About the audio: We boosted the audio as much as possible. Any higher and the ambient noise was also getting elevated quite a lot. The recorder is (and has always been) set to auto-compress/limit. It works great 90% of the time, but some cars (911s/flat 6 engines, and BMWs) have a tone that seems to reach the mic more than a V8, or I-4. So the recorder is "hearing" all this high frequency noise, and it turns down its sensitivity, making it hard to hear our voices over the engine. Editing 911 videos is always a nightmare, for this reason.
A shame the video isn't really watchable for some, but what were you guys supposed to do? Call the guy back out and say "hey can we do that video all over again because it was hard to hear you?"
Mic 6" from the guy's mouth: TH-cam CC - [Shnarble gooby, mubby bucket]. Tupperware container under the seat: [The shelling is getting closer now, we should seek cover.] If there is one plus, at 16:09 and 20:14 while you are driving, it just says [Music]. I also could hear you just fine Zack.
Joe Achilles i have this tune on mine and it’s a GAME CHANGER!!! Get it! You’ll never look back and very few cars will be able to get away from you... it feels like it came Stock with 600HP it doesn’t feel hacked or modded it’s just silly powerful
@@deweythomas6339 Every time your Vehicle is hooked up to diagnostic software in the dealership (ISTA) which is every time it goes in, ISTA sends back FASTA data to Central servers for every module. Only Regional engineers and higher can decode this data dump but some of the parameters can be read out from the car directly using a old software called Tool32. To give you an idea for the seat module there's a lifetime counter for every time you make a seat adjustment for every single axis, DCT shows the number of times each gear has been engaged over the life of the car, max temps, times over temp etc. this is just to give you an idea just how detailed information BMW has on your car, you're fooling yourself if you think BMW can't see the max boost and may other telltale signs the car is tuned. This data would only be reviewed by a regional engineer if they had to sign off on a large warranty repair, but it's up there in the cloud. ANY FLASH TUNE is silly easy to detect, now as long as you don't go blowing up a motor and need a warranty repair sign-off you'll be fine. They may have gotten CARB certified which means it's Cali legal but that does not mean BMW is ok with it or willing to warranty it.
BMW does not honor any aftermarket tune warranty’s. If a tuning shop offers a warranty, it’s through themselves (ie Dinan) but has nothing to do with BMW.
I have remap my M2C to 550hp. And put lots of carbon parts, hood, trunk, fender. Also light weight wheels and PC 2 tire. Man I love how it runs on track. Balance and handling just perfect.
I have this tune on my M2C and it’s absolutely fantastic... more than just an engine remap - the “drift angle threshold” for example has been changed (increased) the ABS - EDIff - Traction control etc have all been remapped to accommodate the added power... Noelle Performance FTW!
Robert Aydelott let’s talk ! I spent the day kicking ass and taking names in the mtns today, My buddies F80 making 540whp gets absolutely WAXED by the noelle M2C - the diff software / MDM mode is cinematic- i have 6 BMWs and it’s def my fave sports car if not car period - it’s hard to beat the Dinan Signature II MINT e39 M5 that I have as an overall passenger car but it’s hard to beat the Noelle M2C with ANYTHING PERIOD - if you’re thinking about it - stop thinking and do it - Franz Hutzu - the writer of this remap is a fn genius - ABS was recalibrated after the car in the video was taken on laguna as I understand and when I took mine in for the map Franz was finishing the revision for the drift angle and MDM DSC settings etc so I had to wait a day or two
I have this tune now on my M3 comp and it is insanely fast. I took a test ride in my local shop/tuner M2C that had this tune on his car and I said "take my money" after the test-drive.
@@duffydon1741 I'm afraid I can't agree with you on that "stale beast" comment. Some of us with supercharged, and track modified E92 M3s take great offense to such a comment. My buddy, who owns a modified M2 won't even race in the same category as us E92 M3 guys at VIR. His modified M2 competition is humbled at Oak Tree and the upper esses.
The argument goes back to the 70 Camaro vs 70 Trans Am. The TA had softer springs and stiffer bars the Camaro had the opposite and most people thought the TA was better for the street.
owned and F80 and was thinking about an M2 Comp. Earlier this year I got to drive an M2 comp and M5 comp and then the new M340i. I was favoring the M2 right until I pushed the M340 a bit and thought for a daily I would definitely take it over the others. M2 was very tail happy and the back felt like it wanted to come out every time I had the wheel turned a bit.
Unwatchable. As many comments have stated you need to gear up and fix the mic situation damn it was annoying. I was really looking forward to hearing the audio from this car.
I've wanted an M2 since it came out then went and had kids 🙄. Went to a dealer recently whose inventory said they had one cuz I just needed to drive it. They didn't have it but wouldn't let me leave without driving something so the perfect 10 blond pulled out the M4 Competition for us to take out. She was the highlight of the drive. The car was a very fast dead fish. Now I must drive this car.
No to the error codes due to software instead of cheater boxes. Will not trigger warranty or emissions codes and does not disable any safety systems. Keeps full diagnostics.
@@deweythomas6339 The Noelle Performance tune had no error codes or issues. The guy that founded Noelle was the chief engineer for Alpina for a while, so he is not a man that accepts error codes due to tunes. ZK
The optional big brakes on the BMW M2 Competition is so much better than the stock brakes. I had an M2 which I tracked 6 times before I sold it and bought and M2 competition. The M2 competition big brakes are so much better. Not just in terms of performance, but in pedal feel. The 4 pots on the old car was a lot more grabby directly, the 6pots have more initial travel and is not as grabby, you need to push the pedal harder. It's a lot better for daily driving.
MODS: Charge Air cooler Coil over sleeve kit Monoball bushings in front Toe links in back Added to description. I uploaded this at 2am last night and wasnt thinking.
Let’s face it, the current M2 Competition is the best true “M car” BMW makes. It’s a rockstar. I dumped a Porsche 911 C4S for the new M2C and moved away from the Porsche 992 that is a mess and a far cry from what a proper 911 once was.
Every computer box with torque vectoring / management or /and unbeatable stability management feels like someone else is in control of the car (especially Z-axis rotation / angular acceleration). Most car companies in the business of making sports car are after lap times rather than enjoyment. And those two things have parted ways.
Does somebody(or @TheSmokingTire) know what exact mods did he install? like what coil overs exactly etc.... all Dinan right? And how corner balanced and aligned is it.
What do you think the times are in terms of speed are now after all the modifications? Like what would 0-60 be, or quarter miles from stock to after tune?
Beautiful car and tasteful mods, congrats... but I can't trust a guy claiming 600 M2C horsepower with only a pump gas tune and charge cooler smh... and turbo cars don't gain anything from an exhaust... really.. turbos don't dampen the sound on a factory turbo engine... it sounds how it sounds... that's sometimes a factor when adding a turbo to a factory N/A car... full exhaust on an s55 ABSOLUTELY changes the pitch and decibel level... This guy
Awesome ride... One question I have in mind: is the M2 OG stiffer ride than the M2C when looking at the OOTB settings (no button pressed, no tuning, no Mod just enter the car and drive in normal conditions, a.k.a Comfort mode)
Hi, I am thinking to put KW coilover in my M2C. Could you give me some advise which KW should I use? V3, v4 or clubsport? And do I need to install other component like sway bar, toe link etc like your to make better handling.
Damn. That was one of the more exciting TST drives to watch. Long form FTW with this one. Damn. Marc is one chill dude and I love his mentality of compliant / well damped suspension. I have test driven some *stiff* modern enthusiast cars w/in the past few years and wondered what numbers do I need to know in order to correctly swap out the suspension for a better over-the-road experience (*) while retaining ~75% of the handling. (*) -- where my roads are winter ravaged mid-atlantic shit shows intermixed with the occasional newly paved stretch.
Notice how he completely skips the E36 when he talks about driving feel. Common attitude among the BMW oldtimers. Not sure if it's a S50B30US thing and being bitter about getting a lesser engine compared to the real //M engine like we got instead of a stroked M50 with pretty valvecovers. E36 is the most fun of the 3, perfect middleground between the old and the new. The build quality isn't great tho, and the interior falls apart.
Funnily enough, I prefer the E36 over almost any other BMW. The newer ones feel far heavier and sluggish, and older ones are.. Well, products of their time.
@@Leonidae E30's are cool, love the 80's boxey look. They drive great as well for an 80's car, arguebly one of the best driving cars from the 80's and they hold up today, but still feel old unless you put a ton of money into your suspension setup. I've never driven an E30 M3 and probably never will, so can't argue on those. Short wheelbase as well . E46's are great dailydrivers, more comfortable but in my opinion less fun as a toy. That's why E36 is the best middelground.
OK here's the thing... I don't complain about Matt's ball powder or baldness ads at the start of the video because i can skip them but I'm 7 min in and I've had 3 inline ads already So he tuned it, charge cooler, softer coilover, stiffer bars, bushings etc? Maybe I was missing something but that "burble" at 21:16 for example sounded like a loose plastic bit flapping in the wind.
Clifford Bradford I think and laugh to myself about his ball powder all the time. This is the most boring m2 comp video of all time and I usually like Zack’s videos.
I couldn't hear the exhaust pops until the end of the video, in M2 mode. It's loud, but there's so much sound deadening in the car, it was hard to even notice over the road noise. ZK
M cars generally speaking, always needed a spiff on the brakes. Usually that means just track pads and maybe steel braided brake lines (from frame to hub). For me personally, the six pot calipers are way too heavy. Otherwise, nice car. I bet it surprises a lot of other car/drivers on the road!
@@zackklapman3569 i do too which is why i got it and the dct is great but i still find myself shifting manually most of the time as i think the dct was set up more for track driving than town driving, never wants to up shift lol. Im fortunate enough to have an s2000 as a toy and but find myself commuting in it a lot because i enjoy having a clutch pedal.. even tho the s2k is miles slower and probably the 'worst' commuter car ive driven lol
@@jasonnav9969 BMW doesn't do that anyone. Dinan provides a 3rd party limited warranty that matches the remainder of your factory warranty. BMW will not cover any damage caused by Dinan.
I have a question, in regards to the cars stiffness, dont you want a stiffer car when your driving it aggressively and trying to go as fast as possible?
Not necessarily super stiff because on a bumpy surface on really tough suspension you will be losing traction more often making your lap times slower. All you want is for your car to be planted properly so all four of your wheels are making contact with the ground at all times
Thanks for your video !! Yea so many cars these days have stif suspension like my partner's Kia Cerato Sport.. but cars like the Fiesta ST do actually need it and do actually benifet from it because of front wheel drive (under steer) and to get the front to stick better and have better turn in. But it's not the direct answer to handling for all cars IMO.
This comment has been brought to you by the type of dude that thinks you and your car immediatly die if you go over 4000 rpm for more than 3 seconds because thunder and lighting very very frightning, watch out the rpm Police is watching better shift up
@@MrWhitePerson nah, just someone annoyed by an engine crying for relief. I love when greenhands run up to the mic to showcase their ignorance. If you can't drive, more specifically a manual, and know nothing about cars, pls don't comment. Both of you need to stick with automatics. Fyi...No engine loves being driven at high rpm for an extended periods. It creates excessive heat, which thins out the oils and kills viscosity. Lower viscosity increases the chances of engine damage due to friction.
I think he was mostly just talking about the noise, but I agree. I kind of eye rolled when he said that too. Open exhaust on a turbo car has SUBSTANTIAL gains in all aspects.
TheSmokingTire ah they fooled me with the black accents! Yeah, I’ll have to wait and see what that owner used when the tst video comes out but the race chip tune seems pretty reasonable.
About the audio: We boosted the audio as much as possible. Any higher and the ambient noise was also getting elevated quite a lot. The recorder is (and has always been) set to auto-compress/limit. It works great 90% of the time, but some cars (911s/flat 6 engines, and BMWs) have a tone that seems to reach the mic more than a V8, or I-4. So the recorder is "hearing" all this high frequency noise, and it turns down its sensitivity, making it hard to hear our voices over the engine. Editing 911 videos is always a nightmare, for this reason.
The things flapping around in the back was a little annoying too, I know these aren’t your cars tho. Just fyi. Also great job
A shame the video isn't really watchable for some, but what were you guys supposed to do? Call the guy back out and say "hey can we do that video all over again because it was hard to hear you?"
@Tuco Salamanca a lot of people in the comments apparently, lol
Sounds like a powered mic in the trunk
Mic 6" from the guy's mouth: TH-cam CC - [Shnarble gooby, mubby bucket]. Tupperware container under the seat: [The shelling is getting closer now, we should seek cover.]
If there is one plus, at 16:09 and 20:14 while you are driving, it just says [Music]. I also could hear you just fine Zack.
What a machine, can't imagine mine with 600bhp!!! Awesome
Joe Achilles Imagine your car with roughly 1.5X the power it has now....Boom, you’ve imagined it! 🤣
Mr. Achilles in the house!!! Nice!
Big Joe, good to see you.
Get it done
Joe Achilles i have this tune on mine and it’s a GAME CHANGER!!! Get it! You’ll never look back and very few cars will be able to get away from you... it feels like it came
Stock with 600HP it doesn’t feel hacked or modded it’s just silly powerful
The Noelle Performance Software on that car does not void warranty and is emission legal. What a game changer for Marc and the M2 Comp.
Yes it does. FASTA data will clearly show it. Any major warranty claim and your screwed. BMW just doesn't say anything unless a claim comes up
My local BMW dealer says it’s the only software that won’t void warranty.
@@deweythomas6339 Every time your Vehicle is hooked up to diagnostic software in the dealership (ISTA) which is every time it goes in, ISTA sends back FASTA data to Central servers for every module. Only Regional engineers and higher can decode this data dump but some of the parameters can be read out from the car directly using a old software called Tool32. To give you an idea for the seat module there's a lifetime counter for every time you make a seat adjustment for every single axis, DCT shows the number of times each gear has been engaged over the life of the car, max temps, times over temp etc. this is just to give you an idea just how detailed information BMW has on your car, you're fooling yourself if you think BMW can't see the max boost and may other telltale signs the car is tuned. This data would only be reviewed by a regional engineer if they had to sign off on a large warranty repair, but it's up there in the cloud. ANY FLASH TUNE is silly easy to detect, now as long as you don't go blowing up a motor and need a warranty repair sign-off you'll be fine. They may have gotten CARB certified which means it's Cali legal but that does not mean BMW is ok with it or willing to warranty it.
Interesting. In 5 years I’ve never had an issue with my M5 at the dealer. I’ll never understand how it works. Cool info. Do you have a Noelle package?
BMW does not honor any aftermarket tune warranty’s. If a tuning shop offers a warranty, it’s through themselves (ie Dinan) but has nothing to do with BMW.
I have remap my M2C to 550hp. And put lots of carbon parts, hood, trunk, fender. Also light weight wheels and PC 2 tire. Man I love how it runs on track. Balance and handling just perfect.
For the love of God, fucking shift! The transmission has more than 2 gears!
I have this tune on my M2C and it’s absolutely fantastic... more than just an engine remap - the “drift angle threshold” for example has been changed (increased) the ABS - EDIff - Traction control etc have all been remapped to accommodate the added power... Noelle Performance FTW!
I would love to talk to you more about yours. I have the car and am seriously considering the tune, but there isn’t much info about it online.
Robert Aydelott let’s talk ! I spent the day kicking ass and taking names in the mtns today, My buddies F80 making 540whp gets absolutely WAXED by the noelle M2C - the diff software / MDM mode is cinematic- i have 6 BMWs and it’s def my fave sports car if not car period - it’s hard to beat the Dinan Signature II MINT e39 M5 that I have as an overall passenger car but it’s hard to beat the Noelle M2C with ANYTHING PERIOD - if you’re thinking about it - stop thinking and do it - Franz Hutzu - the writer of this remap is a fn genius - ABS was recalibrated after the car in the video was taken on laguna as I understand and when I took mine in for the map Franz was finishing the revision for the drift angle and MDM DSC settings etc so I had to wait a day or two
I've got a cheap 228i and it drives really nice, think the 2 series platforms great
Throw a tune on it and downpipe and really wakes it up
@@jakewilliamson5144 agreed you'll be faster than a 235
Good car. I remember Matt drove one & he liked it
@@IReahpZz no way in hell. No turbos
@@exigm the new 228 is a 2. 0 turbo lol so is the 2013+
Marc Norris has been around for a bit and is one of the nicest guys in the Los Angeles BMW community.
Bringing my car to him tomorrow. ZK
How about more diversity?
@@chamade166 how about less stupid comments?
I have this tune now on my M3 comp and it is insanely fast. I took a test ride in my local shop/tuner M2C that had this tune on his car and I said "take my money" after the test-drive.
My very first car was a Focus ZX3 and i did soft springs/shocks with the biggest anti-roll bars i could find and it was amazing.
If there was such a thing as a perfect car,..this is it. Style, quality, power. That interior begs you to get in!
The video didn't do this color justice but it was amazing. Flat grey/blue in the shade, then a light purple sparkle when the sun hit it.
It’s a Rockstar.
This is truly a beast of its kind
Just met this dude, Friendly chap, really knows his stuff.
I wish I could crawl in the video and shift. That was brutal
Mark is a wealth of experience and BMW knowledge. He owns my local indy shop and they do awesome work. No doubt this thing was babied
this owner knows his stuff. Sounds like a great dude
I am sure Scotty Kilmer is loving this video.
Marc is an absolute legend. Awesome video, if I didnt have my 2008 E92 m3 I'd absolutely get a M2
This car is better than the E series M cars, by all means, get the M2 and forget that stale beast...
@@duffydon1741 I'm afraid I can't agree with you on that "stale beast" comment. Some of us with supercharged, and track modified E92 M3s take great offense to such a comment. My buddy, who owns a modified M2 won't even race in the same category as us E92 M3 guys at VIR. His modified M2 competition is humbled at Oak Tree and the upper esses.
@@craigg8185 then that modified m2 is modified wrong 💀
Such a legend for getting the manual
Paired with a manual transmission. Perfect choice.
definitely.
a cvt is more efficient.
@sanju2 theyre amazing to drive
@@actontreadway1168 less fun
@@MaxSpeedMike the efficiency is intoxicating.
Have you guys ever considered omitting the always super-awkward handshake at the beginning?
yes probably should especially for avoiding the corona virus now ;)
Moron
@@ygma no one cares about fucking stupid covid
Because fist bumps are so much better? pfffft
Good choice going for the manual. Makes it more fun
The argument goes back to the 70 Camaro vs 70 Trans Am. The TA had softer springs and stiffer bars the Camaro had the opposite and most people thought the TA was better for the street.
Michael Howatt
Bra, it’s 2019
600 without downpipes 🤔 . What has he done to that car
its bullshit
its bullshit
the tuner claims 600hp with their 93 octane tune for $2499
www.noelleperformance.com/m-series/
@@barfly246 c
yeah i don't buy it. the stock DPs on every BMW are absurdly restrictive.
I drive the piss out of mine and it just takes it. Love this car. Keeping it for as long as possible.
Did u replace your crank hub? I heard there is problems with the crankhub?
@@markwhite6719 clearly you don't own one
@@markwhite6719 n55 not s55
Yes! You read that right. 600HP!
owned and F80 and was thinking about an M2 Comp. Earlier this year I got to drive an M2 comp and M5 comp and then the new M340i. I was favoring the M2 right until I pushed the M340 a bit and thought for a daily I would definitely take it over the others. M2 was very tail happy and the back felt like it wanted to come out every time I had the wheel turned a bit.
Paola Sanchez interesting because I had the 340 and i thought that it sucked. The m4 that I have now feels like an entirely different league.
Sergei Naumenko you drove the new G20 M340? I’d do the M4 in the track but on the street the new M340 is everything as good and then some
What kind of suspension was being used? Just lowering springs? Also did you have to do crank hub fix? Or is this not a concern? Great Car
To much talk, not enough wide open throttle pulls.... blehh... still love the vids.
Man..the engine/exhaust note sounds so much like a Porsche!!!
Unwatchable. As many comments have stated you need to gear up and fix the mic situation damn it was annoying. I was really looking forward to hearing the audio from this car.
Chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnge uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
Evan Eastwood bro it’s annoying tf outta me
Yes it was so annoying
Very interested in the exact suspension setup. Sways and springs seem like a must.
Dude! Up shift please. It was painful to hear the car in that awkward, non accelerating mid RPMs.
You have to battle the guy below that told me I was in 3rd and should have sat in 2nd.
Its so much torque no need to down shift
Jackson Tan I get that but he was just chilling in high revs, it’s better to go through the gears rather then holding high revs
@@KEYEZ410 why? That's the pt of high torque car. So no need to keep shifting I had a s2k. Had to shift all the time cause no torque
He just must drive like this cause I was hearing the same thing as well even in the Cadillac video
Crank hub is crying 😢
I've wanted an M2 since it came out then went and had kids 🙄. Went to a dealer recently whose inventory said they had one cuz I just needed to drive it. They didn't have it but wouldn't let me leave without driving something so the perfect 10 blond pulled out the M4 Competition for us to take out. She was the highlight of the drive. The car was a very fast dead fish. Now I must drive this car.
16:02 somebody had a change of underwear
My Summer Camp is on that Road 😀 Such a lovely road to drive on but if you get it wrong....
Truly the king of error code generators.
😂
Are they really that bad?
No to the error codes due to software instead of cheater boxes. Will not trigger warranty or emissions codes and does not disable any safety systems. Keeps full diagnostics.
@@deweythomas6339 The Noelle Performance tune had no error codes or issues. The guy that founded Noelle was the chief engineer for Alpina for a while, so he is not a man that accepts error codes due to tunes. ZK
Didnt know Bruce Willis is into cars.
The optional big brakes on the BMW M2 Competition is so much better than the stock brakes.
I had an M2 which I tracked 6 times before I sold it and bought and M2 competition.
The M2 competition big brakes are so much better. Not just in terms of performance, but in pedal feel. The 4 pots on the old car was a lot more grabby directly, the 6pots have more initial travel and is not as grabby, you need to push the pedal harder. It's a lot better for daily driving.
Would be nice if you wrote the mods that have been done in the car.
Probs downpipes and e85 or 91 and meth
I watched the whole damn video waiting for the mods.
Stock intake and exhaust except charge pipe. FullHe said it all in the vid.
MODS:
Charge Air cooler
Coil over sleeve kit
Monoball bushings in front
Toe links in back
Added to description. I uploaded this at 2am last night and wasnt thinking.
Dewey Thomas 600 crank or wheel??
Let’s face it, the current M2 Competition is the best true “M car” BMW makes. It’s a rockstar. I dumped a Porsche 911 C4S for the new M2C and moved away from the Porsche 992 that is a mess and a far cry from what a proper 911 once was.
Every computer box with torque vectoring / management or /and unbeatable stability management feels like someone else is in control of the car (especially Z-axis rotation / angular acceleration). Most car companies in the business of making sports car are after lap times rather than enjoyment. And those two things have parted ways.
Didn't know John Malkovich knew so much about BMWs. Neat.
What’s been done to the exhaust? Sounds much better than a stock M2 comp/M3/M4
Well I guess this is why I woke up at five in the morning, better than coffee☕️
Best compliment ever. ZK
TheSmokingTire
🎯🐺❣️
Does somebody(or @TheSmokingTire) know what exact mods did he install? like what coil overs exactly etc.... all Dinan right?
And how corner balanced and aligned is it.
What do you think the times are in terms of speed are now after all the modifications? Like what would 0-60 be, or quarter miles from stock to after tune?
Beautiful car and tasteful mods, congrats... but I can't trust a guy claiming 600 M2C horsepower with only a pump gas tune and charge cooler smh... and turbo cars don't gain anything from an exhaust... really.. turbos don't dampen the sound on a factory turbo engine... it sounds how it sounds... that's sometimes a factor when adding a turbo to a factory N/A car... full exhaust on an s55 ABSOLUTELY changes the pitch and decibel level... This guy
its putting downs 600 lol dont u worry.
Awesome ride... One question I have in mind: is the M2 OG stiffer ride than the M2C when looking at the OOTB settings (no button pressed, no tuning, no Mod just enter the car and drive in normal conditions, a.k.a Comfort mode)
Hi, I am thinking to put KW coilover in my M2C. Could you give me some advise which KW should I use? V3, v4 or clubsport? And do I need to install other component like sway bar, toe link etc like your to make better handling.
Hey, I would recommend checking a forum like this.
f87.bimmerpost.com/
@@NS416 ok. Thank you very much.
Damn. That was one of the more exciting TST drives to watch. Long form FTW with this one. Damn.
Marc is one chill dude and I love his mentality of compliant / well damped suspension. I have test driven some *stiff* modern enthusiast cars w/in the past few years and wondered what numbers do I need to know in order to correctly swap out the suspension for a better over-the-road experience (*) while retaining ~75% of the handling.
(*) -- where my roads are winter ravaged mid-atlantic shit shows intermixed with the occasional newly paved stretch.
how much he put into the build?
Get that wagon on the show
Not bad. What a way to introduce this video
... "this car is 600hp."
Great review men!!!!!!!!!
Ayyyy Mark! Showing up my F22! I got something for you now though ;)
I am in third gear (all the time)
Old Tupperware killed me lmao 🤣
Notice how he completely skips the E36 when he talks about driving feel. Common attitude among the BMW oldtimers. Not sure if it's a S50B30US thing and being bitter about getting a lesser engine compared to the real //M engine like we got instead of a stroked M50 with pretty valvecovers. E36 is the most fun of the 3, perfect middleground between the old and the new. The build quality isn't great tho, and the interior falls apart.
The interior falls apart in comical fashion, but they are truly delightfully driving cars. I would love to own an E36 one day.
Funnily enough, I prefer the E36 over almost any other BMW. The newer ones feel far heavier and sluggish, and older ones are.. Well, products of their time.
@@Leonidae E30's are cool, love the 80's boxey look. They drive great as well for an 80's car, arguebly one of the best driving cars from the 80's and they hold up today, but still feel old unless you put a ton of money into your suspension setup. I've never driven an E30 M3 and probably never will, so can't argue on those. Short wheelbase as well . E46's are great dailydrivers, more comfortable but in my opinion less fun as a toy. That's why E36 is the best middelground.
my fav bmw of all! great video!
any crunk hub upgrade ??
Does the video go into the detail of suspension parts?
OK here's the thing... I don't complain about Matt's ball powder or baldness ads at the start of the video because i can skip them but I'm 7 min in and I've had 3 inline ads already
So he tuned it, charge cooler, softer coilover, stiffer bars, bushings etc?
Maybe I was missing something but that "burble" at 21:16 for example sounded like a loose plastic bit flapping in the wind.
Clifford Bradford I think and laugh to myself about his ball powder all the time. This is the most boring m2 comp video of all time and I usually like Zack’s videos.
Clifford Bradford would you prefer to support the channel by donating or you can purchase TH-cam premium version.
That's too many ads. Placed by TH-cam. i'll adjust them.
I couldn't hear the exhaust pops until the end of the video, in M2 mode. It's loud, but there's so much sound deadening in the car, it was hard to even notice over the road noise. ZK
Agree on compliance being neglected these days. Rev rev rev lol there are other gears!
Always the best content, I learn soooooooooooo much from your channel .
Love the M2, but please Zach, shift, every one of these with you driving is just you in one gear with both hands tightly around the wheel 😅
M cars generally speaking, always needed a spiff on the brakes. Usually that means just track pads and maybe steel braided brake lines (from frame to hub). For me personally, the six pot calipers are way too heavy. Otherwise, nice car. I bet it surprises a lot of other car/drivers on the road!
An intercooler adds 150+ hp?
I think i regret getting the dct
Depends on your daily commute. The DCT is good too, and nice if you live in traffic hell like I do.
@@zackklapman3569 i do too which is why i got it and the dct is great but i still find myself shifting manually most of the time as i think the dct was set up more for track driving than town driving, never wants to up shift lol. Im fortunate enough to have an s2000 as a toy and but find myself commuting in it a lot because i enjoy having a clutch pedal.. even tho the s2k is miles slower and probably the 'worst' commuter car ive driven lol
I drive a manual but can only have fun on a weekend morning before a ton of people get on the road (SF Bay). Might sell and go auto
Did you say x6m with Dinan springs? I’m interested. Gad damn stock suspension is brutally stiff.
I thought the shock valving was a little abrupt for the street. It would be sweet on track, though.
Nice. If I wasn’t worried about my warranty I’d mod my m2.
Carbahn (Steve Dinan's company) matches the factory warranty, even at stage 2.
BMW gives warranty for Dinan factory parts. Just like brabus and merc.
Yup. You pay for that. I wonder how that affects resale
@@jasonnav9969 BMW doesn't do that anyone. Dinan provides a 3rd party limited warranty that matches the remainder of your factory warranty. BMW will not cover any damage caused by Dinan.
I have a question, in regards to the cars stiffness, dont you want a stiffer car when your driving it aggressively and trying to go as fast as possible?
Not necessarily super stiff because on a bumpy surface on really tough suspension you will be losing traction more often making your lap times slower. All you want is for your car to be planted properly so all four of your wheels are making contact with the ground at all times
The nice thing about manual is change gears, just saying...
Get that man a mic!
He had one, he's just soft spoken.
TheSmokingTire if you end up taking your own BMW to his shop it would be a great mini-series
What a car. I can't wait to drive one and possibly own it.
Thanks for your video !!
Yea so many cars these days have stif suspension like my partner's Kia Cerato Sport.. but cars like the Fiesta ST do actually need it and do actually benifet from it because of front wheel drive (under steer) and to get the front to stick better and have better turn in. But it's not the direct answer to handling for all cars IMO.
Dam dude, change the freaking gear pls....geez!
Heis not chaging because he isn't entirely comfortable with a stick
This comment has been brought to you by the type of dude that thinks you and your car immediatly die if you go over 4000 rpm for more than 3 seconds because thunder and lighting very very frightning, watch out the rpm Police is watching better shift up
The engine redlines at 7500rpm...
@@MrWhitePerson nah, just someone annoyed by an engine crying for relief. I love when greenhands run up to the mic to showcase their ignorance. If you can't drive, more specifically a manual, and know nothing about cars, pls don't comment. Both of you need to stick with automatics.
Fyi...No engine loves being driven at high rpm for an extended periods. It creates excessive heat, which thins out the oils and kills viscosity. Lower viscosity increases the chances of engine damage due to friction.
@@PaulSvk84 your point is?
That road is not fair for a 600HP M2!!
Waited 22 minutes for you to floor the damn car and doesn't seem like you ever did.
He's probably scared of it.....
Isn't Marc worried about the crank hub slipping with a tune like that? That's the only reason I haven't tuned mine
E9x M3: what am I to you guys??
Heavy but great.
@@TheSmokingTire a stock m2 comp is heavier and and has less power from factory
Jr_35 I’ve raced a e92 m3 in my M2 comp and I embarrassed it.
@@TheSpragz okay? Do you want a prize?
Jr_35 just proving that power to weight isn’t everything.
You know whats fun about manual cars? You do the shifting, maybe you should try it lol
Dude was in 3rd for a quarter of the video
Talking bout suspensions - yeh it got stiffer
Me- dang u guys must of tracked every car huh
I don’t believe I’ve seen a recent ad where they still claim “The Ultimate Driving Machine”. Can others confirm?
Didn’t get above 5.5k rpm or 50% throttle…sweet 🤨
“Take me to the Piggly Wiggly Hoke!”
Awesome already called noelle
Please tell me that Matt Farah is the voice on the Crown and Caliber youtube ads.... otherwise I am going insane.....
He is.
"it's a turbo car it's not like it's going to benefit from an exhaust"... This guy is such a poser 😂
I think he was mostly just talking about the noise, but I agree. I kind of eye rolled when he said that too. Open exhaust on a turbo car has SUBSTANTIAL gains in all aspects.
On a race track stiff is always better for a street car you want balance
Depends on the track.
I thought the owner was Bruce Willis. LOL
wish you could hear his commentary without cranking the volume all the way up
I boosted the volume as much as I could without boosting the sound of the car/road noise too. It was a hard thing to balance. Apologies. ZK
Don’t know if it’s my headphones but it sounds like this guy was revving the shit out of that BMW
Dosent it automatically rev match for you?
I am not sure it is better as a car with the power. Kind of changes what it is.
Looking forward to seeing zack have a go in that M5 comp in the background. My parents just picked one up.
Twas a regular M5, not a comp. But 850HP. 850. From a tune. GET THEM A TUNE FOR XMAS.
TheSmokingTire ah they fooled me with the black accents! Yeah, I’ll have to wait and see what that owner used when the tst video comes out but the race chip tune seems pretty reasonable.
@@lexus_offroad_adventures whatever you do don't put a race chip on that car. Or any car.
AllCategoryChannel really? Did you have a bad experience? Please do tell
gawd this is a dream car for me
Far below 600
agreed ,this shit is stock besides tune for crying out loud lmfao
What's the 0-60 and quarter mile time?