Jim is totally right about one thing: what happened in that house is completely UNPRECEDENTED. It's never happened before or since. Any idiot kidnapper would not write a 3 page note, threaten to kidnap, then NOT kidnap. They would want to take the child and get out of the house ASAP. As they say, there's something rotten in Denmark.
Yup, One thing that bugs me is they always blame the police for bungling the case. I would have to agree that they were inexperienced and could have handled it better. Still, that doesn't mean the Ramseys had nothing to do with it.
Good for Jim Clemente! Highly respect him, and even more so for asking this question. We all know Jim is correct. John Ramsey continues to bastardize his own Christian faith. Patsy is waiting for him in wherever land.
He comes out 25 years later to Crimecon, where was he 1,2, 3 days right after the murder? Not doing an interview w/ police. Day one, she is lying dead under their Christmas tree and John called his pilot to fly them to Atlanta. Umm, what? One of the 3 knows exactly what happened that night. Totally love and respect the work of Jim Clemente. Thanks for sharing!
@@bethryan9077 oh you are stll here. Not reading your whole shpeel. Read the last sentence and that indicates to me that I don't wish to read anything before the last sentence. There is such a thing as respect and you dear Beth do not show any respect to anyone who do not agree with you. Almost somthing like a "Karen". If you want people to respect your point of view even if they don't agree with you, you should also show respect through your communication towards them. Otherwise people will never listen to your point of view and you'll only be seen as a nutter. Hope you get it.
That was very brave and awkward to ask (and imply) that Burke caused JonBenet's death. I'd have liked to hear John's explanation why it couldn't have happened that way.
@night cat so why else would they have (most probably) written the "ransom note" on their own pad of paper using some of their common verbage - that includes info related to John's work bonus amount? Without any fingerprints - even though one of the Ramsey's had to pick it up off the first steps of the rear staircase? That is why I think they covered for Burke and staged the "scene" in the basement. And wrote that ransome note with gloves on. Otherwise I think one of them would have eventually folded if one of them did it. That leaves Burke - I personally believe they stayed strong for Burke.
He was 7-years old. Come-on. They can’t blame the mom, she’s dead and can’t defend herself, so let’s blame the awkward son. Boulder LE bungled case, they contaminated crime scene, even if they ever got a confession from the adult who did this, any Defense Atty, would point out the mishandling of evidence.
Paula Woodward's been in love w Ramsey since I lived back in Denver, decades ago.🙄🙄🙄 I'd have asked that clown what up w Fleet White? Why'd he and Fleet fight, to the point of Fleet opting to never speak to Ramsey ever again?
@@bethryan9077 Flattery.🥰👍😍 So, I actually know a good deal more about this murder than the average chap. I lived in Denver at the time, and have been engrossed and intrigued by the case since it occurred. I also know that whatever happened was huge, at a time when most best friends would come together, and they never spoke again after their argument.
@@bethryan9077 well, I never said that I'm the number one expert on the case... that was you projecting your feelings about my comment onto me, not based upon anything that I've stated. I'm confident in what I know about the case. My knowledge spans decades, and that was long before online crime yt'rs.🤗
@@bethryan9077 I don't think that you understood my point about Fleet. Plus, you assume a lot... and you're snippy for no reason. I hope 2023 is better for you.👍🤗🎉
That is true, no killer would be able to write a lengthy ransom note after the killing but it makes all the sense since this is not a premeditated murder but a cover up
Forensic pathologist Cyril Wecht said that she died from strangulation and that the blow to the head was done after she died, because of the lack of blood. What about the signs of sexual abuse that they found. It wasn't just done to her on the night of her murder!
@TCRS---Omg, I LOVE it!! Big slip of the tongue for John in letting us know that the police believe the same thing that TENS OF THOUSANDS of us believe!! BDI all the way!! Thank you so much for posting this, Nick!!
@@bethryan9077 the DNA is actually not that clear. It is degraded to such an extent and also believed to be a mixture of several people, that there is just as much chance that it's an artifact--left their innocently. If you are operating on the bs that Mary Lacy spewed.. you should dig deeper. She literally lied and misstated the nature of the DNA evidence
Why is the theory of Burke fatally harming her and the parents covering it up absurd? It’s not absurd at all. Maybe the accusation makes him angry. Why should it? Why is it ridiculous that the police felt this way? It’s plausible. What does her cause of death have to do with Burke not being able to have committed the crime?
@@rajkoelguapo12 So children can sometimes act out in ways like this (the feces in his sister's room) because something in their life feels out of control and the way of taking back control is to sort of lay claim to things by defecating or urinating in inappropriate places. This type of behaviour is usually associated with sexual or physical trauma, which of course can impact a child's development severely.
Here's the thing, now that Patsy's gone, he could blame her whether she did it or not. He could say he didn't want her to spend her last years in jail. Unless someone else comes forward, I don't know that we can trust anything he says.
Strange that he said the police theory was that Burke hit her when in the interview with 60 Minutes Australia he said that from day 1 the police never thought Burke had any involvement. Also, the story about a break in nearby changed in previous interviews from a mother scaring an intruder off to the father doing it.
Because the attack on 'Amy" was fake. There was no evidence it ever happened. Just another Ramsey facade to evade the issue & continue the charade. The Ramsey's were/are con artists.
John can't keep all his lies straight. Anything John is on is nothing but a bunch of propaganda anyway. No one asks him questions he doesn't want to answer. They probably told this guy Jim Clemente to leave after he asked his question.
Yeah right. John wants the world to believe an intruder broke into the home, decided to write a ransom note, screwed up a rough draft and discarded it, wrote another one 3 pages long, fixed a snack while he was there, and waited until their arrival, went to Jonbenet's room and got her out of bed, fatally harmed her and left her wrapped in a blanket in the basement, and still decided to leave a ransom note on the steps. That story would make for a horrible plot for the lowest budget movie ever. It makes no sense, and it doesn't make sense because it isn't true!
@@teddyjam8134 Not only that, but he brought her pillow and blanket down and made her some pineapple. I'm surprised the Ramseys didn't discover them watching movies together.
The Governor of Colorado is reviewing a petition to take the JonBenet investigation away from the Boulder Police because of their incompetence and resistance to outside help.
Think people! They won't take any outside help? Maybe that's because outside help may easily find that there has been a "paid to bungle" operation going on. Where's your critical thinking skills?
@@barbarasimmons4158 Yes use yours as well. The Boulder Pd recently disciplined 5 BPD officers for failures to properly investigate crimes. Trujillo from the JonBenet Ramsey investigation was included A petition has been sent to the Governor of Colorado to allow an agency other than Boulder to review the case. Ask yourself why would the family push for this outside investigation if there was a coverup involved? Think about it. The Boulder PD doesn’t want their bungles revealed. They weren’t paid for it just lacked the expertise for a murder investigation.
@@jolywinters4957 Ask yourself why? Cause they KNOW that the remaining DNA cannot prove that family did it...and that would be the end of the DNA samples - won't be any samples left when the technology IS advanced enough to prove that family did it.
@@barbarasimmons4158 The limited amount of dna is the BPD’s narrative. The investigation is being turned over to the Colorado Cold Case team in 2023. There is crucial evidence such as the garrote that was never tested for dna. Test the dna Solve the case.
My question to John would be while in the ransom note it was clearly indicated that if they call the police, their daughter will be executed. As parents, why didn't they at least hesitate or be more careful when contacting the police knowing this act will put their daughter's life in jeopardy if they truly believe that their daughter was being kidnapped? Patsy didn't even mention this when she placed the call and apparently John encouraged her to call the police right away. Most parents even go out of their way to keep quiet and get ready the money hoping for the safe return of their child.
Paint the World, They called the police without the fear of their daughter being killed because they already knew at that time of the 911 call the daughter was already dead. By them by the way.
@@bethryan9077 But you do right. 98% of people who followed this case believe the Ramsey's are guilty. They are without a doubt guilty. Patsy ruined everything with her foolish ransom note. But i will give credit where credit is due. They got away with it. Money talks.
I've always heard that if people kidnap a loved one for ransom or try to extort you, and they threaten to kill or hurt if you call the police. Then still call the police. Law enforcement is suppose to know how to deal with kidnappers & ransom threats.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. They called LE, if they hadn’t, they would have been accused of hiding something. Boulder PD were in over their heads. First, they didn’t check the entire premises, then, They let the crime scene get contaminated, no gloves, LE, reporters traipsing in and out.
Her wording in that 911 call is really weird too.... "We've got a kidnapping." Huh? "We've got a kidnapping?" Not "My daughter has been kidnapped!" The former sounds like you're reporting something that you're not part of. The latter sounds like it's happening to you and you need help.
So strange, I can't believe that the family went to bed on Xmas night, not setting security alarm and feeling so safe in that huge house with only 4 of them there?? Being a prominent business man, wealthy and well known!!! wouldn't you expect that he would keep his family and house secure and safe as possible??Truth will eventually come out...🤨🤔
@@bethryan9077 There were no problems Beth with the security system. As John pointed out in latter interviews he forgot to set it. By the way, are you a family relative??
@BethRyan: Boulder in 1996 was not some safe bastion with no crime. There might not have been a lot of murders but there was plenty of crime and break ins. I lived in Wheat Ridge CO at the time. Statistically way safer than Boulder and we had an alarm. We always armed it at night and always checked to make sure doors and windows were closed and locked at night and when we left the house. If a intruder did this the Ramsey's allowed it by being so lax in security. They were wealthy, living near a park where a lot of homeless people hung out. They weren't' t worried about burglars? They had a minor celebrity daughter who had performed at local shopping malls. It didn't dawn on them that she could be a target from that kind of exposure? And please don't use the excuse that this was the 90's and somehow crime was much lower then. It wasn't. This wasn't the 50's.
@@lolajoker in addition..the family had been out to a party that night. So possibly they would have alarms on and windows entrances locked. Especially since they were leaving the next am to another state. Most anyone would have checked the house and been ready to move out the next day. Unless, they regularly left their house open, when out of state.
Imagine sitting at a convention smiling and answering questions about your brutally murdered 6 year old daughter. The Ramsey's actions have always spoken louder than their feeble words.
He wants the crime to be solved....what other avenues does he have, other than to explore this one? He's not smiling like he's enjoying this (or smiling much at all), he seems like he's trying to remain positive and civil. Remember when Burke was smiling like an idiot during that Dr Phil interview, and every soccer mom with a People magazine subscription and terrible judgement chalked that behavior up to a clear consciousness of guilt? People often overestimate their abilities to read other peoples' behavior, as evidenced here.
If he was involved in her murder, it doesn't make any sense for him to continue speaking on this years after the public forgot about it, years after his wife died and years after the DA cleared his family. If anything under those circumstances, you'd want to lay low and stop bringing attention to the case. This was over 20 years ago, he's remarried now and nobody would think anything of him moving on with his life.
What criminal commits a crime in a house full of people and uses pen and paper within the house there at the crime scene? It just doesn't make any sense. I think Burke did it not knowing the severity of what he was doing and the parents tried to cover it up to protect him. To me that is the only logical explaination.
Has anyone here bothered to view the documentary which depicts the efforts to figure out what happened? Henry Lee was in this, as was Mr. Clemente and Laura Roberts; other investigators with expertise participated as well. They literally built a duplicate of the inside of the home inside a huge hangar in order to try to figure out IF an intruder was able to enter,, etc., so forth. Years after JonBenet was murdered, her brother was interviewed by psychologists -- his reactions to the pineapple issue was very interesting. That ransom note was absolutely not written by anyone else than Patsy Ramsey. Also, there was an enhancement done by an audio expert and when the tape of the 9/11 call was made, you can clearly hear Patsy's voice, John's voice AND Burke's voice on that tape. The 9/11 operator was NEVER asked about that call; in fact she was warned not to say one word about that call shortly after the investigation commenced by the grand jury. This was a staged event; no one else was in that home that night other than the Ramsey family.
@@Bayareamom9 I agree with everything you wrote here on JonBenet’s case. You and I seem to be on exactly the same page. I have two questions, if you don’t mind: 1-can you tell me the name of the documentary and/or where I can find it. 2-was it Laura Roberts or a Laura Richards? Richard’s is retired, blond and-yes, British, but for some reason I want to say she somehow was on this case, if memory serves?
@@79bewareofpuppies97 Yeah he was, he was jealous because she got all the attention! I have read a lot on this case and all evidence points to burke being the one who hit her with the flashlight and patsy covering it up
A major part of John’s dismissal of guilt is based upon the Coroner’s report? I hadn’t heard that before. It’s very interesting to see John’s turtle posture while delivering this. Anyone who wanted to do harm to JonBenet could have inflicted both traumas in succession. He just looks so sheepish and approval seeking. Thank you for sharing, Nick.
Great point. His theory hangs one that one thing. What if the coroner was wrong? The one gal sitting next to John even stated how odd it would be for those two things to be going on simultaneously. Was there a second opinion? I’m not, WHY NOT?!
@@bethryan9077 the strange way that she was killed sounds kinda like a ritual? Not his coming out and speaking. As far as I'm concerned...I don't blame him a bit for speaking out. Dear
Why did the note say to expect a call at a certain time and that time came and went without the Ramsay’s being upset, asking law enforcement about it, being apprehensive? All indications are that there was no call and no mention of it after the designated call time.
The first detective who went in the house she knew it was the dad from second one and I believe everything she says in the interview she gave ,everything she says
I don’t know but there is something strange about what both people here are saying how they are saying it what they are saying. I don’t know it’s just a feeling.
@@bettinastebner Absolutely. The question was posed by Jim Clemente. He was involved in the television documentary that resolved Burke killed his sister. Burke them to court and there is a history of animosity between them that is quite personal.
Not at ALL and all his answers are so rehearsed I don't believe this new narrative John Ramsey trying to put out I know everyone says WHY is he still pushing he knows crime will not be solved and he moved on with his life after Patsy died remarried so now he has to keep up the facade somewhat for the new wife
The only reason that Parents would get in the way of an investigation as to who killed their child, is if their other child was the killer!! I have thought this since day 1!!!
Or there was someone else at the house they're covering for. If sexual abuse is part of the equation, the possible scenarios expand. Rich and powerful people get involved in some weird stuff.
@@bethryan9077 Some of the best criminologists in the country believe John did it. Based off of their break down of the evidence, I believe that too. I never said Burke did it. I believe John did.
@@bethryan9077 ma’am, I said what I said. You’re not going to be able to make everyone agree with you. Keep your pity and direct it toward the victim in this case who never received justice.
What John Ramsey didn’t say was that this perpetrator that was scared off by the parent actually had a belt next to the bed, so if not interrupted, Lord only knows what would’ve happened
I still believe it was a cover-up, with too much circumstantial evidence and motive. The interview with the female officer who was first on the scene will help with any conspiracies.
@@bethryan9077 So you think it's completely ok that Ramsey moved his daughter's body to the living room and called all his friends before the police arrived? Totally destroying the crime scene for any DNA evidence that could have been found?
When she said the thing about sexualabuse he looked at her like 👀 stfu.. and proceeded to say " anyways" He can never just answer the question straight out its always a confusing story then no answer.
For me it feels like he's lying. What reason to go to crimecon? But then again I hope some day it will be solved. His behavior right after the time of her death is just weird / unemotional / not cooperating. "finding" her / inviting friends. Also weird that Patsy never came out with her view on this case. Well, not that I know of. It's all very sad.
@@bethryan9077 wow, so much more details. It is very confusing. And indeed a jury did this case nothing good. I followed "true crime rocket science " and listened to all his stories and views and opinions. But there's so much more. If they got DNA now, could they not find a family member of the killers? We had here in Holland a case were a whole village had to give DNA.
@@bethryan9077 My comment was in regards to the coordinated and rehearsed appearance of the Ramseys' interviews in the 10 years after the murder - not this particular video.
@@bethryan9077 That's incorrect - there were several independent handwriting analyses completed in the wake of this case and most concluded that it was 'extremely likely' that Patsy wrote the note. Also you can look at the note and the handwriting samples yourself and it is obvious that they match (despite her apparent attempts to disguise her handwriting). You don't seem to be very educated about this case - I suggest doing some research before commenting further.
You can't get away from the fact that Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom note. I wish Jim Clemente would give as much attention to the McCann case as he has done to the Ramsey case. Jim appears to have just watched the Netflix nonsense and then believed he knew the Madeleine McCann case.
Does anyone know when this panel/interview happened? I find it interesting that John says the police theory is that Burke did it.... I've always been under the impression the police were not looking at Burke and was an internet theory.
Why didn’t he bring up the pineapple? She has pineapple in her stomach and a bowl of it was found on the table. He and patsy say they knew nothing about her eating pineapple
Did he have a house full of arch's and squares first ? Or a pilot with that name? How about the faces on the rug, walls,trunk,crowns, bed 👀,and a skull on the Christmas tree in her room with a blur wreck (tangle)?
The problem with it being an intruder is there is no sign of where they entered. The broken window was dismissed due to the cobwebs being in tact in the corner of the window. I have to wonder if her head was split open on the cement in the room where she was found.
@@jamesradskijr.9745 yes, John dismissed that window himself, day of. He only started pointing at the window when Smitt later said that it was most likely the entry point.
@@jamesradskijr.9745 Lou Smit was too biased. He just couldn't imagine that a "God fearing couple" like the Ramsay's could be involved. When I saw him say that on video, I was like "this guy isn't credible.... he's just making noise and carrying water for the Ramsay's."
Why would anyone go to the trouble of going into that confined space to break into the small basement window when they could stand on that grate and break into a much larger window?
The part where the DNA is a tangled mess and essentially useless, if you follow all the circumstancial evidence it points to the Ramsey's covering up for Burke, there's very very little evidence regarding an intruder, they're relying on unreliable DNA evidence.
The guy gets up in front of a lot of people, doesn't duck yet another thinly veiled accusation by a law enforcement type, and still gets hammered for how he answers, or his body language. This was either a "brilliant family conspiracy + completely inept law enforcement" or a "psychopath killed a little girl" case. With law enforcement clinging on to the "it never happened this way before" mindset, as if a psychopath would care. If there is ever proof beyond a reasonable doubt that an intruder killer this girl, I trust there will be millions of apologies given to this family.
Are you aware of how the Grand Jury voted after both sides presented their evidence? And that the contents of the unsigned indictments were suppressed for 15 years?
@@TCRS Yes.....it's a good thing for that community that the Prosecutor took a dive. Regardless of whether that was a political move or not, there never would have been a conviction. It would have been an abysmal failure, and a circus. Rather like the Morphew case in Colorado became before the dismissal. I can see a parent participating in a cover up for, or even losing it and participating in, the death of a child that happened due to head trauma. Not strangling though, either to ensure death or for staging. No...not strangling.
@@TCRS Grand Juries in the US don't hear both sides, only the prosecution side, we have a saying here that a grand jury can indict a "ham sandwich", just fyi, not that I think that indictment wasn't warranted,..
I DON'T KNOW HIS FINANCIAL SITUATION TODAY BUT WONDER IF HE ATTENDS CRIMECON SUPPORTS THE BOOKS ETC POSSIBLY FOR MONEY. INCOME AND MAYBE THE HOPE THAT HER MURDERER WILL SHOW UP AT INE OF THESE EVENTS OR HE WILL GET A TIP OR SUCH. THANKS
It was a good question. I thought about what I'd say here if i was John. Ultimately, there is really just one honest answer i can think of from john prespective ( if he is innocent).. that is - " I guess there has to be that ONE instance out of thousands where a case like this turned out the way it did statistically".
People been accusing this man and Patsy fir decades and I think it’s despicable. I watched so many interviews of them and not once did they look like they’d be capable of such evil act. Someone killed their child,someone that hated them with passion for some reason. Leave the man alone and atop acting like you care more about someone else’s child than her parents. If they did it they’d be in prison long time ago. NO ONE could get away with that and act 20+ years. This is completely unheard of and total nonsense. It’s disgusting that you people convicted this man of killing his own child. Just think how you would feel…
Hmmmmm very telling. Instead of immediately answering well, we didnt do it, he goes on about WHY it couldn’t have happened. Never says it didnt happen. Firmly believe they had a very, very, very troubled 3 days from being 10 years old boy. Who was very jealous of his sister, and had known bed wetting AS did sister, anger issues, and there is indication of sexual abuse. I think something happened Christmas night that he flew into a rage and the rest is history. He says “John Douglas says a note like that couldnt have been written after a crime like that. Extremely bizarre statement from an innocent person. He simply cant say “we didnt do it”
@@bethryan9077 Proven innocent? lol How exactly do you think that they were 'proven' innocent? I am questioning what is being falsely presented as the truth, given an analysis of the evidence in the case as well as the behavior of those involved. You are taking their claims of innocence at face value without questioning them, so I would say you are the one who is brainwashed. If you look at all of the evidence in the case as well as the behavior of the parents during the interviews the inescapable conclusion is that they are lying, staged the intruder scenario and know exactly who the murderer is.
@@bethryan9077 Oh I understand the word perfectly well. My questions is 'how' exactly, in your mind, were they proven innocent and by whom? Did you just accept this claim at face value without objective, critical analysis? What is it, in your mind, that overcomes the overwhelming evidence against them and 'exonerates' them? I think you are commenting without having a good understanding of the case and the evidence involved.
Does anyone know anymore about jonbenet photographer and his prison sentence over child porn? The detective at the autopsy said she felt there was evidence of sustained sexual abuse... Which most people pointed to the father - but perhaps it was a separate issue to her death in the home?
Who is this lady and WHY did she interrupt him? omg, ughhh. Was this Vegas? I think I popped in for a second. Anyone invested in this case is an amazing mind. I can't handle the amount of information at this point. I'm just two years older than Jon Benet Ramsey so it's been a part of my entire life. Truly, if she had lived, we would likely hear about her just as much, if not more. Still breaks my heart; she was precious.
The sexual molestation is brought up by the host, but John doesnt want to mention it. This means if no intruder, then John has committed a crime and no accident occurred.
Jim is totally right about one thing: what happened in that house is completely UNPRECEDENTED. It's never happened before or since. Any idiot kidnapper would not write a 3 page note, threaten to kidnap, then NOT kidnap. They would want to take the child and get out of the house ASAP. As they say, there's something rotten in Denmark.
Yup, One thing that bugs me is they always blame the police for bungling the case. I would have to agree that they were inexperienced and could have handled it better. Still, that doesn't mean the Ramseys had nothing to do with it.
*_Yup!! Only a person inside that house did it.. NOBODY broke in & did it!! That NEVER happened.. It happened from the INSIDE!!_*
@@AnnaLexi so many yups
@@RJ-jc4zb *_What? I only said it 1 time!!_*
Linda first detective called for bsckup....they said can't we arexin a meeting
As usual, he completely skirts around the actual question and does his best to play the victim.
Ramsey says he cant understand the criminal mind. Oh yes he can!
Good for Jim Clemente! Highly respect him, and even more so for asking this question. We all know Jim is correct. John Ramsey continues to bastardize his own Christian faith. Patsy is waiting for him in wherever land.
Um, there is no hellor heaven patsy is in ground.
No joke. True
He comes out 25 years later to Crimecon, where was he 1,2, 3 days right after the murder? Not doing an interview w/ police. Day one, she is lying dead under their Christmas tree and John called his pilot to fly them to Atlanta. Umm, what? One of the 3 knows exactly what happened that night. Totally love and respect the work of Jim Clemente. Thanks for sharing!
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@@bethryan9077 yaawwwwnn
*_Yup!! One of them did it.. I’m leaning towards the parents, but one of them did it!!_*
He dismisses the sexual assault.
Exactly
DearJohn, please come clean and tell the truth. You know what happened.
@@79bewareofpuppies97 why do you say that?
@@bethryan9077 oh you are stll here. Not reading your whole shpeel. Read the last sentence and that indicates to me that I don't wish to read anything before the last sentence. There is such a thing as respect and you dear Beth do not show any respect to anyone who do not agree with you. Almost somthing like a "Karen". If you want people to respect your point of view even if they don't agree with you, you should also show respect through your communication towards them. Otherwise people will never listen to your point of view and you'll only be seen as a nutter. Hope you get it.
@@bethryan9077 is this your real name, cause looking at your essays you're invested to not be related to the case
No
@@bethryan9077 blah blah blah blah
That was very brave and awkward to ask (and imply) that Burke caused JonBenet's death. I'd have liked to hear John's explanation why it couldn't have happened that way.
because it's 'absurd' according to John
He very frequently passes on the question to his experts
@night cat so why else would they have (most probably) written the "ransom note" on their own pad of paper using some of their common verbage - that includes info related to John's work bonus amount? Without any fingerprints - even though one of the Ramsey's had to pick it up off the first steps of the rear staircase? That is why I think they covered for Burke and staged the "scene" in the basement. And wrote that ransome note with gloves on. Otherwise I think one of them would have eventually folded if one of them did it. That leaves Burke - I personally believe they stayed strong for Burke.
@@sharonm.t.2492 Oh Burke did it for sure & Patsy wrote the ransom essay. John's money & influence covered it up.
He was 7-years old. Come-on.
They can’t blame the mom, she’s dead and can’t defend herself, so let’s blame the awkward son.
Boulder LE bungled case, they contaminated crime scene, even if they ever got a confession from the adult who did this, any Defense Atty, would point out the mishandling of evidence.
He asked a question we all wanted to know
He knows
Paula Woodward's been in love w Ramsey since I lived back in Denver, decades ago.🙄🙄🙄
I'd have asked that clown what up w Fleet White? Why'd he and Fleet fight, to the point of Fleet opting to never speak to Ramsey ever again?
@jenni lang, they quit speaking because Fleet White knew the whole "intruder" story was BS, just like most of the rest of the world does.
@@wolfie8730 yes, I know why, but nobody ever puts John on the spot w the deets of why Fleet dumped him. I want him to say it.
@@bethryan9077 Flattery.🥰👍😍
So, I actually know a good deal more about this murder than the average chap. I lived in Denver at the time, and have been engrossed and intrigued by the case since it occurred. I also know that whatever happened was huge, at a time when most best friends would come together, and they never spoke again after their argument.
@@bethryan9077 well, I never said that I'm the number one expert on the case... that was you projecting your feelings about my comment onto me, not based upon anything that I've stated. I'm confident in what I know about the case. My knowledge spans decades, and that was long before online crime yt'rs.🤗
@@bethryan9077 I don't think that you understood my point about Fleet. Plus, you assume a lot... and you're snippy for no reason. I hope 2023 is better for you.👍🤗🎉
That is true, no killer would be able to write a lengthy ransom note after the killing but it makes all the sense since this is not a premeditated murder but a cover up
I mean really John. Please come clean.
Forensic pathologist Cyril Wecht said that she died from strangulation and that the blow to the head was done after she died, because of the lack of blood. What about the signs of sexual abuse that they found. It wasn't just done to her on the night of her murder!
@TCRS---Omg, I LOVE it!! Big slip of the tongue for John in letting us know that the police believe the same thing that TENS OF THOUSANDS of us believe!! BDI all the way!!
Thank you so much for posting this, Nick!!
Yes, this is the first time I've ever heard it publicly acknowledged that that is the police case.
The local police were idiots -- throw your lot in with them if you want. lol
@@bethryan9077 the DNA is actually not that clear. It is degraded to such an extent and also believed to be a mixture of several people, that there is just as much chance that it's an artifact--left their innocently. If you are operating on the bs that Mary Lacy spewed.. you should dig deeper. She literally lied and misstated the nature of the DNA evidence
Why is the theory of Burke fatally harming her and the parents covering it up absurd? It’s not absurd at all. Maybe the accusation makes him angry. Why should it? Why is it ridiculous that the police felt this way? It’s plausible. What does her cause of death have to do with Burke not being able to have committed the crime?
100% agree. Ego
It's completely absurd given the evidence.
A child that leaves feces as a nasty surprise in his sibling’s room is very capable of doing what happened to her 👍
@@sunnydelight5255 Do explain you reasoning, in some detail.
@@rajkoelguapo12 So children can sometimes act out in ways like this (the feces in his sister's room) because something in their life feels out of control and the way of taking back control is to sort of lay claim to things by defecating or urinating in inappropriate places. This type of behaviour is usually associated with sexual or physical trauma, which of course can impact a child's development severely.
Really odd and bizarre that he's attending.
He loves the camera.
Ramsey family is guilty as hell.
Truth will set you free john
Here's the thing, now that Patsy's gone, he could blame her whether she did it or not. He could say he didn't want her to spend her last years in jail. Unless someone else comes forward, I don't know that we can trust anything he says.
Jim Clemente, thank you.
Strange that he said the police theory was that Burke hit her when in the interview with 60 Minutes Australia he said that from day 1 the police never thought Burke had any involvement. Also, the story about a break in nearby changed in previous interviews from a mother scaring an intruder off to the father doing it.
Because the attack on 'Amy" was fake. There was no evidence it ever happened. Just another Ramsey facade to evade the issue & continue the charade. The Ramsey's were/are con artists.
John can't keep all his lies straight. Anything John is on is nothing but a bunch of propaganda anyway. No one asks him questions he doesn't want to answer. They probably told this guy Jim Clemente to leave after he asked his question.
Only truth John said was “I believe when we got home the killer was in the house.”
He sure was John!!!!
Yeah right. John wants the world to believe an intruder broke into the home, decided to write a ransom note, screwed up a rough draft and discarded it, wrote another one 3 pages long, fixed a snack while he was there, and waited until their arrival, went to Jonbenet's room and got her out of bed, fatally harmed her and left her wrapped in a blanket in the basement, and still decided to leave a ransom note on the steps. That story would make for a horrible plot for the lowest budget movie ever. It makes no sense, and it doesn't make sense because it isn't true!
@@teddyjam8134 Not only that, but he brought her pillow and blanket down and made her some pineapple. I'm surprised the Ramseys didn't discover them watching movies together.
Curious if anyone sniffed the note for hints of pagent-mom perfume scent…
That's a good idea. Who knows what evidence is embedded in that note.
@@Biosynchro yes and I think they Ramseys were quick to make a photocopy for everyone to utilize.
@@CrimeAuditors that was her excuse when her fleece fibers were found on the duct tape across jbr mouth.
He's just worried about his stained reputation. Creepy man
So glad you said that. I can't put my finger on why, but John Ramsey has always given me the creeps!!
No he's worried for his stupid son!
The Governor of Colorado is reviewing a petition to take the JonBenet investigation away from the Boulder Police because of their incompetence and resistance to outside help.
Think people! They won't take any outside help? Maybe that's because outside help may easily find that there has been a "paid to bungle" operation going on. Where's your critical thinking skills?
@@barbarasimmons4158 Yes use yours as well. The Boulder Pd recently disciplined 5 BPD officers for failures to properly investigate crimes. Trujillo from the JonBenet Ramsey investigation was included A petition has been sent to the Governor of Colorado to allow an agency other than Boulder to review the case. Ask yourself why would the family push for this outside investigation if there was a coverup involved? Think about it. The Boulder PD doesn’t want their bungles revealed. They weren’t paid for it just lacked the expertise for a murder investigation.
@@jolywinters4957 Ask yourself why? Cause they KNOW that the remaining DNA cannot prove that family did it...and that would be the end of the DNA samples - won't be any samples left when the technology IS advanced enough to prove that family did it.
@@barbarasimmons4158 The limited amount of dna is the BPD’s narrative. The investigation is being turned over to the Colorado Cold Case team in 2023. There is crucial evidence such as the garrote that was never tested for dna. Test the dna Solve the case.
Ramseys guilty 💯
My question to John would be while in the ransom note it was clearly indicated that if they call the police, their daughter will be executed. As parents, why didn't they at least hesitate or be more careful when contacting the police knowing this act will put their daughter's life in jeopardy if they truly believe that their daughter was being kidnapped? Patsy didn't even mention this when she placed the call and apparently John encouraged her to call the police right away. Most parents even go out of their way to keep quiet and get ready the money hoping for the safe return of their child.
Paint the World, They called the police without the fear of their daughter being killed because they already knew at that time of the 911 call the daughter was already dead. By them by the way.
@@bethryan9077 But you do right. 98% of people who followed this case believe the Ramsey's are guilty. They are without a doubt guilty. Patsy ruined everything with her foolish ransom note. But i will give credit where credit is due. They got away with it. Money talks.
I've always heard that if people kidnap a loved one for ransom or try to extort you, and they threaten to kill or hurt if you call the police. Then still call the police. Law enforcement is suppose to know how to deal with kidnappers & ransom threats.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. They called LE, if they hadn’t, they would have been accused of hiding something.
Boulder PD were in over their heads. First, they didn’t check the entire premises, then, They let the crime scene get contaminated, no gloves, LE, reporters traipsing in and out.
Her wording in that 911 call is really weird too.... "We've got a kidnapping."
Huh? "We've got a kidnapping?" Not "My daughter has been kidnapped!" The former sounds like you're reporting something that you're not part of. The latter sounds like it's happening to you and you need help.
So strange, I can't believe that the family went to bed on Xmas night, not setting security alarm and feeling so safe in that huge house with only 4 of them there?? Being a prominent business man, wealthy and well known!!! wouldn't you expect that he would keep his family and house secure and safe as possible??Truth will eventually come out...🤨🤔
@@bethryan9077 Sure.
@@bethryan9077 There were no problems Beth with the security system. As John pointed out in latter interviews he forgot to set it. By the way, are you a family relative??
@@bethryan9077 Your soft as a grape!!!! Your also blocked.
@BethRyan: Boulder in 1996 was not some safe bastion with no crime. There might not have been a lot of murders but there was plenty of crime and break ins. I lived in Wheat Ridge CO at the time. Statistically way safer than Boulder and we had an alarm. We always armed it at night and always checked to make sure doors and windows were closed and locked at night and when we left the house. If a intruder did this the Ramsey's allowed it by being so lax in security. They were wealthy, living near a park where a lot of homeless people hung out. They weren't' t worried about burglars? They had a minor celebrity daughter who had performed at local shopping malls. It didn't dawn on them that she could be a target from that kind of exposure? And please don't use the excuse that this was the 90's and somehow crime was much lower then. It wasn't. This wasn't the 50's.
@@lolajoker in addition..the family had been out to a party that night. So possibly they would have alarms on and windows entrances locked. Especially since they were leaving the next am to another state. Most anyone would have checked the house and been ready to move out the next day. Unless, they regularly left their house open, when out of state.
Why would a kidnapper wait until he’s THERE to write the ransom note?
@@Chad_Max Yet haphazard in not having a note prepared.
And then have to rummage through the house to find paper and pen.
Imagine sitting at a convention smiling and answering questions about your brutally murdered 6 year old daughter. The Ramsey's actions have always spoken louder than their feeble words.
He wants the crime to be solved....what other avenues does he have, other than to explore this one? He's not smiling like he's enjoying this (or smiling much at all), he seems like he's trying to remain positive and civil. Remember when Burke was smiling like an idiot during that Dr Phil interview, and every soccer mom with a People magazine subscription and terrible judgement chalked that behavior up to a clear consciousness of guilt? People often overestimate their abilities to read other peoples' behavior, as evidenced here.
If he was involved in her murder, it doesn't make any sense for him to continue speaking on this years after the public forgot about it, years after his wife died and years after the DA cleared his family. If anything under those circumstances, you'd want to lay low and stop bringing attention to the case. This was over 20 years ago, he's remarried now and nobody would think anything of him moving on with his life.
@@mattmolewski7475 which DA cleared them?
@@mattmolewski7475 It doesn't make any sense? It has been turned into a money making industry.
@@barbarasimmons4158 Ramsey’s net worth is 30 million. He doesn’t need the money.
john:::::guilty.
What criminal commits a crime in a house full of people and uses pen and paper within the house there at the crime scene? It just doesn't make any sense. I think Burke did it not knowing the severity of what he was doing and the parents tried to cover it up to protect him. To me that is the only logical explaination.
@@davidwilliams4498 LOL
Has anyone here bothered to view the documentary which depicts the efforts to figure out what happened? Henry Lee was in this, as was Mr. Clemente and Laura Roberts; other investigators with expertise participated as well. They literally built a duplicate of the inside of the home inside a huge hangar in order to try to figure out IF an intruder was able to enter,, etc., so forth. Years after JonBenet was murdered, her brother was interviewed by psychologists -- his reactions to the pineapple issue was very interesting. That ransom note was absolutely not written by anyone else than Patsy Ramsey. Also, there was an enhancement done by an audio expert and when the tape of the 9/11 call was made, you can clearly hear Patsy's voice, John's voice AND Burke's voice on that tape. The 9/11 operator was NEVER asked about that call; in fact she was warned not to say one word about that call shortly after the investigation commenced by the grand jury. This was a staged event; no one else was in that home that night other than the Ramsey family.
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I agree with everything you wrote here on JonBenet’s case. You and I seem to be on exactly the same page.
I have two questions, if you don’t mind:
1-can you tell me the name of the documentary and/or where I can find it.
2-was it Laura Roberts or a Laura Richards? Richard’s is retired, blond and-yes, British, but for some reason I want to say she somehow was on this case, if memory serves?
Guilty written all over this guy.
lol How's that?
Yes guilt!!!
Jim H. Without a doubt!!!!!!
You can see it all over his face. Especially when he was younger.
I believe burke hit jonbenet as he did before because he was jealous of jonbenet and then patsy covered it up also writing the ransom note 💯
Where is Burke now?
@@Maybe-cg2tn Burke sued Warner Spitz for defamation of character too.
@@Maybe-cg2tn i agtee with you. Me and my sisters would fight all the time. One nearly broke my finger and we locked my younger sister in a tent 😂
@@79bewareofpuppies97 Yeah he was, he was jealous because she got all the attention! I have read a lot on this case and all evidence points to burke being the one who hit her with the flashlight and patsy covering it up
Agree - this is the most likely scenario.
Why would he write $118,000 demand in note when it would point the finger at him?
Omg you took the words right out of my mouth 💯 EXACTLY 💯
I think they intended to frame the housekeeper but that fell apart quickly.
A major part of John’s dismissal of guilt is based upon the Coroner’s report? I hadn’t heard that before. It’s very interesting to see John’s turtle posture while delivering this. Anyone who wanted to do harm to JonBenet could have inflicted both traumas in succession. He just looks so sheepish and approval seeking. Thank you for sharing, Nick.
He is a strange fellow...sheepish & approval seeking. 👍
Great point. His theory hangs one that one thing. What if the coroner was wrong? The one gal sitting next to John even stated how odd it would be for those two things to be going on simultaneously.
Was there a second opinion? I’m not, WHY NOT?!
@@bzmama9893 it does sound very odd, almost ritualistic
@@bethryan9077 the strange way that she was killed sounds kinda like a ritual? Not his coming out and speaking. As far as I'm concerned...I don't blame him a bit for speaking out. Dear
@@bethryan9077 thank you for the question. I have no idea. Strangled and hit in the head.
What a narcissist
Why did the note say to expect a call at a certain time and that time came and went without the Ramsay’s being upset, asking law enforcement about it, being apprehensive? All indications are that there was no call and no mention of it after the designated call time.
You can tell by their reactions what things are important to them and what things they already knew.
I wonder if we'll ever know the truth. Precious little Jonbenet deserves justice.
Jim(the guy asking the questing here) has pretty much eluded to it being the mom because she wouldn’t stop wetting the bed. I believe it.
@@RubbleHome I am positive Patsy wrote the ransom note. As for the actual killing, I lean towards Burke.
@@TheTemptress86 foreign faction fan?
The first detective who went in the house she knew it was the dad from second one and I believe everything she says in the interview she gave ,everything she says
I don’t know but there is something strange about what both people here are saying how they are saying it what they are saying. I don’t know it’s just a feeling.
Same feeling here. Not like people who have suffered loss.Rather more like very defensive responses.
I agree
@@bettinastebner Absolutely. The question was posed by Jim Clemente. He was involved in the television documentary that resolved Burke killed his sister. Burke them to court and there is a history of animosity between them that is quite personal.
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i see he didn't really answer the question
Not at ALL and all his answers are so rehearsed I don't believe this new narrative John Ramsey trying to put out I know everyone says WHY is he still pushing he knows crime will not be solved and he moved on with his life after Patsy died remarried so now he has to keep up the facade somewhat for the new wife
John Ramsey has a new Patsy by his side, and he's not saying anything new
Curious... That the first word he says in his response is.... BURKE..?!
Right. He is deflecting right away. I've ways thought John did it.
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Because Clemente was part of a documentary that accused his son.
Ramsey is an opportunist, it's plainly evident he can, will, and has thrown anyone under the bus. Whoever is convenient at the time.
Exactly what I thought. Jim never mentioned him.
I would have hoped someone mentioned the pineapple at that moment John spoke of an intruder
The only reason that Parents would get in the way of an investigation as to who killed their child, is if their other child was the killer!! I have thought this since day 1!!!
Or them, as with the McCanns.
Or there was someone else at the house they're covering for. If sexual abuse is part of the equation, the possible scenarios expand. Rich and powerful people get involved in some weird stuff.
thats definitely not how an innocent person would respond.
He's just trying to get himself off the hook. Sorry John u are not believable!!!!
It was John.
@@bethryan9077 Some of the best criminologists in the country believe John did it. Based off of their break down of the evidence, I believe that too. I never said Burke did it. I believe John did.
@@bethryan9077 ma’am, I said what I said. You’re not going to be able to make everyone agree with you. Keep your pity and direct it toward the victim in this case who never received justice.
No man.
What John Ramsey didn’t say was that this perpetrator that was scared off by the parent actually had a belt next to the bed, so if not interrupted, Lord only knows what would’ve happened
I still believe it was a cover-up, with too much circumstantial evidence and motive. The interview with the female officer who was first on the scene will help with any conspiracies.
Yes thats right
This is all possible and probable.
@@bethryan9077 go write your own book since you seem to know it all.
@@bethryan9077 So you think it's completely ok that Ramsey moved his daughter's body to the living room and called all his friends before the police arrived? Totally destroying the crime scene for any DNA evidence that could have been found?
He literally just describedthe most likely scenario of what happened... 🙄
No one mentioned Burke my guy 😅
John has made it his life's ambition to sell the red herring theory still to this day and cash in on what ever he can.
Very interested. When was this Q and A filmed?
Why did they call everyone over for the kidnappers to see knowing they would kill the baby?
When she said the thing about sexualabuse he looked at her like 👀 stfu.. and proceeded to say " anyways" He can never just answer the question straight out its always a confusing story then no answer.
@@bethryan9077 i can say the same for u hun
Of courses they won’t admit and they are taking it to the grave they don’t want to go to jail duh
As the ransom note (ridiculously) advises: listen carefully.
For me it feels like he's lying. What reason to go to crimecon?
But then again I hope some day it will be solved.
His behavior right after the time of her death is just weird / unemotional / not cooperating.
"finding" her / inviting friends.
Also weird that Patsy never came out with her view on this case. Well, not that I know of.
It's all very sad.
Still protecting his family i.e. son???
If he's broke like she said he was, I imagine he could ask quite a hefty appearance fee. Just saying.
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@@bethryan9077 wow, so much more details. It is very confusing.
And indeed a jury did this case nothing good.
I followed "true crime rocket science " and listened to all his stories and views and opinions.
But there's so much more.
If they got DNA now, could they not find a family member of the killers?
We had here in Holland a case were a whole village had to give DNA.
@@bethryan9077 why would they take the note to the secret service for analysis? that makes zero sense.
Isn't it possible that Patsy did this and John didn't know and he's in denial? That's the most plausible explanation to me.
If so, he's certainly figured it out by now.
No because they are too coordinated and rehearsed not to both be in on it.
@@bethryan9077 My comment was in regards to the coordinated and rehearsed appearance of the Ramseys' interviews in the 10 years after the murder - not this particular video.
@@bethryan9077 That's incorrect - there were several independent handwriting analyses completed in the wake of this case and most concluded that it was 'extremely likely' that Patsy wrote the note. Also you can look at the note and the handwriting samples yourself and it is obvious that they match (despite her apparent attempts to disguise her handwriting). You don't seem to be very educated about this case - I suggest doing some research before commenting further.
@@bethryan9077 Mother of gawd. Your informational posts are LONGER than the d*** ransom note. Really? Why should we believe you?
Holy shit 😳 I wasnt expecting Jim to say that
You can't get away from the fact that Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom note. I wish Jim Clemente would give as much attention to the McCann case as he has done to the Ramsey case. Jim appears to have just watched the Netflix nonsense and then believed he knew the Madeleine McCann case.
I don't rate his work on WM3 or Amanda Knox very highly.
Does anyone know when this panel/interview happened? I find it interesting that John says the police theory is that Burke did it.... I've always been under the impression the police were not looking at Burke and was an internet theory.
Dude straight up trolled him then had to sit through his uncomfortable diverting lie. That was rough.
My condolences , I'm so sorry for the loss of Jon Benet. I'm so sorry for the loss of Patsy. I can't imagine the horror. God bless you .
Why didn’t he bring up the pineapple? She has pineapple in her stomach and a bowl of it was found on the table. He and patsy say they knew nothing about her eating pineapple
Did he have a house full of arch's and squares first ? Or a pilot with that name? How about the faces on the rug, walls,trunk,crowns, bed 👀,and a skull on the Christmas tree in her room with a blur wreck (tangle)?
He changes the topic when they bring up the SA of his daughter by saying “well anyway…”
Cuz it didn't happened.
@@usagi_t the autopsy says she was sexually assaulted prior to her death..it was happening before the day she died. know the case before commenting
The problem with it being an intruder is there is no sign of where they entered. The broken window was dismissed due to the cobwebs being in tact in the corner of the window.
I have to wonder if her head was split open on the cement in the room where she was found.
Not according to the biggest theorists Lou Smit who was hired on to push the intruder theory, the same man that interagated John.
@@bethryan9077 girl you are literally everywhere I go every video I watch about this case give it a rest
@@jamesradskijr.9745 yes, John dismissed that window himself, day of. He only started pointing at the window when Smitt later said that it was most likely the entry point.
killer could have entered earlier left through the door & had a key.
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Lou Smit was too biased. He just couldn't imagine that a "God fearing couple" like the Ramsay's could be involved. When I saw him say that on video, I was like "this guy isn't credible.... he's just making noise and carrying water for the Ramsay's."
Hmmm… the police that investigated the case might have been on to something with that theory. 🤔 I guess we’ll never know exactly. Poor little girl.
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Maybe Jim asked it in part to see if there were deceptive verbal and nonverbal behaviors
Why would anyone go to the trouble of going into that confined space to break into the small basement window when they could stand on that grate and break into a much larger window?
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Patsy did it
This guy will face judgement
Patsy had DID, dissociative identity disorder, imo. She is responsible for Jonbenet's death, imo
The way he said “anyways” after his wife explained what happened with the coroner. He’s just skirting around the question.
He said the ransom note was written beforehand on Patsy’s stationery. Come on.
Why is he all of a sudden deciding to come out and help. He didn't care when she died!!! He's creepy!!!
Has anyone ever posed the theory of ‘play’ between j and b to John Ramsey? Play that accidentally resulted in tragedy?
The part where the DNA is a tangled mess and essentially useless, if you follow all the circumstancial evidence it points to the Ramsey's covering up for Burke, there's very very little evidence regarding an intruder, they're relying on unreliable DNA evidence.
Why not bring up her body for more answers, she's not resting intill you find the killer.
No way you never saw those faces on your chairs, rugs, trees and he trunk. You knew this was there , you just been getting all the soft questions.
John, if Burke didn't do it, just say Patsy did, and be done.
Body language!!
The guy gets up in front of a lot of people, doesn't duck yet another thinly veiled accusation by a law enforcement type, and still gets hammered for how he answers, or his body language. This was either a "brilliant family conspiracy + completely inept law enforcement" or a "psychopath killed a little girl" case. With law enforcement clinging on to the "it never happened this way before" mindset, as if a psychopath would care.
If there is ever proof beyond a reasonable doubt that an intruder killer this girl, I trust there will be millions of apologies given to this family.
Are you aware of how the Grand Jury voted after both sides presented their evidence? And that the contents of the unsigned indictments were suppressed for 15 years?
@@TCRS Yes.....it's a good thing for that community that the Prosecutor took a dive. Regardless of whether that was a political move or not, there never would have been a conviction. It would have been an abysmal failure, and a circus. Rather like the Morphew case in Colorado became before the dismissal.
I can see a parent participating in a cover up for, or even losing it and participating in, the death of a child that happened due to head trauma. Not strangling though, either to ensure death or for staging. No...not strangling.
@@TCRS Grand Juries in the US don't hear both sides, only the prosecution side, we have a saying here that a grand jury can indict a "ham sandwich", just fyi, not that I think that indictment wasn't warranted,..
@@GirlFriday68 That's true, but in *this* case both sides presented their evidence, including (intruder theorist) Det. Lou Smit.
Patsy wrote the note and ate the pineapple.
I DON'T KNOW HIS FINANCIAL SITUATION TODAY BUT WONDER IF HE ATTENDS CRIMECON SUPPORTS THE BOOKS ETC POSSIBLY FOR MONEY. INCOME AND MAYBE THE HOPE THAT HER MURDERER WILL SHOW UP AT INE OF THESE EVENTS OR HE WILL GET A TIP OR SUCH. THANKS
What about the pineapple ???
JR is my favorite narcissist and criminal. He’s so good at his craft.
It was a good question. I thought about what I'd say here if i was John. Ultimately, there is really just one honest answer i can think of from john prespective ( if he is innocent).. that is - " I guess there has to be that ONE instance out of thousands where a case like this turned out the way it did statistically".
He did it
People been accusing this man and Patsy fir decades and I think it’s despicable. I watched so many interviews of them and not once did they look like they’d be capable of such evil act. Someone killed their child,someone that hated them with passion for some reason. Leave the man alone and atop acting like you care more about someone else’s child than her parents. If they did it they’d be in prison long time ago. NO ONE could get away with that and act 20+ years. This is completely unheard of and total nonsense. It’s disgusting that you people convicted this man of killing his own child. Just think how you would feel…
Burke did it & the parents covered.
Hmmmmm very telling. Instead of immediately answering well, we didnt do it, he goes on about WHY it couldn’t have happened. Never says it didnt happen. Firmly believe they had a very, very, very troubled 3 days from being 10 years old boy. Who was very jealous of his sister, and had known bed wetting AS did sister, anger issues, and there is indication of sexual abuse. I think something happened Christmas night that he flew into a rage and the rest is history. He says “John Douglas says a note like that couldnt have been written after a crime like that. Extremely bizarre statement from an innocent person. He simply cant say “we didnt do it”
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Exactly
Exactly - there's no emotional response and strong denial - it's all rehearsed.
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@@bethryan9077 Proven innocent? lol How exactly do you think that they were 'proven' innocent? I am questioning what is being falsely presented as the truth, given an analysis of the evidence in the case as well as the behavior of those involved. You are taking their claims of innocence at face value without questioning them, so I would say you are the one who is brainwashed. If you look at all of the evidence in the case as well as the behavior of the parents during the interviews the inescapable conclusion is that they are lying, staged the intruder scenario and know exactly who the murderer is.
@@bethryan9077 Oh I understand the word perfectly well. My questions is 'how' exactly, in your mind, were they proven innocent and by whom? Did you just accept this claim at face value without objective, critical analysis? What is it, in your mind, that overcomes the overwhelming evidence against them and 'exonerates' them? I think you are commenting without having a good understanding of the case and the evidence involved.
Does anyone know anymore about jonbenet photographer and his prison sentence over child porn?
The detective at the autopsy said she felt there was evidence of sustained sexual abuse... Which most people pointed to the father - but perhaps it was a separate issue to her death in the home?
Imo bdi and parents covered for him we already know what the 4 pgs from indictments were, can you imagine what else is in the other pgs 😔
Who is this lady and WHY did she interrupt him? omg, ughhh. Was this Vegas? I think I popped in for a second. Anyone invested in this case is an amazing mind. I can't handle the amount of information at this point. I'm just two years older than Jon Benet Ramsey so it's been a part of my entire life. Truly, if she had lived, we would likely hear about her just as much, if not more. Still breaks my heart; she was precious.
And that’s exactly what happened
What you got to say about this ? Ex plane yourself
He thinks he got away with it, but God knows
The sexual molestation is brought up by the host, but John doesnt want to mention it. This means if no intruder, then John has committed a crime and no accident occurred.