Thanks for the review, Ash. 🙂👍 Andy Law is very nice to deal with, and delivers high quality tools promptly, professionally and at what I consider to be very respectable prices. I would recommend his products to any lock sport enthusiast in Britain who has a modicum of skill and a care for their toolkit. This professional-level set has 25 items, including a very good case, so £145 is an average of only £5.80 per item. Compare that with buying 24 picks from Peterson's which would cost £180 at £7.50 each, plus delivery, and I have no qualms with the LLT asking price. As for the tool 'duplication', that's fine, because, if the worst happens, you will still have a very nearly identical backup tool for the job. Yes, a deeper hook could be very useful, and a worthwhile addition even if that bumped to price to £151, and providing that the steel is stiff enough to withstand the flexing and strains of a deeper hook, whilst still giving decent feedback. Guess what hints my wife is about to receive as suggestions for a Wedding Anniversary gift for the man in her life? 😁
Nice review Ash thanks. I will list all the picks individually on the website as soon as I can. The weld splatter you pointed out will scratch off easily with your finger nail 👍 Tipene also mentioned making a deep hook too. It's on the to do list 👍
I'm only about 3 months into picking. I purchased a different set in .18 in and .15 in. I separated the .15 in into a separate case because I know I would damage them at this point. This set looks really nice and I like the range of pry bars. I'm just not ready for it yet. Although it's very nice.
I loved your review. I am not experienced enough to work with this delicate 0.015 steel. However, sometimes it is the only thing which works for some locks. So, until I manage to dial down my heavyish tension. I will continue bending picks out of shape in hopes I keep improving to bend fewer and fewer picks in the future...
I own several of these. I don't recall their names, but that one you picked up with the weld splatter is a pick which is the ONLY way I was able to open a particularly brutal old Sargent I have. Just the right reach, just the right thickness - and tough enough to lift the pin against a ton of drag to keep from dropping the other pins. I bent another makers "reach" pick trying to do it, and bought the Laws pick for the task. For the past 2 years, I only pick very used, very weathered old locks with no keys available. I know, weird hobby. 😫🙄
Great review of a lovely kit. A bit out of my league as I already have .015 picks from other makers, but I could see myself investing in something like this some day. One thing I do find encouraging is how more manufacturers, including this one, are starting to make prybars that are both longer and thicker. I really appreciate this trend and I hope it continues.
Very nice and thorough review thank you. I like that set, looks like good quality and such a nice selection of tools. I'm not sure what I bought from law lock, but I have them bookmarked, so I must have shopped there before.
Want want want want want want want want want want want want want want want want want want I'm liking the tension tool options on top of everything else. If I get this set, I'll have to finally get and attempt a DOM.
Yea, 3:18 Be careful or you’ll get a cease and desist letter from Velcro. For anyone wondering, no, I’m not joking. It’s safe to use “hook-and-loop fastener.” Then again, they are a company based in Blighty so maybe they’ll cut you some slack.
@@cmarano ha! I just checked my emails before you replied, I guess I never signed up, surprising as I have one set of Law Lock tools already. Guess I bought them off a third party. Thanks for the heads up!
I have the ridgeback set and just wish I had a larger variety of rakes. otherwise I love it. This one looks super nice, but I'd destroy .015 picks 😂 would be cool to have both though.
I so wished I could afford these. Hopefully down the road. Shit I’m a year into picking and I still don’t trust myself with the regular ones😂. But I have started to use them more. Hopefully Xmas I’ll order a few spares and this set. And his new tension wrench I heard about. Thanks for review. Agree with everything ya said.
I like law lock tools but I’m not a fan of those super long handles. Nice review as usual. Definitely some picks in there that would make most collections a little more versatile. Always appreciate plenty of tension tools too. Edit, i really prefer the thinner picks. Only use a few .0020 picks and most of my collection is .0015 so happy to get a few more options in that thickness.
Start with the most simple locks. Master #3 and Brinks. Watch the first few videos on Bosnian Bill's Channel. Buy a repinable pratice lock and remove all but the first two pins. When you get confident add a pin. Keep doing that untill you are good at 6 pins. Then start over with one spool and a standard pin. Then gradually add standard pins and move arthe spool. Then start adding more security pins, but alwayes keep one standard pin in the lock or it will feel really sloppy. Pratice, pratice, pratice, is the last hint.
@@zidanh6058 there are special training locks which have screws so you can remove pins without having to gut them. I personally only know the one from multi pick. I can recommend Bosnian Bills videos, too. And I started with some ABUS 85/50 and standard locks. I started raking them until I got a good false set. Then just gently tried to find the pin that gives counter rotation. Then reset, start again. Until I really got the feeling for the counter rotation. Also note: really check out videos (LN, Bosnian Bill) or sites where they give examples for good beginner's locks. I got very frustrated with a Burgwächter 77010 (or so) and thought a) I would never get it and b) my pick set was way to big to get to the last pin. Nope... Now I open it with a hair pin and a bend paperclip. The lock is just not beginner friendly.
I like and use 0.015” picks on a regular basis but manage to do so with about 2-4 picks; a set may be nice but most picks in a set get wasted in jot getting used.
All the other picks from LLT can be bought individually, so i'm pretty sure these will show the same way very soon. If you break a pick, it should be possible to buy a replace... And of course it should be possible to buy individual picks, if you don't want/need a complete kit!
You will experience counter rotation when picking security pins, like spool pins. Try watching some of LN's great videos on picking security pins... I will also recommend you to watch videos of Bosnian Bill, Helpfull Lockpicker etc. There is a lot to learn! Welcome to lock sport :)
@@HairyStuff64 It seems most picking relies on applying continuous turning tension on the single core as the pins are moved. This could be nullified by a core which turns independently with each pin. A multiple, stacked core. Just a core which is sliced into as many segments as there are pins, or perhaps one extra. I wonder if that would work. ..
@@MrDavePed The one i saw, could be picked with a deep tension wrench, as only the half core with pin 4 - 6, was the piece with the actuator. In your case, i'm afraid i would only have to pick one pin. The most rear one. If of course i used a tension wrench that reminded of a disc detainer tensioner. But keep trying and you might end up with a great idea :)
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Full tang 301 high yield stainless steel in 0.015”? Sure! 😃👍
It’s so true about the tension tool situation as iv been picking for donkeys now lit find tensions tools under my sofa. 😂🤣
Thanks for the review, Ash. 🙂👍
Andy Law is very nice to deal with, and delivers high quality tools promptly, professionally and at what I consider to be very respectable prices. I would recommend his products to any lock sport enthusiast in Britain who has a modicum of skill and a care for their toolkit.
This professional-level set has 25 items, including a very good case, so £145 is an average of only £5.80 per item. Compare that with buying 24 picks from Peterson's which would cost £180 at £7.50 each, plus delivery, and I have no qualms with the LLT asking price.
As for the tool 'duplication', that's fine, because, if the worst happens, you will still have a very nearly identical backup tool for the job. Yes, a deeper hook could be very useful, and a worthwhile addition even if that bumped to price to £151, and providing that the steel is stiff enough to withstand the flexing and strains of a deeper hook, whilst still giving decent feedback.
Guess what hints my wife is about to receive as suggestions for a Wedding Anniversary gift for the man in her life? 😁
Nice review Ash thanks. I will list all the picks individually on the website as soon as I can. The weld splatter you pointed out will scratch off easily with your finger nail 👍 Tipene also mentioned making a deep hook too. It's on the to do list 👍
Sign me up for the extra deep hook when you make it
These are amazing I bought these almost a year ago and the handles are amazing I like them as much as sparrows and peterson
a great combination of hooks. im a HUGE FAN of lawlock picks. absolutely love their handles.
I'm only about 3 months into picking. I purchased a different set in .18 in and .15 in. I separated the .15 in into a separate case because I know I would damage them at this point. This set looks really nice and I like the range of pry bars. I'm just not ready for it yet. Although it's very nice.
I loved your review. I am not experienced enough to work with this delicate 0.015 steel. However, sometimes it is the only thing which works for some locks. So, until I manage to dial down my heavyish tension. I will continue bending picks out of shape in hopes I keep improving to bend fewer and fewer picks in the future...
I own several of these. I don't recall their names, but that one you picked up with the weld splatter is a pick which is the ONLY way I was able to open a particularly brutal old Sargent I have. Just the right reach, just the right thickness - and tough enough to lift the pin against a ton of drag to keep from dropping the other pins. I bent another makers "reach" pick trying to do it, and bought the Laws pick for the task.
For the past 2 years, I only pick very used, very weathered old locks with no keys available. I know, weird hobby. 😫🙄
Great review of a lovely kit. A bit out of my league as I already have .015 picks from other makers, but I could see myself investing in something like this some day. One thing I do find encouraging is how more manufacturers, including this one, are starting to make prybars that are both longer and thicker. I really appreciate this trend and I hope it continues.
Big fan of LawLock Tools, thanks for your explanation that was not a pitch. Looking to add hooks, and not up to this set yet.
Awesome review! they looks great, love the 0.4mm picks.
Thanks a lot for showing my friend ;o))
Very nice and thorough review thank you.
I like that set, looks like good quality and such a nice selection of tools.
I'm not sure what I bought from law lock, but I have them bookmarked, so I must have shopped there before.
Want want want want want want want want want want want want want want want want want want
I'm liking the tension tool options on top of everything else. If I get this set, I'll have to finally get and attempt a DOM.
A few days ago, I watched an episode of LockLab. B.B. hated the Sc1 keyway until he had some .015's made up, said they were perfect for that keyway.
I use law picks exclusively. You can buy any picks individually as well so it's super easy to only spend money on the kit you think you will want.
Yea, 3:18 Be careful or you’ll get a cease and desist letter from Velcro. For anyone wondering, no, I’m not joking. It’s safe to use “hook-and-loop fastener.” Then again, they are a company based in Blighty so maybe they’ll cut you some slack.
Love Law Lock Handles and their full tang construction. This is all the .15 picks I'd ever need. Going to run over and take a look on their website.
Hoping for a memorial day sale...
@@DAdamTrammell 10% off if sign up for emails.
@@cmarano ha! I just checked my emails before you replied, I guess I never signed up, surprising as I have one set of Law Lock tools already. Guess I bought them off a third party. Thanks for the heads up!
Oof. Even with discount, it's still out of my price range. It's definitely on my wish list!
@@DAdamTrammell Glad to help. They're great tools. Happy picking!
I have the ridgeback set and just wish I had a larger variety of rakes.
otherwise I love it.
This one looks super nice, but I'd destroy .015 picks 😂
would be cool to have both though.
Love law lock tools very cool set.
I can still only get my commando lock open using my 0.04 multipick picks. The thin ones do come in handy.
Awesome review!! Love law lock tools! Definitely on my wish list
I so wished I could afford these. Hopefully down the road. Shit I’m a year into picking and I still don’t trust myself with the regular ones😂. But I have started to use them more. Hopefully Xmas I’ll order a few spares and this set. And his new tension wrench I heard about. Thanks for review. Agree with everything ya said.
Awesome looking set of hooks!
I like law lock tools but I’m not a fan of those super long handles. Nice review as usual. Definitely some picks in there that would make most collections a little more versatile. Always appreciate plenty of tension tools too.
Edit, i really prefer the thinner picks. Only use a few .0020 picks and most of my collection is .0015 so happy to get a few more options in that thickness.
Great review as ever 👏
Love my Ronin set but as you say in the hands of a beginner they might not hold up to bullying 😫
Well done 👍
Great video Ash mate nice set👊👍🇬🇧😎😊
I’m struggling to single pick locks, any tips?
Start with the most simple locks. Master #3 and Brinks. Watch the first few videos on Bosnian Bill's Channel. Buy a repinable pratice lock and remove all but the first two pins. When you get confident add a pin. Keep doing that untill you are good at 6 pins. Then start over with one spool and a standard pin. Then gradually add standard pins and move arthe spool. Then start adding more security pins, but alwayes keep one standard pin in the lock or it will feel really sloppy. Pratice, pratice, pratice, is the last hint.
@@markferguson3365 how do I take pins off the locks?
@@zidanh6058 there are special training locks which have screws so you can remove pins without having to gut them.
I personally only know the one from multi pick.
I can recommend Bosnian Bills videos, too. And I started with some ABUS 85/50 and standard locks.
I started raking them until I got a good false set. Then just gently tried to find the pin that gives counter rotation. Then reset, start again. Until I really got the feeling for the counter rotation.
Also note: really check out videos (LN, Bosnian Bill) or sites where they give examples for good beginner's locks. I got very frustrated with a Burgwächter 77010 (or so) and thought a) I would never get it and b) my pick set was way to big to get to the last pin.
Nope... Now I open it with a hair pin and a bend paperclip.
The lock is just not beginner friendly.
@@zidanh6058 The Trimas TS007 comes with grub screws to help you gut it th-cam.com/video/TId1N8jBWNo/w-d-xo.html
Any thoughts on the new profiles? The Cat's Claw?
I like and use 0.015” picks on a regular basis but manage to do so with about 2-4 picks; a set may be nice but most picks in a set get wasted in jot getting used.
Did they mention at all if they would be releasing individual picks in .015?
All the other picks from LLT can be bought individually, so i'm pretty sure these will show the same way very soon.
If you break a pick, it should be possible to buy a replace...
And of course it should be possible to buy individual picks, if you don't want/need a complete kit!
Who makes a deeper hook?
I have recently taken an interest in lock picking and have enjoyed your channel. Could you please explain what you mean by 'counter rotation'? Thanks
You will experience counter rotation when picking security pins, like spool pins.
Try watching some of LN's great videos on picking security pins...
I will also recommend you to watch videos of Bosnian Bill, Helpfull Lockpicker etc.
There is a lot to learn!
Welcome to lock sport :)
Your voice sounds awfully similar to the dude that does the gas mask videos. 😆
SO MAD THAT I BOUGHT ALL MY LLT TOOLS BEFORE THEY INCREASED THE 3 WELDS..
I only do the 3 spot welds on these picks for extra rigidity. It's not necessary on the others
Do they make locks with an independently turning core for each pin?
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I have only seen one lock with the core split in two...
As i remember, it was a home made challenge lock.
Saw it on Bosnian Bills channel.
@@HairyStuff64 It seems most picking relies on applying continuous turning tension on the single core as the pins are moved. This could be nullified by a core which turns independently with each pin. A multiple, stacked core. Just a core which is sliced into as many segments as there are pins, or perhaps one extra.
I wonder if that would work.
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@@MrDavePed The one i saw, could be picked with a deep tension wrench, as only the half core with pin 4 - 6, was the piece with the actuator.
In your case, i'm afraid i would only have to pick one pin. The most rear one. If of course i used a tension wrench that reminded of a disc detainer tensioner.
But keep trying and you might end up with a great idea :)
@@HairyStuff64 Oh I didn't know there were deep tension wrenches. Thanks for the info !
@@MrDavePed We are many lock sporters, who make our own modified tension tools (and some times also home made picks) all the time... :)
How much?
I wonder if dentists like locksport.
Not enough hooks. Too many rakes.