Imagine Jay Electronica announced this as a collab album that would be a prelude to an upcoming solo album later this year... it could've went over a lot better.
Miguel Kelly that’s currently one of the 2 theories I have about Jay Elec right now. He knew that a debut would have such high expectations that he just said fuck it I’ll give y’all the real shit when I want too.
“I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars. They criticize me for it yet they all yell holla. If skills sold truth be told I’d probably be lyrically Talib Kwali. Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense but I did 5 milli and I ain’t been rhyming like Common since.”
@Eric F. Jr I'm trying to figure out how anything you just said makes a lick of sense. How am I "hating" on Jay-Z but defending "hating" by saying I don't listen to him? I don't listen to Jay-Z cuz I don't like his music. That's not hating. It's called "telling the truth about an opinion." I wasn't really talking about what he said. I talked about the way he rapped. And, for someone who doesn't care for him based on the albums I've heard, he surprised me here. I even asked for examples of other songs where he sounds like this cuz I'd like to hear them. How the hell is that hate?
@Eric F. Jr He's never talked like this and rapped so good at the same time. 444 had a similar subject matter, but his flow and rapping weren't as crisp as they are on this project. And i could care less for rap fans that don't like or don't listen to Jay Z.
Listen to kingdom come American gangster 444.... Songs like: Beach chair, the prelude, smile, 22 two's, and even what we talkin bout, on blueprint 3.....Encore and a lot of the black album. JAY-Z is truly one of the rare "gets better with time" MCs.
Let me drop a few tracks where Jay gives off some mature, vunerable bars before 4:44 (to name a few, feel free to add more)... Moment of Clarity (quoted above) Song Cry Never Change U Don't Know Nickels and Dimes Lost Ones Beach Chair Meet The Parents Lucky Me Soon You'll Understand Allure
@@reginaldwalkerjr.0611 Yeeeeeah meet the parents 💎💡🗝️ Anything Allure December 4th D-evils Nickels and dimes 📀🎤🗝️ Sooooo many man... He's definitely Inspired my work #ezelldazh Crisp, substantial message... Introspective and dutiful
I really enjoyed the album despite having no real idea wtf Elec is referring to most of the time. I haven’t been on the hype train for a Jay Elec album so when this came along I just took it for what it was. The fact Hov is one of my favourites just makes the album better for me. It’s been on heavy rotation these last few days.
Bro i literally feel the same way almost word for word, and i think that's what allows us to enjoy the project. I never viewed Jay Elect as some god mc nor did i give a fuck if he dropped another album, so i wasn't really comparing this to anything and pleasantly surprised to hear Hov all over the album. I knew a little of what he was talking about on this album so i was hyped to hear someone talking about it in raps.
“APDTA” is the most beautiful song I’ve heard in a long time. For Myke, the Jay Z you may be looking for is sprinkled around in his discography because “if rhymes sold I’d be lyrically Talib Kweli” but he was a business. “You Must Love Me”, “Can I Live”, “Where Have You Been” “D’Evils”, “Lost One”, “Blueprint (Momma Loves Me)”, “Heaven”, “Lucky Me” to name a few and of course most of 4:44.
What album is “ Heaven” on? I thought I knew every jay song apparently I don’t lol. But your right and his guest verse in Dead Prez “Hell Yeah”, Kanye west “ Diamonds from Sierra Leon” “Never Let me Down” “ Beach Chair” “No Hook” “FUTW” and nvm as I’m writing this I now realize that “Heaven” is on the “Magna Carter” album 😂😂. And his verses on “ Watch The Throne” is very in this lane as well. “you must love me” I’m about to make a Jay playlist lol
@Uncluded its dope but for me the sickest Jay Elect verses usually consisted of 1 verse, in between 1:30-2:30 in length, and maybe a sample pulled from film or black public figure.. Extra Extra, Abracadabra, Not a Disturbance, DMT, Departure...🔥🔥🔥
@@lyonmadit5015 nah foreal tho! Even when Jay Z’s shit is “dumbed down” still super lyrical. And actually I think him tryna simplify the words made Jay Z a better writer rather than complicated shit where EVERYTHING goes over peoples heads. Jay Z is easy to listen to and even funner to dissect
When I heard them I went nuts, thought I was going to get a verse and bust! Universal Soldier would have been lit with a Griselda feature...but again who the hell wants that Griselda smoke!!! Dem Griselda boys bring that volcano smoke... rumour has it Griselda resulted in Pompeii...buried an entire village in smoke and ash!
I think this is a great project! I got hip to Jay elec around 2010 I gave up hope of an album in 2016. So for me I’m happy he dropped an album. I think this album will age very well, I’m hoping he’ll drop more music sooner rather than later
It wouldn't of anyway theres plenty of rappers writing better Rhymes in one day. If it takes 10 years to release an album in my opinion.its questionable how good you are.
I remember in 2012 when Jay Electronica released a track list of 15 tracks for his Act II: Patents of Nobility (The Turn) album (google it). That is the album I wanted to hear. I wonder why he never released that album. It has all the just blaze production missing on “a written testimony” and it was gonna be a Jay Electronica led album not this Jay Z featuring Jay Electronica project that we got. It felt like Jay Z wanted to get off his common sense and talib kweli bars fully in a way he’s never done before and doing this via jay electronica was the way he felt he could do it. I wish it was just called a joint project like watch the throne and then jay electronica releases Act II: Patents of Nobility (The Turn) afterwards (I hope he still does)
Jay Electronica sounded like a guest in his own debut, Jay Z washed him on the whole shit, to wait 10 years for this is frustrating, it's not a bad project but is frustrating as hell.
I agree but I honestly was expecting this to happen if he ever did an album. I always expected Hov on a Jay Elect project but not almost every song. If you take the Jay-Z aspect and just forget about it, it's still a dope project.
@Big John Boatright Agreed honestly should've just put Jay's name in the title, I would've been fine with that. Yes it's disappointing we don't get just him but the fact that we get an album instead of just songs here and there like he's done over the past decade I''ll take it. Still better than most albums out today just based of lyrics and content.
@Big John Boatright I felt this was needed for the fans of hip hop on a mainstream level. We just don't see these caliber of hip-hop artists making music like this nowadays.
Have you read the lyrics and do you understand what Jay Electronica is saying? I think it's hard to say Jay E got washed or even that Jay Z was better when you dont understand it have read what Jay E was saying
The line about staying up for Falon late nights is about his sister (named Falon) - the previous bar is about Hav asking him to drop an album for his sister
Im rocking with my man behind the cameras take. Jay elec was solid. Underwhelming album. But I enjoyed it. Ear plug, headphone listen. 6 or 7 out of 10. Not the best mix, tho. I think JUST BLAZE will bless the next album.
It was more cryptic then old elec that’s why it wasn’t appreciated as much but in terms of being entertaining on the mic jay outshined him….old jay elec was conscious had mad double / triple entendres , crazy rhymes schemes all that but he also had charisma on the mic & he was funny sometimes I feel like he kinda lost that a bit…but jay z did that style justice like myke said maybe cause jay z was hanging out with younger guys like Mach hommy and that give him a spark lyrically & since jay z still got that charisma on the mic that’s why he outshined him
gunnyo50 I mean, Joe and others got him a bit raddled, I don’t see why the valid points made here won’t give him some needed insight on what to do next.
Am I the only one who liked the album for what it was and didn't feel like Jay Elec was lacking lyrically. The only verse he spit that was kinda lazy was the song where he kept rhyming body with party. I like that Hov was on it a lot and I don't think that he washed him. As crazy as it sounds, they both were rappin' about the same shit. Jay-Z hasn't bragged really on an album since Magna Carta. Outside of there not being any hard drums on the record, I was satisfied with it.
Me I loved it....they are kinda contradicting Jay z has been a 5% er since magna carta. Jay Elec has been with the NOI for the past 10 years. I really need people to do real research before they review, and not also put others input into your opinion. Also I believe Jay Elec's goal was to bring attention to the NOI because Of Mr. Farrakhan's ban from the net.
In general fans that dont like it, arent giving reasons about the quality of the music, they are more just upset because it's not what they expected and they aren't accepting it for what it is. The quality of the music, lyricism etc is excellent and to me this is a piece of art.
Also most people love the album including critics, theres just a few mixed reviews but there mainly based on there being jay z on it which is just not accepting it for what it is
If anything takes 10 years it'll disappoint and the problem with J electronica is he doesn't have that much material, so if he has about 12 songs in his catalog everything is amazing but that's all his work from 10 years it's not fair to compare that to a rappers who has 50+ songs. They based expectations on a small catalogue. And let's not forget that j electronica was on control too. We only remember Kendrick and Big Shane
Blunted After Dark Media I loved it, I just think people aren’t listening to jay elects bars because he doesn’t have energy, if he rapped with the exhibit C/A energy I feel people would of been all over it.
I feel like if you don’t understand the message of the album it becomes just an okay album. If y’all did a lyrical breakdown in conjunction to the sonical critique, it would definitely take on a whole different meaning. Picking it apart piece by piece isn’t doing it justice as a complete piece of art. Also, interesting that you mention Travis Scott’s feature replacing Kanye, it makes the rift between Jay Z and Kanye that much more apparent. The heavy Islam influence in this album compared to Kanye being heavily influenced by Christianity brings to mind more questions about their relationship and how they’ve both individually evolved over time.
Can't believe 2 of these dudes consider themselves Jay Z fans and think 4:44 is his only time being vulnerable. I could understand the dude with dreads saying he doesn't really listen to Jay, but Jay spits like this across his career
Seems like the people that say that are talking about the album as a whole. 4:44 Jay is transparent on the entire project as opposed to 4 or 5 songs on a reg Jay album
Facts jay z probably the most personal rapper. That’s his appeal, he’s remained relevant all these years for 2 reasons: 1. He always embraces new hot artists. 2. He raps about his real personal life, from his drug days to being married while most rappers just rap about them same 4-5 years they were in the street life.
The moment I heard Hov rapping first on this album I understood alot about Jay Elect. From having Hov on here 8 times, to the 10 year wait, to having another rapper start off your debut album….it told me Jay Elect might not be as confident in his work as we think AND he is uncomfortable with being critiqued….I still enjoyed the album, I think that their are alot of things that I need to go back and read and do research on because in Hip Hop I dont think we had someone talk about the FOI as open as they did on this album. So alot of the bars I didnt or understand so it will take some time to really digest but I also think people had unreasonable expectations for it and adding Hov on it put the bar of expectations into outer space.
Jay-z been on the 5%/Gods and Earth shi.. Remember back in the day he was under Jaz. I think Charlemagne even asked him about it on the breakfast club.
Jay has literally been this good for YEARS. He can turn this on and off. He knows what kind of rapper Jay Elect is and knows that he has to come correct so Jay really used the full breadth of his powers. Jay Z can do this anytime he wants and is truly the best rapper alive.
“Backstabbers don’t take it back to the Ol’ Jay...he ain’t as sweet as the Old Yay” triple entendra....the OJays did a song called Backstabbers...2) an OJ reference 3)referencing himself
Definitely not worth waiting 10 years for. The intro he didn't even rap on and you'd think after 10 years he'd at least make the effort to then just having someone talk. An Budden was right Jay outrapped him on his own shit it definitely sounds more like a Jay album. Usually I think Budden talks shit but I agree with him this time.
myke speaking straight fucking facts about the mach hommy shit, hov jacked his entire style. i hope mach was actually ghostwriting that shit so hes paid his dues cause otherwise this was a robbery
It's simple, Jay Elec was scared to embarrass himself because of the expectations so he made the album like this. He was good back in the day, but he's not even close to as good as people hyped him up to be and I won't be told otherwise until he proves himself again. Anyone can write 5 amazing songs, but it's about who can do it consistently and for a longer period of time.
I agree with the first part of your comment, but he has shown to be consistently good from track to track. He has about 100 songs out before this, Google it.
It’s so crazy that you guys are the reason why I really have an insight on hip-hop music and I really wanted to venture into making reviews and like you guys really inspired me to do so and it’s just crazy to think that like I was 15 years old when I started watching y’all and I’m 24. From Making reviews in Beezy’s car to a studio.
So you want him to be spitting like he's 30 year old when dude now 40,? The problem is most folk are ten years old but mentally ten years behind so that why they like jay elect from ten years ago..
This whole project showed and he explained his issues with SELF, DOUBT, AND INSECURITIES, he is still dealing with. The war is still brewing within him, even while still on his spiritual journey. He's not in a happy place outside the confides of the NOI affiliation.
10:00-10:06 THANK YOU!!! Sooooooo glad someone finally said what I was. This is why fucks with y’all. I noticed it immediately and instantly thought MACH HOMMY flow through jay elec album.
The production and lyrics were solid. If I was told that a Jay Z and Jay Electronica album was coming, I would be happy. And that’s what we got. So I’m happy! I disagree with the review, but enjoy hearing you guys. Stay safe brothas!
In terms of just the music, I like this album. Regardless of Jay Z being all over it. I still really enjoy Jay Electronica's rapping on it, Jay Z's rapping is great. The production is outstanding. I love the black empowerment, and surprisingly even the 5%r hotep shit. I can understand why people could be upset that this isn't really a Jay Electronica solo debut. That's fair, but when talking about the album purely from a music standpoint, it's still very good.
"I feel like you was riding a bike and never took the training wheels off" BRO EXACTLY. tell me why the fuck Jay Elec is a 40-year old man sounding like Hov's little nephew that he's tryna put on?
I think it was never was supposed to come out to begin with. It's not uncommon for artist to get signed for the sole purpose to shelve that artist for various reasons. But I'll keep my theories to myself. EDIT: I posted before I heard the review and Myke said Jay bit off Mach Hommy. Myke is that dude for saying that.
Covid 19 definitely does not bump in the whip
"CORONAVIIIIRUS!!"
Not the prototypical coronavirus I was expecting
It even stops other shit from bumping in the whip.
My God that was a corny ass line!!!
Can't wait til shit go back to normal. 😣
Jay Electronica has been social distancing himself from dropping an actual debut album for 10+ years.
Well aren't you creative
Well he chose the wrong time to stop social distancing then
He should have continued social distancing himself with a subpar project like this.
😂😂😂
And he still did not
This look like a bunch of caterers on break talking about the new Jay Elec album lol
Totally agree they look like a bunch of Subway workers.
😂😂
I was lost at first till I looked up at the tv and was reminded that they all have gloves on lol
😂😂😂🤣🤣
respect y'all heavy
Respek complex ambition too, yall review/reaction was super dope
"rapping his ass off" is Myke's "bump in the whip"
& “The Way He Was Rhyming”😂
Imagine Jay Electronica announced this as a collab album that would be a prelude to an upcoming solo album later this year... it could've went over a lot better.
Miguel Kelly “later this year” aka end of this century
That's a great point!
I feel like that's what it is....he likes the element of surprise tho
A1 Marketing 🙌🏾
Miguel Kelly that’s currently one of the 2 theories I have about Jay Elec right now. He knew that a debut would have such high expectations that he just said fuck it I’ll give y’all the real shit when I want too.
Every other year Myke threatens to become a Jay-z fan and then.....nope lol
@Keyser Soeze Like Kinge and Kanye
@@abhinavbhat3657 naw Kinge likes early Kanye and is just a heartbroken fan. Myke was never a Jay-z fan
“I dumbed down for my audience to double my dollars. They criticize me for it yet they all yell holla. If skills sold truth be told I’d probably be lyrically Talib Kwali. Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense but I did 5 milli and I ain’t been rhyming like Common since.”
@Eric F. Jr I'm trying to figure out how anything you just said makes a lick of sense. How am I "hating" on Jay-Z but defending "hating" by saying I don't listen to him? I don't listen to Jay-Z cuz I don't like his music. That's not hating. It's called "telling the truth about an opinion." I wasn't really talking about what he said. I talked about the way he rapped. And, for someone who doesn't care for him based on the albums I've heard, he surprised me here. I even asked for examples of other songs where he sounds like this cuz I'd like to hear them. How the hell is that hate?
@Eric F. Jr He's never talked like this and rapped so good at the same time. 444 had a similar subject matter, but his flow and rapping weren't as crisp as they are on this project. And i could care less for rap fans that don't like or don't listen to Jay Z.
Listen to kingdom come
American gangster
444....
Songs like: Beach chair, the prelude, smile, 22 two's, and even what we talkin bout, on blueprint 3.....Encore and a lot of the black album. JAY-Z is truly one of the rare "gets better with time" MCs.
Let me drop a few tracks where Jay gives off some mature, vunerable bars before 4:44 (to name a few, feel free to add more)...
Moment of Clarity (quoted above)
Song Cry
Never Change
U Don't Know
Nickels and Dimes
Lost Ones
Beach Chair
Meet The Parents
Lucky Me
Soon You'll Understand
Allure
@@reginaldwalkerjr.0611
Yeeeeeah meet the parents 💎💡🗝️
Anything
Allure
December 4th
D-evils
Nickels and dimes
📀🎤🗝️
Sooooo many man...
He's definitely Inspired my work #ezelldazh
Crisp, substantial message... Introspective and dutiful
This why 3 stacks don't want to put out music.
Tj Bryan man I need that 3 stacks album😭😭😭
The world needs that 3 Stacks album.
@@boitumelomachele4930 fax. But we'll never get it.
@@RealPhatRadio fax. But we'll never get it.
It's not that he doesn't want to drop an album it's just that Andre thinks he's done enough work (Outkast) that he doesn't need to.
Myke looking like "The Help" wiping the couch and tables.
Lmao
This comment killed me
🤣🤣🤣
Dominic Yoya Kabinga lmaoooo
lmaooo
It was said that they made the last song the night that Kobe Bryant died.
Ok and?
@@luism8130 just a fun fact
And??
Crunkbeast the sentence ended lmao yy are you talking about
okay lol
I really enjoyed the album despite having no real idea wtf Elec is referring to most of the time.
I haven’t been on the hype train for a Jay Elec album so when this came along I just took it for what it was. The fact Hov is one of my favourites just makes the album better for me.
It’s been on heavy rotation these last few days.
Bro i literally feel the same way almost word for word, and i think that's what allows us to enjoy the project. I never viewed Jay Elect as some god mc nor did i give a fuck if he dropped another album, so i wasn't really comparing this to anything and pleasantly surprised to hear Hov all over the album. I knew a little of what he was talking about on this album so i was hyped to hear someone talking about it in raps.
He's talking about a lot of spiritual stuff mixed with different Muslim stuff.
🤙🏾👍🏾✔ i concur, stay dope..
@@joejett5084 Jay Electronica is part of the Nation Of Islam.
I agree with you. I feel like people’s expectations ruined the listen for themselves. This album is still better than 80% of things out there.
“APDTA” is the most beautiful song I’ve heard in a long time. For Myke, the Jay Z you may be looking for is sprinkled around in his discography because “if rhymes sold I’d be lyrically Talib Kweli” but he was a business. “You Must Love Me”, “Can I Live”, “Where Have You Been” “D’Evils”, “Lost One”, “Blueprint (Momma Loves Me)”, “Heaven”, “Lucky Me” to name a few and of course most of 4:44.
What album is “ Heaven” on? I thought I knew every jay song apparently I don’t lol. But your right and his guest verse in Dead Prez “Hell Yeah”, Kanye west “ Diamonds from Sierra Leon” “Never Let me Down” “ Beach Chair” “No Hook” “FUTW” and nvm as I’m writing this I now realize that “Heaven” is on the “Magna Carter” album 😂😂. And his verses on “ Watch The Throne” is very in this lane as well. “you must love me” I’m about to make a Jay playlist lol
@@jwood8769 a Jaylist
@@jwood8769 Heaven is on Magna Carta Holy Grail funny enough, his weakest album lol
stop lying to myke lmao
Thank you for this list! I've heard D'Evils and I like that song. But I don't know that I'm familiar with the others you named.
Jay Electronica’s next album will drop the same year as Wu-Tang’s “Once Upon A Time In Shaolin“.
Dead
😂
or Detox
Fruits of the Spirit is the closest thing to old Jay Elect
@Uncluded its dope but for me the sickest Jay Elect verses usually consisted of 1 verse, in between 1:30-2:30 in length, and maybe a sample pulled from film or black public figure.. Extra Extra, Abracadabra, Not a Disturbance, DMT, Departure...🔥🔥🔥
FYI is my fav Jay song ever , but this album is fire too if you understand it
Truths
@@asrarmohammed4075 this album is for those in the mosque and who have studied HEM
Just to add to why Jay-Z showed that emotion on the last track. It was actually made the night that Kobe Bryant died
The Dream sounding like a female Motown singer from 68' on Shiny Suit Theory is the best thing on this album.
Trippy🙆🏿♂️
I was wondering how he was a feature 🤣🤣
Myke killing this review, he right on everything. This project just made me want a Hov album.
Man what? Definitely need a new hov album after this.
He is completely wrong about «Jay dont rap like this».
He needs to the listen to the second verse of «brooklyn go hard» and much more....
Who was that he said jay has been hanging out with?
@@crowing3886 do what Joe Budden said, take Jay Elec off and you got a Hov mixtape lmao. But fr I'll always want a Hov album.
Who was he saying jay-z sounded like????
gonna watch this tomorrow but it’s a like either way, stay safe everyone!
Good to see Mach-Hommy's influence in the rap scene finally not going unnoticed
bro im dying, they put a montage of them cleaning at the start, lmaoooo especially when i saw myke clean hahahaha
Lol omm
What a crazy 1:30am upload. lets go
Jay Z was talking big 5 percenter talk on Holy Grail and he’s worn the 7 chain. He’s been about this life
Remember and most NYC rappers were raised around Five Percent Nation of Gods and Earths
Brookie cookie album trash was trash
He’s made a lot of reference through the years. I think he takes bits in pieces from all of it.
Fax that shit was heavy on 444 and on what's free on meek last project
Not to mention.. Jay Z's mentors Big Daddy Kane & Jaz-O are 5%ers... Hov fans aren't suprised by the content
Every time B talks about his mother i get emotional
Sidar Kesen thug tears for the homie
Idk why but them wearing gloves during the review has me crying lmao
Hahaha 🤣
I honestly I really enjoyed this album I know that Jay z was on almost every track I still enjoyed it.
KRthehomie me too, dudes want something to complain about
What's with all you Jay-Z haters. He's an amazing lyricist and his lyrics, wordplay, and references on this album were high tier. You're pathetic.
Yea. I only enjoy BECAUSE of Jay Z. I don’t mind skippin the Jay Elect parts
@@lyonmadit5015 nah foreal tho! Even when Jay Z’s shit is “dumbed down” still super lyrical. And actually I think him tryna simplify the words made Jay Z a better writer rather than complicated shit where EVERYTHING goes over peoples heads. Jay Z is easy to listen to and even funner to dissect
@@BrandNameLess jay z was forgettable to me
YO THANK YOU MIKE FOR FINALLY GIVING HOV HIS CREDIT
Am I the only one who heard Westside Gunn ad-libs all over this?
When I heard them I went nuts, thought I was going to get a verse and bust! Universal Soldier would have been lit with a Griselda feature...but again who the hell wants that Griselda smoke!!! Dem Griselda boys bring that volcano smoke... rumour has it Griselda resulted in Pompeii...buried an entire village in smoke and ash!
benny got hov rapping.
They also just sounded like dump gawd adlibs tbh
Naw I heard it too. Jay is biting Westside Gunns style
No
Watching this before bed. Love y'all
It's Sunday morning over here🇿🇦
Jay²
Hyper underrated comment
Adler _ review has been out for less then a day chill
SPRB another underrated comment lol great thread
finally someone said it. i was wondering what the comments would be if they got a jay rock feature on it for weeks.
Now THAT'S an album title!!!
This is just “Jesus is King” Islam edition.
Oh shit, you might be on to something.
Allah is King as some have called. Or “Watch the Wheel”.
Not close my g
Hell no
Jesus is King was so much better
Love the input from Mike saying how Mach Hommy gave him Ques. Jay Z was definitely tapping into those Mach Hommy Flows
P. Old Hov influenced Mach and Mach now influenced Hov in this album listen to some Mach projects he has so many different styles, unlimited
Love ALL mikes takes on here, you’re brillliant bro
40 mins?!? Yea this review about to be classic ✊🏽
Been waiting on this!
I think this is a great project! I got hip to Jay elec around 2010 I gave up hope of an album in 2016. So for me I’m happy he dropped an album. I think this album will age very well, I’m hoping he’ll drop more music sooner rather than later
"You needed a thesaurus, the Qu'ran, the Bible, a dictionary, Google and Ask Jeeves to decipher the s*** he was saying on Eternal Sunshine"
Lmao 😂🤣
Nah... Eternal Sunshine was simple and straight foward. This new album went too over peoples head.
@@felipealem6590 Then it's not that simple if it goes over a lot of people's heads.
No matter what elec dropped he was never gonna live up to the crazy hype from all these years. As a watch the throne style tag team tho it bumps
It wouldn't of anyway theres plenty of rappers writing better Rhymes in one day. If it takes 10 years to release an album in my opinion.its questionable how good you are.
I remember in 2012 when Jay Electronica released a track list of 15 tracks for his Act II: Patents of Nobility (The Turn) album (google it). That is the album I wanted to hear. I wonder why he never released that album. It has all the just blaze production missing on “a written testimony” and it was gonna be a Jay Electronica led album not this Jay Z featuring Jay Electronica project that we got. It felt like Jay Z wanted to get off his common sense and talib kweli bars fully in a way he’s never done before and doing this via jay electronica was the way he felt he could do it. I wish it was just called a joint project like watch the throne and then jay electronica releases Act II: Patents of Nobility (The Turn) afterwards (I hope he still does)
Look at y'all leading by example. Love it. Hope y'all stay safe and hygenic.
Jay Electronica sounded like a guest in his own debut, Jay Z washed him on the whole shit, to wait 10 years for this is frustrating, it's not a bad project but is frustrating as hell.
Neverending Story, Fruits of the spirit, APIDTA
I agree but I honestly was expecting this to happen if he ever did an album. I always expected Hov on a Jay Elect project but not almost every song. If you take the Jay-Z aspect and just forget about it, it's still a dope project.
@Big John Boatright Agreed honestly should've just put Jay's name in the title, I would've been fine with that. Yes it's disappointing we don't get just him but the fact that we get an album instead of just songs here and there like he's done over the past decade I''ll take it. Still better than most albums out today just based of lyrics and content.
@Big John Boatright I felt this was needed for the fans of hip hop on a mainstream level. We just don't see these caliber of hip-hop artists making music like this nowadays.
Have you read the lyrics and do you understand what Jay Electronica is saying? I think it's hard to say Jay E got washed or even that Jay Z was better when you dont understand it have read what Jay E was saying
The line about staying up for Falon late nights is about his sister (named Falon) - the previous bar is about Hav asking him to drop an album for his sister
Feefo and Myke how is that “Weeknd album “ looking ?
Im rocking with my man behind the cameras take. Jay elec was solid. Underwhelming album. But I enjoyed it. Ear plug, headphone listen. 6 or 7 out of 10. Not the best mix, tho. I think JUST BLAZE will bless the next album.
Whenever we get it.
10 years for this hard 6? Probably not another coming. 12 years later MAYBE 😤
album was meh ..kinda boring
Well while yaw waitin....go download my album👽📀🎤💎 Worth ya time no Cap
i with you, the more i listened to it the less i liked it and understood people's criticism
Been bumpin’ this album all day for the first time since summer. So good!
The Fallon line was referencing his sister named Fallon
love how y'all working on cleaning the studio and the importance of protecting from the virus. I hope y'all stay safe! The DEHH crew gotta stay alive
Feefo kills the intro, clean. No one can touch him on TH-cam
This is the Dear Summer of the 2020s.
Jay was doing that before dear summer
Revisiting this album I feel Jay Electronica’s lyricism was slept on
It was more cryptic then old elec that’s why it wasn’t appreciated as much but in terms of being entertaining on the mic jay outshined him….old jay elec was conscious had mad double / triple entendres , crazy rhymes schemes all that but he also had charisma on the mic & he was funny sometimes I feel like he kinda lost that a bit…but jay z did that style justice like myke said maybe cause jay z was hanging out with younger guys like Mach hommy and that give him a spark lyrically & since jay z still got that charisma on the mic that’s why he outshined him
@@giovannidejoie8618 I definitely was trolling … Jay Electronica is Jay Electronica
@@justicexholidayJust went back to it, still dogshit.
Thanks for the effort, really appreciate y’all dedication. Wouldn’t mind a remote review through Zoom
I hope Jay Electronica sees this review and it lights a fire in him.
Nothing lit a fire in Jay Electronica for 10 years, I doubt these guys critiques of his latest work would compile him to do any better.
gunnyo50 I mean, Joe and others got him a bit raddled, I don’t see why the valid points made here won’t give him some needed insight on what to do next.
He can’t take criticism
DJ Devinstation he didn’t want to drop an album for fear of criticism so I think more criticism will make him even less likely to drop something
If he sees this review he’s 110% never dropping another album again LMAO
Am I the only one who liked the album for what it was and didn't feel like Jay Elec was lacking lyrically. The only verse he spit that was kinda lazy was the song where he kept rhyming body with party. I like that Hov was on it a lot and I don't think that he washed him. As crazy as it sounds, they both were rappin' about the same shit. Jay-Z hasn't bragged really on an album since Magna Carta. Outside of there not being any hard drums on the record, I was satisfied with it.
Me I loved it....they are kinda contradicting Jay z has been a 5% er since magna carta. Jay Elec has been with the NOI for the past 10 years. I really need people to do real research before they review, and not also put others input into your opinion. Also I believe Jay Elec's goal was to bring attention to the NOI because Of Mr. Farrakhan's ban from the net.
In general fans that dont like it, arent giving reasons about the quality of the music, they are more just upset because it's not what they expected and they aren't accepting it for what it is. The quality of the music, lyricism etc is excellent and to me this is a piece of art.
Also most people love the album including critics, theres just a few mixed reviews but there mainly based on there being jay z on it which is just not accepting it for what it is
If anything takes 10 years it'll disappoint and the problem with J electronica is he doesn't have that much material, so if he has about 12 songs in his catalog everything is amazing but that's all his work from 10 years it's not fair to compare that to a rappers who has 50+ songs.
They based expectations on a small catalogue.
And let's not forget that j electronica was on control too. We only remember Kendrick and Big Shane
Blunted After Dark Media I loved it, I just think people aren’t listening to jay elects bars because he doesn’t have energy, if he rapped with the exhibit C/A energy I feel people would of been all over it.
Appreciate any and all content, guys and team! Stay safe everyone.
I feel like if you don’t understand the message of the album it becomes just an okay album. If y’all did a lyrical breakdown in conjunction to the sonical critique, it would definitely take on a whole different meaning. Picking it apart piece by piece isn’t doing it justice as a complete piece of art.
Also, interesting that you mention Travis Scott’s feature replacing Kanye, it makes the rift between Jay Z and Kanye that much more apparent. The heavy Islam influence in this album compared to Kanye being heavily influenced by Christianity brings to mind more questions about their relationship and how they’ve both individually evolved over time.
THANK YOU DEHH for giving us ONE more Review for possibly the year!! Much love and respect. Stay safe!
Can't believe 2 of these dudes consider themselves Jay Z fans and think 4:44 is his only time being vulnerable. I could understand the dude with dreads saying he doesn't really listen to Jay, but Jay spits like this across his career
Seems like the people that say that are talking about the album as a whole. 4:44 Jay is transparent on the entire project as opposed to 4 or 5 songs on a reg Jay album
4:44 as a whole. Jay-Z has always shown vulnerabilities just not for entire album.
You Must Love Me
Facts jay z probably the most personal rapper. That’s his appeal, he’s remained relevant all these years for 2 reasons:
1. He always embraces new hot artists.
2. He raps about his real personal life, from his drug days to being married while most rappers just rap about them same 4-5 years they were in the street life.
I can't believe they didn't fuck with Fruits of The Spirit. It's the best song on the album by far.
Been watching y’all since the Take Care review. Hope y’all stay safe❤️
Oh yeah? Well I've been here since Sorry 4 The Wait Review. Looks like I win.
Jxson247 yo avi pic legendary 🙌🏽💯😎👏🏽👌🏽
Mixing is from the Myspace era on half the tracks. No excuse for that these days.
@TORAH KNIGHT TEMPLE: JUDAH NATZARAH I half agree with you but there's plenty gritty beats mixed clean
The moment I heard Hov rapping first on this album I understood alot about Jay Elect. From having Hov on here 8 times, to the 10 year wait, to having another rapper start off your debut album….it told me Jay Elect might not be as confident in his work as we think AND he is uncomfortable with being critiqued….I still enjoyed the album, I think that their are alot of things that I need to go back and read and do research on because in Hip Hop I dont think we had someone talk about the FOI as open as they did on this album. So alot of the bars I didnt or understand so it will take some time to really digest but I also think people had unreasonable expectations for it and adding Hov on it put the bar of expectations into outer space.
I preciate you guys risking y’all safety to still get content out . Thanks again guys been anticipating this review an Electronica’s album
Jay-z been on the 5%/Gods and Earth shi.. Remember back in the day he was under Jaz. I think Charlemagne even asked him about it on the breakfast club.
No Jay Z is not a Five Percenter, no no one from Allah School in Mecca. Look for TH-cam clip by Born Justice Allah and the source magazine.
Yeah he’s always referenced it and has taking nuggets from it. I doubt he’s a member
Just a voice for da people..the many people, places, things that encompass HIP-HOP. And maturing justly...#ezelldazh
Whether he's a member or not he's definitely been giving them nods forever now.
Jay Z used to be with Jaz-O and the Ansaar Allah community.
They recorded APIDTA on the day they found out about Kobe (said that on the live release). Really just shows how recent the actual recording has been
Jay has literally been this good for YEARS. He can turn this on and off. He knows what kind of rapper Jay Elect is and knows that he has to come correct so Jay really used the full breadth of his powers. Jay Z can do this anytime he wants and is truly the best rapper alive.
“Backstabbers don’t take it back to the Ol’ Jay...he ain’t as sweet as the Old Yay” triple entendra....the OJays did a song called Backstabbers...2) an OJ reference 3)referencing himself
Rick Harding 🍪
Be safe out there guys! Thanks for the content.
Been a fan since 2011. Listening to this sanitizing a building. Love you guys, stay safe.
Excited to see this one.
I believe Jay Z heard the album and said, “ I gots to get on this”. This is a level of Hov we have not heard.
Definitely not worth waiting 10 years for. The intro he didn't even rap on and you'd think after 10 years he'd at least make the effort to then just having someone talk. An Budden was right Jay outrapped him on his own shit it definitely sounds more like a Jay album. Usually I think Budden talks shit but I agree with him this time.
@Daniel Hill I preferred Kaynes album over this and that was proper corny.
Joe us completely right The gap between Hov and Elect was massive in this imo. Jay had so many dope verses
myke speaking straight fucking facts about the mach hommy shit, hov jacked his entire style. i hope mach was actually ghostwriting that shit so hes paid his dues cause otherwise this was a robbery
Oh yall dropping dropping!
It's simple, Jay Elec was scared to embarrass himself because of the expectations so he made the album like this. He was good back in the day, but he's not even close to as good as people hyped him up to be and I won't be told otherwise until he proves himself again. Anyone can write 5 amazing songs, but it's about who can do it consistently and for a longer period of time.
Dorian RC Taylor relax brother
I agree with the first part of your comment, but he has shown to be consistently good from track to track. He has about 100 songs out before this, Google it.
"Anyone" you say...well where are your 5 classic songs???
@Dorian RC Taylor no
"anyone can write 5 amazing songs" um no they cannot lol
Mike: “I am not a jayz fan”
Mike: “Jayz doesn’t rap like this”
lol
The fact that he really thinks that he was rapping better on this than on The Blueprint is crazy to me
Myke has a really weird bias against JayZ. Pretty much hates all his albums except for his debut
@@eyecontrol4900 I think Myke maybe a bit of a contrarian. Anything that isn't abstract isn't for him.
@@TONEYVISIONENTERTAINMENT reasonable doubt isn't abstract but he liked it. I think he just hates Bling Era sounds in his Jay's later 2000s albums
Fries so good, it ruined the meal....damn thats crazy
yo! i didn't even make the Mach Hommy connection but after going back to listen, Myke is spot-on. Jay's flow is way more buttery than Mach's tho.
Appreciate that the DEHH guys gave us this review.
Stay healthy all 🙏🏾
It was a JAY-Z mixtape with heavy Jay Elec features.
It’s so crazy that you guys are the reason why I really have an insight on hip-hop music and I really wanted to venture into making reviews and like you guys really inspired me to do so and it’s just crazy to think that like I was 15 years old when I started watching y’all and I’m 24. From Making reviews in Beezy’s car to a studio.
I liked this album but yeah JAY ELECTRONICA had better lyrics 10 years ago.
Totally agree
So you want him to be spitting like he's 30 year old when dude now 40,? The problem is most folk are ten years old but mentally ten years behind so that why they like jay elect from ten years ago..
Been waiting on this shit !
This whole project showed and he explained his issues with SELF, DOUBT, AND INSECURITIES, he is still dealing with. The war is still brewing within him, even while still on his spiritual journey. He's not in a happy place outside the confides of the NOI affiliation.
Not easy to be chosen to save lives
"Stop rapping" I'm fucking dead, bro
This was the most disappointing album so far. Babysitting album. Jay Z rapped like a beast though!
@@TealeafRogers real talk this album felt insulting cause I came out of it wanting a Jay Z album on another man's album.
love y’all for doing this came at the perfect time
The title of this video should be "Jay Z - A Written Testimony Album Review"
you are correct with this
10:00-10:06 THANK YOU!!! Sooooooo glad someone finally said what I was. This is why fucks with y’all. I noticed it immediately and instantly thought MACH HOMMY flow through jay elec album.
The production and lyrics were solid. If I was told that a Jay Z and Jay Electronica album was coming, I would be happy. And that’s what we got. So I’m happy! I disagree with the review, but enjoy hearing you guys. Stay safe brothas!
That vegan chicken and fries analogy should be in a DEHH funny moments compilation.
Y'all stay safe out here!!
Thanks fellas for this review....appreciated
In terms of just the music, I like this album. Regardless of Jay Z being all over it. I still really enjoy Jay Electronica's rapping on it, Jay Z's rapping is great. The production is outstanding. I love the black empowerment, and surprisingly even the 5%r hotep shit. I can understand why people could be upset that this isn't really a Jay Electronica solo debut. That's fair, but when talking about the album purely from a music standpoint, it's still very good.
Classic album..was waiting on the review 🔥🔥🔥
Rod Exhibit C is extremely complex you didn't peep all of the double entendres, metaphors, and all of the other literary devices.
@Keyser Soeze lol read into the lyrics it's not that hard.
@Keyser Soeze 🤣
"I feel like you was riding a bike and never took the training wheels off"
BRO EXACTLY. tell me why the fuck Jay Elec is a 40-year old man sounding like Hov's little nephew that he's tryna put on?
Fruits of the spirit is the best verse on this album.
Thanks for the quarantine gift. Stay safe y’all🙏🏾
The only reason this probably came out is because of how much Jay-Z is on it lmao if it was 100% Jay Elect it would've never come out
I think it was never was supposed to come out to begin with. It's not uncommon for artist to get signed for the sole purpose to shelve that artist for various reasons. But I'll keep my theories to myself.
EDIT: I posted before I heard the review and Myke said Jay bit off Mach Hommy. Myke is that dude for saying that.
It's like that Dear Summer situation with Memphis Bleek all over again.
Facts.
Mach-Hommy Was Supposed To Have A Verse On Neverending Story😭