I have owned a RZR XP900 for four years and it's a love /hate relationship. LOL I love to drive it hard but I hate to keep repairing it. I am a retired mechanic and have riden all types of off road since I was around seven years old. The saddest part, IMO, is that I am repairing things that shouldn't be breaking. At least not in the short term. The R & D department at Polaris must only look at the short term. As much as I love the CVT system, even with it's faults, I am very interested in the new Yamaha for a few reasons. The first and most important to me is the Yamaha reputation and build quality. If nothing has changed recently, Yamaha builds pretty tough machines. For example, we have had many Raptor 660's and pounded them into the ground, riding them where and how Yamaha never anticipated, I'm guessing. Those things are amazing! The second reason is that I haven't heard much complaining on the suspension. Actually heard quite a bit of praise in that area! The third is that I have driven big trucks for years and standard transmissions are durable. Since Yamaha came out with the auto clutch and paddle shifting, the only thing I would ask them to change would be the gear ratio or install a low range. I've heard rumors that they are working with a company on the gear change for the clutch models. All in all, if they lower the gear ratio or install a low range, there will be a well maintained RZR XP900 traded in or up for sale. Some are knocking Yamaha for lack of horsepower and a few other things....it took Can Am and Polaris 8 years to get this good.....Yamaha is great right from the start with plenty of room, and time, to make it perfect. looking forward to the future. That launch control is a real nice touch too.
Actually 70GTODAN I'm getting the a 17 paddle shift, They are faster than the 1000 RZR and THOUSANDS cheaper. I think in a couple of years the Yamaha price will probably rise considerably, I think the price is artificially low now to get the machine "out there", then we know what happens.I have Polaris 4 wheelers, but miss the standard, used to race 2 stroke 3 and 4 wheelers. My friend repeatedly lined up with a 1000 RZR and his 16 YXZ. The RZR pulled him until he hit 3rd gear then it was game over YZX gone. Obviously the belt takes away a lot of torque/hp. On a 25 Mph take off the YZX direct drive destroys the belt drive and no hot belt issues on the tight trails or slippage if it got wet. Everything has it's place, a buyer has to decide what they want. I don't think you would have any beefs with the YXZ from the start. Yamaha has watched Polaris and the others for years and obviously they are going to exploit the other manufacturers "problems" and build an as good or better first machine. Good luck on you quest.
70GTODAN I got the 17 SS SE had it a little over 5 months not been let down yet no problems at all and am riding with rzr breaking belts and axles constantly
I'm old school so I still love shifting through gears, hearing the up and down rhythm of the motor, and the feeling you get when you dump a clutch. I currently own a CVT driven ATV but I miss my old school Honda 250 for clutch dumping! Yeah, I'd love to have paddle shifters so I could experience that again!
I've been a diehard Yamaha fan since I was born. From my first MX80, to the YZ 125, YZ 250, up to a banshee, and of course a Raptor. I've owned wildcats and mavericks, and all the while hoping that Yamaha would enter the segment. I grew up driving stick, and really enjoy to this day shifting through the gears. With paddles now an option it's a win-win as far as I am concerned. And the look? Oh man, it's just amazing. I've watched you guys for years, and I am the one that helped you out with the plastic business cards as well. Big fan of the show, and of the YXZ100R SS. I can't wait to see one in person.
I own a 2016 YXZ1000R and I'm not 100% sure I would like the paddle shifters. I find it more fun to have the ability to kick the clutch in a corner to start a drift as these thing are drift machines! I think I would much rather have the challenge of using the foot clutch then trying to be lazy and lose some of the feel and connection to the vehicle I wanted when I bought the yxz. Of course this is subjective but if rather be challenged then be lazy..
Ryan Kessel I was originally against getting paddle shifters when I do get mine but I looked at what I like to ride and it would be a better fit then the original
Eh.. it really isn’t. It isn’t like the r has a shift pattern like a car, besides working the clutch pedal, you are really just moving a lever back and forth where the ss you are pulling a paddle.
I really like the balance Yamaha is achieving with the auto-clutch and paddle shifters. I thought driving my RZR and Wildcat Sport were a little weird after growing up on Honda ATCs and ATVs in the '80's. I'm used to it now and really love my Wildcat Sport, but, I would love to be able to hear that engine rev up and down as I change gears instead of droning down the trail like a boat. I'm also attracted to the durability of a gear box vs a CVT belt, however I've punished my RZR and its still on the factory belt I bought it with, so I can't really say belts will leave you stranded on a long ride, but they theoretically could. I would really love to try out YXZ1000R SS on the sugar sand trails and forest roads of Central Florida, but I'd REALLY like to see a YXZ SS set up for running through mud. We have lots of mud, being that Florida is just one big swamp. I bet the lack of a belt to slip would make the gear drive a bonus.
I love DT..I watch it all the time bought my first ATV after watching the review on the canam 1000 and it was all you guys said it was...thanks for the reviews and all the hard work u put into your show...great job guys
I have a 2013 maverick and i was in Demo ride at Dunefest. The paddle shifting is the future. I was able to go into a corner in 2nd down shift to 1st and come out at 9000 rpm. What a blast.
I love the implication of the new paddle shifting feature. I think it's a great way to obtain more control over the vehicle while eliminating the hassle of a manual clutch.
i went to pick up my Raptor today from the repair shop. wasnt happen about what i heard. its pretty much toast. But as i was there i seen them unloading this beautiful beautiful Yamaha. pretty much completely forgot about the bad news of my 700r. the 5 minute veiw of this thing completely changed my day. it was almost like Jesus himself was sitting in it. i was so lost that this guy behind me actually took a picture of me just looking at it. as he says ive never seen anybody look at somthing the way u just looked at that TRX. keep it up Yamaha because u changed the riding game for awhile.
I'd love to have paddles on my sxs, but first I need to buy one. Since going away to school I had to give up off road riding and now years later I'm trying to get it back in my life. One day I'll own a new YXZ1000R, I'm sure of it!
I will comment again, the YXZ 1000R is a great machine with the manual transmission. YOUR LEG DOES NOT GET TIRED SHIFTING. The clutch pedal is easier to push in than the brake on any CVT-style machine. With the engine braking on the YXZ, you use the brake much less than a CVT-style SXS. I have 3200 miles on my YXZ and love driving it. The control you have over the power band is unreal. What any observer needs to do is drive one for yourself (manual or sport shift). Give yourself some seat-time, you will soon discover how fun the YXZ really is. There are different gearing options now available (as an option) from the dealer for the manual shift YXZ. The quality fit and finish of the YXZ is unmatched in the SXS industry, with 3200 miles on my YXZ -- the cab is still tight as a dish. The triple cylinder engine is built tough as nails. While not for everyone, the true sport enthusiast will love this thing -- sport shift or manual.
paddle shifters are amaising for any vehicle for the trails and dunes riding. The automatic clutch is also less work for long trips and easier for going through trails. love it!!!
Paddle Shift is a game changer. US riders are not used to changing gears so this is the best of both worlds. Where I live in New Zealand we are super excited about this side by side.
I think the paddle shifter is the perfect balance of automation and manual. Control over power band and take off without the distraction of full manual. And as is pointed out in the segment you're not relying on a hunk of temp sensitive rubber to get big HP to the ground.
I have the 2016 YXZ 1000R and have driven the SS and I can tell you if your old school like I am and have had sand rails you will love the R model. If you are board of CVT and are skilled with the clutch, then you will love the YXZ 1000R. I know I do! Also the clutch does not get tiring at all. Shifting the manual is like shifting a dirt bike, its awesome!
this is going to be a game changer, no question about it. I love the rzr but as of right now this yammi is definitely in 1st by a large margin. this is basically a sports car for the dirt and mud. awesomeness
Just got a 2017 yxz so far all is good, loving it. Took the wife and kids on a ride mud hills rocks name it. Power is there half clutch works well in those tight areas. Trailing in southern Guam.
I've owned a 2011 Polaris 900 XP RZR with several performance modifications ( Polaris stage 2 cams ECU etc). It's my opinion that that Polaris builds a fantastic product, and it's been a rock solid performer, but belts do have their limitations. So for that reason I have purchased a 2017 Yamaha 1000 R SS SE from Quad Experts . I am currently awaiting delivery , scheduled for August 12. I'll post my opinion of this vehicle shortly, I hope! Great review Dirt Trax's!
I definitely agree that the paddle shifters with the automatic clutch is a step up, along with the paddle shifts having the shifter down there is fun and all until you catch yourself flying around a corner needing to up shift while needing to have control of your vehicle
I think it brings a new horizon to motorsports most certainly impressive and makes me want one of these all the more to show off to my mates and family when going off road etc
I currently own a 2016 Viking VI Ranch Edtion I so wish it came with paddle shifting having them would be awesome just like an F1 race car. As I was leaving with my new UTV from the dealer the YXZ's where just getting built in the shop I almost said " wait I want that one" but having kids I wanted to have a UTV that could fit my whole family. So eight months later my kids don't go out with me to ride as much so I am glad I waited till this model came out. I will be getting a YXZ around Chrismas for just me lol I think this is the model everyone will enjoy once they can appreciate the paddle shifters cause it's the only way to go. great video guys keep up the good work.
Patel shift is a game changer and now with this new Patel shift I must go test drive it and see how awesome it is and might buy it! Gives you a new since of really driving it!
I have been a Honda rider for many years and I love the electronic shifting on my Rincon... I hardly ever ride in automatic mode on a trail. I would love to have paddle shifters on a sport side by side, i think there are many benefits to being able to select the gear you are in, especially in technical trail riding situations.
I'm picking up a yxz this upcoming Saturday. My family consists of no other than the wildcats. I decided to go with yxz simply because I owned a yfz which I loved so much and knew what yamaha was capable of, and because my family goes through so many bands and when you're in the middle of the dunes and one busts. let's just say its no fun. Anyway if you all ever happen to be in the west Texas area you all should hit up the Kermit sand dunes. I grew up in the little Texas town of Kermit and I grew up going to the sand dunes every weekend. It is so much fun and a great hobby.
Me personally, I would love to have a side by side with paddle shifters. I used to ride dirt bikes and anything on two wheels but I unfortunately fell off a roof last year and don't think I'll be getting on two wheels again anytime soon. one of the things I don't like about the side by sides is they are automatic. I would rather have something I can shift. After watching this video, I'm happy to see where the market is headed with these machines.
I like the paddle shifter idea, and agree a manual transmission is not tolerable or competitive with a CVT automatic in many environments; however, a step between the two is the sequential transmission with a recluse clutch. It's great on the trails!
I believe yamaha has created a new niche to the market. Being able to shift with paddles is a lot more car like and can truly be an exhilarating ride. Although the manual yxz was a first for the sxs market, yamaha nailed it with the paddles. If the market dwells on this type of transmission, we could see some remarkable pieces of machinery.
Wow, 7 months later and I'm still coming back to this Yamaha. I'm a Polaris guy but I really like the idea of getting away from those CVT's. 2 more months and I'm going to pull the trigger on a new rig, and this ones at the front of the pack for my choices. My only worry is the price now. To get an SS that's spec'd the way I would get it is pushing 30 grand, before accessories. That will definitely factor into my decision. The new maverick is looking pretty appealing too. The roominess of a Polaris is hard to beat too. I'd like to be able to afford getting all three at the same time, but that's not in the cards. SxS's are awesome, I'll never go back to a quad, I'm not 16 anymore.
The paddle shifters are a plus for sure. For those of us coming from a cvt side by side it makes the transition that much easier. This will most likely be my next side by side for sure. Tired of the whole CVT mess.
I defiantly want to try that new ss out. Driving a standard in the bush is what turned me off to that yxz, not even interested in trying it. Launch control looks awesome, I can see it coming in handy. If the paddle shifters work as good as I think they would or should they'd be a welcome change. Personally I'll wait and see how that transmission holds up in the next year or so, but if it does i think id prefer that to a cvt, although the cvt's they got out now are pretty killer too so,,,,, i got to try one out. Thanks for this video guys.
I may just be a little butt hurt because I bought a yxz1000 SE last year, but I like the manual clutch in my UTV. I've learned to tolerate its shortcomings in the trails because it more than makes up for it when you can open it up then hit a perfect heel-toe downshift while sliding it around a hair pin!
in the manual yxz you only have to use the clutch when taking off or coming to a complete stop. dont have to use the clutch to shift in a sequential transmission.
I love the paddle shifters! It eliminates worrying about a belt breaking while your on the trail! And believe me I've experienced the belt snapping in a maverick! The paddle shifters also let your have a sense of more control of the sxs, and that's a comfortable feeling! All in all I hope this yxz stomps the Polaris rzr into the ground in my opinion!
My current maverick turbo will instantly go up for sale the moment can-am comes out with a paddle shifter. I've been dreaming about a belt free life for ages haha. A must have!
I think paddle shifters with the auto clutch is the best option. Adding the Rekluse clutch to the manual shift version would prevent stalling but I'd be concerned about losing engine hold back on hills. With a CVT I'd be worried about blowing a belt while out in the backcountry. I think it's awesome that Honda and Yamaha are giving customers this new option!
I've been in the market for a new side by side and the clutch scared me off of the YXZ. I've been abusing a 660 Rhino for 10 years now and it's time to upgrade! The paddle shifters make this a no-brainer. With the durability of my last Yamaha product I feel confident this is the side by side for me!
paddle shifts are awesome but now they have them on an off road vehicle. changes the game to an whole new level of awesomeness. Makes it easy for everyone to drive. paddle shift is easier riding on the trail BC don't have to worry bout the third pedal getting in your way or constantly have to keep you foot on. also that lunch control is icing on the cake good to have. but last also not least is you can rock crawl and climb hills better now. thanks for the video dirt trax.
One of the biggest benefits I find to any electronically controlled transmission, especially paddle shifters, is the precision. Every shift is smooth and complete and the computer rarely misses a gear. And, being able to shift while under throttle means the computer often shifts faster than most humans could a true manual. Paddle shifters are my favorite because of this; being able to have control over the vehicle while not having to work the clutch is the best of both worlds.
I always looked down at the ss because I thought having the auto clutch would make drag racing the machine horrid, but that launch control feature just sold me on this model. My only gripe is that I wish the paddles were fixed to the wheel itself so in a hard corner you could still shift without repositioning your hands... someone needs to make a paddle mount to wheel kit, that would be amazing!!!!
yes paddle shifters would make it much easier in slow up and down trails and still have the sporty Miss of being able to find out the gears and shift them yourself on straight aways
So pumped for this new machine. I was soooo close to buying the original yxz. Until I saw the release of the SS! Can't wait for it to hit the showroom floors!
I've driven the YXZ with manual and the Honda with paddles and I liked the YXZ way more, but that is because there is nothing like having to use the clutch to shift through gears which is half the fun for me but I am excited for the launch control on the new SS.
Great vid, DT! I'm excited that Yamaha has gone this direction and I'd love to see paddle shifters on other machines in the future. If the first gear is low enough for real crawling, this might be the machine to beat for versatility and durability. Keep up the great content! Curtis
Im glad Yamaha decided to go this route with the YXZ, it was a pain to ride in the Northeastern trails with that clutch from what I heard. Im really anxious to get in one and stretch it's legs in the tight NY trails I ride to see how it stacks up against the RZR & Mavericks in my area. Great review as always guys, you should head to the 2017 Snirt Run in Old Forge NY next year btw.
I love my 2016 yxz. can't wait to see the difference once I finally get to try out the 2017 paddle shift. .. I have to admit I'm not brand loyal. . I'll go with whatever suits my riding style. . at the moment it's the yxz... I really hope they come out with a low range to their transmission soon.. they are without a doubt loosing out on the rock and mud crawler market. . if this thing had low range like all the other sxs it'd be the perfect all around machine and wouldn't lose a bit in its current element. they are SO close !
I thought a manual transmission with clutch was the only way to go, after watching this video I am %100 convinced that I would take the YXZ1000SS over the YXZ1000r. Awesome video keep it up👍
Yes like paddle shifters on a sxs, Thats why I love my Honda P500 so much. Once I tried it I was sold, it can hold its self downhill in 1st gear with no brakes! Great show keep up the good work guys.
The paddle shifters eliminate the belt and to me that is a big plus. I have owned a Maverick 1000 and RZR 1000 and even though I loved the tough Maverick, changing the belt is very time consuming and best if you carry special tools. I live in Utah with hot temperatures and demanding rides so the paddle shifter on the Yamaha is very interesting to me although I would like to try it out on steep rocky trails before committing to an actual purchase. The maverick is ridicules to change the belt and oil filter the Polaris is easy in comparison to accomplish both. No one seems to address how easy or difficult it is to maintain the vehicles when demonstrating or doing comparison tests, how about it?
I think the paddle shifters would be a nice addition for when you want to control what gear you are in, but you would think they would also have a full automatic mode for when you are just cruising & don't necessarilly want to mess with the paddle shifters.
I would love to have a manual transmission in my side by side. I've been looking for a 50" model that has this capability. I've looked at the Honda pioneer 500 but i want more top speed. I have a Suzuki Vinson 500 with the manual transmission and auto clutch. This four-wheeler is super fun to ride and gets twice the fuel milage of comparable models with the CVT setup. I'm currently exploring the Arctic cat wildcat trail model or a RZR trail. I wish one of those had the paddle shifters and manual transmission.
Paddle shifters would be a better option for trails and lower speed driving than a manual shift. There is another point though about Yamaha and their "first true sport sxs" because a dual clutch is more sport than a manual, on a sxs it won't matter too much for most of us but either way a DCT will be a paddle shifter too, Honda does it already. Hopefully Honda will do a sport with DCT and show us all what a paddle shift should look like.
yup - paddle shifters are the only way to go. That's why stick shift cars are barely sold and are hard to get rid of when they are bought. I didn't buy a shifter when looking, but did on the Paddle Shifter. In addition, you (and all the other test rider/drivers all show maximum effort (running the vehicle at 90% capability). The problem is that very few people run their vehicles that hard all the time. You should actually slow down and drive like a "normal" person. Fast but not that fast. This also shows up the slower to slow speed capabilities of the machine (not rock crawling slow - in the 20 - 30 mph range of the dirt and rough stuff). Thanks again.
It will depends on the type of riding you'll be doing, but as you've covered on this video, if its trail running with lots of variable speeds and/or rock crawling, then the paddle shifter auto will be the way to go. It keeps both your hands on the steering wheel at all times and when climbing you do not lose momentum when shifting gears on an auto compared to a manual clutch.
A clutch is nice , back in the day that's all I wanted . But now , the less I have to do, the better it is . I want to enjoy the ride and the less I have to think about the better it is .
this will probably be my first side by side, this review sorta concreted my decision. gonna wait a little longer to see if the bring a turbo version first.
I think it would be one hell of a time to throw a sequential trans and paddle shifters in the RZR XP Turbo. Might even be able to put more power to the ground...
I think Yamaha was smart to do this. as a side by side enthusiast, my first thought when they launched last year was they're limiting their market. adding paddles, opens it up to everyone. smart!
If I had a manual trans in my SxS I would want paddle shifters on it for sure. I had already made that suggestion to a friend of mine within 1 week of the original YXZ coming out.
I own a 2015 maverick 1000 turbo its really nice love the machine but man would I love to switch to a 1000r ss with the paddle shifters I would love that so much honestly been waiting for someone to come up with like that.
I think for pure sport SXS the paddle shifters are the answer, I knew when the YXZ came out that shifting gears manually would become tiresome, anyone who has off roaded in a 4X4 (jeep/truck) knows your leg can get tired unless you just crawl along in Lo. but the Auto clutch and paddle shifters are a great option, isn't that what F1 cars use too? I'd love to have paddle shifters ! Saying that, I still think if you do mostly trail riding that the CVT is still better.
I think paddleshifters are a great move in the performance aspect but I personally would prefer the stick and clutch. Something about it makes me feel so much more a part of the vehicle and though it can be a pain, when it's perfect it's hard to beat that feeling.
Heck yea the paddle shifters take the yxz to a different level that it was already on. I am bitter, because Yamaha came out with it 2 weeks after I got mine....But that's why I had a turbo kit installed to ease my mind! I suggest you all do the same!!!!
A few reasons I'd prefer the paddles over the manual and Cvt 1. The trails here are a nightmare for SXS's so having a manual just makes things difficult. 2. You still get the sound and performance advantage of the manual transmission (the steady scream of a Cvt equipped SXS annoys me as a sport quad rider, I want to hear it go threw the gears) 3. It's just more fun than the Cvt without the headache of the clutch. You should do more coverage of the Polaris General 1k, a build series or something.
I'd love to have paddle shifters on a SxS. I've never owned a SxS but I've drove plenty of them. I could see how that could be a fun compromise between a manual transmission and a cvt. (My truck is a stick shift so I know how your leg can get tired with the clutch)
paddle shifters on a pure sport is genius! you now have true best of both worlds. I cant wait to try one out someday.
Absolutely! I have a Pioneer 1000 and the paddle shift option is by far the most used and useful feature in the machine.
I have owned a RZR XP900 for four years and it's a love /hate relationship. LOL I love to drive it hard but I hate to keep repairing it. I am a retired mechanic and have riden all types of off road since I was around seven years old. The saddest part, IMO, is that I am repairing things that shouldn't be breaking. At least not in the short term. The R & D department at Polaris must only look at the short term. As much as I love the CVT system, even with it's faults, I am very interested in the new Yamaha for a few reasons. The first and most important to me is the Yamaha reputation and build quality. If nothing has changed recently, Yamaha builds pretty tough machines. For example, we have had many Raptor 660's and pounded them into the ground, riding them where and how Yamaha never anticipated, I'm guessing. Those things are amazing! The second reason is that I haven't heard much complaining on the suspension. Actually heard quite a bit of praise in that area! The third is that I have driven big trucks for years and standard transmissions are durable. Since Yamaha came out with the auto clutch and paddle shifting, the only thing I would ask them to change would be the gear ratio or install a low range. I've heard rumors that they are working with a company on the gear change for the clutch models. All in all, if they lower the gear ratio or install a low range, there will be a well maintained RZR XP900 traded in or up for sale. Some are knocking Yamaha for lack of horsepower and a few other things....it took Can Am and Polaris 8 years to get this good.....Yamaha is great right from the start with plenty of room, and time, to make it perfect. looking forward to the future. That launch control is a real nice touch too.
Awesome comment! Thanks for posting!!
Actually 70GTODAN I'm getting the a 17 paddle shift, They are faster than the 1000 RZR and THOUSANDS cheaper. I think in a couple of years the Yamaha price will probably rise considerably, I think the price is artificially low now to get the machine "out there", then we know what happens.I have Polaris 4 wheelers, but miss the standard, used to race 2 stroke 3 and 4 wheelers. My friend repeatedly lined up with a 1000 RZR and his 16 YXZ. The RZR pulled him until he hit 3rd gear then it was game over YZX gone. Obviously the belt takes away a lot of torque/hp. On a 25 Mph take off the YZX direct drive destroys the belt drive and no hot belt issues on the tight trails or slippage if it got wet. Everything has it's place, a buyer has to decide what they want. I don't think you would have any beefs with the YXZ from the start. Yamaha has watched Polaris and the others for years and obviously they are going to exploit the other manufacturers "problems" and build an as good or better first machine. Good luck on you quest.
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70GTODAN I got the 17 SS SE had it a little over 5 months not been let down yet no problems at all and am riding with rzr breaking belts and axles constantly
What year 900 did you have?
The sequential shifting is a big factor for me. I am acquiring the XYZ 1000R SS and this feature played a big factor on my decision.
I'm old school so I still love shifting through gears, hearing the up and down rhythm of the motor, and the feeling you get when you dump a clutch. I currently own a CVT driven ATV but I miss my old school Honda 250 for clutch dumping! Yeah, I'd love to have paddle shifters so I could experience that again!
I've been a diehard Yamaha fan since I was born. From my first MX80, to the YZ 125, YZ 250, up to a banshee, and of course a Raptor. I've owned wildcats and mavericks, and all the while hoping that Yamaha would enter the segment. I grew up driving stick, and really enjoy to this day shifting through the gears. With paddles now an option it's a win-win as far as I am concerned. And the look? Oh man, it's just amazing. I've watched you guys for years, and I am the one that helped you out with the plastic business cards as well. Big fan of the show, and of the YXZ100R SS. I can't wait to see one in person.
I was hoping that they would bring out paddles on this and they did !!! it just adds so much more to the beast!!!!
I own a 2016 YXZ1000R and I'm not 100% sure I would like the paddle shifters. I find it more fun to have the ability to kick the clutch in a corner to start a drift as these thing are drift machines! I think I would much rather have the challenge of using the foot clutch then trying to be lazy and lose some of the feel and connection to the vehicle I wanted when I bought the yxz. Of course this is subjective but if rather be challenged then be lazy..
Ryan Kessel I was originally against getting paddle shifters when I do get mine but I looked at what I like to ride and it would be a better fit then the original
Totally agree with you.. i also got 2016.. it is very fun to shift
@@yerkenutezhanov8557 U still shift... Instead of pushing the lever, you pull the paddle, not much different.
@@wgyoungblood uh its very different..
Eh.. it really isn’t. It isn’t like the r has a shift pattern like a car, besides working the clutch pedal, you are really just moving a lever back and forth where the ss you are pulling a paddle.
I really like the balance Yamaha is achieving with the auto-clutch and paddle shifters. I thought driving my RZR and Wildcat Sport were a little weird after growing up on Honda ATCs and ATVs in the '80's. I'm used to it now and really love my Wildcat Sport, but, I would love to be able to hear that engine rev up and down as I change gears instead of droning down the trail like a boat. I'm also attracted to the durability of a gear box vs a CVT belt, however I've punished my RZR and its still on the factory belt I bought it with, so I can't really say belts will leave you stranded on a long ride, but they theoretically could. I would really love to try out YXZ1000R SS on the sugar sand trails and forest roads of Central Florida, but I'd REALLY like to see a YXZ SS set up for running through mud. We have lots of mud, being that Florida is just one big swamp. I bet the lack of a belt to slip would make the gear drive a bonus.
Wow, Yamaha YXZ looks like quite the machine!! If I had one I'd make it highway capable being it's street legal in my state and surrounding.
I love DT..I watch it all the time bought my first ATV after watching the review on the canam 1000 and it was all you guys said it was...thanks for the reviews and all the hard work u put into your show...great job guys
I have a 2013 maverick and i was in Demo ride at Dunefest. The paddle shifting is the future. I was able to go into a corner in 2nd down shift to 1st and come out at 9000 rpm. What a blast.
I think having a paddle shifter is what SideXSides have needed for a while. I would love to have it.
I love the implication of the new paddle shifting feature. I think it's a great way to obtain more control over the vehicle while eliminating the hassle of a manual clutch.
I have to get a side by side first, but yeah I would want paddles. I like this model!!!!
i went to pick up my Raptor today from the repair shop. wasnt happen about what i heard. its pretty much toast. But as i was there i seen them unloading this beautiful beautiful Yamaha. pretty much completely forgot about the bad news of my 700r. the 5 minute veiw of this thing completely changed my day. it was almost like Jesus himself was sitting in it. i was so lost that this guy behind me actually took a picture of me just looking at it. as he says ive never seen anybody look at somthing the way u just looked at that TRX. keep it up Yamaha because u changed the riding game for awhile.
I'd love to have paddles on my sxs, but first I need to buy one. Since going away to school I had to give up off road riding and now years later I'm trying to get it back in my life. One day I'll own a new YXZ1000R, I'm sure of it!
I will comment again, the YXZ 1000R is a great machine with the manual transmission. YOUR LEG DOES NOT GET TIRED SHIFTING. The clutch pedal is easier to push in than the brake on any CVT-style machine. With the engine braking on the YXZ, you use the brake much less than a CVT-style SXS. I have 3200 miles on my YXZ and love driving it. The control you have over the power band is unreal. What any observer needs to do is drive one for yourself (manual or sport shift). Give yourself some seat-time, you will soon discover how fun the YXZ really is. There are different gearing options now available (as an option) from the dealer for the manual shift YXZ. The quality fit and finish of the YXZ is unmatched in the SXS industry, with 3200 miles on my YXZ -- the cab is still tight as a dish. The triple cylinder engine is built tough as nails. While not for everyone, the true sport enthusiast will love this thing -- sport shift or manual.
paddle shifters are amaising for any vehicle for the trails and dunes riding. The automatic clutch is also less work for long trips and easier for going through trails. love it!!!
Paddle Shift is a game changer. US riders are not used to changing gears so this is the best of both worlds. Where I live in New Zealand we are super excited about this side by side.
I would love paddle shifters on a SxS! I like the selectable gear option at all times. I feel I'm in total control that way! Great review.
I think the paddle shifter is the perfect balance of automation and manual. Control over power band and take off without the distraction of full manual. And as is pointed out in the segment you're not relying on a hunk of temp sensitive rubber to get big HP to the ground.
I have the 2016 YXZ 1000R and have driven the SS and I can tell you if your old school like I am and have had sand rails you will love the R model. If you are board of CVT and are skilled with the clutch, then you will love the YXZ 1000R. I know I do! Also the clutch does not get tiring at all. Shifting the manual is like shifting a dirt bike, its awesome!
this is going to be a game changer, no question about it. I love the rzr but as of right now this yammi is definitely in 1st by a large margin. this is basically a sports car for the dirt and mud. awesomeness
Just got a 2017 yxz so far all is good, loving it. Took the wife and kids on a ride mud hills rocks name it. Power is there half clutch works well in those tight areas. Trailing in southern Guam.
I've owned a 2011 Polaris 900 XP RZR with several performance modifications ( Polaris stage 2 cams ECU etc). It's my opinion that that Polaris builds a fantastic product, and it's been a rock solid performer, but belts do have their limitations. So for that reason I have purchased a 2017 Yamaha 1000 R SS SE from Quad Experts . I am currently awaiting delivery , scheduled for August 12. I'll post my opinion of this vehicle shortly, I hope! Great review Dirt Trax's!
Yes I would love to have the paddle shifters to be able to hold the gears and cvt are just set to fail with time Yamaha did a great design
I definitely agree that the paddle shifters with the automatic clutch is a step up, along with the paddle shifts having the shifter down there is fun and all until you catch yourself flying around a corner needing to up shift while needing to have control of your vehicle
I think it brings a new horizon to motorsports most certainly impressive and makes me want one of these all the more to show off to my mates and family when going off road etc
Paddle shifters totally change the way we drive through the trails. I love it.
i'd love to have paddleshifters on a sidexside they give you something else to focus on so it makes it more fun
I currently own a 2016 Viking VI Ranch Edtion I so wish it came with paddle shifting having them would be awesome just like an F1 race car. As I was leaving with my new UTV from the dealer the YXZ's where just getting built in the shop I almost said " wait I want that one" but having kids I wanted to have a UTV that could fit my whole family. So eight months later my kids don't go out with me to ride as much so I am glad I waited till this model came out.
I will be getting a YXZ around Chrismas for just me lol I think this is the model everyone will enjoy once they can appreciate the paddle shifters cause it's the only way to go. great video guys keep up the good work.
Patel shift is a game changer and now with this new Patel shift I must go test drive it and see how awesome it is and might buy it! Gives you a new since of really driving it!
we liked the manual shift and we are going to love the paddles. I love the paddles in the Corvette
I have been a Honda rider for many years and I love the electronic shifting on my Rincon... I hardly ever ride in automatic mode on a trail. I would love to have paddle shifters on a sport side by side, i think there are many benefits to being able to select the gear you are in, especially in technical trail riding situations.
I'm picking up a yxz this upcoming Saturday. My family consists of no other than the wildcats. I decided to go with yxz simply because I owned a yfz which I loved so much and knew what yamaha was capable of, and because my family goes through so many bands and when you're in the middle of the dunes and one busts. let's just say its no fun. Anyway if you all ever happen to be in the west Texas area you all should hit up the Kermit sand dunes. I grew up in the little Texas town of Kermit and I grew up going to the sand dunes every weekend. It is so much fun and a great hobby.
Me personally, I would love to have a side by side with paddle shifters. I used to ride dirt bikes and anything on two wheels but I unfortunately fell off a roof last year and don't think I'll be getting on two wheels again anytime soon. one of the things I don't like about the side by sides is they are automatic. I would rather have something I can shift. After watching this video, I'm happy to see where the market is headed with these machines.
I like the paddle shifter idea, and agree a manual transmission is not tolerable or competitive with a CVT automatic in many environments; however, a step between the two is the sequential transmission with a recluse clutch. It's great on the trails!
I believe yamaha has created a new niche to the market. Being able to shift with paddles is a lot more car like and can truly be an exhilarating ride. Although the manual yxz was a first for the sxs market, yamaha nailed it with the paddles. If the market dwells on this type of transmission, we could see some remarkable pieces of machinery.
Wow, 7 months later and I'm still coming back to this Yamaha. I'm a Polaris guy but I really like the idea of getting away from those CVT's. 2 more months and I'm going to pull the trigger on a new rig, and this ones at the front of the pack for my choices. My only worry is the price now. To get an SS that's spec'd the way I would get it is pushing 30 grand, before accessories. That will definitely factor into my decision. The new maverick is looking pretty appealing too. The roominess of a Polaris is hard to beat too. I'd like to be able to afford getting all three at the same time, but that's not in the cards. SxS's are awesome, I'll never go back to a quad, I'm not 16 anymore.
The paddle shifters are a plus for sure. For those of us coming from a cvt side by side it makes the transition that much easier. This will most likely be my next side by side for sure. Tired of the whole CVT mess.
I defiantly want to try that new ss out. Driving a standard in the bush is what turned me off to that yxz, not even interested in trying it.
Launch control looks awesome, I can see it coming in handy. If the paddle shifters work as good as I think they would or should they'd be a welcome change. Personally I'll wait and see how that transmission holds up in the next year or so, but if it does i think id prefer that to a cvt, although the cvt's they got out now are pretty killer too so,,,,, i got to try one out.
Thanks for this video guys.
I may just be a little butt hurt because I bought a yxz1000 SE last year, but I like the manual clutch in my UTV. I've learned to tolerate its shortcomings in the trails because it more than makes up for it when you can open it up then hit a perfect heel-toe downshift while sliding it around a hair pin!
in the manual yxz you only have to use the clutch when taking off or coming to a complete stop. dont have to use the clutch to shift in a sequential transmission.
definitely want paddle shifters. love the new launch feature !!! it'll be a bigger monster at the sand dunes !!!
I love the paddle shifters! It eliminates worrying about a belt breaking while your on the trail! And believe me I've experienced the belt snapping in a maverick! The paddle shifters also let your have a sense of more control of the sxs, and that's a comfortable feeling! All in all I hope this yxz stomps the Polaris rzr into the ground in my opinion!
My current maverick turbo will instantly go up for sale the moment can-am comes out with a paddle shifter. I've been dreaming about a belt free life for ages haha. A must have!
I could see a system like this being good for more than only the pure sport side by sides like for towing and hauling
Yes wouldn’t mind trying paddle shifters. Automatic is good but controlling speeds sometimes is better.
I think paddle shifters with the auto clutch is the best option. Adding the Rekluse clutch to the manual shift version would prevent stalling but I'd be concerned about losing engine hold back on hills. With a CVT I'd be worried about blowing a belt while out in the backcountry. I think it's awesome that Honda and Yamaha are giving customers this new option!
Paddle shifter would be awesome on a sidexside but having palled that move with the wheel would be the nice feature so you're never reaching.
I've been in the market for a new side by side and the clutch scared me off of the YXZ. I've been abusing a 660 Rhino for 10 years now and it's time to upgrade! The paddle shifters make this a no-brainer. With the durability of my last Yamaha product I feel confident this is the side by side for me!
Great idea on the paddle shifter. Makes it a better machine to ride for longer period of time. Love these reviews.
I just got a YXZ1000R ss se 2017 whit the paddle shift and i love it works greatim from Montréal
I would love to have paddle shift , that is gonna change the game. Always enjoy your show guys keep up the great work
paddle shifts are awesome but now they have them on an off road vehicle. changes the game to an whole new level of awesomeness. Makes it easy for everyone to drive. paddle shift is easier riding on the trail BC don't have to worry bout the third pedal getting in your way or constantly have to keep you foot on. also that lunch control is icing on the cake good to have. but last also not least is you can rock crawl and climb hills better now. thanks for the video dirt trax.
One of the biggest benefits I find to any electronically controlled transmission, especially paddle shifters, is the precision. Every shift is smooth and complete and the computer rarely misses a gear. And, being able to shift while under throttle means the computer often shifts faster than most humans could a true manual. Paddle shifters are my favorite because of this; being able to have control over the vehicle while not having to work the clutch is the best of both worlds.
Great comment!
I always looked down at the ss because I thought having the auto clutch would make drag racing the machine horrid, but that launch control feature just sold me on this model. My only gripe is that I wish the paddles were fixed to the wheel itself so in a hard corner you could still shift without repositioning your hands... someone needs to make a paddle mount to wheel kit, that would be amazing!!!!
yes paddle shifters would make it much easier in slow up and down trails and still have the sporty Miss of being able to find out the gears and shift them yourself on straight aways
I would love to have paddle shifters and that cool lunch control
So pumped for this new machine. I was soooo close to buying the original yxz. Until I saw the release of the SS! Can't wait for it to hit the showroom floors!
I have a YXZ 1000r now and I switched from a Can Am Maverick, I would say that paddle shifters and a low gear would make it perfect
I saw a bunch of these at Dumont last weekend and can't believe how fast they are. I have a 2016 RZR 1000 turbo and they seemed to be almost as fast.
I've driven the YXZ with manual and the Honda with paddles and I liked the YXZ way more, but that is because there is nothing like having to use the clutch to shift through gears which is half the fun for me but I am excited for the launch control on the new SS.
paddles? they work wonders especially since you don't have to worry about the clutch so often
Great vid, DT! I'm excited that Yamaha has gone this direction and I'd love to see paddle shifters on other machines in the future. If the first gear is low enough for real crawling, this might be the machine to beat for versatility and durability. Keep up the great content! Curtis
Im glad Yamaha decided to go this route with the YXZ, it was a pain to ride in the Northeastern trails with that clutch from what I heard. Im really anxious to get in one and stretch it's legs in the tight NY trails I ride to see how it stacks up against the RZR & Mavericks in my area. Great review as always guys, you should head to the 2017 Snirt Run in Old Forge NY next year btw.
I love my 2016 yxz. can't wait to see the difference once I finally get to try out the 2017 paddle shift. .. I have to admit I'm not brand loyal. . I'll go with whatever suits my riding style. . at the moment it's the yxz... I really hope they come out with a low range to their transmission soon.. they are without a doubt loosing out on the rock and mud crawler market. . if this thing had low range like all the other sxs it'd be the perfect all around machine and wouldn't lose a bit in its current element. they are SO close !
I thought a manual transmission with clutch was the only way to go, after watching this video I am %100 convinced that I would take the YXZ1000SS over the YXZ1000r. Awesome video keep it up👍
Yes like paddle shifters on a sxs, Thats why I love my Honda P500 so much. Once I
tried it I was sold, it can hold its self downhill in 1st gear with no brakes! Great show keep up the good work guys.
Thank you!
yes give me paddle shifting. I think it will be very beneficial on the rocks as well as long as first gear is low enough.
The launch using the paddle shift looks badass
It really is.
I would have paddle shifters on this side by side ... I love my RZR the way it is but paddle shifters would be awesome too
The paddle shifters eliminate the belt and to me that is a big plus. I have owned a Maverick 1000 and RZR 1000 and even though I loved the tough Maverick, changing the belt is very time consuming and best if you carry special tools. I live in Utah with hot temperatures and demanding rides so the paddle shifter on the Yamaha is very interesting to me although I would like to try it out on steep rocky trails before committing to an actual purchase.
The maverick is ridicules to change the belt and oil filter the Polaris is easy in comparison to accomplish both. No one seems to address how easy or difficult it is to maintain the vehicles when demonstrating or doing comparison tests, how about it?
I think the paddle shifters would be a nice addition for when you want to control what gear you are in, but you would think they would also have a full automatic mode for when you are just cruising & don't necessarilly want to mess with the paddle shifters.
I would love to have a manual transmission in my side by side. I've been looking for a 50" model that has this capability. I've looked at the Honda pioneer 500 but i want more top speed. I have a Suzuki Vinson 500 with the manual transmission and auto clutch. This four-wheeler is super fun to ride and gets twice the fuel milage of comparable models with the CVT setup. I'm currently exploring the Arctic cat wildcat trail model or a RZR trail. I wish one of those had the paddle shifters and manual transmission.
Paddle shifters would be a better option for trails and lower speed driving than a manual shift. There is another point though about Yamaha and their "first true sport sxs" because a dual clutch is more sport than a manual, on a sxs it won't matter too much for most of us but either way a DCT will be a paddle shifter too, Honda does it already. Hopefully Honda will do a sport with DCT and show us all what a paddle shift should look like.
yup - paddle shifters are the only way to go. That's why stick shift cars are barely sold and are hard to get rid of when they are bought. I didn't buy a shifter when looking, but did on the Paddle Shifter.
In addition, you (and all the other test rider/drivers all show maximum effort (running the vehicle at 90% capability). The problem is that very few people run their vehicles that hard all the time. You should actually slow down and drive like a "normal" person. Fast but not that fast. This also shows up the slower to slow speed capabilities of the machine (not rock crawling slow - in the 20 - 30 mph range of the dirt and rough stuff).
Thanks again.
It will depends on the type of riding you'll be doing, but as you've covered on this video, if its trail running with lots of variable speeds and/or rock crawling, then the paddle shifter auto will be the way to go. It keeps both your hands on the steering wheel at all times and when climbing you do not lose momentum when shifting gears on an auto compared to a manual clutch.
A clutch is nice , back in the day that's all I wanted . But now , the less I have to do, the better it is . I want to enjoy the ride and the less I have to think about the better it is .
Paddles all day! Keeps your hands where they need to be, and with the new clutch-less shifting, you're free to focus on the terrain ahead.
Good review. Almost purchased a 2016. Definately going to get the 2017 SS instead. I hate the clutch and clunky shifting of floor shifter.
I would absolutely take the paddle shifters when choosing between the two models.
OMG Paddle shifters please! Totally brilliant! My question is how is the automatic shifter holding up when being used a lot on turns and down grades?
this will probably be my first side by side, this review sorta concreted my decision. gonna wait a little longer to see if the bring a turbo version first.
I think it would be one hell of a time to throw a sequential trans and paddle shifters in the RZR XP Turbo. Might even be able to put more power to the ground...
I think Yamaha was smart to do this. as a side by side enthusiast, my first thought when they launched last year was they're limiting their market. adding paddles, opens it up to everyone. smart!
Yes, great idea, next low gearing for trail riding! Sales will go up besides it has more room than the Maverick.
If I had a manual trans in my SxS I would want paddle shifters on it for sure. I had already made that suggestion to a friend of mine within 1 week of the original YXZ coming out.
I'd only consider this ride due to the paddle shift. I like that about the YXZ.
I would love having those paddels because I think with that launch featcher it would be better then dumping the clutch
As a Yamaha fan, I really like this one. As a Rzr owner, I'm liking to upgrade. Thank for making an awesomely me. Video.
I own a 2015 maverick 1000 turbo its really nice love the machine but man would I love to switch to a 1000r ss with the paddle shifters I would love that so much honestly been waiting for someone to come up with like that.
paddle shifters would be a great improvement over foot clutching. Does the auto clutch take anything away from acceleration ?
I think for pure sport SXS the paddle shifters are the answer, I knew when the YXZ came out that shifting gears manually would become tiresome, anyone who has off roaded in a 4X4 (jeep/truck) knows your leg can get tired unless you just crawl along in Lo. but the Auto clutch and paddle shifters are a great option, isn't that what F1 cars use too? I'd love to have paddle shifters ! Saying that, I still think if you do mostly trail riding that the CVT is still better.
I think paddleshifters are a great move in the performance aspect but I personally would prefer the stick and clutch. Something about it makes me feel so much more a part of the vehicle and though it can be a pain, when it's perfect it's hard to beat that feeling.
Heck yea the paddle shifters take the yxz to a different level that it was already on. I am bitter, because Yamaha came out with it 2 weeks after I got mine....But that's why I had a turbo kit installed to ease my mind! I suggest you all do the same!!!!
A few reasons I'd prefer the paddles over the manual and Cvt 1. The trails here are a nightmare for SXS's so having a manual just makes things difficult. 2. You still get the sound and performance advantage of the manual transmission (the steady scream of a Cvt equipped SXS annoys me as a sport quad rider, I want to hear it go threw the gears) 3. It's just more fun than the Cvt without the headache of the clutch. You should do more coverage of the Polaris General 1k, a build series or something.
Stay tuned!
For extreme conditions pedal shifted , I'm glad they here hell yea⚡️
I'd love to have paddle shifters on a SxS. I've never owned a SxS but I've drove plenty of them. I could see how that could be a fun compromise between a manual transmission and a cvt. (My truck is a stick shift so I know how your leg can get tired with the clutch)
Although in some circumstances I do think a manual is way more fun. Like on straight always where you can really rev it out and run through the gears.