2:03 The documentary ‘what the culture feelin’ is a staple in history now. We are all grateful for his peeling the layers back, because words do matter and the depth of this specific beef is so important. And that importance Can Not be overstated. For me, the most highlighting fact of the matter is what the disconnection really means for people as ‘culture viltures’.
Please, bring it! As a 62 year-old Black woman and educator, I was impressed by NLU on so many levels. I taught ententre for a week. Shocked that I used NLU in a lesson, my students would not let go! They identified this part of language in their daily speech. They went on to compare and contrast poetry of Biggie Smalls and Edgar Alan Poe. I've been enlightened by my students.
Wow FD and Toure together. Toure’s appearances on The Michael Brooks Show turned me on to more of his work whereas before it was a namely I most was just familiar with but didn’t hear speak. Toure is incredibly eloquent, and I love seeing two well informed dudes with good politics chop it up
Fd brought me here AGAIN. Not really I subbed on the first upload love you journalism. You’ve done the work. Respect. Edit: at the end u explain exactly what brought me here. Less grow
My GenZ child told me about FD a couple yrs ago. I’m a social worker and get preachy about the culture, lol~and I feel honored that something I was saying in our discussion caused him to ask me if I’d ever heard of FD Signifier~one of the best gifts in awhile. In short, if he makes it I’ll watch it. Toure, I’ve been knowing since MTV generation ~we hear it a lot, and at the risk of sounding trite, I have to say Toure was landmark at the time~one place a black American teen wouldn’t see someone who looked like them was MTV at the time…then one day we did. Great interview and great discussion~I also love seeing in action how black folks are not monolithic, and we get to see/experience this in action with these two intelligent and interesting black American living icons🙏🏽😉
Regarding Kendrick's sometimes backwards politics, i think he himself has acknowledged (at least on the last record) his own flawed nature as this cultural leader and honeslty he's an artist/musician at the end of the day, I'm not expecting his politics to be perfect, his effectiveness comes from total honesty about his personal experience which will sometimes result in contradictions and flawed politics, my main critique of Kendrick would be the hypocrisy, a lot of which has already been discussed in regards to the beef
I’ll give yall a hint about who Fiq is talking about near the end: his initials are TP. That’s probably enough. To help a bit, he was in the 2009 Star Trek film.
1:04:48 in case anyone is curious, and I’m not certain, but FD has repeatedly joked he won’t get too deep on Farrakhan for fear of his own safety lmao Now that FD joking the response would be to lay out anyone associated with him too, it’s gotta be the honorable minister lmao
Yall ninja are wack! Speaking well and making sense! We ain't got no time for daDat!😂 Good interview. I'm subscribed to you both. Toure' I have enjoyed watching your career over the decades. Keep doing what you do and being true to You.
cool, from india and i love his videos i do sometimes get pissed of his opinons, but overall i am highly interested in black culture so i binge watch and revisit his videos,, it would be awesome if more black woman start doing video essays as well
There’s so many! Khadijah Mwboe (prob spelled wrong), Tee Noir, Olurinatti, and they usually collab w other video essayist. If you dive deep enough into fd’s discog, he has a lot of collabs with smaller creators and larger ones too. Also, may I ask what opinions of his you don’t like? I’d appreciate your perspective
@@SLATTERDAYWasn't directed at me but I'll share what opinions of his that get me pissed... LoL I disagree with his approach to black boys and masculinity. We have similar backgrounds in working with youth and I find he is overly dismissive of the role/importance that "traditional masculinity" plays in the development of boys to men.
I really appreciate this discourse. Correction: A "Herald" (noun) The official messenger, (Kdot), brings news and tidings. To "like" the news or what ever is being herald is neither here nor there. However, Kdots NLS "herald" (verb) the change how we see/respect the culture. Drake is NOT an example of our herald! Period. Thank you sirs.
Shoutout to SuperEyepatchWolf! 🙌 My stepdad is black and a correctional officer so i'm interested in hearing FD's piece on it. i've also been curious on his opinions too but i havent gotten around to asking about it
Kendrick was really kind to Adonis and his daughter but his tone was unmerciful to his parent and Aubrey G. Drake mentioned his family first, and he warned him twice. Drake is a show me baby, and he f@@@ around and found out. I like Kiki do you love me but not if it is associated with K. Kardashians.
yeah dot was being pretty polite to sandra herself, even in the beginning, and I always notice that at the end dot says "that ain't how mama raised us," including sandra in the mama there. cuz you know that ain't how sandra raised him either.
@@KinggDC He said its a big figure in entertainment and he has mentioned making a Tyler video but needing more resources especially since FD lives in ATL and Tyler having a super production studio in Atl (Aka. Bougie nigga politics)
@@solitude1x I feel you I'm glad you provided context, I feel you're right tbh. I was just saying I don't know for surely who he was talking about 🤣🤣, but you spittin for surely.
Super Eyepatch Wolf, Tee Noir, Khadija Mbowe, Dan Olson (Folding Ideas), CJ the X, Lil Bill, Foreign Man in a Foreign Land, Some More News, Anthony Fantano (The Needle Drop) and Hasan Piker (hasanabi) are some of the ones who were mentioned. I didn't catch all the black women and femme creators he shouted out because I'm not familiar with all of them, so as compensation I'll also shout out his frequent collaborator Olayemi Olurin (Olurinatti) and Kat Blaque, who's an OG in the space and someone he has shouted out in other occasions. Other creators he often shouts out and/or work with include Tirrrb, Nickolas Nameolas, Jawn Louis, Andrewism, TheStoryteller, La'Ron Readus (Readus 101), Anansi's Library, 1Dime Swolesome and Noah Samson. His community page in both his channels have A BUNCH of shout outs, because, as he discussed, he's trying to build an ecosystem up, so you can go there and have a feast.
I believe it's been mentioned multiple times on his live streams that he's referring to Tyler Perry, but I could be wrong. He's steered away from dissing dirtbag left debate bros (Destiny, Vaush, Xanderhal, etc.), he doesn't like the weird beefs so it's just subliminals against them now.
Kendrick stole summer for Drake lol. Imagine having all these fun plans for summer vacation and you break your leg and can't do any of that stuff lol. Kendrick broke Drake's leg LOL
34:48 40 also hasn’t been the creative lead on a project since 2016, with the health issues and being unhappy with the industry. Even high end recording studios TMZ affiliates never see him actually in the studio anymore.
The responsibility of the figurheads is to promote and preserve the culture itself and the black people that created it, not everybody else. And this didn't need to be said in the 70s and 80s because most people knew it already because it was an underground culture and the mainstream looked down on it. But others just wanted a check, which was also well known and understood as selling out. And we see which side won out. Keep in mind this goes back to the era when the Nation of Islam, Afrocentrics and Public Enemy were dominant in the culture along with conscious rap (late 80s and early 90s) who all talked about these things. So the point is, those today trying to claim they didn't know or understand as an excuse for how things turned out are just lying. Tupac knew exactly what he was doing when he created THUG life and he explained and laid it out in numerous speeches, some of which are on youtube. Kendrick has never been that kind of guy who actually goes out and gives speeches about his philosophy about his role and impact on the culture. It doesn't even make sense to make these guys as significant in the culture outside of just being artists selling a product. They aren't anywhere near what hip hop was in the 80s and 90s as truly tied to the grassroots, beyond simple records but in the streets and everyday life. There was no spotify, there was no tiktok, there was no youtube, there was no cds, the only way you heard this stuff was in the community as part of the people that created it. Buju Banton just did an episode of Drink Champs. He spells out the mentality of the 70s, 80s and 90s clearly. Kendrick and Drake are performers who signed contracts to a record company and have to produce albums and their primary responsibility is to honor that. And if promoting a rap beef does it, then so be it.
That quote from the guy who bigged up Killer Mike is crazy work. Screw talking out the other side of your face, dude has 6 mouths so he can talk out every side of his head and even got one of those Sukuna gut mouths so he can talk out of his belly.
I watch both your channels and like the quality of your content. 😊 Glad you guys had this conversation. I wish my friend Lew and I would but this here wit you brilliantly articulate dudes will do🩵
34:06 i strongly disagree with this. His songs sound the same to the point that theyre formulaic. Same tempo, rhythm, themes, phrasing, key. He even uses the same 5 syllable phrasing in dozens of his songs from “Baby you da besssss” to “i love all my friendsss”
11:04 but what did we expect? They're the main buyers of HipHop. It was gonna be commodified eventually for this very reason via sales. Peoole will go to the one they identiy with the most and will soon try to replicate that in their image hence Jack Harlow or Eminem or boosting a Champagne Poppy Drake. He was just the chosen /easiest target because he was so big but also so popular for not being "HipHop". Still its weird because we're not millionaires with Kendrick.
F.D Signer saw my texts because his irreverance for Tupac was getting a bit much. East vs. West Coast was media driven nonsense that caused unnecessary violence. His whole legacy of 24 year old young man (prophet) legacy but he was rightfully paranoid at the end of his life.
I’m not seeing how Kendrick is in sempatico with the culture… that’s not a good enough excuse… ((The culture itself ain’t exempt… )) The culture was feeling the drakes of hiphop well before they was feeling the Kendricks of hiphop🤷♂️.
I just heard rich b-ball players gettin on. Idk. But it's that jigga sh. Whatever he's purported to be on, it don't really reach a toe outside ego, money, power. Skill, all day. But so what. A wise man said the artist can't help but express what is in them. What happened to vibes? I NEVER liked jigga. I don't 'believe' a word of it. I don't care what he did, didn't do. That's not it. Why? And 'Freedom' ? Might as well be called, 'Beyonce is the sh." that's what I hear. I don't care. People 'should' REALLY think about what Kendrick is saying. Like, 'make money an incidental, a tool. Archetypic. Personality. Knowledge of self: spirit, body, mental, emotional, if you will. Alexander on Diogenes. People want to be Alexander. Alexander thought Diogenes was the coldest mfer alive. Emperor had to be about his ish, but he knew, this is the guy. We would recoil from him probably. But you might say he's living a commentary on the ACTUAL value of vanity. _ And yet, all but impossible for a man to be without dignity. If you know...
Could listen to him talk for hours.
F.D is special, I found him from the Drake video but his catalogue of essays really is something else.
Agreed 👍🏾💯
Did you delete or hide the family matters video? I feel like a saw it for a few mins and then it disappeared.
@@azwifheli9451nah still not released
YOO 2 goats coming together! Think I heard him say he watched part of the Euphoria breakdown on a B-Sides video
Welcome to the family cousin. Ive been listening to him for years and i feel the same way. 💕💕💕
I love how F.D. is recognized in so many sectors. Truly a talent and a great voice. He's represents some of the best of us.
2:03
The documentary ‘what the culture feelin’ is a staple in history now. We are all grateful for his peeling the layers back, because words do matter and the depth of this specific beef is so important. And that importance Can Not be overstated.
For me, the most highlighting fact of the matter is what the disconnection really means for people as ‘culture viltures’.
Please, bring it! As a 62 year-old Black woman and educator, I was impressed by NLU on so many levels. I taught ententre for a week. Shocked that I used NLU in a lesson, my students would not let go! They identified this part of language in their daily speech. They went on to compare and contrast poetry of Biggie Smalls and Edgar Alan Poe. I've been enlightened by my students.
Wow FD and Toure together.
Toure’s appearances on The Michael Brooks Show turned me on to more of his work whereas before it was a namely I most was just familiar with but didn’t hear speak. Toure is incredibly eloquent, and I love seeing two well informed dudes with good politics chop it up
Wow. I don’t see enough people talking about Toures interview skills. I watch a lot of interviews. Toure is a master interviewer.
Fd brought me here AGAIN. Not really I subbed on the first upload love you journalism. You’ve done the work. Respect.
Edit: at the end u explain exactly what brought me here. Less grow
1000% here for attrition of FD! Living his guest appearance in other media ❤️
My GenZ child told me about FD a couple yrs ago. I’m a social worker and get preachy about the culture, lol~and I feel honored that something I was saying in our discussion caused him to ask me if I’d ever heard of FD Signifier~one of the best gifts in awhile. In short, if he makes it I’ll watch it. Toure, I’ve been knowing since MTV generation ~we hear it a lot, and at the risk of sounding trite, I have to say Toure was landmark at the time~one place a black American teen wouldn’t see someone who looked like them was MTV at the time…then one day we did. Great interview and great discussion~I also love seeing in action how black folks are not monolithic, and we get to see/experience this in action with these two intelligent and interesting black American living icons🙏🏽😉
This interview is so refreshing.
Very good video! POWER TO THE BLACK MEN!
Cam James is also an up and coming brother in this video essay space.
Yes, I applaud these insightful and intelligent brothers, their voice is needed 💖
Had to go listen to Aston Martin Music and that shit would definitely hit in the stripclub like a movie sequence.
Lmao on God
I just watched this yesterday!! I was glued to it! Sooo good!!!
Regarding Kendrick's sometimes backwards politics, i think he himself has acknowledged (at least on the last record) his own flawed nature as this cultural leader and honeslty he's an artist/musician at the end of the day, I'm not expecting his politics to be perfect, his effectiveness comes from total honesty about his personal experience which will sometimes result in contradictions and flawed politics, my main critique of Kendrick would be the hypocrisy, a lot of which has already been discussed in regards to the beef
Salute, FD Signifier...
The Company Man's Culture United Zoom brought me here.
The bamboozled viddy made me a subscriber
The video was incredible and this conversation was excellent!
FD's a real one, congratulations to him! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾✨
I’ll give yall a hint about who Fiq is talking about near the end: his initials are TP. That’s probably enough. To help a bit, he was in the 2009 Star Trek film.
I watched that entire video twice lol. Just because of its presentation.
1:04:48 in case anyone is curious, and I’m not certain, but FD has repeatedly joked he won’t get too deep on Farrakhan for fear of his own safety lmao
Now that FD joking the response would be to lay out anyone associated with him too, it’s gotta be the honorable minister lmao
I swear i watched this yesterday, whyd it get re-uploaded?
i think yt took down the og vid
@@sebastianmv2069 oh that's weird. Thank you
Same I was legit confused
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Toure looks so good lmao i had to say it
Yall ninja are wack! Speaking well and making sense! We ain't got no time for daDat!😂
Good interview. I'm subscribed to you both. Toure' I have enjoyed watching your career over the decades. Keep doing what you do and being true to You.
So what did they have to cut out from this interview in order for it to be re-uploaded?
cool, from india and i love his videos i do sometimes get pissed of his opinons, but overall i am highly interested in black culture so i binge watch and revisit his videos,, it would be awesome if more black woman start doing video essays as well
There’s so many! Khadijah Mwboe (prob spelled wrong), Tee Noir, Olurinatti, and they usually collab w other video essayist. If you dive deep enough into fd’s discog, he has a lot of collabs with smaller creators and larger ones too.
Also, may I ask what opinions of his you don’t like? I’d appreciate your perspective
@@SLATTERDAYWasn't directed at me but I'll share what opinions of his that get me pissed... LoL
I disagree with his approach to black boys and masculinity. We have similar backgrounds in working with youth and I find he is overly dismissive of the role/importance that "traditional masculinity" plays in the development of boys to men.
@@dually81 Yeah, he’s can be a bit dismissive of certain things but, I think he’s getting better about that!
This was such a good video. Thank yall both!
Yoooo I see you FD.
I really appreciate this discourse. Correction: A "Herald" (noun) The official messenger, (Kdot), brings news and tidings. To "like" the news or what ever is being herald is neither here nor there. However, Kdots NLS "herald" (verb) the change how we see/respect the culture. Drake is NOT an example of our herald! Period. Thank you sirs.
Shoutout to SuperEyepatchWolf! 🙌
My stepdad is black and a correctional officer so i'm interested in hearing FD's piece on it. i've also been curious on his opinions too but i havent gotten around to asking about it
I really appreciate this...Listen to Ken's new song....he basically says this all of this.
FD made a live stream commenting about it + the Super Bowl announcement. The edited version is on his Signified B-Sides channel.
Great conversation.
100. The issue is, with sheep culture leading, every hiphop artist that works outside the box gets blackballed
canada's rap sound is Geddy pitch shifted on Roll the Bones
I'm so glad I found this comment lol.
@@kevinwillems8720cheers
Kendrick was really kind to Adonis and his daughter but his tone was unmerciful to his parent and Aubrey G. Drake mentioned his family first, and he warned him twice. Drake is a show me baby, and he f@@@ around and found out. I like Kiki do you love me but not if it is associated with K. Kardashians.
I would argue his tone was kind towards his Mother too
yeah dot was being pretty polite to sandra herself, even in the beginning, and I always notice that at the end dot says "that ain't how mama raised us," including sandra in the mama there. cuz you know that ain't how sandra raised him either.
Didn't I watch this yesterday and it had much more views?
FD talking about Louis Farakan 😭😭 ive only ever seen him show fear when talking about the NOI.
Nah. It’s somebody FD can’t stand. He may critique for Farrakhan. But not a full takedown
@@Corilla72no he’s right it’s Farakan for sure
@@solitude1x it could be Tyler Perry tbh, I'm unsure of who he's talking about fr
@@KinggDC He said its a big figure in entertainment and he has mentioned making a Tyler video but needing more resources especially since FD lives in ATL and Tyler having a super production studio in Atl (Aka. Bougie nigga politics)
@@solitude1x I feel you I'm glad you provided context, I feel you're right tbh. I was just saying I don't know for surely who he was talking about 🤣🤣, but you spittin for surely.
Did anyone catch all the video essayists he mentioned?
Super Eyepatch Wolf, Tee Noir, Khadija Mbowe, Dan Olson (Folding Ideas), CJ the X, Lil Bill, Foreign Man in a Foreign Land, Some More News, Anthony Fantano (The Needle Drop) and Hasan Piker (hasanabi) are some of the ones who were mentioned.
I didn't catch all the black women and femme creators he shouted out because I'm not familiar with all of them, so as compensation I'll also shout out his frequent collaborator Olayemi Olurin (Olurinatti) and Kat Blaque, who's an OG in the space and someone he has shouted out in other occasions.
Other creators he often shouts out and/or work with include Tirrrb, Nickolas Nameolas, Jawn Louis, Andrewism, TheStoryteller, La'Ron Readus (Readus 101), Anansi's Library, 1Dime Swolesome and Noah Samson. His community page in both his channels have A BUNCH of shout outs, because, as he discussed, he's trying to build an ecosystem up, so you can go there and have a feast.
I'm what the culture feeling
aawesome
4:28 Im assuming its Destiny, which would be extremely valid because fuck everything about him and his existence on this Earth
Who is that? And what’s wrong with her?
It's probably Eren and his fans, he has a lot more animosity towards that
I believe it's been mentioned multiple times on his live streams that he's referring to Tyler Perry, but I could be wrong. He's steered away from dissing dirtbag left debate bros (Destiny, Vaush, Xanderhal, etc.), he doesn't like the weird beefs so it's just subliminals against them now.
Kendrick stole summer for Drake lol. Imagine having all these fun plans for summer vacation and you break your leg and can't do any of that stuff lol. Kendrick broke Drake's leg LOL
YEAH
34:48 40 also hasn’t been the creative lead on a project since 2016, with the health issues and being unhappy with the industry. Even high end recording studios TMZ affiliates never see him actually in the studio anymore.
4:40 who’s FD talking about?
The responsibility of the figurheads is to promote and preserve the culture itself and the black people that created it, not everybody else. And this didn't need to be said in the 70s and 80s because most people knew it already because it was an underground culture and the mainstream looked down on it. But others just wanted a check, which was also well known and understood as selling out. And we see which side won out. Keep in mind this goes back to the era when the Nation of Islam, Afrocentrics and Public Enemy were dominant in the culture along with conscious rap (late 80s and early 90s) who all talked about these things. So the point is, those today trying to claim they didn't know or understand as an excuse for how things turned out are just lying. Tupac knew exactly what he was doing when he created THUG life and he explained and laid it out in numerous speeches, some of which are on youtube. Kendrick has never been that kind of guy who actually goes out and gives speeches about his philosophy about his role and impact on the culture. It doesn't even make sense to make these guys as significant in the culture outside of just being artists selling a product. They aren't anywhere near what hip hop was in the 80s and 90s as truly tied to the grassroots, beyond simple records but in the streets and everyday life. There was no spotify, there was no tiktok, there was no youtube, there was no cds, the only way you heard this stuff was in the community as part of the people that created it.
Buju Banton just did an episode of Drink Champs. He spells out the mentality of the 70s, 80s and 90s clearly.
Kendrick and Drake are performers who signed contracts to a record company and have to produce albums and their primary responsibility is to honor that. And if promoting a rap beef does it, then so be it.
Makng a Drake beef video and having your editor hide a child from you is too "on the nose", "meta", whatever terms y'all be using
I was watching Open Mic Eagle react to Tyler the Creator, and this thumbnail kept flickering in the corner.
"dear adonis" is also when i got scared of what i was hearing
29:48 lol the Pinup’s reference >>>. That was my first good strip club experience and the wings were A1 😂
That quote from the guy who bigged up Killer Mike is crazy work.
Screw talking out the other side of your face, dude has 6 mouths so he can talk out every side of his head and even got one of those Sukuna gut mouths so he can talk out of his belly.
About fad’s comment on Kendrick on blacker the berry…that wasn’t police violence
4:50 i wonder if it’s killer Mike lmao
I’m like 99% sure it’s vaush, who just unfollowed after the video about leftist fighting
How come Toure doesn't comb his hair anymore 🤷🏽
I just wanna know what that Garfield video was
EDIT: My dumb ass should have kept listening
I watch both your channels and like the quality of your content. 😊 Glad you guys had this conversation. I wish my friend Lew and I would but this here wit you brilliantly articulate dudes will do🩵
34:06 i strongly disagree with this. His songs sound the same to the point that theyre formulaic. Same tempo, rhythm, themes, phrasing, key. He even uses the same 5 syllable phrasing in dozens of his songs from “Baby you da besssss” to “i love all my friendsss”
11:04 but what did we expect? They're the main buyers of HipHop.
It was gonna be commodified eventually for this very reason via sales. Peoole will go to the one they identiy with the most and will soon try to replicate that in their image hence Jack Harlow or Eminem or boosting a Champagne Poppy Drake.
He was just the chosen /easiest target because he was so big but also so popular for not being "HipHop".
Still its weird because we're not millionaires with Kendrick.
F.D Signer saw my texts because his irreverance for Tupac was getting a bit much. East vs. West Coast was media driven nonsense that caused unnecessary violence. His whole legacy of 24 year old young man (prophet) legacy but he was rightfully paranoid at the end of his life.
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Ja Rule had a good run but don't give him too much credit...
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...I really have an issue with a seasoned journalist who hasn't done their research. It's literally their job.
journalist? who?
I’m not a drake fan today I’m 32 I aged out about 7 or 8 years ago but he can’t be compared to a Flo-rida
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Who let Don Malcom King X here?
I’m not seeing how Kendrick is in sempatico with the culture… that’s not a good enough excuse…
((The culture itself ain’t exempt… ))
The culture was feeling the drakes of hiphop well before they was feeling the Kendricks of hiphop🤷♂️.
I was the first person to make a video about how Trump is Drake, Kamala is Kendrick, and Jill Stein is J. Cole ✅
Biased video
I love FD, but 3.5 hours was way too much.
Not in the least. It was quite enjoyable. But I guess we each have our thresholds.
I was excited for it and wasn't disappointed.
To you...
Long videos are definitely daunting, but this one was very digestible.i was able to sit through it and watch it entirely in one sitting
Watched it 2 times in one day
I just heard rich b-ball players gettin on. Idk. But it's that jigga sh. Whatever he's purported to be on, it don't really reach a toe outside ego, money, power. Skill, all day. But so what. A wise man said the artist can't help but express what is in them. What happened to vibes? I NEVER liked jigga. I don't 'believe' a word of it. I don't care what he did, didn't do. That's not it. Why? And 'Freedom' ? Might as well be called, 'Beyonce is the sh." that's what I hear. I don't care. People 'should' REALLY think about what Kendrick is saying. Like, 'make money an incidental, a tool. Archetypic. Personality. Knowledge of self: spirit, body, mental, emotional, if you will. Alexander on Diogenes. People want to be Alexander. Alexander thought Diogenes was the coldest mfer alive. Emperor had to be about his ish, but he knew, this is the guy. We would recoil from him probably. But you might say he's living a commentary on the ACTUAL value of vanity. _ And yet, all but impossible for a man to be without dignity. If you know...
Why do yall expect someone who didn’t grow up in the American struggle to speak on it he’s Canadian for gods sake
Being Canadian doesn’t exclude you from experiencing things like poverty or racism .
Kai isn’t bigger than Al
It is the bomb, you have to flip it and go view it.🥲