Pantheon's Rework: The MANLIEST Rework In League of Legends
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- Today's episode of the Rework Retrospective series features one of my favorite reworks of all time! Let's talk about Pantheon: The Unbreakable Spear
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What's your favorite Pantheon Quote? My two are, "The people cry out for strength that is already theirs!" and "After every defeat, I ran around the mountain until even shame could not keep up!"
''The heavens to not fear me because I am a God, they fear me because I am a man.''
Man that just hits.
"Fight, because you must!"
"Because we fall, the climb must be our destination." Tell that to ranked players.
"Because we fall, the climb must be our destination" and "The art of war is hearing your heart beating, knowing you are alive!". I am a spanish speaker and oh boy his VA is so good in south america
Aatrox fought a god but now he faces a man!
such badassery
Pantheon: "The god died. The man lives."
Simple words but powerful ones
HERESY!.
Gets ruined by a stupid black mist
Atreus' will is really strong. Viego brought back and mind-controlled the dead Aspect, the only one capable of besting Atreus' will. Afterwards chad got depressed that the Aspect he hated not only seized control of his body once, he failed to overcome its control the second time.
Actually it was the aspect that got ruined not Aetrus
Vars: "Any property that negates the pressure of a tower infriges on game balance"
Also Vars: perfectly desinged: volibear
I maen yah
Voli's tower immunity is a part of his ult that is on a sizable CD. Pantheon's was on his E which is on a considerably shorter CD and could be empowered to block up to three shots in 2.5 seconds. I feel like the two aren't comparable in this scenario.
@@thatcanadiannorman8690 let me have my joke
@@alex2005z Fair enough haha.
@@thatcanadiannorman8690 Panth E is/was on a 22 second Cooldown. That's longer than a lux ult! :^)
Mantheon has probably the coolest lore story: man who claimed targon was possessed by a god and had zero control of his body/mind for years. Aatrox killed the aspect controlling him and when he regained consciousness he decided it was time to take revenge on the other gods for using mortals like toys
Uh, you should be: "man who climbed mount Targon ..."
@@mr.bluefox3511 He claimed it, too. Pantheon OWNED the mountain while the god still lived.
forgot to mention that he spitted on Aatrox’s face the moment he regained his control
One thing i love about new pantheon is his accent. He is supposed to be a greek warrior and as a greek person i can say that his accent is exactly the way greeks speak english. I dont think they could have made it any better
he's not really supposed to be a greeek warrior tho. He's inspired by it obv but in the league universe greece doesn't exist and he's not a greek warrior he's a pantheon of mount targon.
@@JinchurikiDemon Inspired is a huge understatement, aside from all the visual cues to Ancient Greece and Sparta, even his name Atreus is greek, his design means on resembling a greek warrior, even if he isn’t “greek”
@@JinchurikiDemon yeah i mean that he is inspired i dont mean that he is from greece in runeterra somehow
@@PointlessOccurence yeah, inspired
@@JinchurikiDemon yeah but he is supposed to resemble or be a Greek warrior
If this video doesn’t have Pantheon’s theme blasting in my ears for ten minutes straight then I’m sorry it just isn’t manly enough
When new Pantheon (a.k.a. MANtheon) speaks, he has this distinct Greek accent , that makes me feel right at home
I mean literally, it's like hearing my father trying to converse in English, uncanny
Αλάνι μου
Thats cuz pantheon is the ULTIMATE BaLoRian😌
Thank you for sharing this, very touching
I am pretty sure his english voice actor is Greek, thats why he is able to do the accent so well
Yup, this is why voice actor representation matters.
As an old Pantheon player from Brazil, the saddest part of Pantheon's rework is that the brazilian baker Pantheon is no longer called *Pãotheon*
:(
Same, still wondering why they changed it to TORTHEON
wait what? they removed the play on words?
@@ereder1476 they changed, before the play was with "pão"(bread) now it is with "torta"(pie)
I did not understand why riot did that, why????
Besides his gameplay, they nailed his thematic elements. What used to be a generic spartan dude is now the manliest champion on the rift, and I find it very hard to stop myself from screaming out the melody of his theme song as I'm casting Grand Starfall into 5 people and inting in norms.
Playing him makes you write in the team chat in all caps.
@@Miraihi FIGHT, BECAUSE YOU MUST!
I wasn't expecting the Pantheon voice line section. When he got released onto their card game, his theme fit so well with the card showcase trailer they do. 10/10, Would play the celestial spartan again
He is no longer celestial he ascended that. He's no longer pantheon he is MANTHEON
@@noxythegreat facts
As the Gods say: *Pantheon is the manliest man of any man in existence*
What about Braum?
@@moltrescompany im feeling a deja vu here
_"In battle, we are reborn!!"_
Perfectly delivered line for a perfectly reworked champion.
In battle, we are reborn
-10 LP
I freaking love Pantheon. Althoug I think it would be cool if his kit was a bit more about sustained fights than bursting the enemy down, that would be way much more fitting. But at least s11 gave him some really good build variations and you can now even build him a bit more like a fighter.
true, but that could be changed with numbers instead of a design problem.
@@nightharvester6567 His lore is about him getting beaten but always getting back up again and pressing forward. Fighting until his last breath leaves him. That's what makes Atreus admirable. That's why he should be able to at least be more sustain and less about burst.
i heckin love point and click dashes!!1
@@mewjelter4208 Yeah me too!
build blade of the ruined king, then eclipse, the essence and then death dance using PTA. You can just keep killing then, his empowered w is MUCH stronger than people give it credit.a single skill that can instantly prock PTA, Botr, eclipse, bonus damange pro essence AND still crit. People just melt.
I kinda wish riot made pantheon a champ who was all about fighting to the death instead of doing short bursty combos like an assassin, or simply being relegated to support. Also it would be cool if he had a sort of mechanic that told his story in game, maybe at a certain point he loses his divine weapons in favor of a more mortal aesthetic, but is still a strong champion since his whole thing is never giving up and always coming out on top of the many God-like beings in league.
That's a cool though, I disagree with the scaling like Kayle thing though. Pantheon is a man, nothing more and nothing less. Making him change as he levels would take away from that idea imo.
@@Skiringen agreed. Pantheon cowering until be becomes godlike is antithesis to what his theme is.
But the fight to the death mechanic is perfect for him. Like a Jarvan Ult.
He should be more tanky with less hp he has.
The thing is riot planned to have him fight in a way but in many cases items and all that affect how a character end being played, just like league of iceborn gauntlet fizz and ekko until they were force to nerf ekko so he healed base on AP rather than just heals (he was an insane tank that you couldn't kill)
His support playstyle is the support curse, any champion that have some form of ulity of good base damage but isn't doing so well in other lane ends support (like annie, Morgana lux zyra..)
Something like Legion commander's ult from DOTA would be nice
From Pantheon being cheap copy of Spartan, to Spartan being cheap copy of Pantheon.
Pantheon is literally my morning workout motivation. He unironically is the only thing tethering me to League. He's the man I, and I'm sure many others, strive to be.
LIFE WAS ALWAYS A WAR!
He's like Zyzz but from LoL
I wish every rework was like this one. would have loved to see riot update aatrox like they did pantheon
Nunu, Fiddle, Mordekaiser, Akali, Volibear etc. All of this reworks are on par or even better than Pantheon's. Riot very rarely miss the mark with these.
@@AppleBaron definitely not morde and akali. Both are nothing like original and broke the game.
Turn every champion into a MAN!
@@AppleBaron Morde rework was hot garbage, the champion doesn't feel similar in any way to the old one
@@vocecaiunocontodomalakoi7541 speak for yourself I love new Morde in both aesthetic and abilities like he feels even more like a giant menace with his mace bonk, aoe pull and the fucking shadow realm too
Pantheon is one of my favourite champs and I'm very happy to see him featured in the new cinematic.
Pantheon's VA still manages to give me goosebumps every time he speaks, props to him he put his heart and soul into that performance.
Honestly, the way Pantheon got reworked or Warwick. ... I wish they would have done it to Aatrox and Mordekaiser
@Noah P I like the whole death dimension thing, I wish it could kinda be both, where defeating them there lets you enslave them for a bit. There has to be a way for allies to help their teammate though. Like maybe they can't contribute damage on more, but they should still be able to give shields and heals or interact with them in some way that doesn't negate the point of mordes ult, but doesn't feel unfair to be targeted by.
Aatrox I'm fine with honestly. I played old Aatrox and the only thing I ever liked about him was the blood pool thing, but damaging himself to do more damage was stupid, the healing was the only good version and it was busted at times or straight up underwhelming, and the revive was often just a second death - could have been fine if he did a burst of damage around him upon reviving, or gained a shield based on how many people were around him when he went down. My only complaint about new Aatrox his how similar his Q and E feel to riven. I kinda wish his E at least could refresh his passive or be longer towards enemies and shorter as an escape. just do something other than be a crappy almost non existant dash.
Pantheon is so bad now
Aatrox got straight out replaced
@@victor-oh juat like old Mordekaiser
@@TheRelicOfOwls Can't be both, Mord ultimate should be Viego ultimates, and Mord should kept his old ult
Draven excited to see video about Brother Pantheon.
Praise Allah
@@yahwhey2392 Wrong god
@@phoenixflamegames1 if you say so. lmao
Inshallah brother droben
Draven more exicted about Brother JACK, unstoppable duo bot.
I have played pantheon for a while now since like 2015 and I have one comment about it. They completely removed him from the jungle. They nerves his q and e damage to jungle monsters for no reason besides his gank potential with w. It really just makes panth a unfun champion in jungle and that was my favorite role with him.
True I wish panth jg was a thing too. They nerfed it because he was flexing 4 roles and now he isnt picked much in any role and just played support again..
Jungle pantheon is a monster in wr
Yea i lobe him in jg
@@Sa_790 true jungle pantheon on WR is busted
@@Sa_790 i play jg pantheon on WR and i have 100%wr of 6 match
That Mantheon montage gave me life.
13:49 Timestamp for future reference
His helmet was stifling, it narrowed his vision, and he must see far.
His shield was heavy, it threw him off balance, and his target was far away.
Nice reference, dude
I swear the title was originally "Pizza Feet to CHAD"
it was, you are not delusional
Yes it was😂
I never liked old Panth. When I was counter-picked, he felt unfair. When I tried him, he felt useless because I wasn't using him to cheese. The reworked version is so damn good. He is the reason I even started playing mid every now and then.
The thing that bothered me the most was his old Q. I feel like everyone would've been satisfied had they just turned it into a skillshot from the get go
when im discussing balance with my friends i talk about the 5 types of league of legends fighting: tankiness, burstiness, sustain, crowd control and mobility. i thought this was a genius system until i realized i had just perfectly described warwick
I love how pantheon is just the embodiment of unyielding resolve.
His sheer willpower is inspiring.
The current Pantheon is one of the bigger Chad of LoL, an inspiration for his mates and a respectable opponent for his ennemies. Everything on his gameplay, lore and design is amazing, powerfull. A pleasure to main him.
his splash art tho 👌
Which one
@@expiredcells2422 new
As a former Pantheon main I will always remember how his Q tap also had a slow. It was amazing in 1v1's giving me 2 spell rotations before they could run away, but they removed it and I was never the same after that.
I feel like Panth should still be able to block towers, at least with the empowered E. Persistence and resilience are the core of his character, and that would be well displayed through the ability to do what no others could. Additionally if it were locked behind mortal will, it would mean that any time he intends to use it he would either have to strongly telegraph his next move, and sacrifice the extra damage from either of his other two abilities.
I love to abuse his new W's 3 hits. It applies on-hit at 100% effectiveness. On hit panth at full build can basically melt anything.
Mantheon is on a class of it's own when it comes to reworks.
"I WILL REMEMBER YOUR NAME AND SHOUT IT TO THE HEAVENS" I love that phrase from Phant
His lore is legendary. The aspect abandoned him when Aatrox stabbed him, but the mortal man that remained just ripped the sword out and kept fighting.
MANTHEON
"Any property that negates the pressure of a tower blatantly infringes on game balance."
Meanwhile fizz E: hihi tower shot goes byebye
Fizz's E negates up to like 2 tower shots at absolute max and you have to time it perfectly so you activate E as soon as the first one is about to hit. Also it's on a super long cooldown during the laning phase
@@Thund3rDrag0n12 fizz main detected
@@olafthemoose9413 Actually I'm a Nasus main. Part of mastering such a simple champion is learning how other more complex champions work lol
there was a bit backlash of Panth mains when the rework was released.
a lot of them quit the game.
if i remember correctly, he was nearly unplayable top lane after the rework and was only playable as a support.
even after they buffed his solo laning, he became more of a mid laner than a top laner.
(acording to my memory of the first couple of months after he got reworked)
The motivation section was so good. I needed that.
Jungle pantheon and his *not at all OP* ability to solo dragón at lvl 2 got me to Diamond for the first time, in season 6. Good times.
lol same
I like what they did with him, but they failed hard at making him viable in the top lane. He's supposedly awesome in the mid lane, but I really don't like playing him there.
I mean, pta galeforce pantheon is disturbing. Galeforce at someone into W for pta, then they die in a single Q.
@@sebastianlaplume461 remember old prowlers claw? That item was even better on him
He is a fucking nightamare in midlane
He works toplane, you just have to know exactly what you're doing. If you don't immediately control the wave level 1 you lose, he's extremely punishing to play. Right now he's pretty bad top though because lethal tempo is so broken and he doesn't use it all that well for his trading pattern
He's a good early lane bully at toplane but falls mid and late game
But the only thing lacking for him is lane sustain which most toplaners have so he shifted to mid as mid is more (burst down gameplay) than (sustain gameplay)
Holy crap, that ending with the Pantheon quotes with his background theme made me feel something.
I think this is your best video yet. It’s so full of personality
Theoretically his rework was awesome. Though one goal was to pu him into the top lane again with the occasional mid pick. Then he was played support, got nerfed repeatedly and now only has bonus ad scalings with too low base numbers. He's back to being purely an assassin like pre rework
It's a fun play style but I don't like that's its almost the only one
You could actually get 3 procs of the old shield passive with pantheon! If you had 3 stacks on it and used W without your passive getting used up, recalled or used R, you would keep your stacks and also get your passive.
This way you could block a hit,
W to fully stack and block a hit
And Use an ability/auto to get all stacks and block a last hit
Imagine the salt in chat after you towerdive and manage to block 3 towershots
No no you don't base or R you instead wait till the W cd is over before fighting a enemy champion that way they hit you you instant prock passive and then they hit you again and then you W mostly done on jungle panth back in the days
the little motivational montage with his quotes gave me the warm fuzzy feeling
Mantheon's speech was really inspiring
Pantheon then: *Red eyes glow
*Slaps you with spear with no consent
Pantheon now: *Body glows
Riot: Your a support now
Pantheon: RIIIIIIOOOOOOTTTTTT!!!
His toplane have 4-5% higher winrate , than support. People are just stuborn to play him support and keep failing. I guess they follow his quote ,,how many times I die, before I learn to play"
Pretty awesome retrospective, I agree with almost everything you said but I honestly hate that riot removed him from support, they keep saying that they want people to experiment and choose different mythics for different kinds of gameplay, but if Morgana jungle, Pantheon support or Pyke mid appears, they erease them from the game
Pyke mid still exists, it just requires game knowledge, sat around 88 percent last season
Panth support is still a thing you just don't see it much
Been looking forward to a rework video for my highest mastery champ! I only started playing League in January of 2020 so I never got to try old Panth, but I've seen some videos about old Panth and I'm more than happy with the iteration I got to know and love.
Love the little edits and animations
I liked his pre season 10 mini rework cause his empowered abilities actually made something more than damage. Now it's just Q more damage, w more damage and e a bit of ms speed that is almost never used unless for trading. I didn't like that he blocked turret shots but he was better overall
Pantheon🤤🥵🤭
the last part was a perfect touch to the video👌
I’ve mained pantheon since season 3 (2012) and agree with your video. It took me awhile to appreciate and love the changes.
It was my old and 1rst main back in S2 / S3 and S5 . i have so much fond memories with him, this made me want to play him again
13:25 Lel, GP retained 3 out of 4 abilities with almost zero changes, passive was changed a bit, but retained very similar and his old E is partly on his ult upgrade
He lost nothing in terms of mechanics, they just added barrels and ult upgrades, so doesn't look like "He is built from scratch" for me
I'm learning how to bake cause of pantheon and he was the first champ I actually really put time to learn and help me learn the game, I'm glad he got a great video on him like this
everyone keeps talking about "blocking 2 attacks in a row" but there was also a fairly easy setup to block 3 in a row, "get 3/4 stacks for a block > use W on a minion to get a block (3/4 persist) > wait W cd out > tank turretshot > attack to get 4th stack > tank another one > W > tank third
Man, i love pantheon's music theme, gives me goosebumps to this day, makes me want to play him
Pantheon was my very first played champion way back 2012, and I loved him back then but eventually his simplistic playstyle made me go for other champions. His rework made me so happy, nostalgic and it made me feel curious like when I started playing League when I was a teenager.
5:59 Damn I miss stonewall...dude was always on point with his gameplay commentaries~
funny thing is Panth is actually at his strongest at early and late game, as his lane pressure in mid game falls off hard. Thats why he has to roam in the mid game. his Late game is one of the strongest in the game as 30% armor pen, combined with black cleaver, bork and eclipse gives him one of the most potent tank shreding kits in the game.
Edit: He also can still assassinate ADC's with these items while maintaining his resiliance using his E
Pantheon always held a special place in my heart along with Aphelios. He was the second champion I bought, the first i ever played in normal games. The feeling of a god of war, a spartan warrior that is easy to understand yet fun to master. One of the best reworks, I agree
I liked and subbed the moment i heard radiant dawn endgame preparation screen ost
The best Pantheon quote is the spanish version of one of Aurelion Sols quotes: "Anótalo en mi cuenta, a nombre de Pantheon con "P" de panadero" Which in english is "Just put it on my tab the names Pantheon, with a P-" except the spanish version adds the joke of the word Panadero also starting with P, which means Baker XD
as an old pantheon main and also curent pantheon main i agree that this rework was one of the best reworks, i enjoyed the storry twist, his playstyle, his visual, and those quots ? just listen to them every time i am feelin down (yea realy), and when i dont have the option to listen to it a just remember them as i go to the next chalange :) love this video
Mantheon Quotes always gives me goosebumps, such a Chad, such a Man, inspiring and unyielding, with a VERY badass music entrance.
Pantheon's speak at the end of the video made me cry, think it hit me hard. 👌
6:30 damn have not heard Stonewalls voice in so long. Guy pretty much taught me how to jungle when i first started league of legends. I miss his jungle videos.
The tower theme from radiant dawn is a really appropriate choice of music for this retrospective
Fav voice lines: I cast my excuse to the first ! And I sought power on targon pick, but I found it within.
If I'm not mistaken you used to be a maplestory TH-camr I watched for guides and now look at you... Getting tons of views with League! Proud of you ~~
I love how the lore also kept with his rework. Adding an extra layer to the rework
For anyone wanting to listen to Panth quotes, I highly recommend a version from "Just another nobody".
I agree with pretty much all that you said, and the LORE! So gooood!!
Also one of the most hard-hitting themes in game
AAAAAOOOAAAHHHH
chills
my main, watching the old panth made me feel nostalgic
13:50 This part was so good :D . Could you do a video on the old nunu? I thought it was hilarious
MY MAN SMARTBORED POPPED OFFFFF 😫😩😩 IM SO HAPPY FOR U
11:04 actually, the armor pen. is a passive from his ultimate, 10% for each level, like Darius' E. Great video btw.
I main pantheon, didnt paly befor reqork but i love him rly manly and cool i love listening to his theme in the gym and my favorit quote is "let this day be legend" or "aatrox has slaughtert gods but now he faces a man"
This is why pantheon will be my favorite league champion ever. The rework encapsulated inspiration, and I love it.
Pantheon is one of the best motivational speakers. I love playing him for his quotes.
Loved the champ and the video
The quote section was super cool
I like both of em. He will always be my main
playing him on aram is awesome, building him up in mid game to dominate and keeping it up till the end if you can maintain your skill shots, coming behind with his ult to take out mages to flip a tower roll, especially trolling caits with e trying to kill my squishies. And oh my god trolling and taking a nexus running past the entire team with the ult
the voice lines segment was chefs kiss
Talking empowered ability I remember that it was my favorite aspect of battlerite it was basically a meter system from fighting games where you could chose to empower an ability or save it for an ult to bad the games dead
The first time I saw Pantheon was well before I started playing League. And even then, I was like: "OH MY GOD!!!! HE'S SO GODDAMN COOL!!!"
14:00 Before Gwen's theme I used to play Phanteon's theme in repeat for the whole day every day. That music is soooo gooooodd...
Now I have to listen it again.. Deam it..
Would just like to add, since I didnt see it, that the w normally scales with AP, but empowered w allows it to scale with ad
I know it might take a while to make. But I think it's a fun video idea: How about going through the current VGU list of champions and see what kind of changes they would need to make in order for those listed to function well. And because of how well Pantheon, Fiddle, Voli, and most likely Udyr's reworks are. I think you'd have a good basis for it
As a pantheon main i have to say this video makes me very happy
Honestly with the theme and voice lines they nailed it
Love this 💜💜💜 not to mention Pantheon's theme is MANLINESS 💪💪💪
Looking at the items in the old clips and seeing old Tiamat
I'm actually going to cry...
Can't wait for twitch.
That perma invis was great (for twitch )
14:35 I love the accent of the speaker there, it is so well pronounced O.o