Absolute thing not mentioned here is what is Tom thinking when Doug folds and Wesley slides his hand over for Doug to look. To me he is trying to show strength, and I don't believe for one second he would slide two Kings or two Aces over. I may be wrong, but I think Tom seen that, and then discounts Wesley having the KK or AA .
This style of discussing the hands with the person who's in them, or getting commentary from them, is amazing. The text from Tom took this video to a whole new level, which is certainly something I've come to expect from your content. Thank you!
New Tom is calling there every time. Over the years Tom has become so reckless it seems. But not as much the incredible bluffs we knew him for but now its reckless calls. Very much like DNegs, it's next level poker thinking that's amazing. They can damn near figure out exactly what their opponent has....and then still calling anyway. 💸😂
The only thing he broke down is exposing Tom Dwans angle shooting in live games. I wasn't going to say anything but he obviously trying to make Doug look like an inferior player to Tom Dwan. We both know Doug would smoke Dwan like a joint heads up in a 50k hand match online at holdem. He would get completely obliterated.
Possibly one of the best hand breakdown videos ever. The level of access is what sets you apart on your content Phil, and as much as it may feel overbearing in your relationships with your friends/colleagues, it sets your content apart. Bravo.
Watching Tom play live is a treat. Whether he is bluffing or has the nuts his demeanor and expression does not change, and never has. Just my opinion of course.
I didn't know they were good friends! That's pretty cool actually. I would have thought Dwan would think Galfond was too nice and Galfond would think Dwan is a little too harsh.
Phil, this was a joy on all fronts. You're taking us into such depth with the thought process of a poker prodigy and providing all of us with a clinic on poker psychology. Outstanding job.
Tom is always so calm, it's interesting to see him get genuinely pissed off at the table for behaving out of line. He's 100% justified, it's just a rare sight to see.
This level of hand reading and the thought process of some of the worlds best poker players will always be interesting. Thank you for the amazing content, don't stop.
Thanks Phil. Great to hear your thoughts/analysis. The table talk after these hands were some of the best parts of the stream. Would appreciate more of these.
Gem breakdown, Phil. Thanks! Uniquely insightful due to your well-known deep poker knowledge, and your long-standing friendship with Tom. e.g. "Of all the poker players who I've talked strategy with...Tom has the most thoughts per minute of everybody." Lol, what a great nugget that explains part of modern poker history. Aside: Always happy to see Tom win big, reminds me of his super-entertaining High Stakes Poker days.
Thanks so much for the well-thought out feedback! I doubt I’ll have this level of personal insight into most hands that are played, but I’ll look for more opportunities in the future!
I’ve been playing since ‘03. I’ve come back to this video 3-4 times over a month period. I think that is an indicator of really good content. I really like the explanation of what you guys think about during hands. Thanks Phil.
This is my favourite video that you've ever made. I got a lot of value out of this, thank you very much! Breaking down how you and Tom use reads to influence your decisions was what I liked the most about the video.
@@Mark-rw3kw I bet you’d fold here. The stakes can’t be overlooked either. Wesley 5 bet pre and triple barreled. He’s credibly repping aces. I think most fold here
First time you’ve talking about your old friend Tom in a positive way in a while! Glad you’re still talking - and glad that you’re putting out these hand reviews that focus on the live elements of poker rather than the ‘correct’ play.
With Doug seeing Wesley's cards, you responded that it would be + EV to flat and play the pot. At what point does integrity takeover + EV? I will start, I saw some guy's hand at a table one time, he was next to act, i had bad cards, got up went to the bathroom and putzed about for a little bit till the hand was over and told the guy to cover his cards when he looks at them. I think even if i had good cards, i personally would not be able to play a hand knowing someone's cards and win his money like that. I think game integrity is one of the most important aspects of a game like poker and if players don't have the integrity to win " the right way ", as in no angle shooting or other nonsense, then those players actually make a very - EV decision in that moment. Just some of my thoughts from an average reg at a muddle of nowhere 1/2 table.
Love how dwan was careful enough to keeps his cards off the reader and make sure he said all in at the end of the hand before moving them to the reader
Regular watcher here.... I enjoyed the hand breakdown - particularly that you were outside of hand charts (as you usually are) and more into the psychological choices, reads and re-reads (as the hand progresses). Nicely done. What might add value is analysis as to how these mistakes might play at lower levels. Obviously the reads and counters playing at these levels are unique, stratospheric and particular to the pro game under extremely deep circumstances. Most of us are not playing at those levels. Most of us are not even playing with people who know about two or three level deep thinking. Getting your take on these plays at lower levels would give us even more to take to the tables. However, this was EXTREMELY well done. Thank You!
Best hand reviews of all time. Great insight (of course) and the video pacing is perfect and voiceover volume and tone are impeccable. More of this please 🏆
This may be the best video I've ever seen analyzing poker hands, especially with this kind of money at stake. So thank you Phil for that! As a poker lifer I can fully appreciate what Phil has to say about how the hands played out and what his conversations with Tom revealed. I just gained a helluva lot more appreciation for both these men. I've had the dubious honor to be beaten in two key hands at the WSOP by Tom many years ago. He called me down in a Stud hand when I had big cards showing (with 6,6 in the hole) and all he had was a pair of nines. He put a 'soul' read on me is the only way I can explain it. Now I have a better idea on what type of thinking process allows him to make calls like that. I won't bother to share our next hand but suffice to say he read me perfectly, and I've always taken pride in the fact that I'm hard to read. Players like Tom and Phil simply play at a different level than most of us!
It doesn't even matter what video you make. Your voice and the fact that I feel like I'm getting smarter every time I listen to you, is a good enough reason to watch it. Thanks again Phil. Big fan since 2014. RIO made me a lot of money :D.
Great analysis Phil. I’ve watched a couple breakdowns of this hand from different pros like Doug and other TH-camrs but this video gave extra insight that I didn’t have before!
First video I’ve seen of yours. Love it. Calm, clear analysis. No drama. Insightful text message screenshots from Dawn showing us his thinking was an outstanding bonus. Love how both of you came to the same conclusion but by following two different lines of thought regarding the pre-flop behavior of Doug and Wesley. Can anyone suggest some similar videos from Phil?
Great analysis, you may not be an NL expert but you’re the exploit king! Pretty cool you’re still pals with Tom, nice to get the additional insight there. Off topic but I especially appreciate your background knowledge on the pro scene and what you know about individual players. Thanks!
“Hey guys, Doug Polk here.” “Hey everyone, Phil Here.” The subtle nod was genius. Whether the thumbnail was also a nod to Polk, or you’re just upping your click-bait game; I respect it. I’ve worked my way through your catalog, and now I’m here for every new upload. This channel is IT, y’all. Philly G is outside. He’s OUTSIDE.
Haha. There are no hidden nods here. I’ve said “hey guys” in my training videos for 15 years. Started to sometimes go more gender neutral a few years ago.
It's not lost on me that having this kind of education from one of the best, most-feared-yet-nicest poker players on the planet freely available has added a lot to my winnings in this game. Thank you for the education and entertainment, you're a legend Phil!
Glad this showed up on my feed. Always been a fan of your since watching your 1v1 matches on Twitch. This is great, thanks for sharing, and yes, more of these types of videos please.
Tom’s reverse live tells were insane.. he’s basically turning his hand face up as uncomfortable 10s-qs, and he is uncomfortable, but is also goading wes into continuing to fire based on his pre flop read
The fact that we get in on the discussion between Tom and you, I feel already priviledged to get to know what you guys are talking about. And then to make it into TH-cam content, that's premium. Please make some more Phil, I'm loving that. And thank you.
Thanks for the great analysis, and also for including Tom's thought process as a bonus, I really liked Tom's table presence and confidence in this one, And Daniel was completely right: everything you do at a poker table conveys information 😅
to the last part of wat you said with regards to everything you do at a poker table conveys information, thats why phil ivey is so much better playing live poker than he is playing online. yes he crushed it during the 00s and before black fridays, but he started losing out in the end more recently. why is this the case, because phil iveys greatest strength, in my eyes, is his ability to read the room, read the air and the vibe of the person that hes up against. basically the person in the hand conveys information with every little tick that he has, and phil ivey is not able to utilize this at all playing online poker, thus robbing phil ivey of his greatest advantage. and then of course when phil plays live he always seemingly makes the correct decisions, folding top pairs on the turn to a made flush, making the right jam the pot bluffs in a bluff on bluff hand. there hes able to read everything someone is doing at a poker table, and assess the information that he processed there.
This is an excellent breakdown in how to play "exploit" poker. It shows how to think like a Bayesian. You do an excellent job of explaining the skill of identifying the important information and how to incorporate it into your mental model. You also do a great job of plainly describing how to update your belief throughout the hand and how this translates to decision making. Just top notch content.
I think there's one more element. When a player knows another player knows your hand there's a little extra bravado at play and maybe that factored into the triple barrel. It worked both ways when Wesley saw Doug's hand and Doug went for the big bluff as well - although Doug is SOOOOO measured I don't know how much that really factored.
Interesting!! I agree there’s some element of “let’s beat him” when someone else is kind of in it with you. Hard to know if it played a role, but it could’ve.
@@PhilGalfond U really should ... although personally I'm not a big Doug Polk fan when it comes to his poker play. A long time ago I thought he was the best cash game player in the world, a long, long time ago. But now? I'd take action against him.
This is a super awesome video. The action is cool, but the break down by Phil supported by the texts from Tom Dwan just makes it one of the best poker videos I have seen for a long while.
@@Mark-rw3kwHow do you know Wesley had 100% of himself? Just curious. I don’t rly know his background. I believe Doug had 25%, I forget how much he lost overall in the game. You’ll find that many ppl don’t have 100% in games of this magnitude. I’d be surprised if Tom did, you just never know. It’s mostly the wealthy businessmen who are gonna have 100. Really hard to be rolled for a game like this as a poker player. Like if Galfond played this game I believe he’d sell some piece. Idk what % he’d sell but it’d be some I would think. If Phil sees this I’m sure he’d confirm he’s not gonna bring three $1M bullets and not sell x%. Again maybe I’m wrong but ya. This comment isn’t to defend anyone or anything, it’s just to shed a bit of reality on the situation on how common it is. Doug just has a popular platform so he shared the fact. He could’ve surely sold the pieces privately to friends. I don’t think it’s necessary to tell ppl what % you have of yourself unless someone in the game has a piece…which I believe is not great in the first place unless EVERYONE knows and is fully okay with it. It’s extremely common in live MTTs to swap %s w friends, I’m sure Phil has done that. In like the WSOPME maybe you swap x% with a few friends for a sweat. A lot of live MTT players also sell big packages where they’ll sell 50% or w/e to a bunch of ppl, or they’ll have a staking arrangement etc. It’s unlikely to end up at the same table as your backer in these massive fields, but if that did happen, I would tell the table if someone who had a very large piece of me was at the table. If it’s someone I swapped like 3-5% with I wouldn’t feel the need to. Just my thoughts on this stuff. I’ve sold pieces of myself in large cash games before (obv nowhere near this lol, large for me, 10/25/50 euros game when I was at an EPT.) I sold like 35% to a buddy, he didn’t play in the game I wouldn’t feel comfortable w that at all. I’ve also swapped in a cpl large live MTTs, I’m not an MTT player it’s an occasional thing for me but I have friends that are and know how common it is. I haven’t played live in like 5 years beside a handful of times locally.
@@BOnYTB Wesley Fei made millions in crypto, although his exact net worth right now is not public info (especially since Bitcoin and other cryptos have decreased in value since their highs). So he didn't need any staking, and he bought in for about $3 million, when most everyone else bought in for about $1 million. Also, I don't think he has any kind of poker following that would allow him to raise that much money. I watched those hands live on TH-cam (with delay for security reasons) and I don't think he is a good enough poker player to get people to stake him. Doug Polk's financial situation is much different, and he has actually quit playing poker, because he has a family now (his wife had their first child earlier this year) and playing poker was not really profitable for him (although he is involved in making money via his TH-cam channel and connection with an Austin poker room). I think he bought in for over $1.5 million, and I am pretty sure was mostly staked. Given the amount of money he lost, if that was all his (or even 33% his) I think his wife would have killed him (literally). I don't think anyone, even a multi-millionaire, would have been that carefree as Doug seemed to be after losing so much in that session. Even Wesley was shaken when he lost most of his stack and he can actually afford to lose it (and I think he is single). Since Doug Polk is a respected poker player, he could get staked by a lot of people, not just friends of his. There are a lot of "poker staking" websites where anyone can stake big name stars, but I don't know for a fact if Polk used those for this game.
@Mark-rw3kw Doug has plenty of money to cover himself. He also has been playing again since he opened his room in Austin. Also, a other revenue stream.
@@kevinstucki8644 Doug doesn't have 100% of himself in this game. He said so himself, the game is too big for him at this point in his life (with a baby and all). He had 3 bullets (3M) ready to fire, of which, 25% was his own.
Great phil. I always thought your approach to the game was one of the best in terms of playing but also all the things around. And also your presence at rhe tables, always fair and great. And finally i ve been waiting so long we re talking abiut live reads. Timing of bets, talks and behavior without forgetting the numbers. Excellent thanks and please more!
9:49 Wesley said: “it’s fine you are going to just fold, right?” So he did hear and more importantly did acknowledge him, but Doug missed it,so did everyone else I love this content Thank you
I'm really glad you put some subtitles in some of their table talks. I'm not a native speaker and sometimes it's tough to understand when they don't speak clearly.
Phil - don’t you think the right thing to do from Doug’s perspective is say nothing, and then if he has a foldable hand just fold? Remove yourself from the awkwardness, just fold, and tell Wesley next hand to cover his cards better
i remember commenting on your video when you had about 5k subs and telling you to keep it up and that it starts slow but you will certainly build a following. I haven't stopped watching your videos since and you are by far my favorite poker commentator. It's nice to have someone who has been so successful in poker share their wisdom. In a subtle way you are my pseudo coach and I very much appreciate that you are so willing to share your thoughts and wisdom regarding the complexities of poker. I absolutely loved this type of video. I think there aren't many other poker commentators doing videos like this and the fact that you are able to reach out and get some real, after the fact, discussion from the player made this even more relavent. It would be different if we were entirely speculating on what Durr is thinking and having those little bits of convo really does add something. I also appreciated that you stated your personal opinion of the situation before sharing what Durr thought. I know I said it before but I'll say it again. Thank you so much for the videos. I know they take a lot of time and energy to make. I sincerely appreciate the fact that you take time away from your family to share this with me and I wish you and your family the best!
This is why you NEVER show. It only leads to weird reads, or more importantly, and not mentioned: You are WAY more likely to bluff, be stubborn, or show off (get in a spot they normally might not) when someone else knows what you have. Human psycho 101 --> we are performative, cocky beings! The cameras watching is enough pressure, but its a bit removed at least cuz you can still hide/lie to the table.
Idea for Polk: next time you see an opponents hand, look at your hand first. If you see crap like T2, keep your mouth shut and fold. If you‘re going to play, then tell your opponent once that you‘ve seen his hand, not a million times.
I thought the first hand was a bit of a nit roll on the end and agree that Tom should have raised. I thought the slow roll was maybe punishment for the clock call, and the flat call forces Doug to show his bluffs. I am not as good as TD at live reads so my raise recommendation is based mainly on counting combos that can call. Very interesting to have insider info on Dwan’s live reads. Great video!
For those who are new to poker Dwan made Galfond worldwide famous when he announced his hu challenge (before he played jungleman) that he will play anyone in the world hu except Phil Galfond…
The text messages impressed me alot ,that was cool! Very nice how you explained the thought patterns ect. I put Dwan on KK vs. Wesley at first , I loved how at first that Dwan's hand was not to be seen . ..... " All in ?4sure!? .... okay , I'm gonna get a water !..... wtf is going on !?" Imma leave a sub Phil!
Phil, I've always loved any videos in which you explain your (or others') thought processes. It's amazing to see some of the concepts that go through your head that I never would have even realized were things to consider in the first place.
Great Video Phil! Yes please to more hand reviews. I think its that you know those involved in this hand so well that make this one especially good viewing. I feel like Ive watched hundreds of breakdowns of this particular hand since first watching it live on the steam yet still you seem to be adding something new.
This was an excellent video. I love the differences in how you, and Doug, and Dwan all interpret the same information. Really shows the human aspects of the game.
This was an excellent video by you phil. i love all the inside it provided by you and tom as well. you usually do not get the players thoughts in a hand review. I would to see more like this. it brought a whole new perspective with hand analysis, thank you
That was great. So fascinating to get an insight into the mental processes at this level of poker. Love the presentation style and quality of content Phil Galfond. Thanks very much.
Hi Phil, just wanted to echo the thoughts here - outstanding presentation, technical analysis, rare access (yourself and Tom are obviously poker legends in your own rights, but casually sharing messages of chats with him / his thought process is next level stuff😆)
Thank you thank you thank Phil. We never get to hear about live reads in the hand that we witness that are unvocalized. Really appreciate the extra insight after texting with Tom, along with your own reads.
Seeing old school Tom Dwan and few sessions in more recent time it's clear that he adjusted his style just like Phil Ivey. They were so loose aggressive back in a day and now they feel like rocks or tight aggressive players. Back In a day competition was more straightforward value heavy and now everyone have bluffs in their range and with loose image they have now they just play solid value heavy style. It's great to see.
I went back to watch you play while you were young and im fascinated, i never played poker, probably never will. This kind of analysis and content is absolutely very engaging and entertaining
this is my first time stumbling across your channel, and this video was excellent. if you make more videos like this where you break down reads and hands i'll absolutely come back
Great breakdown. Flatting the 77 seemed like a good play. I really thought Doug would fold 22 and K6 to a jam anyways, plus the needle with 77 after getting the clock called was pure magic.
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collusion in these games
but good video
you could be a therapist
Absolute thing not mentioned here is what is Tom thinking when Doug folds and Wesley slides his hand over for Doug to look. To me he is trying to show strength, and I don't believe for one second he would slide two Kings or two Aces over. I may be wrong, but I think Tom seen that, and then discounts Wesley having the KK or AA .
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You seem to be the most polite, yet clearly dangerous poker pro, thanks for the vids fella
This style of discussing the hands with the person who's in them, or getting commentary from them, is amazing. The text from Tom took this video to a whole new level, which is certainly something I've come to expect from your content. Thank you!
Wow, thank you! I’ll try to deliver like this in the future, but it was a big help that Tom was so forthcoming.
Yeah. The hindsight wisdom is stupendous lol. Both from Tom and Galfond
Couldn’t agree more
New Tom is calling there every time. Over the years Tom has become so reckless it seems. But not as much the incredible bluffs we knew him for but now its reckless calls. Very much like DNegs, it's next level poker thinking that's amazing. They can damn near figure out exactly what their opponent has....and then still calling anyway. 💸😂
Yes please on more hand breakdowns Phil. You're an excellent presenter.
Thank you so much!
@@PhilGalfondVideo is so well paced. Only focusing on important points and not drawing it out for no purpose. Excellent stuff.
I agree wholeheartedly 100%
Couldnt agree more ❤
The only thing he broke down is exposing Tom Dwans angle shooting in live games. I wasn't going to say anything but he obviously trying to make Doug look like an inferior player to Tom Dwan. We both know Doug would smoke Dwan like a joint heads up in a 50k hand match online at holdem. He would get completely obliterated.
Possibly one of the best hand breakdown videos ever. The level of access is what sets you apart on your content Phil, and as much as it may feel overbearing in your relationships with your friends/colleagues, it sets your content apart. Bravo.
Watching Tom play live is a treat. Whether he is bluffing or has the nuts his demeanor and expression does not change, and never has. Just my opinion of course.
Phil reviewing his good friend Tom's hands is excellent content.
Thank you 😊
Amazing content Phil, easily one of your most entertaining videos. Love the format!
You are a true professional! Very honest and meaningful content ❤
I didn't know they were good friends! That's pretty cool actually. I would have thought Dwan would think Galfond was too nice and Galfond would think Dwan is a little too harsh.
Tom has nice hands. They look soft.
Phil, this was a joy on all fronts. You're taking us into such depth with the thought process of a poker prodigy and providing all of us with a clinic on poker psychology. Outstanding job.
Tom is always so calm, it's interesting to see him get genuinely pissed off at the table for behaving out of line. He's 100% justified, it's just a rare sight to see.
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This level of hand reading and the thought process of some of the worlds best poker players will always be interesting. Thank you for the amazing content, don't stop.
Thank you so much!
Thanks Phil. Great to hear your thoughts/analysis. The table talk after these hands were some of the best parts of the stream. Would appreciate more of these.
Glad to hear you enjoyed this one! I'll do more 😊
@@PhilGalfond Please do and thanks for liking my comment. Id take u and V Selbst against field any day as long as buyin is big enuff!
Gem breakdown, Phil. Thanks! Uniquely insightful due to your well-known deep poker knowledge, and your long-standing friendship with Tom. e.g. "Of all the poker players who I've talked strategy with...Tom has the most thoughts per minute of everybody." Lol, what a great nugget that explains part of modern poker history. Aside: Always happy to see Tom win big, reminds me of his super-entertaining High Stakes Poker days.
Thanks so much for the well-thought out feedback! I doubt I’ll have this level of personal insight into most hands that are played, but I’ll look for more opportunities in the future!
This entire video production was fantastic. From your analysis, to the transistions, graphics, and overall editing was really on point. *Chefs Kiss*
Thank you ❤️😊
Seconded
Title should be, "Maybe you clowns shouldn't be giggling like school girls when gambling 6 figure pots with Tom Dwan."
nailed it
Saying i like that hand knowing that you would never ever say the same with a monster hand is NUTS for these stakes
I’ve been playing since ‘03. I’ve come back to this video 3-4 times over a month period. I think that is an indicator of really good content. I really like the explanation of what you guys think about during hands. Thanks Phil.
THIS IS THE MOST VALUABLE ANALYSIS OF THESE 2 HANDS SO FAR ....what a great job !!! Thanks Phil !!!!!
Their are a lot people good at poker, but very few are good at teaching poker. Mr Galfond you're one of the few good poker coaches.
Thank you so much 😊
This is my favourite video that you've ever made. I got a lot of value out of this, thank you very much! Breaking down how you and Tom use reads to influence your decisions was what I liked the most about the video.
Dwan has been a G.O.A.T for many years now. That pot just cemented it into the history books of poker
Dwan is great, but with his hand I don't think many people would have folded.
@@Mark-rw3kwBased on the tables reactions I disagree.
@@bullyboy131 You disagree with what?
@@Mark-rw3kw I bet you’d fold here. The stakes can’t be overlooked either.
Wesley 5 bet pre and triple barreled. He’s credibly repping aces. I think most fold here
Think I would be raising the 77 hand on river.
First time you’ve talking about your old friend Tom in a positive way in a while! Glad you’re still talking - and glad that you’re putting out these hand reviews that focus on the live elements of poker rather than the ‘correct’ play.
Thanks, Phil and thanks to Tom for agreeing to share some of his thoughts
Big thanks to Tom!!
Phil sounds like he's finding confidence. He's one of the greatest minds we have in poker, I hope he continues to find his voice.
With Doug seeing Wesley's cards, you responded that it would be + EV to flat and play the pot.
At what point does integrity takeover + EV?
I will start, I saw some guy's hand at a table one time, he was next to act, i had bad cards, got up went to the bathroom and putzed about for a little bit till the hand was over and told the guy to cover his cards when he looks at them.
I think even if i had good cards, i personally would not be able to play a hand knowing someone's cards and win his money like that.
I think game integrity is one of the most important aspects of a game like poker and if players don't have the integrity to win " the right way ", as in no angle shooting or other nonsense, then those players actually make a very - EV decision in that moment.
Just some of my thoughts from an average reg at a muddle of nowhere 1/2 table.
Love how dwan was careful enough to keeps his cards off the reader and make sure he said all in at the end of the hand before moving them to the reader
Great take. Didn’t even think of that
Regular watcher here.... I enjoyed the hand breakdown - particularly that you were outside of hand charts (as you usually are) and more into the psychological choices, reads and re-reads (as the hand progresses). Nicely done. What might add value is analysis as to how these mistakes might play at lower levels. Obviously the reads and counters playing at these levels are unique, stratospheric and particular to the pro game under extremely deep circumstances. Most of us are not playing at those levels. Most of us are not even playing with people who know about two or three level deep thinking. Getting your take on these plays at lower levels would give us even more to take to the tables. However, this was EXTREMELY well done. Thank You!
So you want him to break this video down and how it might play at lower stakes? WTF? You want him to do pretend videos? lol
Best hand reviews of all time. Great insight (of course) and the video pacing is perfect and voiceover volume and tone are impeccable. More of this please 🏆
This may be the best video I've ever seen analyzing poker hands, especially with this kind of money at stake. So thank you Phil for that! As a poker lifer I can fully appreciate what Phil has to say about how the hands played out and what his conversations with Tom revealed. I just gained a helluva lot more appreciation for both these men. I've had the dubious honor to be beaten in two key hands at the WSOP by Tom many years ago. He called me down in a Stud hand when I had big cards showing (with 6,6 in the hole) and all he had was a pair of nines. He put a 'soul' read on me is the only way I can explain it. Now I have a better idea on what type of thinking process allows him to make calls like that. I won't bother to share our next hand but suffice to say he read me perfectly, and I've always taken pride in the fact that I'm hard to read. Players like Tom and Phil simply play at a different level than most of us!
Definitely make more videos like this. I love getting insight about live reads and what’s going through the players hands
It doesn't even matter what video you make. Your voice and the fact that I feel like I'm getting smarter every time I listen to you, is a good enough reason to watch it.
Thanks again Phil.
Big fan since 2014. RIO made me a lot of money :D.
Awesome! Thank you so much.
Great analysis Phil. I’ve watched a couple breakdowns of this hand from different pros like Doug and other TH-camrs but this video gave extra insight that I didn’t have before!
I really appreciate that! Thank you, Kyle.
This is one of the best poker videos I’ve ever watched. Thank you Phil Galfond for making it. Thank you Tom Dwan for being Tom Dwan.
First video I’ve seen of yours. Love it. Calm, clear analysis. No drama. Insightful text message screenshots from Dawn showing us his thinking was an outstanding bonus. Love how both of you came to the same conclusion but by following two different lines of thought regarding the pre-flop behavior of Doug and Wesley.
Can anyone suggest some similar videos from Phil?
Great analysis, you may not be an NL expert but you’re the exploit king! Pretty cool you’re still pals with Tom, nice to get the additional insight there. Off topic but I especially appreciate your background knowledge on the pro scene and what you know about individual players. Thanks!
“Hey guys, Doug Polk here.”
“Hey everyone, Phil Here.”
The subtle nod was genius. Whether the thumbnail was also a nod to Polk, or you’re just upping your click-bait game; I respect it.
I’ve worked my way through your catalog, and now I’m here for every new upload.
This channel is IT, y’all. Philly G is outside. He’s OUTSIDE.
Haha. There are no hidden nods here. I’ve said “hey guys” in my training videos for 15 years. Started to sometimes go more gender neutral a few years ago.
My favourite poker content in a while. Thanks Phil and Tom
You’re very welcome!
It's not lost on me that having this kind of education from one of the best, most-feared-yet-nicest poker players on the planet freely available has added a lot to my winnings in this game. Thank you for the education and entertainment, you're a legend Phil!
I would love to see more videos like this. Live reads are the most interesting for me when it comes to poker.
Glad this showed up on my feed. Always been a fan of your since watching your 1v1 matches on Twitch. This is great, thanks for sharing, and yes, more of these types of videos please.
All the Dwan hand histories (especially with texted insight from him) that you wanna do Phil, I promise we're here for it LOL. Keep 'em coming!
Tom’s reverse live tells were insane.. he’s basically turning his hand face up as uncomfortable 10s-qs, and he is uncomfortable, but is also goading wes into continuing to fire based on his pre flop read
The fact that you have spoken with Tom and actually has some of hes thought process, made it great.
Tom is just at another level. Thanks for uploading and analysis, Phil
You’re very welcome 😊
TRUE THAT
On a whole other level
He's frightening... just picks up everything and gets value out of it. I'm legit wearing a Darth Vader suit to any table with Dwan on it.
@@Shivian124 Is that you, Jungleman? (lol)
Smurf accounts are not allowed, Mr. Cates!
The fact that we get in on the discussion between Tom and you, I feel already priviledged to get to know what you guys are talking about. And then to make it into TH-cam content, that's premium. Please make some more Phil, I'm loving that. And thank you.
Thanks for the great analysis, and also for including Tom's thought process as a bonus,
I really liked Tom's table presence and confidence in this one,
And Daniel was completely right: everything you do at a poker table conveys information 😅
to the last part of wat you said with regards to everything you do at a poker table conveys information, thats why phil ivey is so much better playing live poker than he is playing online. yes he crushed it during the 00s and before black fridays, but he started losing out in the end more recently. why is this the case, because phil iveys greatest strength, in my eyes, is his ability to read the room, read the air and the vibe of the person that hes up against. basically the person in the hand conveys information with every little tick that he has, and phil ivey is not able to utilize this at all playing online poker, thus robbing phil ivey of his greatest advantage.
and then of course when phil plays live he always seemingly makes the correct decisions, folding top pairs on the turn to a made flush, making the right jam the pot bluffs in a bluff on bluff hand. there hes able to read everything someone is doing at a poker table, and assess the information that he processed there.
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amazing analysis…i saw this hand many times but only thanks to you i understood now all the subtleties. Tom has an amazing analytical mind.
EXCELLENT breakdown. I loved the analyses of both hands, and the intricacies of the conversation. Please keep it up with content like this Phil
This is an excellent breakdown in how to play "exploit" poker. It shows how to think like a Bayesian. You do an excellent job of explaining the skill of identifying the important information and how to incorporate it into your mental model. You also do a great job of plainly describing how to update your belief throughout the hand and how this translates to decision making. Just top notch content.
I think there's one more element. When a player knows another player knows your hand there's a little extra bravado at play and maybe that factored into the triple barrel. It worked both ways when Wesley saw Doug's hand and Doug went for the big bluff as well - although Doug is SOOOOO measured I don't know how much that really factored.
Interesting!! I agree there’s some element of “let’s beat him” when someone else is kind of in it with you. Hard to know if it played a role, but it could’ve.
Well man that is the word “Bravado”
Learned some things to consider that hadn't when i was watching the playback without your commentary. Thanks, PG!
Yes, more hand reviews, I watch Doug’s and Dnegs a lot and this was excellent. More please ❤
Awesome, thank you! Wasn't sure if I'd do more of these, but the comments coming in are pretty one-sided 😃
Agreed, love this format
@@PhilGalfond U really should ... although personally I'm not a big Doug Polk fan when it comes to his poker play. A long time ago I thought he was the best cash game player in the world, a long, long time ago. But now? I'd take action against him.
oh and he probably was the best just to clarify
@@PhilGalfondabsolutely please do bro, your breakdowns and knowledge of the game are top knotch!!
This is a super awesome video. The action is cool, but the break down by Phil supported by the texts from Tom Dwan just makes it one of the best poker videos I have seen for a long while.
Doug sure took the loss well. Props to him for handling that with class.
The vast majority of Doug's buy-in was staked by others. Wesley's loss was 100% his own money.
@@Mark-rw3kwHow do you know Wesley had 100% of himself? Just curious. I don’t rly know his background. I believe Doug had 25%, I forget how much he lost overall in the game. You’ll find that many ppl don’t have 100% in games of this magnitude. I’d be surprised if Tom did, you just never know. It’s mostly the wealthy businessmen who are gonna have 100. Really hard to be rolled for a game like this as a poker player. Like if Galfond played this game I believe he’d sell some piece. Idk what % he’d sell but it’d be some I would think. If Phil sees this I’m sure he’d confirm he’s not gonna bring three $1M bullets and not sell x%. Again maybe I’m wrong but ya.
This comment isn’t to defend anyone or anything, it’s just to shed a bit of reality on the situation on how common it is. Doug just has a popular platform so he shared the fact. He could’ve surely sold the pieces privately to friends. I don’t think it’s necessary to tell ppl what % you have of yourself unless someone in the game has a piece…which I believe is not great in the first place unless EVERYONE knows and is fully okay with it.
It’s extremely common in live MTTs to swap %s w friends, I’m sure Phil has done that. In like the WSOPME maybe you swap x% with a few friends for a sweat. A lot of live MTT players also sell big packages where they’ll sell 50% or w/e to a bunch of ppl, or they’ll have a staking arrangement etc. It’s unlikely to end up at the same table as your backer in these massive fields, but if that did happen, I would tell the table if someone who had a very large piece of me was at the table. If it’s someone I swapped like 3-5% with I wouldn’t feel the need to.
Just my thoughts on this stuff. I’ve sold pieces of myself in large cash games before (obv nowhere near this lol, large for me, 10/25/50 euros game when I was at an EPT.) I sold like 35% to a buddy, he didn’t play in the game I wouldn’t feel comfortable w that at all. I’ve also swapped in a cpl large live MTTs, I’m not an MTT player it’s an occasional thing for me but I have friends that are and know how common it is. I haven’t played live in like 5 years beside a handful of times locally.
@@BOnYTB Wesley Fei made millions in crypto, although his exact net worth right now is not public info (especially since Bitcoin and other cryptos have decreased in value since their highs). So he didn't need any staking, and he bought in for about $3 million, when most everyone else bought in for about $1 million. Also, I don't think he has any kind of poker following that would allow him to raise that much money. I watched those hands live on TH-cam (with delay for security reasons) and I don't think he is a good enough poker player to get people to stake him.
Doug Polk's financial situation is much different, and he has actually quit playing poker, because he has a family now (his wife had their first child earlier this year) and playing poker was not really profitable for him (although he is involved in making money via his TH-cam channel and connection with an Austin poker room). I think he bought in for over $1.5 million, and I am pretty sure was mostly staked. Given the amount of money he lost, if that was all his (or even 33% his) I think his wife would have killed him (literally). I don't think anyone, even a multi-millionaire, would have been that carefree as Doug seemed to be after losing so much in that session. Even Wesley was shaken when he lost most of his stack and he can actually afford to lose it (and I think he is single).
Since Doug Polk is a respected poker player, he could get staked by a lot of people, not just friends of his. There are a lot of "poker staking" websites where anyone can stake big name stars, but I don't know for a fact if Polk used those for this game.
@Mark-rw3kw Doug has plenty of money to cover himself. He also has been playing again since he opened his room in Austin. Also, a other revenue stream.
@@kevinstucki8644 Doug doesn't have 100% of himself in this game. He said so himself, the game is too big for him at this point in his life (with a baby and all). He had 3 bullets (3M) ready to fire, of which, 25% was his own.
Great phil. I always thought your approach to the game was one of the best in terms of playing but also all the things around. And also your presence at rhe tables, always fair and great.
And finally i ve been waiting so long we re talking abiut live reads. Timing of bets, talks and behavior without forgetting the numbers.
Excellent thanks and please more!
9:49 Wesley said: “it’s fine you are going to just fold, right?” So he did hear and more importantly did acknowledge him, but Doug missed it,so did everyone else
I love this content
Thank you
Doug replied:” I have not looked at my hand yet”
I'm really glad you put some subtitles in some of their table talks. I'm not a native speaker and sometimes it's tough to understand when they don't speak clearly.
All credit goes to my editor, but I’m so glad it made it a better experience for you!
Phil - don’t you think the right thing to do from Doug’s perspective is say nothing, and then if he has a foldable hand just fold? Remove yourself from the awkwardness, just fold, and tell Wesley next hand to cover his cards better
Personally you probably have to fold regardless if you aren’t announcing you saw the hand.
Please do more of these phil. Great production on the webcam and table back and forth and the sounds, all great
Thank you, my producer did a great job 😊 I'll be doing more of these!
i remember commenting on your video when you had about 5k subs and telling you to keep it up and that it starts slow but you will certainly build a following. I haven't stopped watching your videos since and you are by far my favorite poker commentator. It's nice to have someone who has been so successful in poker share their wisdom. In a subtle way you are my pseudo coach and I very much appreciate that you are so willing to share your thoughts and wisdom regarding the complexities of poker. I absolutely loved this type of video. I think there aren't many other poker commentators doing videos like this and the fact that you are able to reach out and get some real, after the fact, discussion from the player made this even more relavent. It would be different if we were entirely speculating on what Durr is thinking and having those little bits of convo really does add something. I also appreciated that you stated your personal opinion of the situation before sharing what Durr thought. I know I said it before but I'll say it again. Thank you so much for the videos. I know they take a lot of time and energy to make. I sincerely appreciate the fact that you take time away from your family to share this with me and I wish you and your family the best!
Amazing how you have Dwan’s “insider knowledge” which gives your analysis even more depth!
This is amazing content. More of the same please, Phil!
This is one of the top5 poker videos ever. Just outrageously good view you grant us into the thought process of Tom.
great video Phil, love this format!
Thank you! 🙂
This is one of the most fascinating analyses of live tells and other intangibles I’ve ever seen. So good.
This is why you NEVER show. It only leads to weird reads, or more importantly, and not mentioned: You are WAY more likely to bluff, be stubborn, or show off (get in a spot they normally might not) when someone else knows what you have.
Human psycho 101 --> we are performative, cocky beings! The cameras watching is enough pressure, but its a bit removed at least cuz you can still hide/lie to the table.
The difference in analysis levels between Dwan and his peers is mesmerizing. If I wanted a coach I would want Dwan!
This was very interesting and great insight into both your and Tom's brilliant poker minds. More of this would definitely be great content. Thanks !
Thank you!!
Phil, I LOVE the commentary...it wasn't the amounts involved, just all of the factors in play...please do more vids like this one
I have to give this to you, there's not a second wasted in your video. Good job!
Idea for Polk: next time you see an opponents hand, look at your hand first. If you see crap like T2, keep your mouth shut and fold. If you‘re going to play, then tell your opponent once that you‘ve seen his hand, not a million times.
Great video and first I've seen of yours. The way you talk as well is very smooth.
Thank you and welcome to the channel!
I thought the first hand was a bit of a nit roll on the end and agree that Tom should have raised. I thought the slow roll was maybe punishment for the clock call, and the flat call forces Doug to show his bluffs.
I am not as good as TD at live reads so my raise recommendation is based mainly on counting combos that can call. Very interesting to have insider info on Dwan’s live reads. Great video!
For those who are new to poker Dwan made Galfond worldwide famous when he announced his hu challenge (before he played jungleman) that he will play anyone in the world hu except Phil Galfond…
The text messages impressed me alot ,that was cool!
Very nice how you explained the thought patterns ect.
I put Dwan on KK vs. Wesley at first , I loved how at first that Dwan's hand was not to be seen . ..... " All in ?4sure!? .... okay , I'm gonna get a water !..... wtf is going on !?"
Imma leave a sub Phil!
Love this anlaysis and getting to hear what Tom was thinking!!
Unique and valuable to learn from.
Phil, I've always loved any videos in which you explain your (or others') thought processes. It's amazing to see some of the concepts that go through your head that I never would have even realized were things to consider in the first place.
Great Video Phil! Yes please to more hand reviews. I think its that you know those involved in this hand so well that make this one especially good viewing. I feel like Ive watched hundreds of breakdowns of this particular hand since first watching it live on the steam yet still you seem to be adding something new.
This was an excellent video. I love the differences in how you, and Doug, and Dwan all interpret the same information. Really shows the human aspects of the game.
You have great tone. nice clear analysis. I'm subscribed. looking forwards to future hand interpretations.
This was an excellent video by you phil. i love all the inside it provided by you and tom as well. you usually do not get the players thoughts in a hand review. I would to see more like this. it brought a whole new perspective with hand analysis, thank you
Great analysis, no nonsense, very informative. Appreciate you speak about tendencies and marginal shift in probability, not absolutes.
That was great. So fascinating to get an insight into the mental processes at this level of poker. Love the presentation style and quality of content Phil Galfond. Thanks very much.
You’re very welcome!
Wesley putting his head down was a huge tell that he was at least semi bluffing.
Excellent content. Enhanced by the fact that you know Tom personally and how he thinks. That makes this extra unique. I enjoyed this.
Phil, this is the most accurate and best review of these 2 hands! Love the content a ton.
Really appreciated this - the thought process to get to calling with the seven's was particularly interesting and informative.
Very concisely explained video of some lesser-utilised live game components. More please. Thank you
Hi Phil, just wanted to echo the thoughts here - outstanding presentation, technical analysis, rare access (yourself and Tom are obviously poker legends in your own rights, but casually sharing messages of chats with him / his thought process is next level stuff😆)
Thank you thank you thank Phil. We never get to hear about live reads in the hand that we witness that are unvocalized. Really appreciate the extra insight after texting with Tom, along with your own reads.
Great video Phil! I'd watched this hand twice prior to this video, your break down was extremely helpful. Thank you.
Your TH-cam grind was amazing already but this is just pure gold. Keep it coming. ❤
Appreciate it very much. Thank you 😊
This was amazing.
Watched this hand many times and this one of the best breakdowns Phil.
Maybe Dwan should think about paying back the massive debts he owes his fellow poker community
By far the most insightful hand reviews. So much respect for you and your contributions to the game. Thanks Phil!
Thank you so much!
Seeing old school Tom Dwan and few sessions in more recent time it's clear that he adjusted his style just like Phil Ivey. They were so loose aggressive back in a day and now they feel like rocks or tight aggressive players. Back In a day competition was more straightforward value heavy and now everyone have bluffs in their range and with loose image they have now they just play solid value heavy style. It's great to see.
This was amazing. Even complete with Durrr texts about it. Great content
Thank you 😊
I could listen to you analyse hands forever, keep em coming!
Yes please continue with these types of videos. It has been very educational. Thank you
I went back to watch you play while you were young and im fascinated, i never played poker, probably never will.
This kind of analysis and content is absolutely very engaging and entertaining
I love how you highlight the table talk of Wesley and Doug cause you know Durr is paying attention to that
The best video of yours I've watched to date. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Cheers!
this is my first time stumbling across your channel, and this video was excellent. if you make more videos like this where you break down reads and hands i'll absolutely come back
Great breakdown. Flatting the 77 seemed like a good play. I really thought Doug would fold 22 and K6 to a jam anyways, plus the needle with 77 after getting the clock called was pure magic.