That is one man option about the look of Trumans Boots the wired thing Trickers offer Horween Java Waxed Flesh the same is Truman boots and does vamp breaks are different The salesperson needs to be schooled on PNW boots
Other than myself, you have the best taste in boots, my man... Ha! I think all too often we get caught up in other peoples opinions and preferences. I say if you like them, wear 'em. They look great. Only you can decide, even if a "pro" says you are wrong. I have a buddy who loves his PNW boots to fit like a firm glove. I do not...I prefer room in them. I think the pinch method may be a good guideline. In the end, only you can decide. Keep the videos coming. Cheers, mate !
Very correct! I have the same and they make them not lying or small, but short in height (the amount of leather). I think Truman has corrected that now
I’m interested in what he had to say- yes it’s very possible that the tough horween tannage breaks differently, but the possibility that a boot would break in that direction if it’s too long is intriguing to me.
I know taste is subjective, but if this dude thinks Truman Java Waxed Flesh is ugly I wouldnt care for any of his other opinions on style. Only thing I would have done different is not back pedaled one bit, those are absolutely dress shoes. I have a pair of Truman Double shot and when Ive worn them out ive actually had random people compliment my boots, which lets be honest Id be lying if I said I didnt enjoy that.
I used their sizing tool (11.5 D on the Brannock) and was told to go with the 11 D...these are the brown double shot cap toe. They're beautiful boots but just a tad on the snug side and they take a bit of effort to put on. Was thinking for my next pair to try something in their wide (EE) width, but if you look on a Brannock device (just checked yesterday at a uniform store) the difference between D and EE is substantial. I was 'professional' measured as well and just told I was a "wide width" at another shoe store. Big takeaway is that some folks like a loose/tight fit and criteria like lasts and manufacturer play a part. I'm happy with mine!
I saw your post on the FB group, and then completely randomly stumbled upon the video here. Can you take a photo of the inside of the boot? Flash on, point the camera toward the toes. You’ve got me quite interested.
Based off many of the footbed pics I’ve seen online in PNW space? Dudes size their boots too long. It shows their toes like 1.5” back from front of boot. That’s ridiculous. It seems instead of buying a boot with a Last shaped for their toes, they just order boots 1-2 sizes too long to ensure no toe smash. The PNW Lasts in general are poorly shaped, with very narrow toe boxes. So I do see how they could end up doing this. Faulty Lasts.
Same here, i had to recently sell my pair of Truman boots due to size being too small. I was recommended by Truman to go the same size as my two pairs of Iron Rangers, but once they arrived (after more than two months of waiting) i was heartbroken to find out that since the front of the boot (where the toes are) is much more narrow than the Iron Rangers i cannot wear them comfortably at all. My feet were hurting because my toes were too squished. I'm guessing i would have to order a full size up from what i have in Red Wing. Shame. I ended up getting a beatiful pair of Blacksmiths in Copper Rough and Tough that i love.
Quite true. Brannock - I did ask him to measure me but he wouldn't! I've done photos on a ruler for Bordon who say 12.5EE or 13EE. Kevin at Caswell did the same and said that I needed a 13EE with tweaking (whatever that means). My foot length is 29.5cm.
@@piotrwydmuch9413 Using their form and getting feedback I was recommended to half size down to 11 and keep the D width. They're a touch snug on me but if I decided on another pair I'm wondering if going to the EE width would be a problem.
I was in the London Tricker's shop on Jermyn Street this past summer. I bought a pair of Bourton shoes and probably spoke with the same salesman. He knows his stuff. I tried on a pair of shoes, and he looked at them and said they look too big, try on a half size smaller. I did and they were instantly more comfortable. So yeah, he knows what he's talking about. Have you happened to try on a pair of 12 1/2 EE Truman boots instead of the 13EE? I wear a EE size also, so the Bourton's are a G fitting, and after wearing them 4 or 5 times, they are super comfortable. Perhaps you should reconsider your Truman boot size.
Was he aware of what a PNW boot break in is like lol. You can’t pinch the leather because it’s 20% thinking than the leather on trickers wing tips lol.
Good point. I told him it was Horween and as Tricker's do a few models from this tannery the penny dropped. I'll say now, he was a good man, knowledgeable but blinkered to old fashioned English style which isn't a bad thing.
Salesperson doesn’t know anything about waxed flesh, Tricker’s boots that are “heavy duty” are made for guys on a pheasant hunt with water dogs driving brand new LandRovers.
I’m interested in what he had to say- yes it’s very possible that the tough horween tannage breaks differently, but the possibility that a boot would break in that direction if it’s too long is intriguing to me.
Secure heel , no blister, comfortable instep , ability to splay toes, no toe rub , no numbness , quarters not touching = good fitting boots.
That is one man option about the look of Trumans Boots the wired thing Trickers offer Horween Java Waxed Flesh the same is Truman boots and does vamp breaks are different The salesperson needs to be schooled on PNW boots
Other than myself, you have the best taste in boots, my man... Ha! I think all too often we get caught up in other peoples opinions and preferences. I say if you like them, wear 'em. They look great. Only you can decide, even if a "pro" says you are wrong. I have a buddy who loves his PNW boots to fit like a firm glove. I do not...I prefer room in them. I think the pinch method may be a good guideline. In the end, only you can decide. Keep the videos coming. Cheers, mate !
Very correct! I have the same and they make them not lying or small, but short in height (the amount of leather). I think Truman has corrected that now
If some strange man says my boots are ugly that’d be a fight on sight. Lmfao.
😂
I’m interested in what he had to say- yes it’s very possible that the tough horween tannage breaks differently, but the possibility that a boot would break in that direction if it’s too long is intriguing to me.
I've worn the boots quite a lot now. I'd say they are at most a half size too long. I think the volume is more of an issue but not a problem.
You've covered a few issues there but as you say, it's the person wearing the boots who decides if they are right.
I know taste is subjective, but if this dude thinks Truman Java Waxed Flesh is ugly I wouldnt care for any of his other opinions on style. Only thing I would have done different is not back pedaled one bit, those are absolutely dress shoes. I have a pair of Truman Double shot and when Ive worn them out ive actually had random people compliment my boots, which lets be honest Id be lying if I said I didnt enjoy that.
I used their sizing tool (11.5 D on the Brannock) and was told to go with the 11 D...these are the brown double shot cap toe. They're beautiful boots but just a tad on the snug side and they take a bit of effort to put on. Was thinking for my next pair to try something in their wide (EE) width, but if you look on a Brannock device (just checked yesterday at a uniform store) the difference between D and EE is substantial. I was 'professional' measured as well and just told I was a "wide width" at another shoe store.
Big takeaway is that some folks like a loose/tight fit and criteria like lasts and manufacturer play a part. I'm happy with mine!
I saw your post on the FB group, and then completely randomly stumbled upon the video here. Can you take a photo of the inside of the boot? Flash on, point the camera toward the toes. You’ve got me quite interested.
Based off many of the footbed pics I’ve seen online in PNW space? Dudes size their boots too long. It shows their toes like 1.5” back from front of boot. That’s ridiculous. It seems instead of buying a boot with a Last shaped for their toes, they just order boots 1-2 sizes too long to ensure no toe smash. The PNW Lasts in general are poorly shaped, with very narrow toe boxes. So I do see how they could end up doing this. Faulty Lasts.
I've had to go true to size on trumans and even then the toebox feels crammed a bit for me.
better a little too long than too short.. I already had to sell a pair of Truman that was too short.. What is your Brannock size?
Same here, i had to recently sell my pair of Truman boots due to size being too small. I was recommended by Truman to go the same size as my two pairs of Iron Rangers, but once they arrived (after more than two months of waiting) i was heartbroken to find out that since the front of the boot (where the toes are) is much more narrow than the Iron Rangers i cannot wear them comfortably at all. My feet were hurting because my toes were too squished. I'm guessing i would have to order a full size up from what i have in Red Wing. Shame. I ended up getting a beatiful pair of Blacksmiths in Copper Rough and Tough that i love.
Quite true. Brannock - I did ask him to measure me but he wouldn't! I've done photos on a ruler for Bordon who say 12.5EE or 13EE. Kevin at Caswell did the same and said that I needed a 13EE with tweaking (whatever that means). My foot length is 29.5cm.
@@piotrwydmuch9413 Using their form and getting feedback I was recommended to half size down to 11 and keep the D width. They're a touch snug on me but if I decided on another pair I'm wondering if going to the EE width would be a problem.
@@piotrwydmuch9413I would do a 1/2 size.
@@cjanquartEE adds roughly 1/2" in circumference, 1/2 size up will add roughly 1/8 inch per side and toe box
I was in the London Tricker's shop on Jermyn Street this past summer. I bought a pair of Bourton shoes and probably spoke with the same salesman. He knows his stuff. I tried on a pair of shoes, and he looked at them and said they look too big, try on a half size smaller. I did and they were instantly more comfortable. So yeah, he knows what he's talking about.
Have you happened to try on a pair of 12 1/2 EE Truman boots instead of the 13EE? I wear a EE size also, so the Bourton's are a G fitting, and after wearing them 4 or 5 times, they are super comfortable.
Perhaps you should reconsider your Truman boot size.
What a weird dude with a weird opinion. They're the right size.
Was he aware of what a PNW boot break in is like lol. You can’t pinch the leather because it’s 20% thinking than the leather on trickers wing tips lol.
Good point. I told him it was Horween and as Tricker's do a few models from this tannery the penny dropped. I'll say now, he was a good man, knowledgeable but blinkered to old fashioned English style which isn't a bad thing.
Salesperson doesn’t know anything about waxed flesh, Tricker’s boots that are “heavy duty” are made for guys on a pheasant hunt with water dogs driving brand new LandRovers.
Lol
Fella clearly had no idea what he was talking about. Undoes your laces and that's it. Not an expert by any means
I’m interested in what he had to say- yes it’s very possible that the tough horween tannage breaks differently, but the possibility that a boot would break in that direction if it’s too long is intriguing to me.