! Awesome. Cheers!

  • @richardmiddleton7770
    @richardmiddleton7770 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kipchoge apparently can burn 1.5g+/min of fat, that's 800+ kcal per hour in fat alone. Technically he could have done a sub 2 marathon without ingesting anything and what he did consume most likely had just a placebo affect. Killian Jornet can also run for hours in mountains without food. It's all in the training.

  • @gerrysecure5874
    @gerrysecure5874 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The calorie need is about weight x distance regardless of speed. So an elite runner doing a marathon at 60kg in 2 hours needs 2400kcal and a hobby runner at 80kg finishing in 4 hours needs 3200kcal. The difference is the fast runner runs 2hrs at a high relative intensity that needs ~90% carbs while the slower one runs for 4 hrs and thus at a much lower relative intensity and needs less carbs (50-70%) and more fats (50-30%) IF he is reasonably endurance trained and fat adapted which we assume for marathon participants. So the elite needs 2200 kcal carbs and the slower maybe 1600-2000kcal. With a need of 1600 kcal you can get quite far with your stored in body carbs and don't really need 100g per hour. 50g/hr is probably enough. Training one run/week on low carb instead stuffing helps to develop the ability

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Curious where you got this info from Gerry?

    • @gerrysecure5874
      @gerrysecure5874 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FlorisGierman Short answer, 15 years of studying tons of scientific papers on sport, training science, nutrition and so on. There is not a single study that proves all above. Every piece I mentioned is publicly known information but you must put together the pieces to build a picture. I'm not able to send you a list of 100 links, because I read a study, remember the info and forget where I read it and I'm not through the process to dig it out to satisfy anyones curiosity. Feel free to google through the jungle, within a few hours you should find confirmation of the pieces I said. 🤷‍♂️
      Again, the 100g/hr of carbs make sense for an elite runner who runs at 90% threshold fo 2 hours, but a hobby runner running at maybe 70% (because he runs much longer) runs at FatMax and simply does not need so many carbs.
      Principles must be applied in the context of actual numbers.

  • @richardmiddleton7770
    @richardmiddleton7770 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most people will be running a marathon well below LT2 so you'd be surprised how little carbs you need during a marathon if you have trained correctly. If you're having gels during your 1-2hr training runs, good luck.

  • @Damaris_Music
    @Damaris_Music 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tighten my abs when i cramp, for a little bit, then the cramping seems to go away on its own as i continue to run

  • @nikitaw1982
    @nikitaw1982 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so whats the formulae?

  • @smokingpixel9631
    @smokingpixel9631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed this but was disapointed the whole Low Carb training and racing lifestyle was not discussed?

    • @tomasricci9865
      @tomasricci9865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too. Seems like health and performance don't go together in this matter.

  • @williamchase5698
    @williamchase5698 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does METS figure into the calculation.......

  • @AlbertWeijers
    @AlbertWeijers ปีที่แล้ว

    The pain (stitch) in the side, isn't that caused bij shortage of blood in the spleen?

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Albert, we're not exactly sure what causes side stitches, but one theory is that side stitches are caused by eating too close to exercise. Also, it might be due to irritation of the diaphragm and nearby muscles from quick, shallow breaths during exercise. Another idea is that they're caused by stretching ligaments connected to the diaphragm and internal organs, like the liver.
      There's no confirmed answer I'm aware of, but to avoid side stitches, stop eating solid foods at least 60-90 minutes before exercising. Try taking deep, controlled breaths when running, warm up well, and work on strengthening your core. If you get a side stitch, slow down and focus on your breathing. I'm not a doctor, but I hope this helps! Have fun out there on your runs!

  • @CarnivoreDMD
    @CarnivoreDMD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to disagree with fructose

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What about it do you disagree with and why?

    • @CarnivoreDMD
      @CarnivoreDMD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FlorisGierman Fructose follows a similar route as does ETOH and is stored primarily as fat in the liver. Fructose IF bound with fiber can make it to the colon for bacterial fermentation digestion but not something you want during exercise. I had NAFLD due to regular consumption of local raw honey, which is @50% fructose thinking it was a “healthy” sugar. If I were to use carbs during long events, I wouldn’t use fructose containing aids. Although I believe Dr Lustig is one of leading research practitioners in this area. I did run by this YT video concerning low carb athletics & I see so many “trying” keto as a diet but it has to be a lifestyle change, for at least 3 months but I found continued improvements (healed a torn meniscus with no surgery) took @1.5yrs. th-cam.com/video/w8E8koDwFBQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RkOzAtPS8fJZb2ZA

    • @CarnivoreDMD
      @CarnivoreDMD 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FlorisGierman And this discussion on how regular consumption of fructose damages ATP which produces URIC acid causing an increase in Bp & eventually metabolic syndrome & possibly diabetes. It explains why so many of us “former” endurance athletes from the 80’s-90’s ended up with metabolic syndrome & DM2 as we aged out. th-cam.com/video/JTxkAK82e0I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uW2YbXo9MlZPlYXh

  • @GeorgeEdwardsVlog
    @GeorgeEdwardsVlog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did a 14 mile run in 3:30 and drank a boost and nesquick (because it’s all I had readily available). Farted a bunch

  • @dj4deep
    @dj4deep 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, what a load of bull

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tell me more

    • @dj4deep
      @dj4deep 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FlorisGierman first, I apologize for the non polite comment, I didn't expect you to read it. To answer you question, a carnivore diet is better for performance and for health, no need to worry about when and how much to eat as our body handles it naturally. Using carbs instead, indeed is difficult

    • @FlorisGierman
      @FlorisGierman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dj4deepI read every comment and realize there are commenters who forget there are actual humans behind TH-cam channels.