hey johnny i just want to let you know that your videos helped me find fish every time I've been going out since i discovered your channel. just this last weekend i went out with my girlfriend and she caught 15 walleyes on her own! she even out fished me all because i found a good spot from watching your videos. thanks for all the hard work and amazing content you produce, it truly is top class stuff here and i wish you much much success
This is precisely why I love using the fish reveal on my HDS Pro, getting those sonar arches overlayed into my downscan is awesome. I don't need to sacrifice screen space for 2D and can run just chart/down/sidescan and see absolutely everything.
Fish finders are fun entertainment and sometimes effective toys when fishing, but you can't live and die by them. Many times, my wife and I catch the majority of the fish where there are the fewest showing on the finder. It comes in handy in finding the thermocline depth in the spring when trolling for trout ,but for kokanee and deep lake trout I can say that catching them has little or nothing to do with what we see on the finder. It is the running joke in our boat when we are catching or not catching. Good video.
I am blown away how “inaccurate” traditional Sonar is when simultaneously using Garmin LiveScope! Sonar, not Down Imaging, has so many False fish. Found this true in fresh water and saltwater. Very disappointing as we have been chasing Fish that are not really there. Love every Video you produce Johnny. Thank You.
We are just waiting on packaging and then we will launch them on both coretackle.com and Tackle Warehouse. Very excited for the announcement. We have been developing it for over a year.
Johnny thank you I’ll work on it up north there’s really only change in depth and seaweed Lily pads my 2D sonar helix seven marks the fish like a cartoon with size (2021) not colored streaks And you can set the size of fish small medium large
Question, the water I fish is fairly clear, can see a bait 3-4 feet deep. I know theirs variables here but generally speaking, how shallow can I idle over a spot and not spook the fish.
Johnny, do you feel as if not every lake contains offshore/schooled bass? I graphed/idled a lake the other day here (Nebraska) that you would think contains good opportunity for offshore groups/schools as there is a lot of off shore structure in this specific lake, but every time I take the time to idle around, for even up to 2 hours at times, I can never seem to find them offshore on ledges/drop offs/offshore points, or even the on the hard structure I’ve found. Thus, I succumb and find myself doing the same old bank beating which always produces here. I find this issue often with a lot of lakes here. Muddy/stained, with not much specific contour. Maybe it’s the lakes I go to? Could it be because majority of our lakes are dug out as “mud bowls”? Nebraska also at the moment is I believe the second driest state with a lot of our lakes down 4-5 feet in some cases. Any insight is much appreciated. I have tried to apply your graphing/offshore knowledge and insight over the past couple years, and it has worked here and there, but not consistently. Do Nebraska lakes just suck, or am I just bad at distinguishing offshore schools? 😂 I might have to get ahold of Milliken one of these says to see if he has any words of wisdom for these Nebraska lakes when it comes to dialing in offshore.
On shallower muddy lakes, the bass won’t set up that deep offshore. For example, on lake Dardanelle in Arkansas, the average visibility is 0.5-2ft. The deepest I’ve ever caught an offshore bass on that lake is 12ft deep. Most will sit offshore in 2-8ft of water. But they can still be in 2-8ft of water 200 yards from the shoreline. You will most likely not see schools of fish on down imaging when they are that shallow. I would use side imaging, but that’s still pretty hard. My best advice is to find hard bottom like rock or brushpiles in 2-10ft of water close to a sharp drop off. Put your boat in 12-20ft and cast on top of the drop off in 2-8ft around any rock or brush you find. Hit a dozen spots like this and you will eventually get bit. I would only start doing this after the water temps are over 75 degrees.
@@FishtheMoment Yeah, so I wouldn’t say what I have been doing is too far off of what you explained. My go to in our lakes has been “find the grass, find the bass” if I can’t find them on offshore trees/brush piles/hard (rock) bottoms. Also, yes I totally agree on the water temp determining where I am “hunting”. Water temps are hitting 72 on average daily here in Nebraska from I’ve been seeing. You are literally the best insightful content creator and teacher on TH-cam. Thank you again for the words of wisdom. I am looking forward for the new jig/rig to hit the market. It’s sure to take off.
Hmmm… How to differentiate fish in cone periphery? Also. Lowrance Reveal feature attempts to apply this thinking, the melding of down and 2D. Wonder how effective it is?
Awesome content ordered some hover rigs can’t wait to try it out on some Lake Erie smallies when I get them y’all hiring yet for the tackle company would love to get in the fishing industry some how I’m a total bass nerd lol
I have two Lowrance and a Garmin unit. None of them are bright enough to use the downscan often enough when out in the bright sun. Doesn't matter at all what the background color is.
You can increase the screen brightness by pressing the power button one time. You can also change the color palette to yellow or bright green and this should make it easier to see.
Very cool. Is there a way to save settings as presets so I can load configurations for different conditions, rather the manually adjusting each setting?
so question. I have a humminbird piranha max 4 di. on the 2d sonar it beeps and shows a little fish symbol when I thinks it's a fish. unfortunately I can't run 2d and di side by side. is it worth have the fish alarm on that beeps and shows a fish symbol?
It depends on the size of the bass. If you are dealing with really large bass (4-6lbs) you can still see the bass after filtering out the grass. It doesn’t look great, but you can see the difference.
I recently picked up the striker 4 for my kayak. After using it for a while, I feel like the only information I’m really getting from it is water temp, and depth. Occasionally I see a fish, but I have no clue where the fish really is in relation to the kayak so I have no idea where to cast.
johnny. what's the degree of cone angle on the 2D, my 93SV UHD Garmin adjusts between 16 to 24 degrees with CHIRP falling at 19 degrees, just wandering what you think! my area I was graphing was 13 to 24 feet deep I could remove the trees but lost the fish but! two percent back got trees back with fish. Does cone angle matter!
I just switched to Garmin and haven’t messed around with cone angle setting yet. Still trying to dial in the Chirp with a 19 degree cone. I’ve found it harder to remove the trees and brush while keeping fish on the Garmin. I think a different frequency might help. As far as the cone angle goes, I think it will just impact how much of the cover you are capturing in each picture. I am going to run more tests and then post a sonar settings guide for the 106SV and the 93SV when I feel like the settings are working. May take a while though.
How useful is sonar whether traditional, down or side imaging, when searching shallower water (12 foot or less). Its my understanding that shallow water bass will move away from the sound of a motor running in shallow water.....so sonar might not be very useful in actually finding or seeing fish. Its great for searching for structure and cover but how about actual fish?
You can see fish in less than 12ft consistently with side imaging if you know what to look for. Down and 2D are not are useful. I will make a video explaining how to graph these shallower areas soon.
@fishthemoment - Jonny - on units with an option to select "cone width" ... do you prefer a narrow cone or wider cone. Or is it depth dependent? Thanks.
I haven’t experimented with cone width too much. With the new Chirp sonar, most units only let you set the width to 19 degrees. So I just stick with that and then change the other settings around it.
Amazing videos and God Bless all your hard work!!Love the electronics, great for pre-tournament practice or fun fishing!! Hopefully soon illegal for use on tournament day (s)!
Johnny - I wanted to do an offshore private virtual lesson with you specifically but you aren't listed as an instructor. Did you stop offering lessons?
Excuse my ignorance here, but if we’re looking at the 2D, downscan or sidescan “historical images” from the back of the boat then why are you and others always fishing from the front of the boat casting out in front and not off the back? Is your transducer mounted backwards? Why wouldn’t you fish out the back casting at what you just saw in the historical images? Thanks.
"to calibrate the fish finder, I catch a 3lbs, 5lbs fish and see what it looked like on the sonar"... Me: I got a fish finder so I might be able to catch a fish. Woohooo, this ones a 1 pounder!!!
hey johnny i just want to let you know that your videos helped me find fish every time I've been going out since i discovered your channel. just this last weekend i went out with my girlfriend and she caught 15 walleyes on her own! she even out fished me all because i found a good spot from watching your videos. thanks for all the hard work and amazing content you produce, it truly is top class stuff here and i wish you much much success
We need Garmin UHD settings!
This is precisely why I love using the fish reveal on my HDS Pro, getting those sonar arches overlayed into my downscan is awesome. I don't need to sacrifice screen space for 2D and can run just chart/down/sidescan and see absolutely everything.
This is top tier juice, Professor! I always use my traditional and down imaging in tandem and this confirms what I suspected I was seeing!
Very helpful! Thanks for sharing! Going to try these settings this weekend on Shearon Harris NC!
Dude you are such a stud for taking the massive time to make these videos!!! you have helped me so much these past few years. Thank You!!
One of the most informative presentations I’ve experienced. The 2D setup is genius. Thank you so much.
Fish finders are fun entertainment and sometimes effective toys when fishing, but you can't live and die by them. Many times, my wife and I catch the majority of the fish where there are the fewest showing on the finder. It comes in handy in finding the thermocline depth in the spring when trolling for trout ,but for kokanee and deep lake trout I can say that catching them has little or nothing to do with what we see on the finder. It is the running joke in our boat when we are catching or not catching. Good video.
Another great video Johnny. Never thought of that with 2D sonar but makes a ton sense. Keep those videos coming!!!!
I am blown away how “inaccurate” traditional Sonar is when simultaneously using Garmin LiveScope! Sonar, not Down Imaging, has so many False fish.
Found this true in fresh water and saltwater. Very disappointing as we have been chasing Fish that are not really there.
Love every Video you produce Johnny.
Thank You.
thank you for helping all anglers, when will we see your new swimbait? i use your other hover hooks and they are awesome!!
We are just waiting on packaging and then we will launch them on both coretackle.com and Tackle Warehouse.
Very excited for the announcement. We have been developing it for over a year.
Good recommendations! I'll give this a try next time I get out. Thanks!!
Just learning about fish finders and live in Bella Vista, so not far from Beaver Lake. Very good vid and looking forward to trying this.
Johnny thank you I’ll work on it up north there’s really only change in depth and seaweed Lily pads my 2D sonar helix seven marks the fish like a cartoon with size (2021) not colored streaks And you can set the size of fish small medium large
Love it! Any timeframe for when the Garmin 106sv sonar guide is coming?
You're the best when it comes to videos on graphing fish
So fish revel is a good tool to use on a down scan
As usual some great info. Not very often I disagree with you Jonny but.. Let's get together and visit. J.E.
Excellent information, will be useful clarifying what I am looking at
Your info is always top notch my freind keep up the amazing work
i just use the fish reveal feature and my success rate has been pretty good
Question, the water I fish is fairly clear, can see a bait 3-4 feet deep. I know theirs variables here but generally speaking, how shallow can I idle over a spot and not spook the fish.
Thanks, Johnny !
Was wondering where you have your transducer mounted
Great stuff. When I get my yak I will be using your guides to setup my electronics. 2d sounds like a key!
Johnny, do you feel as if not every lake contains offshore/schooled bass?
I graphed/idled a lake the other day here (Nebraska) that you would think contains good opportunity for offshore groups/schools as there is a lot of off shore structure in this specific lake, but every time I take the time to idle around, for even up to 2 hours at times, I can never seem to find them offshore on ledges/drop offs/offshore points, or even the on the hard structure I’ve found. Thus, I succumb and find myself doing the same old bank beating which always produces here.
I find this issue often with a lot of lakes here. Muddy/stained, with not much specific contour. Maybe it’s the lakes I go to? Could it be because majority of our lakes are dug out as “mud bowls”? Nebraska also at the moment is I believe the second driest state with a lot of our lakes down 4-5 feet in some cases.
Any insight is much appreciated. I have tried to apply your graphing/offshore knowledge and insight over the past couple years, and it has worked here and there, but not consistently. Do Nebraska lakes just suck, or am I just bad at distinguishing offshore schools? 😂
I might have to get ahold of Milliken one of these says to see if he has any words of wisdom for these Nebraska lakes when it comes to dialing in offshore.
On shallower muddy lakes, the bass won’t set up that deep offshore. For example, on lake Dardanelle in Arkansas, the average visibility is 0.5-2ft. The deepest I’ve ever caught an offshore bass on that lake is 12ft deep. Most will sit offshore in 2-8ft of water. But they can still be in 2-8ft of water 200 yards from the shoreline.
You will most likely not see schools of fish on down imaging when they are that shallow. I would use side imaging, but that’s still pretty hard.
My best advice is to find hard bottom like rock or brushpiles in 2-10ft of water close to a sharp drop off. Put your boat in 12-20ft and cast on top of the drop off in 2-8ft around any rock or brush you find. Hit a dozen spots like this and you will eventually get bit. I would only start doing this after the water temps are over 75 degrees.
@@FishtheMoment Yeah, so I wouldn’t say what I have been doing is too far off of what you explained. My go to in our lakes has been “find the grass, find the bass” if I can’t find them on offshore trees/brush piles/hard (rock) bottoms. Also, yes I totally agree on the water temp determining where I am “hunting”. Water temps are hitting 72 on average daily here in Nebraska from I’ve been seeing.
You are literally the best insightful content creator and teacher on TH-cam. Thank you again for the words of wisdom.
I am looking forward for the new jig/rig to hit the market. It’s sure to take off.
Hmmm… How to differentiate fish in cone periphery? Also. Lowrance Reveal feature attempts to apply this thinking, the melding of down and 2D. Wonder how effective it is?
I really liked your video. Great tips for traditional sonar.
Awesome content ordered some hover rigs can’t wait to try it out on some Lake Erie smallies when I get them y’all hiring yet for the tackle company would love to get in the fishing industry some how I’m a total bass nerd lol
Crazy, I’m a huge 2D guy!! Great juice, thanks!!
Awesome info! Thanks!!!!
***Would a big saltwater jig eliminate the small bites?
I have two Lowrance and a Garmin unit. None of them are bright enough to use the downscan often enough when out in the bright sun. Doesn't matter at all what the background color is.
You can increase the screen brightness by pressing the power button one time. You can also change the color palette to yellow or bright green and this should make it easier to see.
Very cool. Is there a way to save settings as presets so I can load configurations for different conditions, rather the manually adjusting each setting?
so question. I have a humminbird piranha max 4 di. on the 2d sonar it beeps and shows a little fish symbol when I thinks it's a fish. unfortunately I can't run 2d and di side by side. is it worth have the fish alarm on that beeps and shows a fish symbol?
great video wish it was as easy as you make it sound
This video really is helpful and useful
Can you filter grass out to only see the fish? I fish a delta system where there is a lot of grass.
It depends on the size of the bass. If you are dealing with really large bass (4-6lbs) you can still see the bass after filtering out the grass. It doesn’t look great, but you can see the difference.
I'm with you bringing back 2D brother
Outstanding information! Thanks for sharing your expertise!
Best on youtube! Another great video!
I recently picked up the striker 4 for my kayak. After using it for a while, I feel like the only information I’m really getting from it is water temp, and depth. Occasionally I see a fish, but I have no clue where the fish really is in relation to the kayak so I have no idea where to cast.
Check out this video. It should help: th-cam.com/video/_6O6LLzRkb8/w-d-xo.html
johnny. what's the degree of cone angle on the 2D, my 93SV UHD Garmin adjusts between 16 to 24 degrees with CHIRP falling at 19 degrees, just wandering what you think! my area I was graphing was 13 to 24 feet deep I could remove the trees but lost the fish but! two percent back got trees back with fish. Does cone angle matter!
I just switched to Garmin and haven’t messed around with cone angle setting yet. Still trying to dial in the Chirp with a 19 degree cone. I’ve found it harder to remove the trees and brush while keeping fish on the Garmin. I think a different frequency might help.
As far as the cone angle goes, I think it will just impact how much of the cover you are capturing in each picture. I am going to run more tests and then post a sonar settings guide for the 106SV and the 93SV when I feel like the settings are working. May take a while though.
How useful is sonar whether traditional, down or side imaging, when searching shallower water (12 foot or less). Its my understanding that shallow water bass will move away from the sound of a motor running in shallow water.....so sonar might not be very useful in actually finding or seeing fish. Its great for searching for structure and cover but how about actual fish?
You can see fish in less than 12ft consistently with side imaging if you know what to look for. Down and 2D are not are useful.
I will make a video explaining how to graph these shallower areas soon.
@fishthemoment - Jonny - on units with an option to select "cone width" ... do you prefer a narrow cone or wider cone. Or is it depth dependent? Thanks.
I haven’t experimented with cone width too much. With the new Chirp sonar, most units only let you set the width to 19 degrees. So I just stick with that and then change the other settings around it.
@@FishtheMoment OK...thanks.
Amazing videos and God Bless all your hard work!!Love the electronics, great for pre-tournament practice or fun fishing!! Hopefully soon illegal for use on tournament day (s)!
Informative video👍👍👍👍👍
This is probably a dumb question. I use a fish symbol instead of the arches. Am I missing fish by using it that way?
The fish symbols are usually not very accurate. They often will say things like wood, rock, and debris are fish when they are not.
@@FishtheMoment thank you for answering my question.
Johnny - I wanted to do an offshore private virtual lesson with you specifically but you aren't listed as an instructor. Did you stop offering lessons?
Excuse my ignorance here, but if we’re looking at the 2D, downscan or sidescan “historical images” from the back of the boat then why are you and others always fishing from the front of the boat casting out in front and not off the back? Is your transducer mounted backwards? Why wouldn’t you fish out the back casting at what you just saw in the historical images? Thanks.
Hey Johnny! What fish finder do you recommend for a kayak?
Thanks for all the amazing videos man.
Another tid bit of information to the
Puzzle.
Johnny, What do you think about the Lowrance Fish Reveal feature combining Downscan with the traditional overlay?
I have used it before and find it mis-identifies fish more often than not. It honestly does more harm than good in my opinion.
I want them Garmin information 😮
Jonny, keep doing electronic videos!
Excellent. Thx
Beware of a 4lb bass that passes through the outer weaker edge of the 2D cone that appears to be a 1-2lb fish. ;-)
You are exactly correct, glad someone brought this up. Thanks
Better dust off the ol' 2 D, thanks
Lol there’s only small bass in my lake.
"to calibrate the fish finder, I catch a 3lbs, 5lbs fish and see what it looked like on the sonar"...
Me: I got a fish finder so I might be able to catch a fish. Woohooo, this ones a 1 pounder!!!
Wouldn't it be easier to bring and drop some thawed bait fish you don't want to see and tune them out? Half your mission accomplished in 2 minutes. ??
Nice thanks im about to email you.
This is why you should just use the fish symbols that look like fish it shows them big or small .