Great information in the video. Helped me diagnose my pump but I had to listen to a couple parts 3 or 4 times cause the back ground music was so loud. Maybe tone that back a little. But very well spoken, to the point, great info, and very well explained. Thank you so much!
Not just under slab leak but slow leaking toilet flush flap. My pump cycles about every 20-30 minutes we have a 2nd bathroom we hardly use and the flapper is leaking now. I need to replace it to keep the pump from short cycling. Good video other then the music lol
Precisely the problem with my well pump. The tank casing had eroded to a point where no air could be pumped into it. Many thanks for the insight. I am off to buy a new tank.
Very nice of you to explain this. I was lost when you talked about this tire shrader valve you mentioned, so had to see its image online. Now I know what to do before calling a well company. Thank you!
Never knew the tank had a bladder and from what you described as a bladder failure sounds very close to whats been happening to my system. Wasn't exactly what i wanted to hear but at least i know whats to be expected. I'm about to go now and check the tank valve and see if thats it. Thanks for the info. you have helped me tremendously!!!!
Thanks for your info, my pump has been short cycling lately and I just checked the air chuck in the tank and it IS pushing water out the nozzle!!! ARGH!!
Thanks for this! I just had the pressure switch fail on my well pump, so replaced that. Now, the pressure gauge needle flops around between 40/60 psi. It doesn't move smoothly at all, AND my tankless water heater tries to turn on whenever the toilet is flushed, which is new. I hope the tank just needs to be recharged and isn't waterlogged 🤦🏻♀️ living in the Wisconsin countryside is one thing after another! Sheesh!
I still have a galvanized tank from the early 80's. Not a lick of rust on it and it's been sitting outside here in Florida for 40 years. I just had my well pump replaced, dated 1988 on the pump! The well specialist recommened replacing the tank with a bladder tank to the tune of $1300 and I said you must be insane. never had a problem with short cycling either.
Hey Tim. Great video. There is nothing worse for a pump system than rapid cycling. However, all the things you mentioned that can go bad like the bladder in the tank, the pressure switch, even leaks under the slab are all caused by the so called "normal cycling" that happens when your pump runs for just a minute or two to pressurize the tank and system. Adding a Cycle Stop Valve does just what the name implies and stops the destructive cycling. The CSV makes the tank, pump, pressure switch, and everything else in the pump system last longer while delivering strong constant pressure to your house, and works with much smaller and less expensive tanks.
i always do a tap test with my multi tool for hollow sound at the top of the tanks.. when replacing the tanks the tank pressure should be balanced with the water pressure . info for your viewers tim.. good video tim . billy joe
Yes sir it should Good point billy Set air pressure in tank 2 lbs. lower than cut on pressure so if you have a 30/50 switch your air pressure in tank should be set at 28 lbs. thanks for dropping by 😎
thanks for the video, at first check I had just air come out of my pressure tank but it was higher pressure than expected, as I checked again a little water came out. then as the pressure went down more water came out, looks like I'm replacing my tank.
HOwdy, We had a bad cold snap down south. 8 degrees then didn't get above freezing for days. My water lines caught hell. SO did my well pump and pressure tank. Replaced one line, and one line on gas hot water heater. Thawed well, replaced pressure gauge, thawed tank. Installed new pressure gauge on well got it adjusted and had decent water pressure everywhere minus the kitchen sink. no hot or cold, just barley running. Adjust pressure switch and got decent flow in kitchen hot and cold and lost cold in my tub...I searched for leaks there are none no clogs that I know of pump isnt cycling on and off great pressure everywhere, outside fauctes are like firehoses good hot water pressure in tub, no cold, bathroom sink is fine toilet is fine, Im out of answers please advise..Its a 50/30 well motor and Im set really close to that, tank pressure is at 28..I dont have a clue, water is clear too
I watched your video and I knew none of your options were my issue. I did a quick one day set up to have a backup water supply since they're going to shut down my water tomorrow. I have a small 100 gallon tank connected to a pump with a pressure switch which is connected to the plumbing in my house. I don't believe I need a pressure tank because I have an adequate size pump that won't have any issues pressurizing the system. So my problem was once I got everything hooked up it was short cycling bad. Almost instantaneous on and off. I had to scratch my head, search some videos didn't find the answer, scratched my head again and then realized I'm an idiot. There has to be a check valve after the pump. Otherwise the water is just pressurizing in the system and then flowing back through the pump into the reservoir. This is pretty obvious if you're thinking it through carefully. But when you're throwing it together in an emergency you might skip something like this. And if you did now you know what to look for. My short cycle issue disappeared after installing a check valve. This was still a very good helpful video and will help somebody who had an effective system set up that stopped working.
I’ve got a deep well setup with a pump in the bottom of the well. I have replaced pressure switch and tank and it’s still short cycling. I think it’s a failed check valve that’s above my submersible pump. The pump kicks on satisfy’s the pressure then immediately gets expelled back down into the well via a failed check valve and kicks the pump back on. Any thoughts?
I am working on an irrigation system that gives the well pump constant power, and is short cycling I think at the pressure switch? Seems like the sprinkler controller should regulate the well pump but I guess thats not how they do it
Thanks for the video Tim!! I have a well pump that is short cycling and I have replaced the Well Pressure Switch 30/50 and tested the tank and it checks out ok (Tap test and only air is coming out of the top)...i'm scratching my head... your video is great and I thank you for posting... can you recommend a video on how to properly turn the water on to the rest of the house after you change out the switch? thanks
Hey Tim.... you will never guess what happened.... Cra Cra... Crazy. I replaced pressure switch... still crazy clicking short cycle. Pipes all tight no leaks. So pressure tank is working. I replaced pressure switch 3 times. I am a contractor and put in my own 20 foot short well. It's our seashore summer home. So I knew it was something Electric. So the pump is in our back little shed and we have a 15 foot extension cord that plugs in outside. So I thought just maybe... maybe it's the freaking extension cord. My wife thought... hmmmm... that wont work. BINGO... BAM... FREAKING BAM!!!!! Yes it did work Tim. I don't give up until I get it... last year hot water tank no hot water and relaxed both heating elements and both thermostats. Still no hot water. Then I thought maybe it's the breaker that us bad.. BINGO... FREAKING BINGO... 12 bucks for breaker 40 bucks for other stuff and I love it... Thanks again for your video
Pump was short cycling, replaced pressure switch and pressure tank. Made sure pressure was correct on tank, still short cycling. No leaks, pressure stays the same as long as no faucets are on. Could it be something with the water softener ?
PLUMBING WITH TIM a foot valve is the one- way valve at the base of the system with a screen over it to prevent debris from being drawn in. Maybe you call it something else?
Hello, I have some questions. 1. Which pump is better for underground water tank, an normal stage pump or an self priming stage pump ? 2. Why my water pumps for the house supply running rapidly, on and off and all taps are closed, and when I open one tap in the house the situation same, pump running rapidly on and off. 3. My water pump system for supply water in to the house is also one strange things more, I open one tap the flow is ok but if I open an second tap the flow drops down. I have 2 pumps with capacity of 10000 liter each per hour. I not understand at all why like this is. Thanks for replying for anyone.
Never mind I fixed it...pressure tank was too high not sure how that happend but it was 45 psi pump is 30/50 so I lowered it to 28 and everything fell into place.
i got this problem , do i need to shut off the power and turn on a water outlet until the water stops and check the pressure and see if its 2 lbs below the lowest pressure noted on the pump like 30 to 60 see if it reads 38 lbs?
LOL. Number 4. Not having a check valve on the incoming water line. I thought because my water tank was uphill from the water pump with pressure tank that I didn't need a one way valve. Nope, it built up pressure, stopped for a few seconds while the water was going back out the input, then the pump would start again.
I have a well system that I replaced the pump and pressure switch. The pump fills the tank but once full the pump cycles very fast stemming from the pressure switch. Have replaced the switches (one on pump and one on tank). New pump, new float inside the holding tank. Adjust the pressure in pressure tank. Still cycles and I’m at a loss. Well-guy couldn’t figure it out, plumber at a loss.
I checked there was air missing, after that i did 60ps with air tyre compressor, than i realises i have another problem: the black part with electrical wires, there is a spring you can adjuast it, you have to move forward backward and u can fix it that way.
Hey Tim great video. Replaced my shallow well jet pump with pressure switch built on, and air pressure tank because it was rapid cycling before. Everything is new and is still rapid cycling. Any chance that my problem maybe my foot valve? Or would that not be the issue? Thanks in advanced!
Hey Tim, were you near the hurricane? Micheal? Hope all is well in your neck of the woods. I don't have a well system but always enjoy your videos. We actually had our air-condition pump do this thing. I think. It would come on and off and on and off. Had replace the whole system. Maybe it's not the same thing but sounds like it. Thanks for the information! Take care
PLUMBING WITH TIM glad to hear. Hey if you ever found your Halloween video clip I’ll take it👻If it’s too hard to find no problem 👍🏻 . I’m still editing so you have time (wink wink)
You have great and simple videos so I subscribed. I need help because I think I jumped the gun. My tank was at 39 PSI so I decided to add more to get to 50. Now my pump is short triggering. What do I do please help
Yes this helps big time. Shallow well pumps so many problems I need a submersible pump. No pressure switch or pump problems. I was 110 feet away from public water. So I called water company and they wanted $26,000.00 to extend the main pipe in front of my house. So I'll deal with my pump issues.. LOL
Where I live in Central Florida if you want water you need a well. We still only have dial up internet. But for the low cost of my taxes each year I am glad to be out a little bit.
I have a new tank properly pressurized(28 lbs.for a 30-50 switch) have been through 3 switches, yet it goes on and of several times when it gets to 50 lbs. Help!
@@hasites14 No, the pump goes on and off 4-5 times before stopping. I had people out here ,one said I need a new 'foot valve" But no one on their crew agreed with him. But the pump it still works. ??
Great information in the video. Helped me diagnose my pump but I had to listen to a couple parts 3 or 4 times cause the back ground music was so loud. Maybe tone that back a little. But very well spoken, to the point, great info, and very well explained. Thank you so much!
Thanks brother. Its 3am and my pump is short cycling . Thanks for the great info. Excellent video.
Love your XJ. Cherokee. I have a 2000 that I absolutely love. Thank you for the well info.
My Tank is doing this and I am trying to sleep. It's like sommone is repeatedly sticking a pencil in my eyeball over and over. This is terrible!!!
Thank you i'm new to the well system.
Not just under slab leak but slow leaking toilet flush flap. My pump cycles about every 20-30 minutes we have a 2nd bathroom we hardly use and the flapper is leaking now. I need to replace it to keep the pump from short cycling. Good video other then the music lol
Precisely the problem with my well pump. The tank casing had eroded to a point where no air could be pumped into it. Many thanks for the insight. I am off to buy a new tank.
Very nice of you to explain this. I was lost when you talked about this tire shrader valve you mentioned, so had to see its image online. Now I know what to do before calling a well company. Thank you!
Thanks for watching
Thank you for your video Tim.
Never knew the tank had a bladder and from what you described as a bladder failure sounds very close to whats been happening to my system. Wasn't exactly what i wanted to hear but at least i know whats to be expected. I'm about to go now and check the tank valve and see if thats it. Thanks for the info. you have helped me tremendously!!!!
Thanks for your info, my pump has been short cycling lately and I just checked the air chuck in the tank and it IS pushing water out the nozzle!!! ARGH!!
Thanks for this! I just had the pressure switch fail on my well pump, so replaced that. Now, the pressure gauge needle flops around between 40/60 psi. It doesn't move smoothly at all, AND my tankless water heater tries to turn on whenever the toilet is flushed, which is new. I hope the tank just needs to be recharged and isn't waterlogged 🤦🏻♀️ living in the Wisconsin countryside is one thing after another! Sheesh!
I still have a galvanized tank from the early 80's. Not a lick of rust on it and it's been sitting outside here in Florida for 40 years. I just had my well pump replaced, dated 1988 on the pump! The well specialist recommened replacing the tank with a bladder tank to the tune of $1300 and I said you must be insane. never had a problem with short cycling either.
Brother tim . Im in The Bahamas and we have the same plumbing issues you just described
Hey Tim. Great video. There is nothing worse for a pump system than rapid cycling. However, all the things you mentioned that can go bad like the bladder in the tank, the pressure switch, even leaks under the slab are all caused by the so called "normal cycling" that happens when your pump runs for just a minute or two to pressurize the tank and system. Adding a Cycle Stop Valve does just what the name implies and stops the destructive cycling. The CSV makes the tank, pump, pressure switch, and everything else in the pump system last longer while delivering strong constant pressure to your house, and works with much smaller and less expensive tanks.
Where does the csv go?
@@judybarber8530 Before the pressure tank/pressure switch and before any hydrants or tees off the mainline.
Hi Tim. I am in the Philippines. There is no real plumber here. So i am trying to do the best thing i can fixing my problem short cycle
Thanks it helped me. Pressure tank tested good. Bad pressure switch
i always do a tap test with my multi tool for hollow sound at the top of the tanks.. when replacing the tanks the tank pressure should be balanced with the water pressure . info for your viewers tim..
good video tim .
billy joe
Yes sir it should
Good point billy
Set air pressure in tank 2 lbs. lower than cut on pressure so if you have a 30/50 switch your air pressure in tank should be set at 28 lbs. thanks for dropping by 😎
Thanks Tim! good information.
thanks for the video, at first check I had just air come out of my pressure tank but it was higher pressure than expected, as I checked again a little water came out. then as the pressure went down more water came out, looks like I'm replacing my tank.
HOwdy, We had a bad cold snap down south. 8 degrees then didn't get above freezing for days. My water lines caught hell. SO did my well pump and pressure tank. Replaced one line, and one line on gas hot water heater. Thawed well, replaced pressure gauge, thawed tank. Installed new pressure gauge on well got it adjusted and had decent water pressure everywhere minus the kitchen sink. no hot or cold, just barley running. Adjust pressure switch and got decent flow in kitchen hot and cold and lost cold in my tub...I searched for leaks there are none no clogs that I know of pump isnt cycling on and off great pressure everywhere, outside fauctes are like firehoses good hot water pressure in tub, no cold, bathroom sink is fine toilet is fine, Im out of answers please advise..Its a 50/30 well motor and Im set really close to that, tank pressure is at 28..I dont have a clue, water is clear too
I watched your video and I knew none of your options were my issue. I did a quick one day set up to have a backup water supply since they're going to shut down my water tomorrow. I have a small 100 gallon tank connected to a pump with a pressure switch which is connected to the plumbing in my house. I don't believe I need a pressure tank because I have an adequate size pump that won't have any issues pressurizing the system. So my problem was once I got everything hooked up it was short cycling bad. Almost instantaneous on and off. I had to scratch my head, search some videos didn't find the answer, scratched my head again and then realized I'm an idiot. There has to be a check valve after the pump. Otherwise the water is just pressurizing in the system and then flowing back through the pump into the reservoir. This is pretty obvious if you're thinking it through carefully. But when you're throwing it together in an emergency you might skip something like this. And if you did now you know what to look for. My short cycle issue disappeared after installing a check valve. This was still a very good helpful video and will help somebody who had an effective system set up that stopped working.
Thanks for the concise explanations. Really appreciate the info and not the music; otherwise well done!
Your background music is too loud for me to enjoy your video just a suggestion
I’ve got a deep well setup with a pump in the bottom of the well. I have replaced pressure switch and tank and it’s still short cycling. I think it’s a failed check valve that’s above my submersible pump. The pump kicks on satisfy’s the pressure then immediately gets expelled back down into the well via a failed check valve and kicks the pump back on. Any thoughts?
Good video and entertaining thank you fellow Florida waterboy
Thank you.
I am working on an irrigation system that gives the well pump constant power, and is short cycling I think at the pressure switch? Seems like the sprinkler controller should regulate the well pump but I guess thats not how they do it
Thanks Tim
Thanks for the video Tim!! I have a well pump that is short cycling and I have replaced the Well Pressure Switch 30/50 and tested the tank and it checks out ok (Tap test and only air is coming out of the top)...i'm scratching my head... your video is great and I thank you for posting... can you recommend a video on how to properly turn the water on to the rest of the house after you change out the switch? thanks
Same here. Im lost. Mine only short cycles sometimes.
Hey Tim.... you will never guess what happened.... Cra Cra... Crazy. I replaced pressure switch... still crazy clicking short cycle. Pipes all tight no leaks. So pressure tank is working. I replaced pressure switch 3 times. I am a contractor and put in my own 20 foot short well. It's our seashore summer home. So I knew it was something Electric. So the pump is in our back little shed and we have a 15 foot extension cord that plugs in outside. So I thought just maybe... maybe it's the freaking extension cord. My wife thought... hmmmm... that wont work. BINGO... BAM... FREAKING BAM!!!!! Yes it did work Tim. I don't give up until I get it... last year hot water tank no hot water and relaxed both heating elements and both thermostats. Still no hot water. Then I thought maybe it's the breaker that us bad.. BINGO... FREAKING BINGO... 12 bucks for breaker 40 bucks for other stuff and I love it... Thanks again for your video
Awesome thanks for sharing
Pump was short cycling, replaced pressure switch and pressure tank. Made sure pressure was correct on tank, still short cycling. No leaks, pressure stays the same as long as no faucets are on. Could it be something with the water softener ?
Why might my system be short cycling without water coming through pressure valve?
Bro lose the loud ass music so we can hear what your saying. Great video thought
Great video, Great music .
How about a faulty / sticky foot valve allowing the pumped water to fall back into the well and lose pressure fast?
Not sure what a foot valve is but I guess it’s possible
PLUMBING WITH TIM a foot valve is the one- way valve at the base of the system with a screen over it to prevent debris from being drawn in. Maybe you call it something else?
Really good video. Thank you
Hello, I have some questions.
1. Which pump is better for underground water tank, an normal stage pump or an self priming stage pump ?
2. Why my water pumps for the house supply running rapidly, on and off and all taps are closed, and when I open one tap in the house the situation same, pump running rapidly on and off.
3. My water pump system for supply water in to the house is also one strange things more, I open one tap the flow is ok but if I open an second tap the flow drops down. I have 2 pumps with capacity of 10000 liter each per hour. I not understand at all why like this is.
Thanks for replying for anyone.
Never mind I fixed it...pressure tank was too high not sure how that happend but it was 45 psi pump is 30/50 so I lowered it to 28 and everything fell into place.
i got this problem , do i need to shut off the power and turn on a water outlet until the water stops and check the pressure and see if its 2 lbs below the lowest pressure noted on the pump like 30 to 60 see if it reads 38 lbs?
What kind of a problem are you having John?
@@PLUMBINGWITHTIM when ya run the water the pump kicks on and off like every 15-20 seconds
You have a bad pressure tank. Take the cap off the shrader valve and push the pin. If water squirts out its bad
@@themiwoodsman7222 how did you fixed it ?
I know this is an old post but dirty contacts on the pressure switch can also cause short cycling.
Where are you located
Background noise
Yes, really. There is no need for that noise in this video
LOL. Number 4. Not having a check valve on the incoming water line. I thought because my water tank was uphill from the water pump with pressure tank that I didn't need a one way valve. Nope, it built up pressure, stopped for a few seconds while the water was going back out the input, then the pump would start again.
I have a well system that I replaced the pump and pressure switch. The pump fills the tank but once full the pump cycles very fast stemming from the pressure switch. Have replaced the switches (one on pump and one on tank). New pump, new float inside the holding tank. Adjust the pressure in pressure tank. Still cycles and I’m at a loss. Well-guy couldn’t figure it out, plumber at a loss.
The gauge on the pump drops to zero when tank gets full. Gauge on tank holds stead at about 40. Replaced the gauges.
Check valve stuck open
YesGreat advice
Nice info might want to kill the music 🎶
Repair msn coming in the morning. All this noise! Need sleep
I checked there was air missing, after that i did 60ps with air tyre compressor, than i realises i have another problem: the black part with electrical wires, there is a spring you can adjuast it, you have to move forward backward and u can fix it that way.
Hey Tim great video. Replaced my shallow well jet pump with pressure switch built on, and air pressure tank because it was rapid cycling before. Everything is new and is still rapid cycling. Any chance that my problem maybe my foot valve? Or would that not be the issue? Thanks in advanced!
The pump and bladder tank are 2 diff things
Hey Tim, were you near the hurricane? Micheal? Hope all is well in your neck of the woods. I don't have a well system but always enjoy your videos. We actually had our air-condition pump do this thing. I think. It would come on and off and on and off. Had replace the whole system. Maybe it's not the same thing but sounds like it. Thanks for the information! Take care
Oh thank you so much Patti for checking in on me
Nope we missed the storm thankfully lol
Have a great weekend 😎!
PLUMBING WITH TIM glad to hear. Hey if you ever found your Halloween video clip I’ll take it👻If it’s too hard to find no problem 👍🏻 . I’m still editing so you have time (wink wink)
You have great and simple videos so I subscribed. I need help because I think I jumped the gun. My tank was at 39 PSI so I decided to add more to get to 50. Now my pump is short triggering. What do I do please help
You look inside cover of your pressure switch. It will have a minim pressure of when to turn on and a max. Set your tank pressure 2 psi bellow max
Yes this helps big time. Shallow well pumps so many problems I need a submersible pump. No pressure switch or pump problems. I was 110 feet away from public water. So I called water company and they wanted $26,000.00 to extend the main pipe in front of my house. So I'll deal with my pump issues..
LOL
Good job
Been a long time since I encountered a well system anywhere... that I know of anyway.
I get calls quite often to service well systems here in Florida there are believe it or not a lot of rural areas
Thanks for the support my friend!
Where I live in Central Florida if you want water you need a well. We still only have dial up internet. But for the low cost of my taxes each year I am glad to be out a little bit.
You must be a city boy. :-)
Game name pliss
Check valve too💪
Well done thumbs away.
Thanks for the video
Sure thing my friend
Take care!
Mine was check valve in the pump
can i flush the tank out
My tank isn’t that big but mine cycles at 50 to 70 then kicks off
Great vid. Bad music i couldnt concentrate 😢
I have a new tank properly pressurized(28 lbs.for a 30-50 switch) have been through 3 switches, yet it goes on and of several times when it gets to 50 lbs. Help!
ever find out whats the problem? i have same thing
@@hasites14 No, the pump goes on and off 4-5 times before stopping. I had people out here ,one said I need a new 'foot valve" But no one on their crew agreed with him. But the pump it still works.
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@@anton1949 thank you for reply...i just find out i installed my check valve on outlet instead on inlet side of jet pump...
I added pressure to my tank, was at 39psi. Now my pump jump 3x then pumps normal. Anybody have a clue what to do please?
The advice? Good. The music? Friggin annoying.
Thanks for the help but now I need a new tank :(
Y the music
Good informational video. Hard to hear your dialogue over the loud background music.
Thanks I will definitely work on that. Take care.
plz shut off the background noise so we can hear you
Wrong I have a galvanized tank no bladder
Fui: i cant hear or take in what you’re saying with music going on…as i am trying to learn something new i need to concentrate, sorry
Very good video get rid of the damn music. It drives me nuts. I can’t hear you talk.
Ok. So it's not the tank. Now what ?
The music is WAY too loud
I need your # and 5 minutes of your time 😊
Need to NOT add loud annoying music to your videos
Just couldn't watch with the terrible music
I’m sorry about that it is an old video and I was just learning how to edit videos
Thanks for watching
@@PLUMBINGWITHTIM now is as good a time as any to redo an updated video, so your viewers will stop bitching. People are babies!
Turn the music off!!😂
Great video, I'd like to hear more of the music and less talking, I'm not really interested in a well problem.
What a waste.