Same! Amanda's grown on me. I agree the clips anywhere on IG has her just looking like a complete bitch. But if you watch the full episodes there's balance.
I think us black women of all shades need to share our experiences & raise our daughters in a way that they won’t hurt each other in the ways we have. All of our experiences our valid. I think this is an important topic.
@@emmabanks9168 Love this. I the only light skin in my fam, and my parents gave everyone room to discuss their experiences. My parents didn’t play the “you’re privileged cuz of you skin tone” game which I am thankful for because I very much so did experience colorism just like my darker siblings. Where I live being black is the worst thing you can be, so light or dark, we all got treat horribly.
This! I’m a lightskin black woman who has kids with a Darkskin man… my daugther took after her dad while my son took after me…it’s going be hard difficult conversations But we need to educate our children so this hate & separation in our society can stop. We are all black people who come in many different shades, textures & features
I feel your pain because I got picked on in middle school about that! It’s not talking white it’s speaking proper and sounding like I paid attention in class🤦🏾♀️
When i spoke about my experience as a light skinned child to my mother recently about growing up around all darker skinned family from her side and some of the experiences with girls at school, she took offense and told me don't bring up the topic nomore bcs it just doesnt hold enough weight vs what dark skinned women have to go through. She said I've benefitted my entire life not only being light skinned but so called pretty privilege even. I never brought up the conversation again, i am glad to see other light skinned women speaking on the topic. I wish more did..i believe the support should be on both ends because there is hurt on both ends.
@@Justyn-ns8jowhat kind of person makes such an effort to distort plain and simple expressions of one's experience into exploitation??? How sad for you that you cannot see beyond yourself.
I had to learn about others experience when it came to being black because my little cousin is light skinned and constantly was being bullied or picked on because she was light skinned. I’m dark skinned and I assumed she wouldn’t have problems. I had to be willing to learn and understand then acknowledge the different experiences because I didn’t want to look at my cousin and say “it doesn’t matter” when she’s upset about being bullied for being light skinned. It was definitely a sister sister moment.
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 WHAT ABOUT ACKNOWLEDGING THEM BEING BULLIED IS "DIMINISHING" DEAR? LOL 😆 🤔 U NEED TO READ THE DEFINITION OF COLORISM! THESE 2 LIGHTSKIN GIRLS HAVE NOT & WILL NEVER EXPERIENCE IT TO HAVE A "CONVERSATION" BUT LIKE I SAID NO BODY DESERVES BEING BULLIED HOWEVER IT IS A MAJOR EXPERIENCE FOR MANY KIDS K-12 IN GENERAL.
Man, I didn’t know I needed this honestly. My experience was people telling me I didn’t have real problems cause I was light skinned. This podcast made me realize how much I internalized that narrative subconsciously that it blocks me from really dealing with my issues cause I really believed the things I went through weren’t truly “bad”. So this started a good conversation with myself and I’m working on some things lol! Thanks Mona and Amanda for this!
Yes!!! This conversation is so relatable. I NEVER want to discredit my more melanated sisters experience EVER. I strongly feel like a lot of our men started the perpetuation with the "lighter skin is more desirable" and some of us have run with that narrative. I have always made it a point to challenge that thought with my black men and dig deeper into WHY they do that. It frustrates me whenever I see any of us do that comparison. So many more thoughts but this is good. oK BACK TO THE EPISODE :)
My hi-yella sister and mom have both gone thru this stuff all their lives. There are people who hate them, but love me based on nothing more than the fact that my skin tone is easier to digest… I’m right in the middle of the black spectrum. My sis got bullied and picked on ALL THE TIME! Folks treated her like she was conceited and I was shy, when we both were just raised to be quiet kids… I’m glad y’all are speaking up for yourselves and people like you. This conversation was much needed and needs to grow. You could do a whole series on how differently shaded people are treated differently and at the end reunite everybody and go on retreat to start the healing. It would be better than another Real Housewives reunion 😂
She doesn’t like it at all… neither does my mama. They both buy makeup two shades too dark and insist that they aren’t really that light all the time. Sometimes I wonder if they are ashamed of it. As to why I would write this, I think anything that separates us and causes intra-racial conflict needs to change. White folks who hate ALL black folks use the petty ways we treat each other as an excuse to keep people down. We judge folks for stuff like where they live and how educated they are, not just how bright their skin is… but all of it is rooted in white supremacy. I wanna see us prosper as a people but if we can’t get past petty stuff, that will never happen
I haven’t watched Amanda in years, pretty sure this got recommended because of Mona. This was a duo I didn’t know I needed, love how you ladies continuously show up as yourselves ❤️
It's my 1st time to the TH-cam page, I usually listen on Spotify....BUT lemme say this, Amanda Seales is a national black treasure that must be protected at all cost!!!! She is that precious. And also I love this episode. The dynamic is so smooth and entertaining yet enlightening. I'd pay top dollar to see yall do a pod or talk show.
I LOVED and appreciated this. I definitely feel like ppl want me to be ashamed of the literal skin I was born in that happens to be light, and baby I’m sorry but it ain’t happenin. I’m the only light bright in my family and I think by default I can’t see anything other than beauty in chocolate and dark chocolate skin. One will never cancel out the other for me!
@OnnaMargret-zv4gc Oh, I guess you’re right. I must’ve been walking around with a filter my whole life. Guess I came out the vag with a filter too. Thank you for the correction❤️
Get over it! People in Ukraine are dying from drone attack so I'm sure you can survive a few words of insult. Black people are such wannabe victims omg!
So what is it called when you're being disrespected because you're light skinned. It definitely happens. I have never expressed colorism to anyone yet I've had people judge me because I'm light-skinned when I've done nothing to them.
I really loved the talk on colorism and being lightskined !! I also think it was a really good point made in having these type of conversations with yt people too and not just in the black community!!!!! Also I Lovveee your pink setup🎀💖!!!
This was a great podcast! As a deeper pigmented black woman (born to and around light skinned women), I’ve experienced and seen somethings. It became my responsibility to extract myself from the mammy archetype, beginning that all of them had a ton of drama being the highly preferred. Unfortunately, my mother prioritized her visibility over the protection of her only darkskinned child. We come out as we are and we are born to who we were. In my undersirablity, I had to learn to cultivate my sense of worth. Everyone doesn’t survive it and it makes me sad. For those of us who are still snubbed, I strongly suggest you become your own advocate. You are your best ally. No one platform will be able to fully address your hurts, past/present. As much as it sucks, you are at a major advantage to really Seeeeee people for who you are. Just know there are better people. I really appreciated them talking about the success portion, with your come up. It’s sooo true! People get weird when others excel!! And sometimes they have more than you!! SMH!! But on the colorism part… dark skinned women… live the life you truly want! Transcend. The light skinned women have preference and black men tend to be gatekeepers. I strongly believe there is plenty and a world outside of all of these things. When people show you that you are not worth being prioritized, pay them dust. Alchemize your rage. ✨
Darkskin women have plenty of options and plenty of us black men love them I’m a dark skin man with a dark skin women. My preference is not light skin and there is a lot of us like that. Stop speaking for us because it’s obvious you don’t know us. Now if your overweight like your name implies I can understand your issues. But if your an attractive dark skin women that’s in shape you won’t have any problems dating any kind of man. Stop with the propaganda.
@@mcbthird I don't know if this comment is for me. I am dark skinned and I am BIG...in every aspect. This was a first person testament of my journey. I can not reconcile your point, but I would love the see the collective get to a place to make room for other's POV. I do not need to go out of my way to disqualify anyone else's journey to highlight my own..kinship in struggle or not. Be very well.
Another brilliant convo.. tricky subject & you guys managed to be sensitive to that yet funny throughout 💗( Geordi is too cute 😍love how he makes an appearance every episode! )
I like when Mona gets interviewed. I think what makes this work so good is that Amanda is steering the conversation and then Mona is being her awesome self.
My mother told me when she was getting married to my father she was told by her cousin that my father would appreciate, value her more because she was light skinned. This was late fifties Jamaica. No he didn’t value her any more. He likely thought he would be respected more because he was married to a light skinned woman. Double foolishness!Marriage didn’t last long. Just enough for two kids.
Great collab! I didn’t even know about Mona before this. Good dialog on a real topic. As a dark father of two light daughters and a brown daughter, the dynamics are complex. Thanks to both of you for opening up and sharing your truth from your experience. It is valid. ✊🏾
I love this segment and as a light skinned women, representation matters and colorism is so real especially in Midwest. These people are so anti-black it is sad; I mean black folks. Glad this convo is taking place .
I love how y’all just speaking strictly from your own experience and not tryna be spokes persons for all lightskin people. Very tasteful. Thought it was bout to get sad for a second there in the middle but y’all did ya thing 🫶🏽 no one enjoys these conversations (and it’s definitely least interesting coming from a lighty) ..but it’s necessary and I applaud Amanda for not forcing the conversation. I’m sure she could have got a whole bunch of darkskin people to get on here and talk about it with them but I like this personal approach and it exhibits the level of trust that we have to start having in our community.
I'm a dark skinned black woman and got a lot of colorism in school for being dark. I remember a light skinned girl saying to me one day when I walked into class damn she black. The whole class started laughing. It really hurt. I was hearing guys say dark skinned girls have attitudes. That comment annoyed me because I'm a quiet introvert raised by Creo women who were red boned. My whole family was light but me at the time. So if I have attitude it came from the women in my family who are light skinned who taught me to love my skin and the woman I am.
My mother comes from a creole speaking country 🇩🇲. My mother is a red skin woman, always taught me and my sisters to love my skin shade. Its very interesting how someone can behave the same as another but treated so differently due to the shade of their skin. Keep your head up sis ❤
Get over it! Same goes for light skinned women...just get over it already. People are dying in Ukraine so I'm sure you and your light skinned black girls can survive mere words of insult. Besides, EVERyONe gets bullied regardless.
Wow 🎉 I love this episode. I’ve been following Amanda all my life and Mona for the past two year. I really appreciate both of their perspectives and wisdom. I love that they collaborated again. ❤
Love that disclaimer in the beginning of the comment because it’s the first time I’m commenting. I love you guys. You need to have a segment with you both all the time on different topics you should collaborate constantly needed in my life. You guys are good with each other.
I just had a conversation with my best friend who is also mixed about how I don't like when men date me just because I'm light skin but look Hispanic & all their ex are Hispanic,. My mama, aunties & 52 cousins who all raised me are gorgeous black (dark skin) women . So I do get offended.
I love this queen! I am dark skinned and I have white and black people tell me I have white features and act white but it’s still offensive because that is also associated with my beauty. I also take offense and dismiss black men who tell me I am the first black woman they will date SMH We have a lot of healing to do in our community 🙏🏾
We are all beautiful. That's the beauty of it all that we come in all different shades!. Colorism is just a ploy from the enemy to keep us separated and at odds, and it's worked!. Let's stop colorism . No one is better than the other every woman regardless of color have some type of beauty about them and we all have different experiences. I'm glad to see lighter complexion women not afraid to talk about this. We gotta stop the comparisons and spread the Love! ❤
This was a really great conversation. I think part of the frustrations in the colorism conversations are a few things: 1. There needs to be a distinction between being light-skinned and being biracial. Meaning, there's a difference between Tisha Campbell and Halle Berry. Growing up with a white parent, especially if the white parent is the mom, vs having two monoracial black parents and being light skinned with more typical black features and hair. 2. The fear for darker skinned women is erasure. When biracial people become the representation for blackness, and we see this happening more and more, the needs of darker skinned people don't get addressed. There are privileges within and outside of the black community when you're biracial. Even though you know you're black, you can often be perceived as being another race/ethnic group (equating to better treatment, pay, opportunities, etc.), which is usually not the case for darker skinned folks. 3. There has to be room for biracial/light-skinned folks to talk about their trauma, without being dismissed. While also recognizing that they will have more privileges, primarily in systematic and structural ways that darker skinned people don't.
@@2manystories2tell43 😬😬 It may be time for me to have another rewatch because I always saw her as not really looking for long-term relationships and just having fun, so the dudes would be kinda wack since they were meant to be temporary lol Let me go see if I'm forgetting a bunch of stuff.
@@2manystories2tell43 I don't think Kelli was ever desperate. I think Kelli was a fat Black woman who was comfortable and secure enough in herself that she went after whoever she wanted whenever she wanted them. And if she didn't want them anymore they were gone. It's not often you see a fat Black woman taking agency like that. It's usually some insecurity ingrained in their character about being fat and/or brown and that wasn't her case. I feel like there's obvious tropes and then there's tropes we see based on personal perception and her being "desperate" was not an actual trope. She was fine, knew she was fine, loved men but never actually or literally chased any man ever
@@MrsMarten3987 Kelli's character did evolve after the 1st couple of seasons and thank goodness for that, but a fat black woman chasing men is the same old tired trope used over and over again. It immediately reminded me of Nikki Parker, Monique's character in the Parkers. It would've been great to see the men chase her.
@@2manystories2tell43 a couple of the men were all over her, so idk. For the most part a few of them were more interested in Kelli than she was in them. I feel like if her storyline was expanded we would've seen her be chased. But I can't name enough shows were this was a trope. So again it's personal perception. In regard to Nikki Parker, the show was stereotypical and comedic so I don't hold it to serious standards. But I will say Nikki was fine as hell and men often chased her as well. The professor wasn't in her league but that's another story. In that case, she was written to be desperate for that one man. But she was far from desperate for the other men in her life. But I get how that can be considered a trope
Promoting inclusivity among black women is a really good thing to do. I love this! I think it is very important to realize black features come in all shades and we can build common experiences and bonds between light-skinned and dark-skinned black women that are very different from what we get from bonding /only being around other races of women. It is not a nice feeling to be in a group and not look in any way similar to the other women. I think the ugly feeling many of us, including me, have felt stemmed from otherness and not seeing race/color just puts a bandaid on a wider problem. We, human animals, all have an intense need to be included and inclusivity can come from different levels of positive interactions with other people. The strongest seem to be same-gender experiences and features and these connections must be made for self-esteem and personal growth. However, there are a whole host of other combinations and reasons to make positive connections with other groups of people that also make huge contributions to personal growth in their own way. So while it would be wrong to ignore the problems of racism and colorism it is perfectly fine to have a blend of positive interactions with people based on different reasons.
This conversation felt well intentioned and it is a conversation that feels like it brought all black women together. On a side note, the drama between the pup and Mona was hilarious.
Amanda: My Brother & Me is my favorite show of all time. Still watch it on YT every now and then.❤ Few Things: 1) No offense to you intelligent and beautiful women because I totally understand Amanda’s disclaimer. However, the colorism conversation should include people who have experienced it. I would love to see you all have this discussion with women and men of darker complexions. I never hear black men have this conversation considering they perpetuate it the most and cover up as “preference”. I respect you ladies’ perspectives and I hear you. However, this conversation should go deeper. 2) I think it’s very interesting that Mona brought up getting messages on a dating app more than a darker skinned woman because a lot of people who perpetuate colorism use that as a “flex” or “draw 4 card” because they are “getting picked” and darker skin people are not. Colorism is not all about being chosen by a man, but also lack of fair treatment and inclusivity in other areas/relationships, like the work place and family setting. 3)Mona: I am sorry about your experience/run-in with the law. I wonder if you have ever researched colorism in relation to the law, as well. An example I can think of is “Prison Bae”. Women (and gay men) gushed over because of his look. He was released from prison and received a modeling deal and is also a reality tv star. I have never seen a darker skinned male (or female, for that matter) receive such a response, Grace, or admiration.
@goldengoddess100Having European ancestry and skin complexion are two different things. Someone darker can have more European in them than her. Just saying 🤷
I didn’t know what to expect but as a lighter skin but def non ambiguous black woman (4c) I respect this conversation I love all black women but I go up and off for darker skinned women
I guess it’s a regional thing People call me “red” as a nick name. I’ve always said I was light brown skin not light skinned 😂😂 and I am a bit lighter than I look in this pic
This was a great convo 💯 All shades of black are beautiful ❤ I wish everyone could understand that and uplift each other instead of nitpicking about skin tone!
it may not be colorism but its still prejudice based on someones skin color, something they cant control. My dad experienced this all through his life just for being lightskin they would call him albino and whiteboy and so many other things he was literally bullied for the color of his skin. Having light skin didnt garner him any special privileges.
Sadly that's why our community continues to hurt each other. Misguided and the tough conversations don't get had. So these prejudices, projecting and colorism is still an issue. And as Amada Seales said it's all a by-product of white supremacy.
He went through all that but it wasn’t colorism and that’s okay if his experience doesn’t meet the criteria to be called colorism. Just because it’s not called colorism doesn’t diminish what happened to him, that’s the crux of the convo.
This is a great match! For a girl just as educated as Amanda or maybe what yall would say (sheltered) BUT also a girl who has been to jail, ITS. a great mix. and I love both life experiences and perspectives .❤
Whew* this whoooollllleeee conversation 😢 it makes me so sad that we have to talk about this, being our own worse enemy. As a “red bone, 6ft masculine of center, nonbinary individual-There’s still so much to unpack but I’m glad that you’re going after the difficult topics. Props! 💯🫵🏽❤️✊🏽
Amanda was right the shade room does show her in a certain way. I’m glad this was recommended to me cause I love DCMWG but now I was able to see more of Amanda
Please remind folks to like your post… too many views not enough likes!!! 😊
Never had Amanda’s podcast recommended to me on TH-cam but that shows how much i watch Damona, glad i tuned in this was a good convo
Same! Amanda's grown on me. I agree the clips anywhere on IG has her just looking like a complete bitch. But if you watch the full episodes there's balance.
Ditto! So glad it did!
SAME!
Same!! ❤
Me neither and I did like when she came on Mona show so I love
This pairing works so unexpectedly well
I think us black women of all shades need to share our experiences & raise our daughters in a way that they won’t hurt each other in the ways we have. All of our experiences our valid. I think this is an important topic.
This! Because Im light raising light & brown skin daughters. And I refuse for any complexion to make them feel inferior for any reason!
@@emmabanks9168 Love this. I the only light skin in my fam, and my parents gave everyone room to discuss their experiences. My parents didn’t play the “you’re privileged cuz of you skin tone” game which I am thankful for because I very much so did experience colorism just like my darker siblings. Where I live being black is the worst thing you can be, so light or dark, we all got treat horribly.
This! I’m a lightskin black woman who has kids with a Darkskin man… my daugther took after her dad while my son took after me…it’s going be hard difficult conversations But we need to educate our children so this hate & separation in our society can stop. We are all black people who come in many different shades, textures & features
What's sooooo annoying is being a dark skin woman and being called a white girl because I don't "talk black " foh
I hate hearing "you talk white"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Are people still doing that!!!
@Gloria Brisco some people never been anywhere else sadly
I feel your pain because I got picked on in middle school about that! It’s not talking white it’s speaking proper and sounding like I paid attention in class🤦🏾♀️
So glad to see Mona holding herself accountable about the colorism topic. Playas fuck up too. Love her
When i spoke about my experience as a light skinned child to my mother recently about growing up around all darker skinned family from her side and some of the experiences with girls at school, she took offense and told me don't bring up the topic nomore bcs it just doesnt hold enough weight vs what dark skinned women have to go through. She said I've benefitted my entire life not only being light skinned but so called pretty privilege even. I never brought up the conversation again, i am glad to see other light skinned women speaking on the topic. I wish more did..i believe the support should be on both ends because there is hurt on both ends.
This is definitely a healing episode for all shades of black. Understanding our individual experience with skin.
It’s really not! Light skin profiting off of dark skin trauma
@@Justyn-ns8jowhat kind of person makes such an effort to distort plain and simple expressions of one's experience into exploitation??? How sad for you that you cannot see beyond yourself.
@@TheAmandaSeales oh shit it’s that biracial chick that tries so very hard to prove she’s black
DAMONA IS BRILLANT
I had to learn about others experience when it came to being black because my little cousin is light skinned and constantly was being bullied or picked on because she was light skinned. I’m dark skinned and I assumed she wouldn’t have problems. I had to be willing to learn and understand then acknowledge the different experiences because I didn’t want to look at my cousin and say “it doesn’t matter” when she’s upset about being bullied for being light skinned. It was definitely a sister sister moment.
I’m ready for this convo! Cause it seems like it taboo for light skin girls to discuss colorism and bullying
Well they wouldn't be discussing colorism because it's not happening to them lol 😆 but bullying is a unfortunate experience
@@neosoulsofree883 yes thank you for correcting her !!!
Im dark skinned with 2 beautiful mixed grand daughters. I have had many conversations with them about colorism. Im here to learn something new.
@@neosoulsofree883 Not you diminishing someone else’s experience 💀
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 WHAT ABOUT ACKNOWLEDGING THEM BEING BULLIED IS "DIMINISHING" DEAR? LOL 😆 🤔 U NEED TO READ THE DEFINITION OF COLORISM! THESE 2 LIGHTSKIN GIRLS HAVE NOT & WILL NEVER EXPERIENCE IT TO HAVE A "CONVERSATION" BUT LIKE I SAID NO BODY DESERVES BEING BULLIED HOWEVER IT IS A MAJOR EXPERIENCE FOR MANY KIDS K-12 IN GENERAL.
As a dark complexed woman, I really enjoyed this convo you 2 black women had. Love you both, thx 🥰💯
Man, I didn’t know I needed this honestly. My experience was people telling me I didn’t have real problems cause I was light skinned. This podcast made me realize how much I internalized that narrative subconsciously that it blocks me from really dealing with my issues cause I really believed the things I went through weren’t truly “bad”. So this started a good conversation with myself and I’m working on some things lol! Thanks Mona and Amanda for this!
Yes!!! This conversation is so relatable. I NEVER want to discredit my more melanated sisters experience EVER. I strongly feel like a lot of our men started the perpetuation with the "lighter skin is more desirable" and some of us have run with that narrative. I have always made it a point to challenge that thought with my black men and dig deeper into WHY they do that. It frustrates me whenever I see any of us do that comparison. So many more thoughts but this is good. oK BACK TO THE EPISODE :)
This is why I love Seales.
My hi-yella sister and mom have both gone thru this stuff all their lives. There are people who hate them, but love me based on nothing more than the fact that my skin tone is easier to digest… I’m right in the middle of the black spectrum. My sis got bullied and picked on ALL THE TIME! Folks treated her like she was conceited and I was shy, when we both were just raised to be quiet kids… I’m glad y’all are speaking up for yourselves and people like you. This conversation was much needed and needs to grow. You could do a whole series on how differently shaded people are treated differently and at the end reunite everybody and go on retreat to start the healing.
It would be better than another Real Housewives reunion 😂
Does she like being called high yella? Just asking
@@dinicharice this question is important. so important.
Girl why wud u write this 😅lol 😆
@@dinicharice you dyin for lightskin sistas to hate themselves! Question is weird! Focus on you!
She doesn’t like it at all… neither does my mama. They both buy makeup two shades too dark and insist that they aren’t really that light all the time. Sometimes I wonder if they are ashamed of it. As to why I would write this, I think anything that separates us and causes intra-racial conflict needs to change. White folks who hate ALL black folks use the petty ways we treat each other as an excuse to keep people down. We judge folks for stuff like where they live and how educated they are, not just how bright their skin is… but all of it is rooted in white supremacy. I wanna see us prosper as a people but if we can’t get past petty stuff, that will never happen
I haven’t watched Amanda in years, pretty sure this got recommended because of Mona. This was a duo I didn’t know I needed, love how you ladies continuously show up as yourselves ❤️
Yes !!! Mona had Amanda on her podcast as well, good show, check it out
I love Amanda, she bring the truth and history of our people. Love it.
Came here for my girl Damona but I am here to stay! Amanda is definitely a vibe!
The 1st few minutes already got me weak w/ this dog 😂😂😂😂
It's my 1st time to the TH-cam page, I usually listen on Spotify....BUT lemme say this, Amanda Seales is a national black treasure that must be protected at all cost!!!! She is that precious. And also I love this episode. The dynamic is so smooth and entertaining yet enlightening. I'd pay top dollar to see yall do a pod or talk show.
SAME & SAME I always listen and never watch and this was soooo good!
Oh yayyy!!! Thank you for the love and glad you enjoyed the watch!
I literally loveeeee everything about these two lovely ladies coming together
I LOVED and appreciated this. I definitely feel like ppl want me to be ashamed of the literal skin I was born in that happens to be light, and baby I’m sorry but it ain’t happenin. I’m the only light bright in my family and I think by default I can’t see anything other than beauty in chocolate and dark chocolate skin. One will never cancel out the other for me!
That's how I ammmmm 🙋🏽♀️
And now it's easier with my daughter being chocolate, I know how to uplift her and make her feel how I feel about her.
@OnnaMargret-zv4gc Oh, I guess you’re right. I must’ve been walking around with a filter my whole life. Guess I came out the vag with a filter too. Thank you for the correction❤️
Get over it!
People in Ukraine are dying from drone attack so I'm sure you can survive a few words of insult.
Black people are such wannabe victims omg!
But remember you're beautiful as well!
Been waiting for a real convo like this pertaining to this topic. Ya’ll have great chemistry as well.
Definitely love the camaraderie between you two!!! It just FLOWS!!!!!!!
That “you’re embarrassing me” to the dog was so triggering and real 😂😭 why do they do that to us?!?
Wait til you see him during the Tabitha Brown ep. He was cuttingggggggg upppppppp
So what is it called when you're being disrespected because you're light skinned. It definitely happens. I have never expressed colorism to anyone yet I've had people judge me because I'm light-skinned when I've done nothing to them.
I really loved the talk on colorism and being lightskined !! I also think it was a really good point made in having these type of conversations with yt people too and not just in the black community!!!!! Also I Lovveee your pink setup🎀💖!!!
This was a great podcast! As a deeper pigmented black woman (born to and around light skinned women), I’ve experienced and seen somethings. It became my responsibility to extract myself from the mammy archetype, beginning that all of them had a ton of drama being the highly preferred. Unfortunately, my mother prioritized her visibility over the protection of her only darkskinned child. We come out as we are and we are born to who we were. In my undersirablity, I had to learn to cultivate my sense of worth. Everyone doesn’t survive it and it makes me sad. For those of us who are still snubbed, I strongly suggest you become your own advocate. You are your best ally. No one platform will be able to fully address your hurts, past/present. As much as it sucks, you are at a major advantage to really Seeeeee people for who you are. Just know there are better people. I really appreciated them talking about the success portion, with your come up. It’s sooo true! People get weird when others excel!! And sometimes they have more than you!! SMH!! But on the colorism part… dark skinned women… live the life you truly want! Transcend. The light skinned women have preference and black men tend to be gatekeepers. I strongly believe there is plenty and a world outside of all of these things. When people show you that you are not worth being prioritized, pay them dust. Alchemize your rage. ✨
Darkskin women have plenty of options and plenty of us black men love them I’m a dark skin man with a dark skin women. My preference is not light skin and there is a lot of us like that. Stop speaking for us because it’s obvious you don’t know us. Now if your overweight like your name implies I can understand your issues. But if your an attractive dark skin women that’s in shape you won’t have any problems dating any kind of man. Stop with the propaganda.
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@@mcbthird I don't know if this comment is for me. I am dark skinned and I am BIG...in every aspect. This was a first person testament of my journey. I can not reconcile your point, but I would love the see the collective get to a place to make room for other's POV. I do not need to go out of my way to disqualify anyone else's journey to highlight my own..kinship in struggle or not. Be very well.
Another brilliant convo.. tricky subject & you guys managed to be sensitive to that yet funny throughout 💗( Geordi is too cute 😍love how he makes an appearance every episode! )
I like when Mona gets interviewed. I think what makes this work so good is that Amanda is steering the conversation and then Mona is being her awesome self.
My mother told me when she was getting married to my father she was told by her cousin that my father would appreciate, value her more because she was light skinned. This was late fifties Jamaica. No he didn’t value her any more. He likely thought he would be respected more because he was married to a light skinned woman. Double foolishness!Marriage didn’t last long. Just enough for two kids.
Wow, so the title got me! I’m into this! I’ve been waiting for this to be a conversation because it SEPARATES WOC soooo bad!! I love yall 💜
Loved this episode! You two are magic together. 💚
Great collab! I didn’t even know about Mona before this. Good dialog on a real topic. As a dark father of two light daughters and a brown daughter, the dynamics are complex. Thanks to both of you for opening up and sharing your truth from your experience. It is valid. ✊🏾
I’m dyin’ at the opening scene! I just finished the TS Madison episode and Geordi was acting completely different. 😂
right?! he was on one with Mona😆
Amanda, this is such a delightful conversation.
I love this segment and as a light skinned women, representation matters and colorism is so real especially in Midwest. These people are so anti-black it is sad; I mean black folks. Glad this convo is taking place .
this was a really good show, y'all together is something special
I really love you two together talking about this conversation bc it’s much needed in our community 🫶🏆
I have never heard of Damona, she is hilarious! Amanda this was great. I get so frustrated when a message is wrapped in hatred.
This resonates with me so much!! I’ve had some if not all of those same experiences and I felt when I tell my experience it’s downplayed.
I love how y’all just speaking strictly from your own experience and not tryna be spokes persons for all lightskin people. Very tasteful. Thought it was bout to get sad for a second there in the middle but y’all did ya thing 🫶🏽 no one enjoys these conversations (and it’s definitely least interesting coming from a lighty) ..but it’s necessary and I applaud Amanda for not forcing the conversation. I’m sure she could have got a whole bunch of darkskin people to get on here and talk about it with them but I like this personal approach and it exhibits the level of trust that we have to start having in our community.
I've never heard this conversation before! Thanks Amanda ❤
Love this! I’m joked at your dog taking a good ol nap during the podcast 😂
I'm a dark skinned black woman and got a lot of colorism in school for being dark. I remember a light skinned girl saying to me one day when I walked into class damn she black. The whole class started laughing. It really hurt. I was hearing guys say dark skinned girls have attitudes. That comment annoyed me because I'm a quiet introvert raised by Creo women who were red boned. My whole family was light but me at the time. So if I have attitude it came from the women in my family who are light skinned who taught me to love my skin and the woman I am.
My mother comes from a creole speaking country 🇩🇲.
My mother is a red skin woman, always taught me and my sisters to love my skin shade.
Its very interesting how someone can behave the same as another but treated so differently due to the shade of their skin.
Keep your head up sis ❤
Get over it!
Same goes for light skinned women...just get over it already.
People are dying in Ukraine so I'm sure you and your light skinned black girls can survive mere words of insult.
Besides, EVERyONe gets bullied regardless.
Wow 🎉
I love this episode. I’ve been following Amanda all my life and Mona for the past two year. I really appreciate both of their perspectives and wisdom. I love that they collaborated again. ❤
Two of my favorites! I hope you do more collaborative things ❤
Love that disclaimer in the beginning of the comment because it’s the first time I’m commenting. I love you guys. You need to have a segment with you both all the time on different topics you should collaborate constantly needed in my life. You guys are good with each other.
Been waiting on this. You teased us! Excited for us awkward light-skin girls. ❤
Omg lol 😆 I'm sorry u went threw bullying!🤔 ...most kids do
I am certainly a fan of both of you 🥂
I just had a conversation with my best friend who is also mixed about how I don't like when men date me just because I'm light skin but look Hispanic & all their ex are Hispanic,. My mama, aunties & 52 cousins who all raised me are gorgeous black (dark skin) women . So I do get offended.
I love this queen! I am dark skinned and I have white and black people tell me I have white features and act white but it’s still offensive because that is also associated with my beauty. I also take offense and dismiss black men who tell me I am the first black woman they will date SMH We have a lot of healing to do in our community 🙏🏾
That's because you keep entertaining darkskin dudes. Darkskin men are very color struck and have self hatred and projects it to u
This is the podcast that my soul needed. I have been getting so weary of being double discriminated against.
We are all beautiful. That's the beauty of it all that we come in all different shades!. Colorism is just a ploy from the enemy to keep us separated and at odds, and it's worked!. Let's stop colorism . No one is better than the other every woman regardless of color have some type of beauty about them and we all have different experiences. I'm glad to see lighter complexion women not afraid to talk about this. We gotta stop the comparisons and spread the Love! ❤
The two of you are such a dynamic duo….Luv you ladies 🫶🏽
This was a really great conversation. I think part of the frustrations in the colorism conversations are a few things: 1. There needs to be a distinction between being light-skinned and being biracial. Meaning, there's a difference between Tisha Campbell and Halle Berry. Growing up with a white parent, especially if the white parent is the mom, vs having two monoracial black parents and being light skinned with more typical black features and hair. 2. The fear for darker skinned women is erasure. When biracial people become the representation for blackness, and we see this happening more and more, the needs of darker skinned people don't get addressed. There are privileges within and outside of the black community when you're biracial. Even though you know you're black, you can often be perceived as being another race/ethnic group (equating to better treatment, pay, opportunities, etc.), which is usually not the case for darker skinned folks. 3. There has to be room for biracial/light-skinned folks to talk about their trauma, without being dismissed. While also recognizing that they will have more privileges, primarily in systematic and structural ways that darker skinned people don't.
The story about the character of Tiffany was a great call-out and interesting to learn.
Yes it was. The same "fat and desperate for a man" trope was used for Kelli in the 1st couple of seasons.
@@2manystories2tell43 😬😬 It may be time for me to have another rewatch because I always saw her as not really looking for long-term relationships and just having fun, so the dudes would be kinda wack since they were meant to be temporary lol Let me go see if I'm forgetting a bunch of stuff.
@@2manystories2tell43 I don't think Kelli was ever desperate. I think Kelli was a fat Black woman who was comfortable and secure enough in herself that she went after whoever she wanted whenever she wanted them. And if she didn't want them anymore they were gone. It's not often you see a fat Black woman taking agency like that. It's usually some insecurity ingrained in their character about being fat and/or brown and that wasn't her case. I feel like there's obvious tropes and then there's tropes we see based on personal perception and her being "desperate" was not an actual trope. She was fine, knew she was fine, loved men but never actually or literally chased any man ever
@@MrsMarten3987 Kelli's character did evolve after the 1st couple of seasons and thank goodness for that, but a fat black woman chasing men is the same old tired trope used over and over again. It immediately reminded me of Nikki Parker, Monique's character in the Parkers. It would've been great to see the men chase her.
@@2manystories2tell43 a couple of the men were all over her, so idk. For the most part a few of them were more interested in Kelli than she was in them. I feel like if her storyline was expanded we would've seen her be chased. But I can't name enough shows were this was a trope. So again it's personal perception. In regard to Nikki Parker, the show was stereotypical and comedic so I don't hold it to serious standards. But I will say Nikki was fine as hell and men often chased her as well. The professor wasn't in her league but that's another story. In that case, she was written to be desperate for that one man. But she was far from desperate for the other men in her life. But I get how that can be considered a trope
We need more of this! It was like blending two different worlds😂
Love y’all together. & I love y’all for discussing this topic!!!!
The whole time I’m watching it, I’m screaming, “Amanda, just put the pooch away for now..” lol 🤣🐾💙
Big facts that dog woulda had to be put somewhere
Promoting inclusivity among black women is a really good thing to do. I love this!
I think it is very important to realize black features come in all shades and we can build common experiences and bonds between light-skinned and dark-skinned black women that are very different from what we get from bonding /only being around other races of women. It is not a nice feeling to be in a group and not look in any way similar to the other women. I think the ugly feeling many of us, including me, have felt stemmed from otherness and not seeing race/color just puts a bandaid on a wider problem. We, human animals, all have an intense need to be included and inclusivity can come from different levels of positive interactions with other people. The strongest seem to be same-gender experiences and features and these connections must be made for self-esteem and personal growth. However, there are a whole host of other combinations and reasons to make positive connections with other groups of people that also make huge contributions to personal growth in their own way. So while it would be wrong to ignore the problems of racism and colorism it is perfectly fine to have a blend of positive interactions with people based on different reasons.
Not Harriet Tubman lmaooo great episode!
I’m glad you are having the conversation. Colorism isn’t specific to black women. Asians Latinos and others use colorism to separate
Yes but it is all rooted in the ideology that blackness or proximity thereof, is inherently wrong.
No clue who this lady is, but instantly a fan. Love this episode.
Mona is a future LEGEND! I see her going so far!!! She is funny and amazing
i love this ep because they're sooo different and yet similar, and i think that's the most important take away
Yes! We always need conversations from the “privileged” side of issues too so we can understand all aspects. Great job ladies 🙏🏾
Nuanced conversation is necessary and this was great
This conversation felt well intentioned and it is a conversation that feels like it brought all black women together. On a side note, the drama between the pup and Mona was hilarious.
Time to bring this one back as a topic! Because after Shannon we saw people literally have you f’d up even trying to label you as biracial, just wild!
I’m so happy they paired up again. I wish they both were my friends 🖤🤩✊🏾
This is my 1st time hearing of Mona Dixon but I'm feeling Phiily vibes and I love it.
We here Queen!! Anything for you!
You guys should do a tour. The energy and chemistry is all that💯
Amanda will always be one of my favorites💛
Amanda: My Brother & Me is my favorite show of all time. Still watch it on YT every now and then.❤
Few Things:
1) No offense to you intelligent and beautiful women because I totally understand Amanda’s disclaimer. However, the colorism conversation should include people who have experienced it. I would love to see you all have this discussion with women and men of darker complexions. I never hear black men have this conversation considering they perpetuate it the most and cover up as “preference”. I respect you ladies’ perspectives and I hear you. However, this conversation should go deeper.
2) I think it’s very interesting that Mona brought up getting messages on a dating app more than a darker skinned woman because a lot of people who perpetuate colorism use that as a “flex” or “draw 4 card” because they are “getting picked” and darker skin people are not. Colorism is not all about being chosen by a man, but also lack of fair treatment and inclusivity in other areas/relationships, like the work place and family setting.
3)Mona: I am sorry about your experience/run-in with the law. I wonder if you have ever researched colorism in relation to the law, as well. An example I can think of is “Prison Bae”. Women (and gay men) gushed over because of his look. He was released from prison and received a modeling deal and is also a reality tv star. I have never seen a darker skinned male (or female, for that matter) receive such a response, Grace, or admiration.
This was a good interview. A more balanced discussion of colorism as told by Black mixed and light skinned women.
Nobody in this interview is "mixed". We both have two black parents.
@goldengoddess100Having European ancestry and skin complexion are two different things. Someone darker can have more European in them than her. Just saying 🤷
I didn’t know what to expect but as a lighter skin but def non ambiguous black woman (4c) I respect this conversation
I love all black women but I go up and off for darker skinned women
You’re just like me lol I don’t play about darkskin girls at all
Maybe it’s the filter but you are not light skin based on that picture at all.
I guess it’s a regional thing
People call me “red” as a nick name. I’ve always said I was light brown skin not light skinned 😂😂 and I am a bit lighter than I look in this pic
I go up and off for all colors of the spectrum, because we need to come together ❤
@munax-pd9tu but they don't do the same for yall. They still won't respect u for being a lightskin savior
This was a great convo 💯 All shades of black are beautiful ❤ I wish everyone could understand that and uplift each other instead of nitpicking about skin tone!
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Both of y’all are so real and genuine! I’m glad Mona came on your show! Love you both 😍😍
Yes with the nice skin comments. I have problematic skin and when someone says that I know they have a color complex.👀
it may not be colorism but its still prejudice based on someones skin color, something they cant control. My dad experienced this all through his life just for being lightskin they would call him albino and whiteboy and so many other things he was literally bullied for the color of his skin. Having light skin didnt garner him any special privileges.
Sadly that's why our community continues to hurt each other. Misguided and the tough conversations don't get had. So these prejudices, projecting and colorism is still an issue. And as Amada Seales said it's all a by-product of white supremacy.
that part
He went through all that but it wasn’t colorism and that’s okay if his experience doesn’t meet the criteria to be called colorism. Just because it’s not called colorism doesn’t diminish what happened to him, that’s the crux of the convo.
Exactly. I'm like, why do we have to ignore bigotry because it comes from a darker skinned person. It's all prejudice
I like Amanda! How could you not like her? Love Mona too.
This is a great match! For a girl just as educated as Amanda or maybe what yall would say (sheltered) BUT also a girl who has been to jail, ITS. a great mix. and I love both life experiences and perspectives .❤
I love how Geordi was barking and growling then asked for pets 😂 4:55
Y’all really are a good pair !
We need to see more of mona on other podcast !!
Glad y’all linked back up!!!
I was waiting for this. Great conversation
Whew* this whoooollllleeee conversation 😢 it makes me so sad that we have to talk about this, being our own worse enemy. As a “red bone, 6ft masculine of center, nonbinary individual-There’s still so much to unpack but I’m glad that you’re going after the difficult topics. Props! 💯🫵🏽❤️✊🏽
Two of my favorites in one interview always makes my whole Lightskinned DAY! 🥹😊😍🥰 love y’all
This was nice, the combo I didn’t know we needed. I love you two!
The conversation was great but the dog is adorable! ❣️
My favorite two people this was the collaboration i never knew i needed. Thank you both💕💕😍😍
I had guys fetishized me too they don't want me necessarily just my light skin could literally be anyone as long as light skinned
Here from Dcmwg. Loved this interview ❤
AMANDA- DA BEBE(FRENCH ACCENT) LMFAO 🎉 THIS WAS LOVELY
Amanda was right the shade room does show her in a certain way. I’m glad this was recommended to me cause I love DCMWG but now I was able to see more of Amanda
I love that Mona can go into any space and be herself but also show that deep side of her … I would’ve never expected this pair but I love it! 🫨💕
❤️❤️ BLESSSSS ~ great Conversation🤲🏽 beautiful people ✨ appreciate both of you ur vulnerability and insights.
They definitely act like cousins 😊😊😊😊😊 love y’all chemistry