You two have a lot going for you but the Burgeon vs Sate "No, YOU were more linguistically impressive" debate is truly the height of romance as far as I'm concerned.
I think part of Q1 illustrates the power of punctuation and words! I don’t think the guy was saying he was hurt by anything. I think she meant “[I already knew] He follows IG models, but [I] was hurt about this.”
I understand completely why Maryella feels upset. I was given the "I don't like anything" bullshit line. It hurts and makes you feel insecure and unable to trust the other person.
Re: Q3 - did anyone else get a major red flag from the boyfriend saying he would be okay with her seeing other women *only*? To me that says that he doesn't take her bisexuality seriously, that he doesn't see the possibility of her falling in love with another woman, or even just realizing that she'd rather have a woman partner, as a real risk. You two read that much more charitably than me it seems :) Personally I think a couple like that, which has been together since their teens and is now moving in a marriage direction but also discussing having an open relationship, is actually trying to hit the brakes but not able to admit it to themselves and probably just needs to break up. But hey, she wasn't asking for my advice ;) Enjoying this podcast!!
The guy who watches the old girlfriend’s private account I believe would cheat on the new girlfriend. He is not ready for the new relationship. Andy is always right~ good perspective
I tried listening to this episode instead of watching and it just not the same, especially with the whole “agree to disagree” situation. I love your advice and respect for one another. Very insightful. Lots of hard truths. Keep up the good work!
It took me a while, but I'm on andy's side about the girl dating the celebrity. I think he wants her to have closure and he thinks she'll get that by pushing a little bit further. If the guy shuts down her suggestion to go somewhere, she'll have her answer and can move on. If he doesn't shut her down, maybe that could lead to a more serious discussion of what could happen between them.
Totally agree with Sharleen for the one dating someone famous. The second she gives him more he'll get disinterested, better to not give him the satisfaction or hurt her own pride. Easier to let it fade! (Realize this is old, but these are so fun to think about 😂)
I haven’t even finished this episode but Sharleen at 42:27!!!! I’M DYING! 😂 How many times have I felt that for my friends. No, scratch that. How many times have I felt that for MYSELF. Need to GIF that ASAP.
The agreeing to disagree was by far the most interesting part of this episode. Wonder what other topics have led to agreeing to disagree between the two of you and how you communicate through it? Great podcast as always :)
As to the second question, I totally agree with Andy. (btw, I am female) I think it is a very easy and cool to just ask the guy if he wants to go restaurant with her. If he doesn't want to, then move on. It will be easier for her to move on after she tried. Otherwise, she will always have the doubt her decision or regret left the relationship without trying. And I do agree you don't count the girl's feeling. I like you are objective, but not as much as sensitive as Andy on this one. But you guys are great. I love watching your podcast.
@13:08 is it possible she meant to write "I was genuinely shocked and hurt by this"? The alternative doesn't really make sense in the context of that sentence (where she states that he also follows other instagram model accounts). I feel like perhaps she was trying to convey that she was aware of the others, but was particularly bothered by the ex-girlfriend thing. Regardless, I totally agree with both of your takes on this - so icky and inappropriate.
Hmm I guess it's possible! The original email reads: "He follows a lot IG “models” but was genuinely shocked and hurt about this." I agree it would make more contextual sense with an "I" in there, but it doesn't not make sense either. There aren't any grammatical errors anywhere else in the email so I have to take it as it's written! But yes, the conclusion no matter what is that it's icky and inappropriate. LOVE your attention to detail with this!!
Definitely agree with Sharleen re: Caller 2. Andy is telling her to push a guy forward when she herself acknowledges that she knows that she should stay acting cool. The guy will think she’s desperate for something she hasn’t really shown a desire for. Developing feelings is far different than the psychological move to push a guy to confront something he has not shown a desire to fully face. If the guy has changed, taking a step BACK will do FAR more to get him to confront his own feelings. Andy always says to let the guy lead! Four years of sex does NOT mean that this is any different than the start of another relationship. 1. I had a FWB with a great guy who simply wasn’t right for me that lasted 5-6 years. We did dating things too but when he met “the one,” it was clear and he ended our liaison immediately. No regrets but I was the one who lived abroad and to some extent had the control. 2. Andy’s confusion about it all was fascinating to me. It is totally possible to engage in this kind of entanglement for years. Stepping back is far safer than pushing her to push the guy to “take it to the next level.” How does this make Sharleen cold??
Opinion needed: Would this be in the same realm of sending a person in the relationship forwarding provocative/ thirst trap videos after leaving for work. Deleting them if the wife is around. So the dynamic of the relationship is he know she wouldn’t like it. Relationship is already rocky.
I stumbled on you two. Astrid and Kevin are one of my favorite Bachelorland couples and it was so much fun to watch your interview with them. This post was fun, too! Random question . . . what is the navy paint color on your walls?
Q3 gave me strong Lily & Marshall from How I Met Your Mother vibes, only without the option to have an open relationship in any way. I truly admire people who can handle open relationships, it just seems too risky for me to feel comfortable with it. Then again, I think my asexuality may play a part in that, I've never experience sexual desire for another person, so open relationships feel less like scratching an itch so much as exploring intimacy with others. Like I know I'm taking it too seriously but it's like there's a block in my brain and I just don't understand.
I think celebrity guy is intrigued by her because she has managed to be so illusive and it’s affected his confidence. It’s clear by his actions what he does and doesn’t want and as soon as she says “where is this going” and shows she wants more she’ll be giving him exactly what he wants which is validation. I’m with sharleen on this one. Pull away or keep doing what you’re doing. Let his actions do the telling. Keep the trump card.
As a 26 year old in a 7 year relationship, I totally related to that last email. Although I am not bi-curious, I am also with someone who has only ever been with one person (me) and I remember having the "open relationship" conversation for the exact reason you two touched on - it could be a real test of the strength of the relationship. Ultimately we decided not to do it (the pandora's box thing seemed like too much of a risk) but I remember at the time wondering what Sharleen would think of the situation! Hahah So just out of curiosity, would your advice be the same if she wasn't bi-curious and maybe one (or both) of them simply had some curiousity about what else is out there? (Especially for someone that has only ever been with one person like my boyfriend and Anon's)
I appreciate how you both handled the first question with fervor and alacrity, but admit that I cringe when you call your assessments as "harsh" and "judgy". You both are only being critical on the behaviors outlined, not the actual person. The emailer is petitioning you for help and so you do. We live in environments where there's so much fear about being judgy, when actually, we may in fact need more people who are willing to call our brother and sister out on ill behavior or mistreatment of a significant other. It's refreshing when someone is willing to offer their own insights, albeit uncomfortable ones. So, thank-you both for giving your thoughts. You mentioned Vanessa's comment on the focus of primary relationships and I would take it further by saying that when we're in a dedicated, primary relationship, offering custody of the eyes is part and parcel with it. Meaning, that even if there is the temptation to see an ex's racy Instagram account, it's not necessary or good for the primary relationship to feed curiosities. If we can't refrain from compulsivity, it doesn't bode well for other areas of our lives, nor does it foster a wholesome relationship with the person we're in relationship with. I can make the gift of myself to my boyfriend by having custody of the eyes and keeping him my primary focus rather than feeding every stimulation and fostering curiosities. I was pretty dismayed with your responses to the second question! The opposite of love is not hatred, it is usury. You describe the woman as super smart.How is this woman smart when she and this man are in an exchange of long-term usury? Both are culpable of something that is the opposite of love. How ugly, indeed. Every person on the earth is to be deemed subject, not object. To treat or to be treated as a mere object, and as a mere means to an end (sex), goes against the individual integrity of a person or persons. To laud the emailer for sustaining a four year exchange of merely sex and for being able to emotionally distance herself from her partner is really saddening. So very, very saddening. It's as if we have accustomed ourselves to eating out of a dumpster rather than allowing ourselves to eat at a sumptuous feast. The depths of mediocrity are breathtaking. If I were to synthesize the details of the nature of their relationship, I would say this. (And this is just based on the details of it all. I do not know the individuals.) These two people have a deep fear of deep intimacy.
In the second question, she did mention that she was still seeing other people. It didn't work out with them so that's why she continued sleeping with the celeb. It's not always a deep fear of intimacy, sometimes you don't have access to a "sumptuous feast" and you're single for extended periods of time. If she doesn't want to stay abstinent for what could be months or years, and has good sex with this celeb, what's the problem? It's very hard to find good sex as a woman so I can understand why she would continue seeing him. At least she didn't put all her eggs in one basket and dated other guys. It's not her fault it didn't work out with them.
No borderline about it ,in this world very few are loyal and yes the world series it as ok but it's cheating period .Nothing is special if they share it with everyone
I agree w Andy about the insta models it’s not a huge deal on its own esp with other great qualities. It also depends on the quantity - if it’s like 5 that’s fine for me. And also yes I would categorize onlyfans essentially under porn
Seems like the guy in the second situation is the dog and he has peed on her, she is the tree and he doesn't want other guys peeing on her. Wants her all to himself but not to actually be in a relationship with her.
I know this is old, but I actually don't think she has any reason to be this upset because it is long distance and I do not think they are dating. To date long distance a couple must be so committed prior to the distance that they know you want marriage long term. Otherwise you are a parking spot wasting time and using eachother if you are in the same city. She knows he's a fboy. He's does look at women as objects. He also has no self respect to follow an ex gfs page. Like if she dumped you then you are a simp. If he dumped her then why are you watching her still half naked? It does not bode well.
The scenario around the 28 minute marks sounds like the woman has switched the narrative. It sounds like the "she" is describing "him" but it's actually reversed in reality. "She" is describing herself in the male position. That's my interpretation. It doesn't sound believable. Also, these type of relationships are just a mess. I honestly don't know how people can waste 4 years in a noncommittal mess. Yikes. Ok, to each their own, but yikes.
Hi Sharleen and Andy, I want to apologize for an earlier comment I made that was incredibly hurtful. Reading it back and seeing the reply to it left me feeling completely confused as to what effect I thought making that statement would have. I’ve admired you and followed you for a long time, and I very seriously and earnestly wish you and Andy all the best. My statements were criticizing an attitude towards sex workers that I believe is prevalent among people, but that does not mean you or Andy hold those opinions or that those opinions in some way reflect your value or worth as a human. Again, I am incredibly sorry about the ugly, unkind remarks. I will still be tuning in (comment box left untouched) because I find a lot of humor, value, and joy by listening to these episodes. If you saw my comment, I hope it didn’t weight on your heart and mind too heavily and I apologize from the bottom of my heart if it did. Keep being yourselves. I love it, even if I didn’t convey that appropriately today.
It's funny how you guys are talking about it like it's a math problem and wondering how each other didn't come to the same answer. I think she would be fine if she took either one of your advice. I think we all see this man isn't someone she should be with.
I'm curious about the 3rd couple...is religion a factor? Did they grow up in a small town with minimal exposure or are they in a big city where there's unlimited exposure? When you read the email, I felt like he was OK with her being with a woman because he doesn't see it as a threat -- that's where the small town and religion could be a factor...he may have no understanding or appreciation for single sex relationships -- I realize she said she's bi-curious; however, she hasn't explored her sexuality so who knows where it could lead. In his mind, there may be no scenario where that affects their relationship. He may think she'll try it and realize it's not what she wants and that will be that. Hey, there's a chance it could be that simple, but there's a better chance that it's not. Just saying, my first reaction was not that he was sexually excited by the possibility of his girlfriend hooking up with another girl so he could watch.
They missed the point in the first question, its the guys ex hes following not some random ig model. Its uncomfortable because hes following his half naked ex on ig and only fans
Hahaha! Poor Margie, having her name hypothetically dragged through the mud. ;)
I was just waiting for ya'll to google OnlyFans to confirm Andy's definition was more correct. 😅
I think only fans is a problem for guys in long term relationships since I feel like it’s more on a personal level .
I've been binge watching older episodes and am SO entertained! Love you guys.
I wouldn't be with someone who follows 'instagram models'... tells you where their mind is at.
You two have a lot going for you but the Burgeon vs Sate "No, YOU were more linguistically impressive" debate is truly the height of romance as far as I'm concerned.
Haha the height of romance AND the height of obnoxiousness 😂
I think part of Q1 illustrates the power of punctuation and words! I don’t think the guy was saying he was hurt by anything. I think she meant “[I already knew] He follows IG models, but [I] was hurt about this.”
I understand completely why Maryella feels upset. I was given the "I don't like anything" bullshit line. It hurts and makes you feel insecure and unable to trust the other person.
He doesn’t need to “like” anything on Instagram... because now you can SAVE posts without your followers or the original poster knowing :\
Beware
Re: Q3 - did anyone else get a major red flag from the boyfriend saying he would be okay with her seeing other women *only*? To me that says that he doesn't take her bisexuality seriously, that he doesn't see the possibility of her falling in love with another woman, or even just realizing that she'd rather have a woman partner, as a real risk. You two read that much more charitably than me it seems :) Personally I think a couple like that, which has been together since their teens and is now moving in a marriage direction but also discussing having an open relationship, is actually trying to hit the brakes but not able to admit it to themselves and probably just needs to break up. But hey, she wasn't asking for my advice ;) Enjoying this podcast!!
Honestly, most men don't take female bisexuality seriously--that is, until they are left for a woman.
I kept crossing my mind that he is curious and if she explores it will open the door for him to explore.
The guy who watches the old girlfriend’s private account I believe would cheat on the new girlfriend. He is not ready for the new relationship. Andy is always right~ good perspective
I tried listening to this episode instead of watching and it just not the same, especially with the whole “agree to disagree” situation. I love your advice and respect for one another. Very insightful. Lots of hard truths. Keep up the good work!
It took me a while, but I'm on andy's side about the girl dating the celebrity. I think he wants her to have closure and he thinks she'll get that by pushing a little bit further. If the guy shuts down her suggestion to go somewhere, she'll have her answer and can move on. If he doesn't shut her down, maybe that could lead to a more serious discussion of what could happen between them.
“I follow a lot of ex gf porn accounts but I swear I don’t like them!”😂
Andy is hilarious !
Also, love the Nespresso lungo demitasse on the table
Totally agree with Sharleen for the one dating someone famous. The second she gives him more he'll get disinterested, better to not give him the satisfaction or hurt her own pride. Easier to let it fade! (Realize this is old, but these are so fun to think about 😂)
Can we have a follow-up on some of these?! Pleeeeeease? :)
A great one as always! Just so you know, you have a fan in Serbia :)
WOW so cool! My longtime vocal coach is Serbian and I've always loved hearing about the country. Thanks for sharing this. 🤩
Also fan from Croatia! :)
It's the deflated tire reaction at 42:28 for me 😂
Hahaha sometimes you just have no words 😂😂
I haven’t even finished this episode but Sharleen at 42:27!!!! I’M DYING! 😂 How many times have I felt that for my friends. No, scratch that. How many times have I felt that for MYSELF. Need to GIF that ASAP.
The agreeing to disagree was by far the most interesting part of this episode. Wonder what other topics have led to agreeing to disagree between the two of you and how you communicate through it? Great podcast as always :)
As to the second question, I totally agree with Andy. (btw, I am female) I think it is a very easy and cool to just ask the guy if he wants to go restaurant with her. If he doesn't want to, then move on. It will be easier for her to move on after she tried. Otherwise, she will always have the doubt her decision or regret left the relationship without trying.
And I do agree you don't count the girl's feeling. I like you are objective, but not as much as sensitive as Andy on this one.
But you guys are great. I love watching your podcast.
Sharleen, I love the "Phenomenally Asian" tee! Are you aware of the Asian American Girl Club?
I actually wasn't but I just looked it up and LOVE their stuff. Thanks for sharing!
Please do bachelorette recaps together!
@13:08 is it possible she meant to write "I was genuinely shocked and hurt by this"? The alternative doesn't really make sense in the context of that sentence (where she states that he also follows other instagram model accounts). I feel like perhaps she was trying to convey that she was aware of the others, but was particularly bothered by the ex-girlfriend thing. Regardless, I totally agree with both of your takes on this - so icky and inappropriate.
Hmm I guess it's possible! The original email reads: "He follows a lot IG “models” but was genuinely shocked and hurt about this." I agree it would make more contextual sense with an "I" in there, but it doesn't not make sense either. There aren't any grammatical errors anywhere else in the email so I have to take it as it's written! But yes, the conclusion no matter what is that it's icky and inappropriate. LOVE your attention to detail with this!!
I admire Andy’s debating prowess and Trump impression cracked me up, but absolutely agree with your take on the celebrity FWB. Such a relatable email!
There are a lot of women in the same shoes as the first person who wrote in and I feel it’s hardly spoken about ☹️
You guys are hilarious loved watching this❤️
It's cute how you guys don't know what's an onlyfans, God bless you)
I'd no idea before someone told me kk))
Shandy are so cute together. Love you, guys!
Definitely agree with Sharleen re: Caller 2. Andy is telling her to push a guy forward when she herself acknowledges that she knows that she should stay acting cool. The guy will think she’s desperate for something she hasn’t really shown a desire for. Developing feelings is far different than the psychological move to push a guy to confront something he has not shown a desire to fully face.
If the guy has changed, taking a step BACK will do FAR more to get him to confront his own feelings. Andy always says to let the guy lead! Four years of sex does NOT mean that this is any different than the start of another relationship.
1. I had a FWB with a great guy who simply wasn’t right for me that lasted 5-6 years. We did dating things too but when he met “the one,” it was clear and he ended our liaison immediately. No regrets but I was the one who lived abroad and to some extent had the control.
2. Andy’s confusion about it all was fascinating to me. It is totally possible to engage in this kind of entanglement for years. Stepping back is far safer than pushing her to push the guy to “take it to the next level.” How does this make Sharleen cold??
Opinion needed: Would this be in the same realm of sending a person in the relationship forwarding provocative/ thirst trap videos after leaving for work. Deleting them if the wife is around. So the dynamic of the relationship is he know she wouldn’t like it. Relationship is already rocky.
I stumbled on you two. Astrid and Kevin are one of my favorite Bachelorland couples and it was so much fun to watch your interview with them. This post was fun, too!
Random question . . . what is the navy paint color on your walls?
Omg… coincidentally my situation is a mix of the first and second situations 🤦🏻♀️ God help me 🙏🏼
Q3 gave me strong Lily & Marshall from How I Met Your Mother vibes, only without the option to have an open relationship in any way. I truly admire people who can handle open relationships, it just seems too risky for me to feel comfortable with it. Then again, I think my asexuality may play a part in that, I've never experience sexual desire for another person, so open relationships feel less like scratching an itch so much as exploring intimacy with others. Like I know I'm taking it too seriously but it's like there's a block in my brain and I just don't understand.
I think celebrity guy is intrigued by her because she has managed to be so illusive and it’s affected his confidence. It’s clear by his actions what he does and doesn’t want and as soon as she says “where is this going” and shows she wants more she’ll be giving him exactly what he wants which is validation. I’m with sharleen on this one. Pull away or keep doing what you’re doing. Let his actions do the telling. Keep the trump card.
As a 26 year old in a 7 year relationship, I totally related to that last email. Although I am not bi-curious, I am also with someone who has only ever been with one person (me) and I remember having the "open relationship" conversation for the exact reason you two touched on - it could be a real test of the strength of the relationship. Ultimately we decided not to do it (the pandora's box thing seemed like too much of a risk) but I remember at the time wondering what Sharleen would think of the situation! Hahah
So just out of curiosity, would your advice be the same if she wasn't bi-curious and maybe one (or both) of them simply had some curiousity about what else is out there? (Especially for someone that has only ever been with one person like my boyfriend and Anon's)
I appreciate how you both handled the first question with fervor and alacrity, but admit that I cringe when you call your assessments as "harsh" and "judgy". You both are only being critical on the behaviors outlined, not the actual person. The emailer is petitioning you for help and so you do. We live in environments where there's so much fear about being judgy, when actually, we may in fact need more people who are willing to call our brother and sister out on ill behavior or mistreatment of a significant other. It's refreshing when someone is willing to offer their own insights, albeit uncomfortable ones. So, thank-you both for giving your thoughts.
You mentioned Vanessa's comment on the focus of primary relationships and I would take it further by saying that when we're in a dedicated, primary relationship, offering custody of the eyes is part and parcel with it. Meaning, that even if there is the temptation to see an ex's racy Instagram account, it's not necessary or good for the primary relationship to feed curiosities. If we can't refrain from compulsivity, it doesn't bode well for other areas of our lives, nor does it foster a wholesome relationship with the person we're in relationship with. I can make the gift of myself to my boyfriend by having custody of the eyes and keeping him my primary focus rather than feeding every stimulation and fostering curiosities.
I was pretty dismayed with your responses to the second question!
The opposite of love is not hatred, it is usury. You describe the woman as super smart.How is this woman smart when she and this man are in an exchange of long-term usury? Both are culpable of something that is the opposite of love. How ugly, indeed. Every person on the earth is to be deemed subject, not object. To treat or to be treated as a mere object, and as a mere means to an end (sex), goes against the individual integrity of a person or persons. To laud the emailer for sustaining a four year exchange of merely sex and for being able to emotionally distance herself from her partner is really saddening. So very, very saddening. It's as if we have accustomed ourselves to eating out of a dumpster rather than allowing ourselves to eat at a sumptuous feast. The depths of mediocrity are breathtaking. If I were to synthesize the details of the nature of their relationship, I would say this. (And this is just based on the details of it all. I do not know the individuals.) These two people have a deep fear of deep intimacy.
In the second question, she did mention that she was still seeing other people. It didn't work out with them so that's why she continued sleeping with the celeb. It's not always a deep fear of intimacy, sometimes you don't have access to a "sumptuous feast" and you're single for extended periods of time. If she doesn't want to stay abstinent for what could be months or years, and has good sex with this celeb, what's the problem? It's very hard to find good sex as a woman so I can understand why she would continue seeing him. At least she didn't put all her eggs in one basket and dated other guys. It's not her fault it didn't work out with them.
Dear Shandy was this the seventh year fight ? 🤔
I am glad you got through it. 😄
I think she needs to be okay with it/open to it or else he is not for her or else she will have to change her mind about it.
I wouldn't like it.
It’s P(Corny) 😂😂😂
No borderline about it ,in this world very few are loyal and yes the world series it as ok but it's cheating period .Nothing is special if they share it with everyone
Love this big time.
Just subscribed...i like yalls input on things i have a topic i would like to know yalls input i dont know how to send my topic?
Hi, email dearshandy@gmail.com. It’s in the description box.
I hate when mom and dad fight 😭
I agree w Andy about the insta models it’s not a huge deal on its own esp with other great qualities. It also depends on the quantity - if it’s like 5 that’s fine for me. And also yes I would categorize onlyfans essentially under porn
Is it Only Fans or Fans Only as Sharleen says?
I think the email said OnlyFans but Sharleen was calling it Fans Only.
When do we get an update?!!
Sharleen, do you actually know what OnlyFans is??? 😅
😲🤯😳 he a red flag why he do that 😂
Seems like the guy in the second situation is the dog and he has peed on her, she is the tree and he doesn't want other guys peeing on her. Wants her all to himself but not to actually be in a relationship with her.
YUP
I know this is old, but I actually don't think she has any reason to be this upset because it is long distance and I do not think they are dating.
To date long distance a couple must be so committed prior to the distance that they know you want marriage long term. Otherwise you are a parking spot wasting time and using eachother if you are in the same city. She knows he's a fboy.
He's does look at women as objects. He also has no self respect to follow an ex gfs page. Like if she dumped you then you are a simp. If he dumped her then why are you watching her still half naked? It does not bode well.
The scenario around the 28 minute marks sounds like the woman has switched the narrative. It sounds like the "she" is describing "him" but it's actually reversed in reality. "She" is describing herself in the male position. That's my interpretation. It doesn't sound believable. Also, these type of relationships are just a mess. I honestly don't know how people can waste 4 years in a noncommittal mess. Yikes. Ok, to each their own, but yikes.
Hi Sharleen and Andy, I want to apologize for an earlier comment I made that was incredibly hurtful. Reading it back and seeing the reply to it left me feeling completely confused as to what effect I thought making that statement would have. I’ve admired you and followed you for a long time, and I very seriously and earnestly wish you and Andy all the best. My statements were criticizing an attitude towards sex workers that I believe is prevalent among people, but that does not mean you or Andy hold those opinions or that those opinions in some way reflect your value or worth as a human. Again, I am incredibly sorry about the ugly, unkind remarks. I will still be tuning in (comment box left untouched) because I find a lot of humor, value, and joy by listening to these episodes. If you saw my comment, I hope it didn’t weight on your heart and mind too heavily and I apologize from the bottom of my heart if it did. Keep being yourselves. I love it, even if I didn’t convey that appropriately today.
It's funny how you guys are talking about it like it's a math problem and wondering how each other didn't come to the same answer. I think she would be fine if she took either one of your advice. I think we all see this man isn't someone she should be with.
I'm curious about the 3rd couple...is religion a factor? Did they grow up in a small town with minimal exposure or are they in a big city where there's unlimited exposure? When you read the email, I felt like he was OK with her being with a woman because he doesn't see it as a threat -- that's where the small town and religion could be a factor...he may have no understanding or appreciation for single sex relationships -- I realize she said she's bi-curious; however, she hasn't explored her sexuality so who knows where it could lead. In his mind, there may be no scenario where that affects their relationship. He may think she'll try it and realize it's not what she wants and that will be that. Hey, there's a chance it could be that simple, but there's a better chance that it's not. Just saying, my first reaction was not that he was sexually excited by the possibility of his girlfriend hooking up with another girl so he could watch.
onlyfans is porn
They missed the point in the first question, its the guys ex hes following not some random ig model. Its uncomfortable because hes following his half naked ex on ig and only fans
No, they didn't miss the point. They spoke extensively about how it was strange that it was his ex.