Thank you Shandy for another great episode. Im 25 and my education background has always taught me how to write exams and succeed in career, but no one has taught me how to approach a relationship. I can’t expressed how grateful I’m for you guys and this podcast, a sincere thank you!
I just adore the dynamic between you two. You truly are made for one another and it’s so wonderful to see a great example of what healthy relationships should look like. You both sparkle when together or talking about one another. Congrats on your union and being the inspiration you are. Stef from NZ xxxxxxxxxxxx :)
RE the yellow vs red flag - I feel like him saying “did I?!” on the date makes it a red flag - she had to PULL a confession out of him. That makes me feel like he is dishonest by nature
agreed! the yellow flag guy is definitely a big red flag aka NO. I also thought it was strange that he wanted to be exclusive after the 3rd date...that's pretty fast considering they still barely know each other.
Omg you two are amazing. I loved listing to this podcast today. So wonderfully done. You both have wonderful personalities and are so well rounded. Please continue with this podcast because it is so refreshing and educational. I am 51 and all this info is so helpful. This is coming from a woman who was raised by strict parents and have had very little life experience. All this to say I am very hard on myself when in reality its very normal and you are showing me I am ok, its ok. Thank you again. A huge fan.
Your comment gave me the feels! I know what it feels like to be hard on yourself-if there's one thing I've learned from doing my share of dating, it's what I expressed in this episode at 55:55: It's OK to take things a bit less seriously, to be able to laugh at ourselves, and to remember, as you said, that "I am ok, it's ok." And in my experience, that can be transformative with dating, too, as that is the type of mindset other people want to be around. Thank you for your kind comment and wishing you well! ❤️
I just want to comment on men lying on their dating profiles about “small” things like height or age - in my experience, it’s a sign that the lying could be more pervasive. Eg, someone I dated a few years ago- After a few dates and a Google, I realized that he was lying about his name (it was slightly different but he played it off as “some of my friends call me… “X”) and then a few dates after that I realized he’s lying about his age (43 on the dating app, 47 in real life - I mean, come on), and soon after THAT, discovered he is married. Word of warning to ladies (and gents) out there - in my experience, if they lie once, it is a sign of character (and insecurity, like Shandy said!)- and there’s a good chance they’re lying about a whole lot more.
Re: question 3. On average, women are more attractive than men, and women are more forgiving about looks than men are. So it's not surprising that Kerry matches with hotter women than men. Especially since women outnumber men by 7 million in the US. That number doesn't include all the gay men (who outnumber lesbians) or men in jail (men are disproportionately incarcerated). If a critical mass of women were more demanding about looks (like men are) then men would put more effort in their appearance. They're not doing that right now because they still have access to women like Kerry. Ladies don't settle unless that's truly what you want. If enough of us stayed single, things would shift in our favor. Supply vs. demand. Remember men never date below their league if they don't have to. That's why they go for the supermodels as soon as they become hot/rich (Ryan Seacrest, Kevin Hart, Lil Wayne, Jesse Williams, Evan Spiegel, Adam Collard, Dave Grutman). They don't extend that same courtesy towards us so why should we?
I really love the dynamic you two have! You’re both so charming and bright. However, I think you handled the call about the guy feeling insecure that his girlfriend is maintaining relationships with exes and people she’s had sex with a little insensitively. Is the guy just automatically in the wrong for feeling insecure and vulnerable? I agree he shouldn’t have snooped through her phone and said it’s “because he loves her”. But I think there is some legitimacy in having boundaries to keep your partner comfortable and for your own sanity. I understand you’re both confident and non-jealous, but I don’t think everyone is like that. I personally find it hard to maintain relationships with exes because they were people I cared very deeply for and it’s hard to switch to friend mode. In short, I don’t think this person is choosing to feel insecure / jealous and I think where his actions / words were wrong, his feelings came from a human place.
Love Andy’s perspective on most answers. Love that he completely dismisses the idea of men being intimidated by higher educated women. Such a stupid question.
This was a delightful episode and a great way to start my day. I enjoy hearing your perspectives and feel like I learn so much from each episode. I empathize with Carrie (Kerry?) from question 3. I, too, live in DC and have been going through similar experiences as her for awhile. I will try your advice, Shandy. Thanks!
I don’t think anything was wrong with the first callers relationship other than what sharleen said. The girl is just more used to and into more attention from guys.
I think having ties with your ex, while you are in a fully committed relationship with another person, opens the door for infidelity, and several people have experienced just that. Regardless of how confident and trusting they were of their partners. For many, it is flat out disrespectful. Men who are upset about their girlfriends still communicating with an ex have the right to leave that relationship, and should not lower their standards. It really has nothing to do with penis size.
So... Q7 was interesting to me. I think I used to agree 1000% (HAHA) with how important sex was in a relationship and have had a pretty extensive sex life through my mid twenties without being in an actual dating relationship for almost 5 years during that time. That said, a year ago I (31F) started dating a man (29M) who is a virgin and is so for his religious reasons which I very much respect and have made the decision to not have sex until we are married. I have such an emotional connection with him that I have no fear at all about what the sex may be like and I feel so unbelievably satisfied with our relationship without it. Anyway, I was just surprised how much my opinion changed (like I said I was 100% exactly y'all's line of thinking ) and worth a comment.
I've always read your Bachelorette Pretty Pandas and Flare recaps, and started listening to your podcast this year, ever since your first Bachelorette podcast. Started at episode 1, and now here at episode 16. I am really enjoying them, and how honest you are. As much as you've an accomplished writer, you are, Shandy, both talented conversationalists. Sharleen, you are such a great lead, excellent delivery and bring intelligent point of view on every subject. Andy, you are clever, and you bring colour and humour. Such a fabulous team! Congrats! I particularly liked this episode. You were able to cover 8 questions ; a perfect amount in my opinion! Your answers were at the same time comprehensive and concise! Well done! Question for Andy about Q7; how long was too long that it became annoying? I'm just curious :-)
Thanks for creating this wonderful podcast! It’s a real treat to listen to, and both of you make me laugh out loud! Also, thanks for not cursing excessively! It’s surprising how hard it is to find “mom friendly” things to listen to! I only have one request- that you don’t link bad behaviors to a physical attribute one has no control over. I know, I sound annoying and holier than thou when I write that but I really don’t mean to. I’m no better, but I guess I do hope for kinder messages from people with platforms!
Hi, do you mind sharing which physical attribute you are referring to in your comment. I skip around in these, as I listen often in the car.. anyway, curious, thanks
Sharleen looking “relatable” is looking like she stepped out of an ig ad for lounge wear. She’s literally wearing a cream two piece sweat suit with hair fully styled. Call me when you’re hair is unwashed and you’re in an old tshirt or hoodie with baggie flannel sweats you never returned to your ex. That, I would relate to.
They're not cashmere but they feel like it! 😘 Top: www.vicicollection.com/products/silent-mode-thermal-knit-top-brown-sugar Pants: www.vicicollection.com/products/silent-mode-ribbed-knit-pants-brown-sugar
I wonder if the woman asking about leagues has considered that maybe she's just into into guys at all? It seems odd that she can't be physically attracted to a guy at all unless they're super, super attractive?
You two are extremely respectable humans-love it!! Can I ask an extension question in regards to the 'fake breast' question/remarks...i had cancer and ended with a double mastectomy with NO reconstruction surgery. I have however bought prosthetics and have worn them once on a first date...Fair? Unfair? Would love your opinions please!!!
I'm not them so this is my unsolicited opinion. Of course its fair, I believe. whatever you do to feel comfortable is fair in that arena. If a guy thinks you're being deceptive.. run.. I would consider that extremely insensitive/messed up. Take care!😊hope you are well.
Must respectfully disagree. If she's looking for a sincere relationship, any lie straight out of the gate is a RED flag. Demonstrates a certain comfort level with lack of integrity. Why should she need to spend any of her time looking to be sure again if he might be lying to her...a THIRD time? 🤷🏼♀️ Seriously? Not my guy for certain.
Also as you get older and advance in a career, who has the time to text everyday and spend time everyday? Two to three days a week is already more than enough unless they do things together such as working out together etc. so you don't compromise your Daily routine..
I'm gonna say the guy who lied is already displaying signs of a deeper issue. Sorry...I've been down that road...dont do it. There are too many good guys out there who wouldn't do that.
The league thing is so true and it’s frustrating.. I’ve liked guys who I thought were “in my league”.. meaning moderately good looking, intelligent and funny but they all went for women who were way hotter than me. They didn’t show any interest in me at all and they were considered the nerdier guys.. I wasn’t going for the hottest guys out there..
Blair Santillana lol I went for an Indian nerdy guy once who used be overweight..but lost a lot of weight. I’m also Indian and weight is average. However, when he was asked by another girl if he dates Indian girls.. he said he dated white girls., and I heard he liked white girls with blue eyes. The way he answered that, he only wanted white girls.. not anything less., as if other races of women are “beneath” his standards even though he himself is not white. He ended up marrying a skinny white girl with blue eyes.... what is that then lol.. so he can go way out of his league but I’m going for guys in my league who still don’t want me..
Okay. I'm thinking long and hard about the league definition. First off I'm going to be so sad when I'm caught up on your podcast. That will be a very sad day. I do wish you all talked a bit more about sex, but other than that I'm beyond obsessed with you two and you make this hopeless romantic believe in love. Second, related to leagues, the guys that would commit to me are different than the guys that do commit to me because I normally see they would commit and try to date higher than that. Awful but true. Just my take on how that definition works or doesn't work. Love youuuu
I think the caller for question three is going to have some issues. I agree with you that your league is the average of people who will commit to you. The issue I see here is that she said every single person who has committed to her she finds unattractive. I fear that unfortunately she wants to date people that are not in her league.
Re: question 1. It doesn't mean much if he's been in long term relationships, especially if he was unattractive or broke. He could have been settling for all you know. Those types of guys especially, don't have access to consistent sex outside of the confines of a relationship. They are serial daters because that's all that they can get. Women are still more selective about sex than men are. So these types of guys give the bare minimum to keep the gf around until she demands engagement. At which point they either end things or go through with the marriage. Some men even go so far as marrying women that they settled for because of societal pressure, aging, they want children, they want a wife, etc. Just because he dates you it doesn't mean he's into you.
Holy fuck! The first woman is obviously in the wrong. Her basic question is "Why doesn't he worship me?" (a sign of selfishness and immaturity) when all her past relationships where that happened, it obviously didn't work out. #geezwoman
I thoroughly disagree with the assessment about the guy who lied about his age and height. Age is more forgivable and a more practical lie - possible to get away with it. Height, on the other hand - why such an exaggeration; a person will know immediately if someone is THREE inches shorter than what is stated on their profile.
See I disagree. It’s all about motive. A shorter guy who lies about his height by a couple inches (and it’s not that easy to gauge a couple inches’ difference - He didn’t say he was 6 feet) is doing it bc he’s insecure. The issue is his own insecurity bc of societal beauty standards. However he lied about his age purely to mislead a potential date. There is nothing to be insecure about by being 31 - in fact quiet the opposite, many 20 year old women would find a slightly older man more attractive. But if he wanted to date younger women, and he thought that would be more possible if they thought he was in his 20s, then he’s deliberately misleading them by lying. But lying about his age is in part a reflexive move born out of insecurity. As women we might do the same thing when we dye our roots, or put concealer over a pimple - we aren’t trying to lie about our appearance but we feel self conscious and less desirable so we do things that mask the truth.
How is lying about your height and age NOT A RED FLAG?!??!?! BOOOOOOO to you guys! WRONG WRONG WRONG! You don't lie about these things! Are women allowed to lie about their height, face, job? WTF
I also appreciate that Andy knows it’s FLESHED out and not FLUSHED out 👏 👏 👏
This is the best dating podcast of life I’m obsessed
Yes!!!!
I wish they could rate our dating app profiles and give suggestions - think they would give fun and helpful feedback!
That would be a good one to watch! I would even participate.
Thank you Shandy for another great episode. Im 25 and my education background has always taught me how to write exams and succeed in career, but no one has taught me how to approach a relationship. I can’t expressed how grateful I’m for you guys and this podcast, a sincere thank you!
Such a thoughtful comment - thank you! And happy Thanksgiving! ❤️
I just adore the dynamic between you two. You truly are made for one another and it’s so wonderful to see a great example of what healthy relationships should look like. You both sparkle when together or talking about one another. Congrats on your union and being the inspiration you are. Stef from NZ xxxxxxxxxxxx :)
RE the yellow vs red flag - I feel like him saying “did I?!” on the date makes it a red flag - she had to PULL a confession out of him. That makes me feel like he is dishonest by nature
agreed! the yellow flag guy is definitely a big red flag aka NO. I also thought it was strange that he wanted to be exclusive after the 3rd date...that's pretty fast considering they still barely know each other.
actually lying about your age to 'score younger chics' is slimy and totally a red flag!
Omg you two are amazing. I loved listing to this podcast today. So wonderfully done. You both have wonderful personalities and are so well rounded. Please continue with this podcast because it is so refreshing and educational. I am 51 and all this info is so helpful. This is coming from a woman who was raised by strict parents and have had very little life experience. All this to say I am very hard on myself when in reality its very normal and you are showing me I am ok, its ok. Thank you again. A huge fan.
Your comment gave me the feels! I know what it feels like to be hard on yourself-if there's one thing I've learned from doing my share of dating, it's what I expressed in this episode at 55:55: It's OK to take things a bit less seriously, to be able to laugh at ourselves, and to remember, as you said, that "I am ok, it's ok." And in my experience, that can be transformative with dating, too, as that is the type of mindset other people want to be around. Thank you for your kind comment and wishing you well! ❤️
Love this episode, great advice!
I’m so glad I ran into your podcast. I am an instant fan! Your couple dynamic is hilarious and adorable
i immediately hit like upon knowing & seeing Sharleen was wearing her pjs, which are way super cute & cozy looking by the way.
I just want to comment on men lying on their dating profiles about “small” things like height or age - in my experience, it’s a sign that the lying could be more pervasive. Eg, someone I dated a few years ago- After a few dates and a Google, I realized that he was lying about his name (it was slightly different but he played it off as “some of my friends call me… “X”) and then a few dates after that I realized he’s lying about his age (43 on the dating app, 47 in real life - I mean, come on), and soon after THAT, discovered he is married. Word of warning to ladies (and gents) out there - in my experience, if they lie once, it is a sign of character (and insecurity, like Shandy said!)- and there’s a good chance they’re lying about a whole lot more.
In England we say route the other way haha, phonetically pronounced 'root'
Re: question 3. On average, women are more attractive than men, and women are more forgiving about looks than men are. So it's not surprising that Kerry matches with hotter women than men. Especially since women outnumber men by 7 million in the US. That number doesn't include all the gay men (who outnumber lesbians) or men in jail (men are disproportionately incarcerated). If a critical mass of women were more demanding about looks (like men are) then men would put more effort in their appearance. They're not doing that right now because they still have access to women like Kerry. Ladies don't settle unless that's truly what you want. If enough of us stayed single, things would shift in our favor. Supply vs. demand. Remember men never date below their league if they don't have to. That's why they go for the supermodels as soon as they become hot/rich (Ryan Seacrest, Kevin Hart, Lil Wayne, Jesse Williams, Evan Spiegel, Adam Collard, Dave Grutman). They don't extend that same courtesy towards us so why should we?
@S_Jay men are more attractive with beards and hair transplants. Without....not so much
I really love the dynamic you two have! You’re both so charming and bright. However, I think you handled the call about the guy feeling insecure that his girlfriend is maintaining relationships with exes and people she’s had sex with a little insensitively. Is the guy just automatically in the wrong for feeling insecure and vulnerable? I agree he shouldn’t have snooped through her phone and said it’s “because he loves her”. But I think there is some legitimacy in having boundaries to keep your partner comfortable and for your own sanity. I understand you’re both confident and non-jealous, but I don’t think everyone is like that. I personally find it hard to maintain relationships with exes because they were people I cared very deeply for and it’s hard to switch to friend mode. In short, I don’t think this person is choosing to feel insecure / jealous and I think where his actions / words were wrong, his feelings came from a human place.
Love Andy’s perspective on most answers. Love that he completely dismisses the idea of men being intimidated by higher educated women. Such a stupid question.
25:09, totally agree about Sharleen's statement about leagues. It's the commitment.
This was a delightful episode and a great way to start my day. I enjoy hearing your perspectives and feel like I learn so much from each episode. I empathize with Carrie (Kerry?) from question 3. I, too, live in DC and have been going through similar experiences as her for awhile. I will try your advice, Shandy. Thanks!
I don’t think anything was wrong with the first callers relationship other than what sharleen said.
The girl is just more used to and into more attention from guys.
I love your podcasts! :)
Andy was obsessed with you? Just shows how smart he is! I’m obsessed with you, too and I’m an old straight female!
I think having ties with your ex, while you are in a fully committed relationship with another person, opens the door for infidelity, and several people have experienced just that. Regardless of how confident and trusting they were of their partners. For many, it is flat out disrespectful. Men who are upset about their girlfriends still communicating with an ex have the right to leave that relationship, and should not lower their standards. It really has nothing to do with penis size.
So... Q7 was interesting to me. I think I used to agree 1000% (HAHA) with how important sex was in a relationship and have had a pretty extensive sex life through my mid twenties without being in an actual dating relationship for almost 5 years during that time. That said, a year ago I (31F) started dating a man (29M) who is a virgin and is so for his religious reasons which I very much respect and have made the decision to not have sex until we are married. I have such an emotional connection with him that I have no fear at all about what the sex may be like and I feel so unbelievably satisfied with our relationship without it. Anyway, I was just surprised how much my opinion changed (like I said I was 100% exactly y'all's line of thinking ) and worth a comment.
Learned a lot, Shandy!
I've always read your Bachelorette Pretty Pandas and Flare recaps, and started listening to your podcast this year, ever since your first Bachelorette podcast. Started at episode 1, and now here at episode 16. I am really enjoying them, and how honest you are. As much as you've an accomplished writer, you are, Shandy, both talented conversationalists. Sharleen, you are such a great lead, excellent delivery and bring intelligent point of view on every subject. Andy, you are clever, and you bring colour and humour. Such a fabulous team! Congrats! I particularly liked this episode. You were able to cover 8 questions ; a perfect amount in my opinion! Your answers were at the same time comprehensive and concise! Well done! Question for Andy about Q7; how long was too long that it became annoying? I'm just curious :-)
Thanks for creating this wonderful podcast! It’s a real treat to listen to, and both of you make me laugh out loud! Also, thanks for not cursing excessively! It’s surprising how hard it is to find “mom friendly” things to listen to!
I only have one request- that you don’t link bad behaviors to a physical attribute one has no control over. I know, I sound annoying and holier than thou when I write that but I really don’t mean to. I’m no better, but I guess I do hope for kinder messages from people with platforms!
Hi, do you mind sharing which physical attribute you are referring to in your comment. I skip around in these, as I listen often in the car.. anyway, curious, thanks
Sharleen looking “relatable” is looking like she stepped out of an ig ad for lounge wear. She’s literally wearing a cream two piece sweat suit with hair fully styled. Call me when you’re hair is unwashed and you’re in an old tshirt or hoodie with baggie flannel sweats you never returned to your ex. That, I would relate to.
ok my first question is what are those pajamas? they look like cashmere 🤤
They're not cashmere but they feel like it! 😘
Top: www.vicicollection.com/products/silent-mode-thermal-knit-top-brown-sugar
Pants: www.vicicollection.com/products/silent-mode-ribbed-knit-pants-brown-sugar
@@dearshandy ahh yummy and affordable, thank you!!
I wonder if the woman asking about leagues has considered that maybe she's just into into guys at all? It seems odd that she can't be physically attracted to a guy at all unless they're super, super attractive?
Today I learned it’s not flushed out 😅😮😅
I just noticed that this is Sharpen from the Bachelorette 😳♥️♥️♥️♥️🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
You two are extremely respectable humans-love it!!
Can I ask an extension question in regards to the 'fake breast' question/remarks...i had cancer and ended with a double mastectomy with NO reconstruction surgery. I have however bought prosthetics and have worn them once on a first date...Fair? Unfair? Would love your opinions please!!!
I'm not them so this is my unsolicited opinion. Of course its fair, I believe. whatever you do to feel comfortable is fair in that arena. If a guy thinks you're being deceptive.. run.. I would consider that extremely insensitive/messed up. Take care!😊hope you are well.
Must respectfully disagree. If she's looking for a sincere relationship, any lie straight out of the gate is a RED flag. Demonstrates a certain comfort level with lack of integrity. Why should she need to spend any of her time looking to be sure again if he might be lying to her...a THIRD time? 🤷🏼♀️ Seriously? Not my guy for certain.
yep...you guys rock!
Also as you get older and advance in a career, who has the time to text everyday and spend time everyday? Two to three days a week is already more than enough unless they do things together such as working out together etc. so you don't compromise your Daily routine..
I'm gonna say the guy who lied is already displaying signs of a deeper issue. Sorry...I've been down that road...dont do it. There are too many good guys out there who wouldn't do that.
The league thing is so true and it’s frustrating.. I’ve liked guys who I thought were “in my league”.. meaning moderately good looking, intelligent and funny but they all went for women who were way hotter than me. They didn’t show any interest in me at all and they were considered the nerdier guys.. I wasn’t going for the hottest guys out there..
How old are you? Once women hit 30 it gets harder.
@@littlebird8346 in my late 20s but I had this problem in my teens and early 20s too
You must have overestimated your league then. it’s not the guys, it’s you. you rate yourself higher than most would rate you.
Blair Santillana lol I went for an Indian nerdy guy once who used be overweight..but lost a lot of weight. I’m also Indian and weight is average. However, when he was asked by another girl if he dates Indian girls.. he said he dated white girls., and I heard he liked white girls with blue eyes. The way he answered that, he only wanted white girls.. not anything less., as if other races of women are “beneath” his standards even though he himself is not white. He ended up marrying a skinny white girl with blue eyes.... what is that then lol.. so he can go way out of his league but I’m going for guys in my league who still don’t want me..
Okay. I'm thinking long and hard about the league definition. First off I'm going to be so sad when I'm caught up on your podcast. That will be a very sad day. I do wish you all talked a bit more about sex, but other than that I'm beyond obsessed with you two and you make this hopeless romantic believe in love. Second, related to leagues, the guys that would commit to me are different than the guys that do commit to me because I normally see they would commit and try to date higher than that. Awful but true. Just my take on how that definition works or doesn't work. Love youuuu
Yes!! Please do something on hot-crazy scale but for men! 28:30
I think the caller for question three is going to have some issues. I agree with you that your league is the average of people who will commit to you. The issue I see here is that she said every single person who has committed to her she finds unattractive. I fear that unfortunately she wants to date people that are not in her league.
Funny enough, pronouncing route "root" is the English (British) way of pronouncing it
Hahaha whoops!! 🙈
@@dearshandy I'm American and I pronounce it "root" so I'm with you!
Q3 - I I I I I I I I i I I
Re: question 1. It doesn't mean much if he's been in long term relationships, especially if he was unattractive or broke. He could have been settling for all you know. Those types of guys especially, don't have access to consistent sex outside of the confines of a relationship. They are serial daters because that's all that they can get. Women are still more selective about sex than men are. So these types of guys give the bare minimum to keep the gf around until she demands engagement. At which point they either end things or go through with the marriage. Some men even go so far as marrying women that they settled for because of societal pressure, aging, they want children, they want a wife, etc. Just because he dates you it doesn't mean he's into you.
Holy fuck! The first woman is obviously in the wrong. Her basic question is "Why doesn't he worship me?" (a sign of selfishness and immaturity) when all her past relationships where that happened, it obviously didn't work out.
#geezwoman
I thoroughly disagree with the assessment about the guy who lied about his age and height. Age is more forgivable and a more practical lie - possible to get away with it. Height, on the other hand - why such an exaggeration; a person will know immediately if someone is THREE inches shorter than what is stated on their profile.
See I disagree. It’s all about motive. A shorter guy who lies about his height by a couple inches (and it’s not that easy to gauge a couple inches’ difference - He didn’t say he was 6 feet) is doing it bc he’s insecure. The issue is his own insecurity bc of societal beauty standards. However he lied about his age purely to mislead a potential date. There is nothing to be insecure about by being 31 - in fact quiet the opposite, many 20 year old women would find a slightly older man more attractive. But if he wanted to date younger women, and he thought that would be more possible if they thought he was in his 20s, then he’s deliberately misleading them by lying. But lying about his age is in part a reflexive move born out of insecurity. As women we might do the same thing when we dye our roots, or put concealer over a pimple - we aren’t trying to lie about our appearance but we feel self conscious and less desirable so we do things that mask the truth.
.. 😘
How is lying about your height and age NOT A RED FLAG?!??!?! BOOOOOOO to you guys! WRONG WRONG WRONG! You don't lie about these things! Are women allowed to lie about their height, face, job? WTF
Q1- what a narcissistic question
Amen!
Yep - wants the love bomb not a real relationship