I mean, even when Rewritten fills in those cut corners, people still complain. They updated BBHQ, but people complain that it takes too long to run across.
I loved this video! You should do a rant about the people on toontown who are so rude to lower toons and feel so elite in comparison. I haaaate seeing that on the game because it turns people away from it. I want MORE people to play, not less!
Most low toons are terrible at the game somehow, despite how simple it is, and they don't train their gags. I'm not rude in pushing them away, but that's the main reason they are pushed away. If I see a low toon, though, who has level 5+ gags in all tracks, though, and they are good in battle, then I will bring them along, cause they clearly know what they're doing.
It's alright to push them away if they try to access a facility/the VP way too early, but leaving the in the elevator is not okay, period. I was gonna do a VP with my old friend, and we were both ready. She was a higher laff than me and, of course, I got thrown into the elevator without being able to leave. I remember being around 60 or 70 laff at the time since she was always a little bit higher than me. Long story short I DCed but either way they were still being a prick. It's alright to tell low toons off for their gags and laff, but for he love of all that is good don't be a dick and try to green them unless they're: A. Greening others B. Putting their training before killing all the cogs in the most efficient way and refuse to stop Or C. Refuse to listen to any higher toons and always keep going for their own, ineffective strategies, and keep doing so regardless of what other toons tell them to do Otherwise please don't be a dick and just tell them to stop. Even if they keep saying "pls inv" that doesn't mean you have the right to be a prick.
Kind of unrelated to the video except for the fact that this was a missed opportunity but I think a cell shaded style would've suited the whole experience better, giving it that toony, comical style that it's trying to go for. The black soft shading of the toons throw me off these days when I recently became accustomed to Jet Set Radio (my bias comes from here) which used the cell shading to add to the wackiness and chaos of Tokyo. It was a very animated experience. The cell shaded style could be used to make Toontown really pop and seem like the tooniest of all places. You could have bold black outlines around the toons, sorta bringing emphasis to them, strong shadows in different areas in Toontown (dark shadows and only streetlights and moonlight illuminating Donald's Dreamland...just imagine that.), colors popping up on toons, clear distinction between cogs and toons possibly...exaggerated in-game cinematics with characters in locomotions...just had to get that off my chest. HUGE MISSED OPPORTUNITY
That Robitussin comment is so hilarious when you just know a little extra. I would GLADLY drink an ENTIRE bottle of Robitussin on the spot! No downsides!
The new Toontown servers could definitely modify the Beancounter and the Downsizer. I do not know much about coding, but I'm betting that simply changing colors of a model isn't too hard. the Beancounter to be a more recognizable cash-bot pale blue color. Then change the downsizer to be slightly more skin-toned, in order to match its pink hands and the other skin colored boss bots.
Loopy, I never thought of it that way. I actually never got past firehouse and 60 laff on TTO, so I didn't understand the whole cashbot, lawbot, and bossbot suits (thanks for teaching me coach Z.) Now that I am more experienced, I realize how much better the game could have really been.
Liked and subscribed. Recently started playing toontown corporate clash. I played tto back in 2003. I started not long before the Sellbot VP came out. Been playing off and on ever since. Played ttr with the beta key and have a 120+ laugh toon on there. Ttr is better than tto but they don’t have much new content. Ttcc is any OG tt player’s wet dream, it has tons of amazing new content and I cannot see myself ever getting tired of it. Thank you so much and thank you to the ttcc staff.
Not only is the fog system unrealistic, it has caused a lot of glitches in the past where you actually have to repeatedly exit* the area or go in shops in order to load it properly.
I didn't say remove the loading screen, I mean use the Panda3D's in-built Camera Culling system to hide polygons out of view rather than having the street load in chunks. Removing the loading screen probably would be easier actually, as some servers already do that.
Don't think you knew this at the time but uhh... Chugging a whole bottle of Robitussin will get you super high, it's often refered to as "Robowalking" the dxm in it gives you an extreme euphoria, sometimes even a visual trip.
I think I found the difference between the Bean Counter and the Downsizer. The eyebrows. Being an animator, I think I can fix some things when I animate Toontown stories.
MMOs tend to reuse models a lot. It's easier to re color or resize a enemy then to make a new one. That would be lazy in a normal game (they do it in normal games anyway but whatever) but in an mmo it makes more sense. It's still cutting corners though
I wish the 3 playgrounds were here. The game can be super fast... especially if you have high toon friends or multitoon. Having many playgrounds to go through and many tasks that help strengthen your toon could give more playability with longer playthroughs. I’m sad with all the missing content. But I still wouldn’t trade ToonTown for Club Penguin like Disney did. Now do they even have any game running?
as for animations and models, i wonder if it actually optimizes the game to reuse assets or if its really just copy paste and would take the same mount of space in the game either way
It definitely is a good way to optimize efficiency and space. That said, it's definitely a product of it's time. Nowadays computers are so capable that I think it's not very excusable to cut corners as blatantly as TTO did.
not all of this is toontown's fault though, a lot of it is down to when toontown came out when internet speed was so limited, any save counted. that's why they reuse cog heads and have to cut corners.
I cannot believe they cut these corners. The ideas they scrapped were great. And it could’ve done better if Disney never shut it down. Still sad and now a little triggered about that.
Well, I don't exactly agree that they were cutting corners because they we're lazy or something, but keep in mind when this game was developed there were zero MMOs that were targeted for family. Disney did not want to invest much into Toontown, so that means they had a low budget for staff, art, marketing, etc. There were about 5 or 6 developers working on the game engine AND the game at once. They had to design and write a game engine, server infrastructure, and a whole MMO that could handle millions of players in about 5 years. Most if not all of these developers had no experience in the game development/design industry, so they had to be creative. However, once the game blew up and they were getting a ton of profit, I do think they were being lazy and not doing anything, and eventually people got bored, game was being exploited (they did nothing about it) , so they just shut it down.
This aorta relates to those lazy TH-camrs that posts the same thumbnail style for every video and they wouldn't come up with new jokes for any part of that video. All it needs is a little more effort and maybe they could gain subscribers and views.
It so sad to see what Toontown COULD BE but it was just an after thought
I mean, even when Rewritten fills in those cut corners, people still complain. They updated BBHQ, but people complain that it takes too long to run across.
It only takes like a minute at most to run across that section, too, which IIRC isn't that much longer from the original.
I want thoes extra three playgrounds
The Year is 2003: Disney decides to cut more corners by removing toons and gameplay. Its now a viewing experience.
Elusivegoldendragon Toontown: The Movie
It's just a PowerPoint slideshow of each of the playgrounds and streets
deffdefying no not even just a PowerPoint of blackness
I loved this video! You should do a rant about the people on toontown who are so rude to lower toons and feel so elite in comparison. I haaaate seeing that on the game because it turns people away from it. I want MORE people to play, not less!
So, so true... please... low laff lives matter!!
And don’t hate kids
It was made for kid
Most low toons are terrible at the game somehow, despite how simple it is, and they don't train their gags. I'm not rude in pushing them away, but that's the main reason they are pushed away. If I see a low toon, though, who has level 5+ gags in all tracks, though, and they are good in battle, then I will bring them along, cause they clearly know what they're doing.
It's alright to push them away if they try to access a facility/the VP way too early, but leaving the in the elevator is not okay, period.
I was gonna do a VP with my old friend, and we were both ready. She was a higher laff than me and, of course, I got thrown into the elevator without being able to leave. I remember being around 60 or 70 laff at the time since she was always a little bit higher than me. Long story short I DCed but either way they were still being a prick.
It's alright to tell low toons off for their gags and laff, but for he love of all that is good don't be a dick and try to green them unless they're:
A. Greening others
B. Putting their training before killing all the cogs in the most efficient way and refuse to stop
Or C. Refuse to listen to any higher toons and always keep going for their own, ineffective strategies, and keep doing so regardless of what other toons tell them to do
Otherwise please don't be a dick and just tell them to stop. Even if they keep saying "pls inv" that doesn't mean you have the right to be a prick.
In TTO, it was completely reversed. It's sad.
Here's a rant idea
Not getting an all star fish
the pain of nor getting a devil ray when your friend has a devil ray and a holy mackrel
Kind of unrelated to the video except for the fact that this was a missed opportunity but I think a cell shaded style would've suited the whole experience better, giving it that toony, comical style that it's trying to go for. The black soft shading of the toons throw me off these days when I recently became accustomed to Jet Set Radio (my bias comes from here) which used the cell shading to add to the wackiness and chaos of Tokyo. It was a very animated experience.
The cell shaded style could be used to make Toontown really pop and seem like the tooniest of all places. You could have bold black outlines around the toons, sorta bringing emphasis to them, strong shadows in different areas in Toontown (dark shadows and only streetlights and moonlight illuminating Donald's Dreamland...just imagine that.), colors popping up on toons, clear distinction between cogs and toons possibly...exaggerated in-game cinematics with characters in locomotions...just had to get that off my chest. HUGE MISSED OPPORTUNITY
Toontown is just a SCHELL of what it used to be (sorry not sorry)
Skelecog lmfaoo dude
@@stratomarten Ummm you said the word instead of lmho HOW WHAT HAS THIS WORLD BECOME
Strato why are u
Just wanted to say thanks for making youtube videos , you clearly put lots of time and effort into them and it shows.
Thank you for the support soymilk :)
That Robitussin comment is so hilarious when you just know a little extra. I would GLADLY drink an ENTIRE bottle of Robitussin on the spot! No downsides!
🙈
Maybe the TTR team could add what was promised, but it IS the TTR team.
Your improv sounded like the dialog on Rick and Morty
That's how my improv tends to go lol. Like Rick going off on his idea
What's the difference between a glad handler, yesman, and Mr. Hollywood?
No really, what?
body
name
Body shape.
Bot type
Head shape
god challenge right is a Bean Couter left is a Downsizer
Best episode of Toontown Rants I've ever seen.
The new Toontown servers could definitely modify the Beancounter and the Downsizer. I do not know much about coding, but I'm betting that simply changing colors of a model isn't too hard.
the Beancounter to be a more recognizable cash-bot pale blue color.
Then change the downsizer to be slightly more skin-toned, in order to match its pink hands and the other skin colored boss bots.
Loopy Dreams: Jesse Schell Making a Pepperoni Pizza
mmmmm spicy
Loopy, I never thought of it that way. I actually never got past firehouse and 60 laff on TTO, so I didn't understand the whole cashbot, lawbot, and bossbot suits (thanks for teaching me coach Z.) Now that I am more experienced, I realize how much better the game could have really been.
Liked and subscribed. Recently started playing toontown corporate clash. I played tto back in 2003. I started not long before the Sellbot VP came out. Been playing off and on ever since. Played ttr with the beta key and have a 120+ laugh toon on there. Ttr is better than tto but they don’t have much new content. Ttcc is any OG tt player’s wet dream, it has tons of amazing new content and I cannot see myself ever getting tired of it. Thank you so much and thank you to the ttcc staff.
I’m a bit newer to ToonTown so I’m glad your videos can teach me
I personally like the short change and cold caller models, They are both the same weight and i always thought they were twins.
his cmment dint cu corners
1:56 I think you meant. A the mingler.
I'm looking through the comments and I think I'm the only one who noticed the mushroom joke lol
What about the street loading system. I mean it's 2017, can't you just track the camera and load the geometry in the players view?
Not only is the fog system unrealistic, it has caused a lot of glitches in the past where you actually have to repeatedly exit* the area or go in shops in order to load it properly.
Along with this, if you enter a street in first person, it won't actually load properly.
Maybe Toontown Rewritten could... uh... smooth the corners out? I don't know any good words for that.
I didn't say remove the loading screen, I mean use the Panda3D's in-built Camera Culling system to hide polygons out of view rather than having the street load in chunks. Removing the loading screen probably would be easier actually, as some servers already do that.
You mean culling?
2:39 Is the left one the Downsizer and the right one the Bean Counter?
Omg I guessed right!!
SUPAHSONIC568 Yeah, you distinguish them by their eyebrows.
Dont know why im commenting to this 1 year old comment but one has a smaller head than the other
Do a rant about the RNG because it SUCKS
LOL man would rather drink lean
3:37 youtube saw this video and decided "yea we'll cut corners on LITERALLY EVERYTHING"
Don't think you knew this at the time but uhh... Chugging a whole bottle of Robitussin will get you super high, it's often refered to as "Robowalking" the dxm in it gives you an extreme euphoria, sometimes even a visual trip.
i don't think i ever noticed the two-face mingler thing and i played that game for years lmaoo
I think I found the difference between the Bean Counter and the Downsizer. The eyebrows.
Being an animator, I think I can fix some things when I animate Toontown stories.
MMOs tend to reuse models a lot. It's easier to re color or resize a enemy then to make a new one. That would be lazy in a normal game (they do it in normal games anyway but whatever) but in an mmo it makes more sense.
It's still cutting corners though
This was an interesting video! I think that it could be a cool concept and...
Bah, I'm too lazy to finish typing this.
ayyyyyyy
I wonder what you'd say about cutting corners now that corporate clash is coming out...
they finally did kind of with corp clash toontown
Another god mode is the yesman and the Hollywood
Good video loopy. I never knew that there were that many conors cut.
I think the cat head kinda looks like the mingler or two face head
Downsizer is the left and bean counter is the right ;)
Who else knew what the god level was
my friend did O_o
hey I didn't skip the ads
best rant video i’ve seen as of yet
toontown but the toons are butterflies.
disney why are you cutting so much corners to be the butterflies in ttc
I wish the 3 playgrounds were here. The game can be super fast... especially if you have high toon friends or multitoon. Having many playgrounds to go through and many tasks that help strengthen your toon could give more playability with longer playthroughs.
I’m sad with all the missing content. But I still wouldn’t trade ToonTown for Club Penguin like Disney did. Now do they even have any game running?
I was playing clash and a downsizer and bean counter were walking next to each other and I confused the two each other even with the name tags.
No cutting corners!
as for animations and models, i wonder if it actually optimizes the game to reuse assets or if its really just copy paste and would take the same mount of space in the game either way
It definitely is a good way to optimize efficiency and space. That said, it's definitely a product of it's time. Nowadays computers are so capable that I think it's not very excusable to cut corners as blatantly as TTO did.
Yesman and Mr. Hollywood
Right downsizer left bean counter
I know because the smudge
not all of this is toontown's fault though, a lot of it is down to when toontown came out when internet speed was so limited, any save counted. that's why they reuse cog heads and have to cut corners.
boynedmaster The models are already downloaded when you install the game?
the issue is right there in your comment, you have to install the game and download the resources.
Then there are the real cog designs amiright
Pepperoni pizza is AWESOME though
he approves of getting high off of DXM cough syrup lmao
I cannot believe they cut these corners. The ideas they scrapped were great. And it could’ve done better if Disney never shut it down.
Still sad and now a little triggered about that.
id drink a bottle of robitussin out of choice sweet dxm nectar
7:21 What resource pack is this?
Well, I don't exactly agree that they were cutting corners because they we're lazy or something, but keep in mind when this game was developed there were zero MMOs that were targeted for family. Disney did not want to invest much into Toontown, so that means they had a low budget for staff, art, marketing, etc. There were about 5 or 6 developers working on the game engine AND the game at once. They had to design and write a game engine, server infrastructure, and a whole MMO that could handle millions of players in about 5 years. Most if not all of these developers had no experience in the game development/design industry, so they had to be creative. However, once the game blew up and they were getting a ton of profit, I do think they were being lazy and not doing anything, and eventually people got bored, game was being exploited (they did nothing about it) , so they just shut it down.
Corporate clash filters users
Good thumbnail
What if we go META and do a rant on how loopy's balls is ruining... imean improving... the name of toontown
Don't judge me but.. I kinda like Robitussin
I think you may be the only one
nah man lots of people do. If you drink the bottle you get really high. Like tripping. So yeah lol
This aorta relates to those lazy TH-camrs that posts the same thumbnail style for every video and they wouldn't come up with new jokes for any part of that video. All it needs is a little more effort and maybe they could gain subscribers and views.
FirestarTTR2000 cough cough loopy
Robitussin in my lean, yuh.
Never ever do codeine, yuh.
Hope this comment gets seen, yuh,
Hope I ain't gettin greened, yuh
yuh
😂
Loopy
yes
Hi loopy how are you ^~^
Hiya, good
Do you know Jesse’s email?
Are you doing a video of loopy ball's 4
there's always a chance
Hiiii kevinnn
WTH
Wot
The difference is I’m their eyebrows