Tom you really are a perfect match for Colin, so it's fate that you would know each other and get on. You have that cheeky exuberance and are a natural in front of the camera, and I know how hard that is for most people. So keep the videos coming, and we'll all keep watching them.
Not all heroes wear capes. Some wear faded JCB hoodies 😁😁 Sheeet thats a big hole. Bet that made a right racket. Gonna be painfull on the wallet too 🙈🙈
Dam that hitch up was well too smooth, I aspire to come to such a level, not the easiest nowadays when u have to lean half way way out the back window to see and then ur new tractors will go in to park as safety bc ur not on the seat🤣
So I am not familiar with this new of equipment but you mentioned that the "Front axle seized up and the drive shaft then broke destroying the oil pan and everything else. If the front axle seized up them front wheel and tires seemed to be rolling fine getting it on and off the trailer. Mabe I am just misunderstanding your terminology
Well handy that trailer, I hope they managed to get all that mess sorted. Could you let me know. I was driving a 18t flatbed back to the yard when I heard a steady ryhmic banging from the rear axle. I jumped out of the cab torch in hand fearing the worse. I checked the props, centre bearing and all that I could prod and point at so to speak. Turned out to be a house brick wedged between the near side dual tyres. Did sound bad from inside the cab. Broke it up with a few angry taps with a hammer and was then on my merry way....
I drive a fendt 822 for work and have had many 4wd issues, if any hydraulic or electrical issues occur the tractor defaults to 4wd no matter what speed your doing, if you don’t have your music blaring you can hear the front axle whining at high speeds, I’d say something similar happened here, something as simple as a solenoid failing can lead to this if not noticed in time.
@@bekabeka71 yeah for sure bud, it’s not a bad thing about defaulting to 4wd, because if it happens in a wet muddy paddock you can at least get the tractor out with less chance of getting stuck. But with how much modern tractors are aimed at being able to do road work more efficiently with higher road speeds it’s definitely a bad thing, like once upon a time 40kmh was considered a fast tractor and at that speed this kind of damage may not have happened, now 50-60kmh is a more standard speed and that can be the difference between a minor fix or catastrophic failure we saw here.
We had someone do that in our 399 one silage time, freewheeling down hill with it in 4wd, luckily the front linkage brackets stopped the propshaft doing too much damage.
This happened to me with the very first 4wd MF 590 more or less the exact same, 4wd shaft broke under the sump, smashing the engine sump, losing all the engine oil out on the the road, it also sheared the rear gearbox bearing off the gearbox end clean off, this was back in 1979/1980, no 60 mph back then, not even 25 mph, it took MF dealer 6 months to repair the new 590, came to light, the tractor didnt have a centre shaft mounted bearing, shaft started to vibrate violently & got of shape. All MF 4wd tractors were never released until they were sorted, my boss blamed me for the horrendous damage to his new tractor, MF supply'd him with a brand new 590 4WD multi, but with a bearing mid mounted shaft, MF told him it was their fault & not mine for the damage, but I never got an apology off him, I left shortly after. (I was towing a Grimme 2 row harvester, one of the first, I modified it for a good custermer of his that wanted a bagging platform on, Grimme said it would bust on the drawbar area, it never did, he came crawling back for me to take job back, I refused his offer)
Is there any point in putting a winch on the Bailey trailer deck like the tow trucks have? Use dyneema rope on the winch and give the pusher tractor an assist.
As far as I'm aware most 4wd tractors kick into 4wd under breaking. The speeds they do now I imagine a big load has gone through the front axle somewhere causing it to lock up.
I drive a fendt 822 for work and have had many 4wd issues, if any hydraulic or electrical issues occur the tractor defaults to 4wd no matter what speed your doing, if you don’t have your music blaring you can hear the front axle whining at high speeds, I’d say something similar happened here, something as simple as a solenoid failing can lead to this if not noticed in time.
Maybe Grab 3 or 4 Hi Viz Vests for those Night time jobs - keep yurselves seen n safe buddy. A couple o Head band Torches hanging round the Shifter can come in real handy also
Tom, That 8S is one sweet tractor! In your experiences in farming, what crop/s appear to be the most profitable? You shall have a fine night, good sir.
No big deal, there are lots of tractors nowadays that go 50, 60 or even 70km/h. Usually much more of a problen with trailer axles not rated for those speeds.
4wd is always disabled above 25 km/h, no matter what. Just while braking the braking force will get delivered via the prop shaft if this model still got the front brake at the prop shaft. We will probably never hear, what happened... sadly.
Not exactly a shining endorsement of Agco, eh? With a tractor that expensive, you'd expect that stupid stuff like this wouldn't happen. Massey is part of Agco as well. Be worried... Be very worried... lol They make New Holland look good, and that's *really* saying something.
I’ve ran older tractors all my life, when I saw that moveable hitch and how slick that was to hook up the trailer the first words out of my mouth were “F*** you” awesome video man
We had a pair of Massy Ferguson 135s on our 30 acre market garden smallholding. One of my brothers was in charge of one of them, and it is claimed - but I suspect unfairly - that he forgot to put oil in it, and we had conrods and bits of piston poking out of the side of the engine block. I remember our first tractor was one of those Pertrol/TVO (Tractor Vaporising Oil or paraffin, I believe). You started it on petrol, and switched to the much cheaper TVO when it was warm. I'm trying to put a date on it, and I think it had to be in the 1950s.
the prop shaft is fully covered below the tractor and there are no greasing nippled at that shaft. They use so called lifetime greasing. Even if we all know, that this is not true at all.
@@Pulse87dotca its not mechanical linked at all in a tractor. The steering is full hydraulic and the orbitrol will pump the oil, you have a ton of load at the steering wheel to steer it without power "assist" from the hydraulic pump. As long as its rolling, its fairly possible to steer but hard work.
@@daolinhai Maybe it is that way in some tractors, especially European ones, but not all. Case, Leyland, and IH all had mechanical linkage with power assist. Fendt may be totally different, as I haven't seen one to know.
Change your oil based on engine hours not miles. You listed the miles the post so i know you shouldn't be operating equipment. Miles are for the axes and wheels.
Would it be standard operating practice from a Health and Safety point of view, to allow live traffic to flow past in very close proximity, just at the most dangerous point of the loading procedure? If that bar connecting the two tractors fails as the Fendt is being pushed up the ramp, you have a very heavy unmanned tractor that can easily roll out into live traffic, and I'll leave the rest up to your imagination. Leaving aside Chapter 8 or H&S, surely it's just common sense that you don't place unsuspecting members of the public in danger due to your actions? I appreciate that you weren't necessarily the one in charge of Traffic Management at the location, but you could have insisted on all traffic being stopped for the two minutes it took to load the Fendt? Query comes from a place of genuine concern - not trying to be a pedantic tosser or troll.
Tom you really are a perfect match for Colin, so it's fate that you would know each other and get on. You have that cheeky exuberance and are a natural in front of the camera, and I know how hard that is for most people. So keep the videos coming, and we'll all keep watching them.
Kudos to whoever made that push bar, great bit of welding.
Love how
Uncle Massey and little brother valtra
Help
Grandfather Fendt
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Not all heroes wear capes. Some wear faded JCB hoodies 😁😁 Sheeet thats a big hole. Bet that made a right racket. Gonna be painfull on the wallet too 🙈🙈
Great rescue Tom I wouldn't want that repair bill 😮😮😢😢
Dam that hitch up was well too smooth, I aspire to come to such a level, not the easiest nowadays when u have to lean half way way out the back window to see and then ur new tractors will go in to park as safety bc ur not on the seat🤣
Was the engine shut off in time? I’d imagine
May be, but also may be damage from metal shards being caught in places while it was still spinning.
That bar doing the pushing up the bed is the real MVP here , obviously after you Tom :D
Wow, I have never seen this kind of damage 😮😮😮
So I am not familiar with this new of equipment but you mentioned that the "Front axle seized up and the drive shaft then broke destroying the oil pan and everything else. If the front axle seized up them front wheel and tires seemed to be rolling fine getting it on and off the trailer. Mabe I am just misunderstanding your terminology
Well handy that trailer, I hope they managed to get all that mess sorted. Could you let me know. I was driving a 18t flatbed back to the yard when I heard a steady ryhmic banging from the rear axle. I jumped out of the cab torch in hand fearing the worse. I checked the props, centre bearing and all that I could prod and point at so to speak. Turned out to be a house brick wedged between the near side dual tyres. Did sound bad from inside the cab. Broke it up with a few angry taps with a hammer and was then on my merry way....
Tom Lamb recoveries to the rescue!
' Time for new engine.
" Deep pocket.
I drive a fendt 822 for work and have had many 4wd issues, if any hydraulic or electrical issues occur the tractor defaults to 4wd no matter what speed your doing, if you don’t have your music blaring you can hear the front axle whining at high speeds, I’d say something similar happened here, something as simple as a solenoid failing can lead to this if not noticed in time.
That’s the butter reality of expensive and modern tractors
@@bekabeka71 yeah for sure bud, it’s not a bad thing about defaulting to 4wd, because if it happens in a wet muddy paddock you can at least get the tractor out with less chance of getting stuck. But with how much modern tractors are aimed at being able to do road work more efficiently with higher road speeds it’s definitely a bad thing, like once upon a time 40kmh was considered a fast tractor and at that speed this kind of damage may not have happened, now 50-60kmh is a more standard speed and that can be the difference between a minor fix or catastrophic failure we saw here.
More stuff like this tom lad 😁 Keep it coming 👍
Drifting cars have metallic loop at both ends of the shaft to catch it if I fails. Not a bad idea for a tractor too.
My case ih jx90 has something like that and some John deeres to
I think it's time to watch the drag racing guys. Two simple cardan rings had saved the owner a great deal of mone
Some newest Fendt’s have cardan protection tube, cardan shaft is in that tube which is fixed.
We had someone do that in our 399 one silage time, freewheeling down hill with it in 4wd, luckily the front linkage brackets stopped the propshaft doing too much damage.
This happened to me with the very first 4wd MF 590 more or less the exact same, 4wd shaft broke under the sump, smashing the engine sump, losing all the engine oil out on the the road, it also sheared the rear gearbox bearing off the gearbox end clean off, this was back in 1979/1980, no 60 mph back then, not even 25 mph, it took MF dealer 6 months to repair the new 590, came to light, the tractor didnt have a centre shaft mounted bearing, shaft started to vibrate violently & got of shape. All MF 4wd tractors were never released until they were sorted, my boss blamed me for the horrendous damage to his new tractor, MF supply'd him with a brand new 590 4WD multi, but with a bearing mid mounted shaft, MF told him it was their fault & not mine for the damage, but I never got an apology off him, I left shortly after. (I was towing a Grimme 2 row harvester, one of the first, I modified it for a good custermer of his that wanted a bagging platform on, Grimme said it would bust on the drawbar area, it never did, he came crawling back for me to take job back, I refused his offer)
Typical fendt quality kubota number 1
That looks expensive.
Oh that one sick tractor. If she not red ❤️ leave her in the shed .
Is there any point in putting a winch on the Bailey trailer deck like the tow trucks have? Use dyneema rope on the winch and give the pusher tractor an assist.
That Cardin shaft hasn't even got a centre bar!
What was it doing in 4WD?
As far as I'm aware most 4wd tractors kick into 4wd under breaking. The speeds they do now I imagine a big load has gone through the front axle somewhere causing it to lock up.
Q] What was it doing in 4WD🤔?
A] Badly, very very badly 😥 😔 ⚰
@@lukepalmer2126 100% correct.
If the front wheels are turning, the front drive shaft is turning weather it’s in 4WD or not, no free wheeling hubs on a tractor!
I drive a fendt 822 for work and have had many 4wd issues, if any hydraulic or electrical issues occur the tractor defaults to 4wd no matter what speed your doing, if you don’t have your music blaring you can hear the front axle whining at high speeds, I’d say something similar happened here, something as simple as a solenoid failing can lead to this if not noticed in time.
A smashing time for a rather bent Fendt!
Looks like AGCO meetup :D
Interesting what caused that or was it general prop failure?
That crankshaft seeing that crankshaft was like holy crap
tom must be in the dna of the lambs iam paul lamb from the north west of england not from farming. from hgv recovery. keep up the good vids
There are several families named Lamb here in the American Midwest (Iowa). Good, hard-working folks they are, too!
Hello Camshaft, Hello prop shaft, I haven't seen you before
At least it wasn’t a fergie, I couldn’t stand that.
Seems nothing left of the sump - did it completely shatter into pieces and fall away? Odd?
Cast alloy sump, not steel. Fairly thick, 5-10mm. Good sump, not designed to take that kind of impact!
Maybe Grab 3 or 4 Hi Viz Vests for those Night time jobs - keep yurselves seen n safe buddy.
A couple o Head band Torches hanging round the Shifter can come in real handy also
Wonder if he was doing 65k in 4wd
Tom,
That 8S is one sweet tractor!
In your experiences in farming, what crop/s appear to be the most profitable?
You shall have a fine night, good sir.
All crops can change each year
Imagine if the police we're involved, road closed and none of that would be moving for hours 😂much better to handle it yourselves!
She’s filthy under there. And that 8s ❤
Going to take a bit of sorting out wonder if the engine is OK.
Lack of oil/grease on that bearing!
No police in attendance to control traffic I see, too busy drinking tea and eating kebabs
Did it get a hard life? Looks like it didn't get much maintenance.. some amount of damage wow..
Is a bad day with traktor. Sweden
So how much was the repair bill?
on any sophisticated piece of machinery you have to look at your levels minimum once a month , its to costly to rely on lazyness
4wd engaged and a big trailer?
Free wheeling and Selected a Gear that is why and would have had the brakes on So in 4x4 Game Over 😂🙈🥵 Top of the Class 😅
Farmer Tom Lamb helping turn the internet up to 11. 👍
2 Agcos rescuing an Agco effectively.
That's why you don't drive with 4wd on the road...
Great video!
I'd ask Santa for a winch for the trailer.
Lockers still on when driving on the road?
My little MF 135 couldnt fit a trailor that quick LOL
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And you thought you had problems with the newhollands 🤣. Should have bought the Deere 😂
A perfect lesson on why if you want to go over 40k you need a fastrac, not a fent
Ur talking 💩
Why?
@@bekabeka71 it's not suitable for going so fast
For a start no suspicion
fastracs have propshafts too...
Heck! Busy road
In the US a 300 hp fendt is only a couple thousand dollars more than a Newholland t8. I don’t see the hype of them.
I've got a question, totally diffrent, where can i order such plugs for air breaks? Never seen such, and the ones we use in Poland drives me nuts.
They are standard in the uk maybe agri link
wrong tires ?
Teamwork
Przyjechał już do Polski????
What a concept. Lighting and brakes on large towed equipment…🙄
Men gets in with shoes 😂 my lord not your own I guess
Winch on the trailer would be easier and safer
Ooh its Th Driveschafts gone!!!!!!!!!!
Were the tyres even rated for that speed?
No big deal, there are lots of tractors nowadays that go 50, 60 or even 70km/h. Usually much more of a problen with trailer axles not rated for those speeds.
Job well done 👍 bet fendt will pass blame back to farmer there good with excuses
Don't they all no mater of colour?
@@velimircuvrk1640correct sir.
40kmh model or frontweel drive on?
4wd is always disabled above 25 km/h, no matter what. Just while braking the braking force will get delivered via the prop shaft if this model still got the front brake at the prop shaft. We will probably never hear, what happened... sadly.
Not exactly a shining endorsement of Agco, eh? With a tractor that expensive, you'd expect that stupid stuff like this wouldn't happen. Massey is part of Agco as well. Be worried... Be very worried... lol They make New Holland look good, and that's *really* saying something.
Too bad all the Pringles fell out the tube
What they Massey 8s like?
Get on well with them
Thanks are they comfortable and what is performance like?@@Tomlamb980
ouch!
Tremendous Force she broke with don’t ya know! 👍
Is that road connected between 2 capitals??
Blew a new Massey 8s with 80 hrs the other month
Saying that u prob heard about it, seeing your local
deport who ever did this
Ouch that's gonna be a £20k repair?
More likely that it's completely written off.
@@1255XL yeah doubt a dealer would stand behind a repair with any less than engine swop?
Probably a write off
I’ve ran older tractors all my life, when I saw that moveable hitch and how slick that was to hook up the trailer the first words out of my mouth were “F*** you” awesome video man
We had a pair of Massy Ferguson 135s on our 30 acre market garden smallholding. One of my brothers was in charge of one of them, and it is claimed - but I suspect unfairly - that he forgot to put oil in it, and we had conrods and bits of piston poking out of the side of the engine block. I remember our first tractor was one of those Pertrol/TVO (Tractor Vaporising Oil or paraffin, I believe). You started it on petrol, and switched to the much cheaper TVO when it was warm. I'm trying to put a date on it, and I think it had to be in the 1950s.
Instructions say to grease the joints every use. If you did that. You would of seen lose bolts or other issues.
Much easier to see the problem now.
He greased his knees and elbows daily, he said.
the prop shaft is fully covered below the tractor and there are no greasing nippled at that shaft. They use so called lifetime greasing. Even if we all know, that this is not true at all.
Hollow prop shaft! some of those tractors cost 250,000 pound
should got a same
but how did the steering work with the engine off?
Mechanical linkage, just like on a car. The power assist is just that: power *assist*. Not "Power do-it-all-for-you".
@@Pulse87dotca oohh ok, i get it
@@Pulse87dotca its not mechanical linked at all in a tractor. The steering is full hydraulic and the orbitrol will pump the oil, you have a ton of load at the steering wheel to steer it without power "assist" from the hydraulic pump. As long as its rolling, its fairly possible to steer but hard work.
@@daolinhai Maybe it is that way in some tractors, especially European ones, but not all. Case, Leyland, and IH all had mechanical linkage with power assist. Fendt may be totally different, as I haven't seen one to know.
@ritch5539 Old enough to not have computers all over the place.
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I will keep my American made caseih thankyou.
Don't know of a brand that doesn't break down.
Change your oil based on engine hours not miles. You listed the miles the post so i know you shouldn't be operating equipment. Miles are for the axes and wheels.
German Engineering Once Again At it Best,Buy British Tractors instead of Overpriced Junk
4wd shafts break on British tractors too.
Which british tractors would you be talking about?
@@Falconavich he's probably talking about Land Rover
@@Falconavich JCB Fastrac?
@@daratheprofessional1827 With its sisu engine(finland) and fendt gearbox? I guess assembled in Britain would be accurate, nothing more!
Would it be standard operating practice from a Health and Safety point of view, to allow live traffic to flow past in very close proximity, just at the most dangerous point of the loading procedure? If that bar connecting the two tractors fails as the Fendt is being pushed up the ramp, you have a very heavy unmanned tractor that can easily roll out into live traffic, and I'll leave the rest up to your imagination. Leaving aside Chapter 8 or H&S, surely it's just common sense that you don't place unsuspecting members of the public in danger due to your actions? I appreciate that you weren't necessarily the one in charge of Traffic Management at the location, but you could have insisted on all traffic being stopped for the two minutes it took to load the Fendt? Query comes from a place of genuine concern - not trying to be a pedantic tosser or troll.
If you look carefully both tractors have operators in them.
How do think the Fendt is being steered? It’s clear it’s manned.
@@Tomlamb980 Fair enough, if you think that was a safe operation, then carry on.
Try as much as you like, you definitely are! 😂
If the bar failed it would’ve been parked in the arse of the valtra it was perfectly safe
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