Hi Everyone, We hope you enjoyed our video! Which small camper perfect for couples did you like best? Do you prefer a travel trailer, motorhome or 5th wheel? Please say hello by leaving a comment below and sharing your opinion about these RV floor plans.
Thanks Susan and Mike, great video. As a retired marketing person and teacher in the way back world I have noticed a slight change in script. Any who, for 24k the first one should have a murphy bed, a 32" TV (these are cheap), the proper cabinet hardware, and ditch the sofa and put in a couple of chairs. Also also, a retractable shower door and a window in the entrance door. For brevity, the second one is a weekender unless you're alone. The Lance is about 30k over priced for what it is. My good friends have a 30-32' Sport trek and paid 35k, it is very nice. Just my opinions, no one needs to agree. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! I completely agree about the price. Lance is a quality RV but that is a high MSRP. What is the change in script you are noticing? We appreciate your support Tuvia!
We love the concept of a Murphy Bed in a small camper! Really improves the living space. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
While it wasn't perfect, the Lance is by far the best. I like the layout, the design, the fit and finish. It lacked storage, but everything else was really nice. I would have preferred more elbow room for the commode, but you can't have everything.
Lance does a great job with quality construction in their RVs. The bathroom is a little tight but it's a small camper and that's part of the sacrifice. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
I love the Lance. I think it’s just tight with either the loungers or the couch. I like that option. My brother -law -always has Lances as campers. He loved them. Used them to go hunting in Michigan. Thank you Mike and Susan.
I love ❤ these! 1st, The no microwave makes the first one a weekend short use trailer. You might want to mention a caveat on that kitchen stove. People don’t think about that countertop, looks like marble, but it is foil wrapped plywood or particleboard. This simply means NOTHING HOT ON TOP ever, and you need to caulk those every 6 months or so. Under-mount sinks are screwed into the plywood, if not sealed they will leak at that seam, and your sink will drop at the worst time, say when you’re washing or soaking dishes. (Thanks for mentioning the lack of the shower shield.) 2nd, might work for 1 or 2, but the size would work nerves like crazy. My wife would have killed me and made me pay with a thousand character assassinations. 3rd, Sweet! Love the windows, back and side splashes, and very functional… but at that price there might be better other options!
We have a Zinger Lite very similar to the first camper. The cabinet has open space beside the bed so we turned the bed sideways and made it full size. It's perfect! Gives plenty of space! We were able to put a table/desk area to the right of the kitchen towards the bed.
I love you and Susan. Awesome reviews. I have to agree the Lance was my favorite but like the other viewers expressed WAY TOO SPENDY. If I had that type of money it would have to go for one of the one piece eggs on the market to avoid leaking as much as possible. The Larger Helio out of Canada.
Thank you so much! We truly appreciate your support! We agree with the MSRP of Lance, which always tend to be a bit higher than other manufacturers. But they do have a great reputation for a quality product. We haven't had the chance to see a Helio in person yet. Looking forward to that.
Lance typically does come with a higher MSRP, but that was a bit much for that camper. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
@@TM-bd7nf We haven't owned or used either but we can stay they appear to be constructed well. (cabinetry and finishes) And I think they have a good reputation. It's like Airstream. Not for everyone.
1 st. Yes. Under end of bed good place for my cat bed. Bathroom works for me. I’d get small toaster oven. 2nd. No way don’t want to make my bed every night. Fridge too far down. Bathroom too small. 3rd. Maybe. Like most of it but don’t know if I could use the shower or not. If I could find a small round shower stool and I can sit to shower then it’s a yes.
Considering a significant downsizing from a 30’ tow trailer with slide out to a small RV. The Lance looks nice but the price is unreasonable. I keep going back to the Nu Camp Tab 400 for a small teardrop style RV. Dreaming at this point as it has a hefty price tag and heavy tongue weight for towing.
Some brands like Lance and nuCamp tend to have higher prices tags because I do believe they are high quality construction. Might be able to find one that is "gently used" for less. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
On the Forest River the bed orientation/layout if the only thing they got right. Yes the could keep the bed configuration but make it a murphy bed, allowing for some day time seating, get ride of the couch and put in its place a two person dinette, and reduce the size of the 2 piece bathroom and increase the kitchen size to include some workable counter space.
We prefer a camper with no microwave. Just a two burner stove is perfect because the size of pans never allow the use of all three on a three burner. Make it small, make it useable with storage. No murphy beds!! The first trailer was perfect! And I think RV manufacturers should make mattresses an option. Most people buy a super supportive and comfortable one from somewhere else after they’ve slept on it on their first trip.
I'm considering buying a travel trailer and it was great to see what it's like inside these smaller ones. I'm 6'6" so thanks for measuring the beds and especially the interior heights. Super helpful.
1. The first bed, please build it so it folds out of the way. Let support slid back. Use as couch. Microwave would be nice. On wall above stove. I'd install a shower surround plus shower door. 2. I like layout including front window. That down facing outlet will fail to hold a cord once it loosens up. Fail faster then wall mounted due to gravity. Another shower needing a better door. Nice price 3. Too expensive period. I like the swivel chairs Corner shower needs larger diameter
Hey Mike and Susan, I love your videos and your walk throughs. You give great ideas on camper improvements. Could you do a tour of a 2024 Forest River Wildwood FSX 161QK. I would love to hear your thoughts. Looks like a great couples camper. Keep up the great work. Thanks Mark
Hello Mike & Susan. I watch a lot of your video's. I am presently retired, just turned 65 in July. My dream is to one day, hopefully soon, buy a nice truck and camper and live in it and travel. I right now live in a 24 foot camper I rent. To comment on your video's. I am finding out that I really like the Lance. There layout seems more fitting . Right now its just me and my cat...🤣🙂👍🏻. Maybe I find a partner so I look at only one to two people. So in saying that, I like a camper geared up for two. No bunk beds. More of a stove top and yes microwave. Anyway thanks I enjoy your video's and I'm sure it will help me find the right one. Keep up the great work. Truly yours......Richard.
Richard, that’s great! We hope our videos help you find the right camper for your next adventure! Thanks for the kind words and for watching our videos! Keep us posted on your search ( for an RV and for a partner!), and if you have any questions, please ask away! Mike
Thanks! The basic wildwood may be able to hold a smaller convection oven in the overhead compartment. Further, you might be able to get a RV toilet/sink in one unit. The unit is a great blank slate just waiting for personal uphrades!❤
Agree. The Wildwood was very basic but could shine with a few personal upgrades. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
That's a great suggestion for the TV. We actually do have a few videos about RVs with twin beds. Great floor plans! th-cam.com/video/V_TsbX1ilcE/w-d-xo.html Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support.
I think Mike meant more as an option versus upgrade. The compressor style does take longer to cool and you must be level. Some people still love them but manufacturers are moving more towards the 12v fridge. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
That's a great cook solution and you can probably use that outside too. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
We love the concept of a Murphy bed for more living space in a small camper. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
For the person who said "for the price of the Lance you can get an Airstream " ! Have you priced out Airstreams lately ?? Lance is a quality build...thats why they are so expensive 😢😮 Another quality build...the Safari Condo 2114 set us back $ 60000 but we can resale it for at least $50000.00 so how expensive is it really ??
That's a steep price for a popup camper! I had no idea they were that expensive? I've only ever seen one at an RV Show and I wasn't impressed. What am I missing? Can you share why you think they are so awesome and what you like about them? I've never seen anyone camping in one of them to ask their opinion either so I'm asking you. Thanks! Mike
Thank you so much for your support! We try to do most of our cooking outside too. Keep the smells and grease out of the RV. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. 💛💚
Prices are coming down and we only show the MSRP which you should never pay. It's a buyers market so you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off of MSRP.
There is truth to that statement. Some people have adjusted to watching TV through phones or tablets. But some do still prefer a larger screen with a traditional television. Better for my old eyes👀🤣.
You are not wrong! That shower was a bit disappointing...for a Lance! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
🤣 Great point! Modern Buggy also manufacturers a floor plan called Little Buggy. So size is more of a comparison to their other products. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
So glad you liked your Murphy bed. We love the concept but never owned one ourselves. Thank you so much for leaving this comment for others too! And thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
@RVBlogger gorilla glue waterproof patch and seal, I know it's "technically" for concrete and grout/tile, but kinda like flex seal it can be used for other applications if used correctly. I lived in mobile homes the last few years, fully redoing and older shower costs a ton. Using this on new backer boards behind a replaced shower insert (2 piece or 1 piece) helps keep costs down on buying expensive multiple layer water proofing measures that are now typically used. Especially in cabins your diy-ing a bathroom in. Which I've also done once at my dads cabin in Uvalde we bought and fixed up to go hunt at. Stuff will seal any porous material water tight. Guessing a bunch of the other types would too.
Great Video, question what is the reasoning of the Lance trailer being Sooooooo expensive? its nice but not $67G nice. I would give it a good $30G if that. I would take the Imagine version of this any day(but also over priced), but thought you might have a good answer.
Thank you for watching and enjoying our RV tour video. All Lance RVs tend to be a higher cost than many other RV manufacturers. They do have a reputation for quality construction and offer features that make their RVs 4 season. It's kinda like Airstream and Winnebago...reputation = cost. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Those are all great upgrade ideas that would make life more comfortable and convenient! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I would like to have an oven over a microwave, because it would be easier to use propane to cook but if I couldn't have an oven, I'd want one of those new convection microwaves so I could do both wheb I had enough electric. I boondock mostly, though, so that would take a lot of solar.
That makes a lot of sense. Being able to cook with propane when boondocking is preferred over electric. We typically just grill outside when we are solar powered. Thank you blessedveteran!
What in the Sam Hill? What are these tiny campers made of? I bet if a person built one themselves it would cost maybe and I mean maybe $20,000 at the most. Could this be the reason why so many trailer or RV sales yards are over full ??
The MSRP of RVs have increased dramatically over the past few years (since Covid). Increased demand and increased supply costs (along with greed) changed the RV market. We are seeing less demand and more supply at this point and hopefully that will result in the lowering of sales cost. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
We are definitely seeing ovens more in smaller campers these days. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Not everyone likes a Murphy Bed so these types of beds will still be around. But I agree that multifunctional space in a small camper is important. Thanks for watching! Mike
We don't get into all of the technical info because the videos would be too long. Plus we figure if people see a unit they like they can look up the details on their own. However we do get quite a few people asking about tank sizes so we are considering adding them to our reviews. Keep the feedback coming because we want to improve our videos any way we can. Thanks! Mike
Oh yeah - RV mattresses are cheap for the most part. We did get a decent mattress in our Class A but we will be buying a new mattress soon! Stay tuned! Mike
#1 MB would be great. One could do a lot with some personalized innovative ideas. #3 Lance makes a superior product and retains the value at resale. I’d get the slide out version. Thanks again for your awesome reviews.
@@bevgunson1486 I agree with you about Lance. They have a great reputation for quality. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I was wondering if you could do a video on warranties. Which coaches are better and why. I have seen warranty paper and feel i need to take it to an attorney. Thank you. Keep the videos coming.
Great suggestion! We love our warranty and we will do a video all about it very soon! We have used it enough times that we feel like we can give a very good representation about how it has worked for us. We like to wait on these things because it takes time to see how things really work. Thanks for the great idea and let us know if you have any other topics you would like us to cover! Mike
The Coleman hasn't been blackballed...by us. We include RVs that we have been able to see at dealerships and RV shows. I'm sure the Lantern 17B is a great floor plan for a couple. Thank you for suggesting it for our viewers. And thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
The Forest River Wildwood had a great spacious bathroom! So glad you liked it! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
That could exist but we have never seen those features in a small camper. We have seen dishwashers in motorhomes and large 5th wheels, but have never seen a wood burning stove. Sounds like it would have to be a DIY project. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Hi Chris, please be aware that we only show the MSRP which has come down recently. We saw the lowest prices we have seen since Covid at the Hershey RV Show last week. It's a buyers market so you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off the MSRP...
Hey Mike. Another informative video. Out of the 3 shown, I would have to go with the FR. I like to have a walk around QB bit would rather have the entry on the rear. The Teardrop is to small and as the Lance trailer is overpriced for that market segment. Have you ever done a review of the Flagstaff Microlite 25 FKSB? It looks like the perfect couples coach. The front kitchen, mid bath and rear QB is a great layout.
Thanks Stan! I think I agree with you about the Mod Buggy and the Lance. The FR MSRP of $25k should result in a sales price under $20k. We actually did tour the Flagstaff 25FKSB and it will be in a future video about campers with front kitchens. We love the front kitchen layout! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Tell us more about your Safari Condo...what features does it have that these don't? How does it compare price wise and how is the quality? Thanks for sharing! Mike
First off, love the videos! The first one, why is the TV placed on the same side as the seating area, and not on the big empty space to the right of the large cabinet on the kitchen side? Seems a bit odd. Thanks again!
Thank you so much! The Forest River Wildwood was the first RV. You are absolutely right. If they had pre-wired TV hookups on that side you could watch from bed or the sofa. Great point! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
@@jellybryce7742 - On my Airstream 23FB the wood was real, just nice wood. The issue was simple, 4 years use, cooking, cleaning, and the wood next to the stove looked like it had been through a war.
Agree! It's a small thing but means a lot and makes the area look so much better, not to mention protecting your RV. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
That's fair, not everyone likes a Murphy bed. Agree about the microwave. It's a must for us too. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
The FR Wildwood is a very basic camper without a lot of frills. Definitely needs a new mattress. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
Hi Grannygoes! Thank you for watching and enjoying our videos❤️. We try to point out when the shower step up is a bit too high but we can try to reference that and shower size a little more moving forward. Might take us a while we have quite a bit of video shot already to be released. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
A dinette is a great option for additional sleeping as well as a place to eat. Maybe manufacturers can work on that idea vs a Murphy bed. Great suggestion. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
We have some pretty small, light campers in our library. Maybe we should create a small camper playlist??? Is that your suggestion? Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Understable. As the MSRP, it's never the sale price but they are still a bit high. It would even be hard to find a new Airstream at $66k these days. I think we'll begin to see prices come down - supply and increased over demand. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Thumbs down on that Forest River. Poor layout, crummy mattress, no cabinet door holder, no counter space , no microwave, “just very basic” (cheapo)! Crazy price for that! No way!
The Forest River Wildwood is a very basic camper. I'd be curious what the actual sales price could be. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
@@RVBlogger Now that you have my first impression, and I’ve had a day to get over sticker shock (are all RVs now exorbitantly priced? ), I realize I omitted saying thanks to you for making the great tour video. I subbed and will be looking for more of your informative vids! Thank you for responding also!
@@jimkingsland1645 You are welcome! We appreciate your support! ❤TBH, the MSRP of RVs experienced a very high increase during Covid. Camping became the safest and easiest way to vacation or "get away". Between increase demand and lack of supplies due to shortages the price hit an all time high. We are beginning to see prices come down and big decreases at RV shows (RV show prices). I think that's due more to supply vs demand now. Not to mention public outcry. And we did notice poor quality of construction and materials as well. Not defending manufacturers but I think they had a hard time keeping up and staffing employees. All that being said I'm sure they saw an incredible opportunity to recover financially and profit heavily. So your sticker shock is very understandable. I think the Wildwood MSRP (pre-Covid) would have been closer $15k not $25k and not seem as unreasonable. We are used to negative feedback with pricing and sympathize with potential buyers. Thanks for your additional comment and subscribing!
A couple of years ago that is what it probably cost. Let's hope the market corrects itself. Supply has increased over demand. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
The mattress on that first van looks very slim, not much support there, and I personally wouldnt like to see that first thing as I enter and yes , its not versatile for seating .the base of that bed could have had doors on the recess at the end . I feel that if the bed was replaced with a murphy bed , then the sofa could be removed altogether and replaced with a dinette area .
Hi Everyone,
We hope you enjoyed our video! Which small camper perfect for couples did you like best? Do you prefer a travel trailer, motorhome or 5th wheel? Please say hello by leaving a comment below and sharing your opinion about these RV floor plans.
Thanks Susan and Mike, great video. As a retired marketing person and teacher in the way back world I have noticed a slight change in script. Any who, for 24k the first one should have a murphy bed, a 32" TV (these are cheap), the proper cabinet hardware, and ditch the sofa and put in a couple of chairs. Also also, a retractable shower door and a window in the entrance door. For brevity, the second one is a weekender unless you're alone. The Lance is about 30k over priced for what it is. My good friends have a 30-32' Sport trek and paid 35k, it is very nice. Just my opinions, no one needs to agree. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! I completely agree about the price. Lance is a quality RV but that is a high MSRP. What is the change in script you are noticing? We appreciate your support Tuvia!
I would always would like a Murphy bed in a small rv!
We love the concept of a Murphy Bed in a small camper! Really improves the living space. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
While it wasn't perfect, the Lance is by far the best. I like the layout, the design, the fit and finish. It lacked storage, but everything else was really nice. I would have preferred more elbow room for the commode, but you can't have everything.
Lance does a great job with quality construction in their RVs. The bathroom is a little tight but it's a small camper and that's part of the sacrifice. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
Agreed, a murphy bed allows more space and extra seating. It also allows you to not have to keep the bed made by being able to hide the bed.
That is a great point 🤣. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
Love the little Lance, and the chairs,
Hi Mildred!
The little chairs are pretty cool!
Hope you are doing well and staying warm this winter!
Mike and Susan
I love the Lance. I think it’s just tight with either the loungers or the couch. I like that option. My brother -law -always has Lances as campers. He loved them. Used them to go hunting in Michigan. Thank you Mike and Susan.
Hi Sherri!
The Lance campers are very nice and they are good quality campers.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
I love ❤ these! 1st, The no microwave makes the first one a weekend short use trailer. You might want to mention a caveat on that kitchen stove. People don’t think about that countertop, looks like marble, but it is foil wrapped plywood or particleboard. This simply means NOTHING HOT ON TOP ever, and you need to caulk those every 6 months or so. Under-mount sinks are screwed into the plywood, if not sealed they will leak at that seam, and your sink will drop at the worst time, say when you’re washing or soaking dishes. (Thanks for mentioning the lack of the shower shield.)
2nd, might work for 1 or 2, but the size would work nerves like crazy. My wife would have killed me and made me pay with a thousand character assassinations.
3rd, Sweet! Love the windows, back and side splashes, and very functional… but at that price there might be better other options!
Hi Erin,
Thanks so much for your comments! You are always spot on!
We should do an RV tour together sometime!
As always - thanks for watching!
Mike
Best narrator I ever saw for rvs.
Thanks very much! You just made my day!
Mike
We have a Zinger Lite very similar to the first camper. The cabinet has open space beside the bed so we turned the bed sideways and made it full size. It's perfect! Gives plenty of space! We were able to put a table/desk area to the right of the kitchen towards the bed.
Very cool! That sounds awesome!
I like these campers. I think the third one was my favorite.
Hi Kim,
Thanks! The third camper seems to be in the lead!\
Thanks for watching!
Mike
Keep the small trailer reviews coming!!
Thank you! We sure will. We appreciate your support!
I love you and Susan. Awesome reviews. I have to agree the Lance was my favorite but like the other viewers expressed WAY TOO SPENDY. If I had that type of money it would have to go for one of the one piece eggs on the market to avoid leaking as much as possible. The Larger Helio out of Canada.
Thank you so much! We truly appreciate your support! We agree with the MSRP of Lance, which always tend to be a bit higher than other manufacturers. But they do have a great reputation for a quality product. We haven't had the chance to see a Helio in person yet. Looking forward to that.
$66,912 for a Lance trailer what has the world come to.
Lance typically does come with a higher MSRP, but that was a bit much for that camper. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Lance has always been pricy. I have never owned or used one so I can’t say if their quality reflects their high price or. It.
@@TM-bd7nf We haven't owned or used either but we can stay they appear to be constructed well. (cabinetry and finishes) And I think they have a good reputation. It's like Airstream. Not for everyone.
Very nice however, that price is way too much. I would rather pay for a nucamp 320 tab or the nucamp 400 tab.
I was thinking the same thing. Nucamp has much better construction.
1 st. Yes. Under end of bed good place for my cat bed. Bathroom works for me. I’d get small toaster oven.
2nd. No way don’t want to make my bed every night. Fridge too far down. Bathroom too small.
3rd. Maybe. Like most of it but don’t know if I could use the shower or not. If I could find a small round shower stool and I can sit to shower then it’s a yes.
Those are all great points and reviews of each RV. Thank you! And thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
A tent with a cot would be an upgrade to the Forest River.
Ouch! 😂 It was a very basic camper for sure. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Considering a significant downsizing from a 30’ tow trailer with slide out to a small RV. The Lance looks nice but the price is unreasonable. I keep going back to the Nu Camp Tab 400 for a small teardrop style RV. Dreaming at this point as it has a hefty price tag and heavy tongue weight for towing.
Some brands like Lance and nuCamp tend to have higher prices tags because I do believe they are high quality construction. Might be able to find one that is "gently used" for less. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
On the Forest River the bed orientation/layout if the only thing they got right.
Yes the could keep the bed configuration but make it a murphy bed, allowing for some day time seating,
get ride of the couch and put in its place a two person dinette,
and reduce the size of the 2 piece bathroom and increase the kitchen size to include some workable counter space.
Hi Paul,
Great suggestions!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
We prefer a camper with no microwave. Just a two burner stove is perfect because the size of pans never allow the use of all three on a three burner. Make it small, make it useable with storage. No murphy beds!! The first trailer was perfect! And I think RV manufacturers should make mattresses an option. Most people buy a super supportive and comfortable one from somewhere else after they’ve slept on it on their first trip.
Very true about that matterss! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
I'm considering buying a travel trailer and it was great to see what it's like inside these smaller ones. I'm 6'6" so thanks for measuring the beds and especially the interior heights. Super helpful.
Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching!
Mike
Get the Moddern Buggy, take the wheels off and use it as a slide in truck camper. It’s about the same size 😂😂
🤣 It is pretty small.
1. The first bed, please build it so it folds out of the way. Let support slid back. Use as couch. Microwave would be nice. On wall above stove. I'd install a shower surround plus shower door.
2. I like layout including front window.
That down facing outlet will fail to hold a cord once it loosens up. Fail faster then wall mounted due to gravity. Another shower needing a better door. Nice price
3. Too expensive period.
I like the swivel chairs
Corner shower needs larger diameter
Great analysis on all three rigs!!!
Thanks for commenting!
Mike
I like the Coleman Lantern lt 17R. Looks similar to this but I love the fireplace and dinette in the Coleman kitchen.
Maybe we will tour the 17R one day! Thanks for telling us about yours!
Mike
Hey Mike and Susan, I love your videos and your walk throughs. You give great ideas on camper improvements. Could you do a tour of a 2024 Forest River Wildwood FSX 161QK. I would love to hear your thoughts. Looks like a great couples camper. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Mark
That's an awesome floor plan!! Just added it to my wish list. Thanks for the suggestion, hope we can find it soon! Thank you for your support!
Lance the best by far❤
Not as good as they used to be but still a good camper.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
Babe wake up RVBlogger just posted!!!
🤣 That's awesome. Love your support! Thank you❤️
Hello Mike & Susan. I watch a lot of your video's. I am presently retired, just turned 65 in July. My dream is to one day, hopefully soon, buy a nice truck and camper and live in it and travel. I right now live in a 24 foot camper I rent.
To comment on your video's. I am finding out that I really like the Lance. There layout seems more fitting .
Right now its just me and my cat...🤣🙂👍🏻. Maybe I find a partner so I look at only one to two people.
So in saying that, I like a camper geared up for two. No bunk beds.
More of a stove top and yes microwave.
Anyway thanks I enjoy your video's and I'm sure it will help me find the right one. Keep up the great work.
Truly yours......Richard.
Richard, that’s great! We hope our videos help you find the right camper for your next adventure! Thanks for the kind words and for watching our videos! Keep us posted on your search ( for an RV and for a partner!), and if you have any questions, please ask away!
Mike
Thanks! The basic wildwood may be able to hold a smaller convection oven in the overhead compartment. Further, you might be able to get a RV toilet/sink in one unit. The unit is a great blank slate just waiting for personal uphrades!❤
Agree. The Wildwood was very basic but could shine with a few personal upgrades. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Definitely the Lance. I would redo the shower though, but other than that, it would be awesome!!!
The Lance has a great floor plan but that shower is a bit small. Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
Forest river. Put the tv on the opposite wall. Offer a twin bed option. Lance price is nuts. Twins apply here as well
That's a great suggestion for the TV. We actually do have a few videos about RVs with twin beds. Great floor plans! th-cam.com/video/V_TsbX1ilcE/w-d-xo.html Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support.
Ideal for me would be a walled off bedroom. If I didn't get that then it would be nice to be able to convert the bed to a seating area.
Yep - that would be a nice feature. great suggestion!
Im a fan of walled bedroom. Never liked the idea of sink or stove beside bed. At least partly walled for some seperation of space i preferr.
@@BrianSmith-ql5nj Makes good sense to me
That area under the bed is for my dog's bed! Perfect...
That is perfect! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Fixed bed is what I like - I don't like Murphy Bed setup. I am disabled so I like easy stuff.
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing your comment!
Mike
Great video. When did the compressor fridge become an “upgrade”? Is that the same type that takes 12 hours to get cold and must be level to work?
I think Mike meant more as an option versus upgrade. The compressor style does take longer to cool and you must be level. Some people still love them but manufacturers are moving more towards the 12v fridge. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
@@RVBlogger you’re welcome! I’ve learned that from watching you guys so much.
I use a toaster oven/air fryer for any kind of cooking I can’t do on the burners.
That's a great cook solution and you can probably use that outside too. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I think a Murphy bed would be way better for this
We love the concept of a Murphy bed for more living space in a small camper. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I like Murphy beds. I use microwave. Oven not so much.
Thanks for sharing!
Mike
For the person who said "for the price of the Lance you can get an Airstream " ! Have you priced out Airstreams lately ?? Lance is a quality build...thats why they are so expensive 😢😮 Another quality build...the Safari Condo 2114 set us back $ 60000 but we can resale it for at least $50000.00 so how expensive is it really ??
That's a steep price for a popup camper! I had no idea they were that expensive? I've only ever seen one at an RV Show and I wasn't impressed. What am I missing? Can you share why you think they are so awesome and what you like about them? I've never seen anyone camping in one of them to ask their opinion either so I'm asking you. Thanks!
Mike
I take a camp chef to cook on outside. I love your videos. Thanks
Thank you so much for your support! We try to do most of our cooking outside too. Keep the smells and grease out of the RV. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. 💛💚
Fixed permanent bed i preferr. I also preferr a dinette with poles convertible to short bed with storage access from under cushion.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
That 67k MSRP on the Lance is insane.
Prices are coming down and we only show the MSRP which you should never pay. It's a buyers market so you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off of MSRP.
Im a big fan of the 1475. Do you know if the swivel chairs recline?
I'm a big fan of the 1475 too and I don't believe they recline.
Heres a hint,,, most people now do not want tvs anymore,,, we have a Tablet and or Laptops,,,
There is truth to that statement. Some people have adjusted to watching TV through phones or tablets. But some do still prefer a larger screen with a traditional television. Better for my old eyes👀🤣.
Nope. Give me a TV over a phone or I pad any day. My eyes appreciate it.
That Lance trailer is amazing. However, that shower curtain and bathroom sink can go! Lol
You are not wrong! That shower was a bit disappointing...for a Lance! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Wow that so called Big Buggy. I guess if your 4 feet tall you can look out the kitchen window?? Nice
🤣 Great point! Modern Buggy also manufacturers a floor plan called Little Buggy. So size is more of a comparison to their other products. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
We’ve had Murphy bed and really liked it…this would be a no brainer.
So glad you liked your Murphy bed. We love the concept but never owned one ourselves. Thank you so much for leaving this comment for others too! And thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
The Lance for sure.
Lance does a great job. We always love the quality construction put into making their RVs! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
For those shower walls you could also apply a "water seal barrier" product over them. Keep em dry and clean longer.
Hi Daniel, what product would you recommend and have you used it before? You got me curious!
Thanks for the comment.
Mike
@RVBlogger gorilla glue waterproof patch and seal, I know it's "technically" for concrete and grout/tile, but kinda like flex seal it can be used for other applications if used correctly.
I lived in mobile homes the last few years, fully redoing and older shower costs a ton. Using this on new backer boards behind a replaced shower insert (2 piece or 1 piece) helps keep costs down on buying expensive multiple layer water proofing measures that are now typically used. Especially in cabins your diy-ing a bathroom in. Which I've also done once at my dads cabin in Uvalde we bought and fixed up to go hunt at.
Stuff will seal any porous material water tight. Guessing a bunch of the other types would too.
Great Video, question what is the reasoning of the Lance trailer being Sooooooo expensive? its nice but not $67G nice. I would give it a good $30G if that. I would take the Imagine version of this any day(but also over priced), but thought you might have a good answer.
Thank you for watching and enjoying our RV tour video. All Lance RVs tend to be a higher cost than many other RV manufacturers. They do have a reputation for quality construction and offer features that make their RVs 4 season. It's kinda like Airstream and Winnebago...reputation = cost. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I love having the bed already set-up, I love the separate shower/toilet. I would had a microwave, upgrade the mattress & add a shower door.
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Those are all great upgrade ideas that would make life more comfortable and convenient! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
And the cu camp 400 boondocks with color panels does it got heat insulatesion
The nuCamp TAB 400 lineup comes with heat and air conditioning.
# 3 with the couch
That's a good one!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
I would like to have an oven over a microwave, because it would be easier to use propane to cook but if I couldn't have an oven, I'd want one of those new convection microwaves so I could do both wheb I had enough electric. I boondock mostly, though, so that would take a lot of solar.
That makes a lot of sense. Being able to cook with propane when boondocking is preferred over electric. We typically just grill outside when we are solar powered. Thank you blessedveteran!
What in the Sam Hill? What are these tiny campers made of? I bet if a person built one themselves it would cost maybe and I mean maybe $20,000 at the most. Could this be the reason why so many trailer or RV sales yards are over full ??
The MSRP of RVs have increased dramatically over the past few years (since Covid). Increased demand and increased supply costs (along with greed) changed the RV market. We are seeing less demand and more supply at this point and hopefully that will result in the lowering of sales cost. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
It's great to see a trailer with an oven. I hope this is a trend.
We are definitely seeing ovens more in smaller campers these days. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
WONDERFUL! I won't buy a new one without an oven. :)
@@KimberlySeep it's important to know your must have before shopping. Great that you are doing your research!
The days of permanent bed taking up 1/4 of the trailer are done. Who wants dinner guests in their headroom? Murphy beds are better options.
Not everyone likes a Murphy Bed so these types of beds will still be around. But I agree that multifunctional space in a small camper is important.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
I wish you posted or briefly talked about the tanks size and battery options for boondock camping applicability for all trailers
We don't get into all of the technical info because the videos would be too long. Plus we figure if people see a unit they like they can look up the details on their own. However we do get quite a few people asking about tank sizes so we are considering adding them to our reviews.
Keep the feedback coming because we want to improve our videos any way we can.
Thanks!
Mike
We like fixed beds. Cheap mattress are normal. Ours only lasted 3 months.
Oh yeah - RV mattresses are cheap for the most part.
We did get a decent mattress in our Class A but we will be buying a new mattress soon! Stay tuned!
Mike
I love the ikeaesque wildwood fsx but would prefer a murphy bed
Yes! They should've designed that as a Murphy bed for sure! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
#1 MB would be great. One could do a lot with some personalized innovative ideas.
#3 Lance makes a superior product and retains the value at resale. I’d get the slide out version. Thanks again for your awesome reviews.
@@bevgunson1486 I agree with you about Lance. They have a great reputation for quality. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I was wondering if you could do a video on warranties. Which coaches are better and why. I have seen warranty paper and feel i need to take it to an attorney.
Thank you. Keep the videos coming.
Great suggestion!
We love our warranty and we will do a video all about it very soon! We have used it enough times that we feel like we can give a very good representation about how it has worked for us. We like to wait on these things because it takes time to see how things really work.
Thanks for the great idea and let us know if you have any other topics you would like us to cover!
Mike
@@RVBlogger thank you
Thanks for the video. I expect that Coleman has been black balled. The lantern 17b out competes your selections and is at least $10,000 cheaper.
The Coleman hasn't been blackballed...by us. We include RVs that we have been able to see at dealerships and RV shows. I'm sure the Lantern 17B is a great floor plan for a couple. Thank you for suggesting it for our viewers. And thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
The bathroom on the first RV is perfect!Very roomy and the bathroom and shower far enough apart.
The Forest River Wildwood had a great spacious bathroom! So glad you liked it! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I would like a travel trailer with a wood burning stove, and a dishwasher, guess i have to build my own
That could exist but we have never seen those features in a small camper. We have seen dishwashers in motorhomes and large 5th wheels, but have never seen a wood burning stove. Sounds like it would have to be a DIY project. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Like the first one better layout.
That's a good layout.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
Lance is very proud of their tiny trailer. I see maybe $4-5k in added value from the first trailer, not $40k.
Hi Chris, please be aware that we only show the MSRP which has come down recently. We saw the lowest prices we have seen since Covid at the Hershey RV Show last week. It's a buyers market so you can expect to negotiate 35 to 40% off the MSRP...
Hey Mike. Another informative video. Out of the 3 shown, I would have to go with the FR. I like to have a walk around QB bit would rather have the entry on the rear. The Teardrop is to small and as the Lance trailer is overpriced for that market segment. Have you ever done a review of the Flagstaff Microlite 25 FKSB? It looks like the perfect couples coach. The front kitchen, mid bath and rear QB is a great layout.
Thanks Stan! I think I agree with you about the Mod Buggy and the Lance. The FR MSRP of $25k should result in a sales price under $20k. We actually did tour the Flagstaff 25FKSB and it will be in a future video about campers with front kitchens. We love the front kitchen layout! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
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Thanks Ashley!
Much appreciated!
Mike
My wife and I purchased a Safari Condo Alto F2114 ...beats all three of these hands down 😂😂😂
Tell us more about your Safari Condo...what features does it have that these don't? How does it compare price wise and how is the quality?
Thanks for sharing!
Mike
I try to be positive and open minded. But I just didn’t care for any of these campers. But, as always, loved the video and the news letter.
Thank you so much! We appreciate your support! These RVs are a bit small and tend to lack some comfort features, storage and space.
I like the first one the best and the price is very good as well
That's a really good point!
That's a good one!
First off, love the videos! The first one, why is the TV placed on the same side as the seating area, and not on the big empty space to the right of the large cabinet on the kitchen side? Seems a bit odd. Thanks again!
Thank you so much! The Forest River Wildwood was the first RV. You are absolutely right. If they had pre-wired TV hookups on that side you could watch from bed or the sofa. Great point! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
i always associate a fully covered backsplash as quality.
My pet peeve has become the lack of side splashes next to stoves when they are exposing wood to cooking splatters. 😮
@@Erin-Thorprobably a pressboard/fake wood adhesive issue is my guess.
@@jellybryce7742 - On my Airstream 23FB the wood was real, just nice wood. The issue was simple, 4 years use, cooking, cleaning, and the wood next to the stove looked like it had been through a war.
Agree! It's a small thing but means a lot and makes the area look so much better, not to mention protecting your RV. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
9:46 does a front kitchen add more weight on the tongue?
YES it does! No doubt about it. Great question!
Mike
No Murphy beds for me.,,, yes we want microwave s ,,, good for melting something, heating up cold food, hot chocolate and popcorn….
That's fair, not everyone likes a Murphy bed. Agree about the microwave. It's a must for us too. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
That price got my attention. 23,000.00, is very doable.
And don't forget these prices are negotiable. We've seen great deals at RV shows.
How much is the big buggy cucamp
We have the MSRP of each RV located on the full screen graphic at the beginning of each tour but I believe the MSRP averages $28.5k.
I like the third, but $66.000, crazy 😮
Buy used and save a bundle is our motto!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
Damn, that Forest River looks rough.
The FR Wildwood is a very basic camper without a lot of frills. Definitely needs a new mattress. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
I’m otherabled, and would appreciate shower dimensions and step up height into the shower. Really enjoying your reviews.
Hi Grannygoes! Thank you for watching and enjoying our videos❤️. We try to point out when the shower step up is a bit too high but we can try to reference that and shower size a little more moving forward. Might take us a while we have quite a bit of video shot already to be released. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
The first one.... rather have a Dinette up front with lots of windows that folds down into at least a Double
A dinette is a great option for additional sleeping as well as a place to eat. Maybe manufacturers can work on that idea vs a Murphy bed. Great suggestion. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Hey Globe Trotters,
How about a smaller (lighter) trailer selection.
We have some pretty small, light campers in our library. Maybe we should create a small camper playlist??? Is that your suggestion? Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Is it alot cheeper
You think these are a bit cheaper?
The Forest River is so basic its ridiculous. No way its worth the asking price.
I like the Lance model, but at $66k, i get an Airstream.
Understable. As the MSRP, it's never the sale price but they are still a bit high. It would even be hard to find a new Airstream at $66k these days. I think we'll begin to see prices come down - supply and increased over demand. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
a murphy bed is so helpful to maximize social space.
Agree! Great invention brought to campers. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
Or a curtain would work
A curtain is always an option. Thank you!
I like the last one just because of my height. I am 6’2” . The downside fir that one is the price.
The Lance. Yes, the MSRP on the Lance is a bit high. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Lastly, I would add a TV & a portable table!
We use our portable table trays all the time! Great suggestion!
I will not be paying that kind d ofoney for a travel trailer. I will be seeking out a used camper for a much better price! Thank you!
That is what we recommend all the time! Buy used and save a ton of money!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
The làncè very nicè
Lance is a very well built quality RV manufacturer! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I vote murphy bed. The door is right there, dusty sheets blankets, no way.
We like the Murphy Bed too!
For the price of the Lance, you could get an Airstream.
It's pretty close. But Lance builds a great product too!
The Lance 1475 has an overall length of 19' 8" overall.
Yup you are correct! Our mistake.
Thanks for the heads up!
Mike
The Lance is very nice, but that price is ridiculous.
Prices are coming down but in our opinion you can buy used and save a bundle.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
When we are camping , we use a microwave or cook over a fire
I miss a meal cooked over a campfire 😋. We try to cook outside as much as possible. Thanks Kim!!!
@@RVBlogger you’re welcome
Thumbs down on that Forest River. Poor layout, crummy mattress, no cabinet door holder, no counter space , no microwave, “just very basic” (cheapo)! Crazy price for that! No way!
The Forest River Wildwood is a very basic camper. I'd be curious what the actual sales price could be. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
@@RVBlogger Now that you have my first impression, and I’ve had a day to get over sticker shock (are all RVs now exorbitantly priced? ), I realize I omitted saying thanks to you for making the great tour video. I subbed and will be looking for more of your informative vids! Thank you for responding also!
@@jimkingsland1645 You are welcome! We appreciate your support! ❤TBH, the MSRP of RVs experienced a very high increase during Covid. Camping became the safest and easiest way to vacation or "get away". Between increase demand and lack of supplies due to shortages the price hit an all time high. We are beginning to see prices come down and big decreases at RV shows (RV show prices). I think that's due more to supply vs demand now. Not to mention public outcry. And we did notice poor quality of construction and materials as well. Not defending manufacturers but I think they had a hard time keeping up and staffing employees. All that being said I'm sure they saw an incredible opportunity to recover financially and profit heavily. So your sticker shock is very understandable. I think the Wildwood MSRP (pre-Covid) would have been closer $15k not $25k and not seem as unreasonable. We are used to negative feedback with pricing and sympathize with potential buyers. Thanks for your additional comment and subscribing!
I prefer a bed .
Versus a Murphy bed? That's understandable. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
It doesn't have enough basic things for that price maybe 20,000 at the most
A couple of years ago that is what it probably cost. Let's hope the market corrects itself. Supply has increased over demand. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
The mattress on that first van looks very slim, not much support there, and I personally wouldnt like to see that first thing as I enter and yes , its not versatile for seating .the base of that bed could have had doors on the recess at the end . I feel that if the bed was replaced with a murphy bed , then the sofa could be removed altogether and replaced with a dinette area .
Sounds like some great ideas to re-arrange the floor plan!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
It is not worth $66,000.00Dollars.
Lance MSRP is a bit high. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Woods floors that rot out, im sure
Are you really sure? Which unit are you talking about?