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There were a bunch of gapr's and udi's at the Junior Invitational, but most were gapr mid. They all complained about it not spinning enough with the low.
I game the p790 and cant see myself ever changing it.. I'll just continue to buy it over and over cause its unbelievably long, consistent, feels phenomenal, fairway finding machine
Another great video, James! GAPR for sure. I noticed you never highlight the offline stat. To me, that's way more important than the spin numbers at the top of the bag.
I currently have both a 5 wood in my bag and have some time now, but I just recently added a gapr lo 2 iron to bridge the gap between my 5 wood and 5 iron. And I have got to say that behind my 5 wood, the gapr is my one of my favorite clubs in my golf bag.
I would probably use the GAPR mid. When I worked at the PGA Tour Superstore it was very easy to hit well. I use the Callaway Big Bertha 815 Alpha 2 and 3 hybrids which are easy to hit so I am not relly in the market for replacements. I wouldn't use a driving iron because they are not as easy to hit.
I play the 22 degree GapHigh #4, adjusted 1 notch more loft to 22.5 degrees, to give an average 210 carry with descent angle of 45 degrees from 115-120 feet. I had demoed the Gapr_Mid a number of times and was really going in to demo it again and buy it, but the previous day I had watched a TH-camr compare the mid and the high, and even though he though the mid would be his club, and I agreed with that, his own data pointed to the High. So I went in with an open mind and let the data speak the truth - even though I loved the Gapr_Mid, the High produced the better numbers. I ended up cutting the shaft 3/4" to make it the length of a 3 iron and I cannot be happier. I can shape it both ways but it naturally produces a high draw which I like as a starting point. In terms of that 230-245 club, I prefer a hybrid over a iron, even though I love a good 2 iron, because hybrids can keep the ball lower than 5 woods and at the same time, they are massively more stable and can easily and consistently produce better shots from non teed up situations, than any 2 iron. My weapon of choice is the Epic #2 18 Degree Hybrid (now an older model). It can be adjust to from 17 to 20 degrees. When teed up you can produce bullet ball low spin 240 carries, both draws and fades, and playing it at 18 degrees off the fairway, my reliable carry numbers are 225 fade & 230 draw. If you play links golf then maybe look at a 2 iron - otherwise 'player' type hybrids are far more useful for height and descent angles into greens. My driver swing speed i 107-110 and I'm a 5 handicap.
If I had to choose between these 2 I’d choose the GAPR Lo just because of the bigger profile behind the ball and more forgiveness. The reason why I go for an iron off the tee over a driver is to hit the fairway so forgiveness is important and the bigger profiles usually go further anyway. I have the Srixon ZU85 and that thing is a weapon. Never coming out of the bag
I am hybrid player. To the point I am considering getting a 5 iron hybrid. I have plenty of speed to hit a 5 iron. I hit hybrids very high but have no problem knocking them down. I like the ability to hit them a number better then a long iron. I get more versatility out of a hybrid.
I have a GAPR Lo and a hybrid. I can't kick either out of the bag :-/ both have their spot and I feel like I need both during my round. Not willing to dump a wedge either so... 15 clubs it is :D
I have a strong 3 wood then a 5 wood then 4 iron. Thinking of getting one of these for windy days to alternate with my 5 wood. Might be ordering the GAPR lo. Had the p790 udi hit it good but the shaft was just a bit to heavy so sold it
Andrew McCullough If you are already struggling with 5 iron, the GAPR low is not for you. It‘s still much closer to an iron than it is to a hybrid. Even with some type of forgiveness you need a club head speed of +95 (James is +100), which likely only reach the top 5% of Golfers. Think of GAPR medium and high. Can also really suggest the Callaway Apex hybrids. They are not as chunky as many other hybrids
@@maxgrahlher2206 5 iron is fine it's the gap between the 2 irons makes the 4 senseless. Have similar swing speed to James just can't get the best out of my 4 iron regularly
Andrew McCullough Intresting. In that case I my suggestion would be to get a single 4 iron out of a more forgiving and easier launching iron series. Let‘s say you play the Titelst MB, get a T100 4 iron. Or P760, get a P790 iron. I have played the GAPR low and I swing 95mph on average. Especially out of lies from the rough it‘s really tough. I have the GAPR low in my bag set at 20 below my 4 iron and it works lovely for me. Hope you find your setting
I have both. The GPS-lo is much better in the light rough the udi is the bomb for in the wind like number 6 on the front nine at my course even cranked down for me it's hard to keep low in 20 mile an hour wind. I hit the ball pretty high though I carry the Gapr most of the time though it's so damn easy for me to hit.
I use the UDI 790. I rarely miss the fairway off the tee and can hit it long and straight off the fairway. I have a slightly steep swing hitting down on the ball and can not hit a hybrid or the GAPR-LO consistently.
I’m one of the cursed who cannot get a 3-wood up in the air. Thankfully, Ping G400 is a monster 5-wood that serves me better than I deserve, and feeds perfectly into my M4 3-hybrid, and that into my beloved TaylorMade SpeedBlades 5-LW.
The GAPR low is one of the best DI's ever made. The only issue with it is that it's designed for a better player but the shaft is too light. They should have put a 90-100 gram hybrid shaft in the Lo version.
Gapr has a delightful lanch and and distance where as P.790 feel like hitting a 7 iron of the fairway bunker but is forgiving than Gapr and I rock the Gapr in the course.
Since golf is a game of reducing errors, despite preferring the look of the UDI, I'd have to go the GAPR Low. Of course if TM put out a P790 Ti UDI, I might rethink that :)
Reading these comments makes me realize I have an unpopular opinion: hitting a lower profile "players" iron to me is like driving a sports car without traction control. Do you want to actually learn how to drive the car to its fullest potential, even if that means wrapping around a couple trees and struggling for a year or two... Then drive the damn thing with traction control off! Or do you want to have a more "out of the box" driving experience... Then drive it with the traction control on. If you're committed to your game (play alot, enjoy practice), then play the club that gives you the most information about your swing that you can stand without pissing yourself off. For me that's the "players distance irons". They're not insane, but they definitely demand a more consistent swing. Has nothing to do with ego, has everything to do with wanting to shrink my MOA by improving my swing, not the forgiveness of my club.
Great vlog James! I have the GAPR mid as my driving iron and I’m debating on going to the UDI. This makes me wonder if going to the UDI is a smart decision. I can use the GAPR mid from the fairway and rough. Not sure I would get the same results with the UDI.
I believe in having woods and hybrids for launch and forgiveness but I have a driving iron and a 3 iron just to have all iron days and other goof off things (I don’t take golf too serious)
In the past I've tried a 2 iron with a graphite shaft and we did not get on, the dispersion was terrible. Not tried these newer clubs, of the two I would prefer the more forgiving thicker head of the Gapr Lo because I am not a good striker of the ball.
Tmb 716 2 iron with tour ad 95x Such a lovely club Had the older p790 and hated it Would be so much nicer if it wasn’t filled with foam Feel was horrible on poor strikes
What is your input on either playing the P790 3 iron or buying the p790 2 iron udi? I checked out the size difference and it appeared the 2 iron was bigger in size then the standard 4 iron....
Just back from my weekly round. Very mixed results on first 15 holes. Last 3 holes I decided to play safe, using my TM M4 5 hybrid from both tee and fairway. Ended up with 8 points, even missing 2 easy puts. I think the big toys will stay in the locker next time 🤔 Always carry 2 hybrids or more.
I use a gapr 4 with kbs shaft but driver and 3 are smoke 70g shaft 3 hybrid is a Mitsubishi 70g. I could replace my driver with a proper 2 gapr low. I avg 290 drive with epic flash driver.
I currently have the P790 UDI in the bag and I bought it because I wanted something I could rely on to hit a fairway, longer than a 3 iron. It's not particularly forgiving and you will be punished for a bad swing. Really requires you to make a good swing, but the feedback from a solid shot is so buttery smooth. I usually hit this club about 235-240 and greatly prefer the flight over a moon-ball generated by a 5 wood or a hybrid. It's what suits my game best.
I have both and I found the Lo to be about 20 yards shorter than my UDI. And I can't work the Lo as well as I can the UDI. I kept the Lo in the bag for about 2 months, then swapped it back for the UDI. Just didn't like the performance.
I got the gapr lo and hate it to death I was gonna get the p790 UDI 2 iron and not I’m $265 in the hole for nothing but misery 😂 definitely get the P790 UDI
Hi, I’m 15 I’m trying to decide between the gapr the new udi and the titleist u500. I’m a 8 handicap, looking for low ball flight. Which do you think would be the best?
Hi James, like your work a lot. One suggestion: wouldn't it be better presentation wise to present just average GC4 numbers and their SD (like Joel Tadman of Golf Monthly e.g. th-cam.com/video/hgKy-9WvjF0/w-d-xo.html) instead of the always bit shaky video discussions of differences between shots ? After all, it is the average that is relevant and the SD will show us the intershot differences just as good. (or use a tripod)
Idk how weird the American accent sounds to English people since they created the language and all. But to an American, people with James' accent sound like they got something lodged in their throat lmao, great video tho
“Sleeker, slimmer” is irrelevant if I can’t hit it. You’re a professional, and your hits show that no amateur should choose the UDI when there are better options available. Unless, of course, you’ve got an ego bigger than Texas.
Those gapr clubs have got to be the ugliest things I’ve seen from taylormade. Good decision not making those reappear after they released them the first time
I hope most of your subscribers understand coming up with daily content is not easy! Love your vids and creativity. Definitely one of my favorite channels I’m subscribed to
Yubin your right Yubin, James does a great job bringing equipment info to you all!
Thanks mate appreciate that
I have the GAPR-LO in the 3 Iron, I swear it is probably my favorite club in the bag. Absolutely love the feel of it.
There were a bunch of gapr's and udi's at the Junior Invitational, but most were gapr mid. They all complained about it not spinning enough with the low.
I’d take the gapr low cause it’s more forgiving
Ditto Aaron 🔥🤙🏼
I game the p790 and cant see myself ever changing it.. I'll just continue to buy it over and over cause its unbelievably long, consistent, feels phenomenal, fairway finding machine
Another great video, James! GAPR for sure. I noticed you never highlight the offline stat. To me, that's way more important than the spin numbers at the top of the bag.
I currently have both a 5 wood in my bag and have some time now, but I just recently added a gapr lo 2 iron to bridge the gap between my 5 wood and 5 iron. And I have got to say that behind my 5 wood, the gapr is my one of my favorite clubs in my golf bag.
The UDI is more pretty, for sure. But I have not hit either, so cannot say anything but thank you Mark, and have a lovely weekend!
I would probably use the GAPR mid. When I worked at the PGA Tour Superstore it was very easy to hit well. I use the Callaway Big Bertha 815 Alpha 2 and 3 hybrids which are easy to hit so I am not relly in the market for replacements. I wouldn't use a driving iron because they are not as easy to hit.
I play the 22 degree GapHigh #4, adjusted 1 notch more loft to 22.5 degrees, to give an average 210 carry with descent angle of 45 degrees from 115-120 feet. I had demoed the Gapr_Mid a number of times and was really going in to demo it again and buy it, but the previous day I had watched a TH-camr compare the mid and the high, and even though he though the mid would be his club, and I agreed with that, his own data pointed to the High. So I went in with an open mind and let the data speak the truth - even though I loved the Gapr_Mid, the High produced the better numbers. I ended up cutting the shaft 3/4" to make it the length of a 3 iron and I cannot be happier. I can shape it both ways but it naturally produces a high draw which I like as a starting point. In terms of that 230-245 club, I prefer a hybrid over a iron, even though I love a good 2 iron, because hybrids can keep the ball lower than 5 woods and at the same time, they are massively more stable and can easily and consistently produce better shots from non teed up situations, than any 2 iron. My weapon of choice is the Epic #2 18 Degree Hybrid (now an older model). It can be adjust to from 17 to 20 degrees. When teed up you can produce bullet ball low spin 240 carries, both draws and fades, and playing it at 18 degrees off the fairway, my reliable carry numbers are 225 fade & 230 draw. If you play links golf then maybe look at a 2 iron - otherwise 'player' type hybrids are far more useful for height and descent angles into greens. My driver swing speed i 107-110 and I'm a 5 handicap.
My GAPR lo is one of my favorite clubs in my bag. i switched out the graphite shaft with a DG 105 at 39.25 inches and its a monster.
May I ask why you swapped out?
If I had to choose between these 2 I’d choose the GAPR Lo just because of the bigger profile behind the ball and more forgiveness. The reason why I go for an iron off the tee over a driver is to hit the fairway so forgiveness is important and the bigger profiles usually go further anyway. I have the Srixon ZU85 and that thing is a weapon. Never coming out of the bag
My driving iron is a Ping eye 2 1i in BeCu! Love it!
I'd love one of these! How far does it go? How fast is your swing if you know?
I am hybrid player. To the point I am considering getting a 5 iron hybrid. I have plenty of speed to hit a 5 iron. I hit hybrids very high but have no problem knocking them down. I like the ability to hit them a number better then a long iron. I get more versatility out of a hybrid.
Great head to head on two great looking clubs, I’m just a bit disappointed because it looks like they are not making the UDI in left hand 😢
Good videos mate 👍 ⛳️What about a video of gapr vs m6/m5 hybrid ?
Sean Dann gapr is the “m5” line for hybrids
GAPR Low the way to Go, for a Pro or everyday Joe. Beat that James.
Cant hit my hybrids at the moment so thinking about a UDI or 5 wood and I like the look of the GAPR would prob go mid, to help getting the ball up.
I have a GAPR Lo and a hybrid. I can't kick either out of the bag :-/ both have their spot and I feel like I need both during my round. Not willing to dump a wedge either so... 15 clubs it is :D
I have a strong 3 wood then a 5 wood then 4 iron. Thinking of getting one of these for windy days to alternate with my 5 wood. Might be ordering the GAPR lo. Had the p790 udi hit it good but the shaft was just a bit to heavy so sold it
Tried both, and the Udi just felt better, so I bought that.
I'm seriously thinking about buying the P790 UDI as soon as it becomes available in Australia. They are currently on pre-order...
Still have a TM M2 5 wood which I love but struggling with 4/5 iron gapping so I'm considering a GAPR LO for that
Andrew McCullough If you are already struggling with 5 iron, the GAPR low is not for you. It‘s still much closer to an iron than it is to a hybrid. Even with some type of forgiveness you need a club head speed of +95 (James is +100), which likely only reach the top 5% of Golfers. Think of GAPR medium and high. Can also really suggest the Callaway Apex hybrids. They are not as chunky as many other hybrids
@@maxgrahlher2206 5 iron is fine it's the gap between the 2 irons makes the 4 senseless. Have similar swing speed to James just can't get the best out of my 4 iron regularly
Andrew McCullough Intresting. In that case I my suggestion would be to get a single 4 iron out of a more forgiving and easier launching iron series. Let‘s say you play the Titelst MB, get a T100 4 iron. Or P760, get a P790 iron.
I have played the GAPR low and I swing 95mph on average. Especially out of lies from the rough it‘s really tough. I have the GAPR low in my bag set at 20 below my 4 iron and it works lovely for me.
Hope you find your setting
Im still using my Mizuno MP18-MMC Flihi 2Iron. It is my go to club when i need a low stinger out of trees.
I have both. The GPS-lo is much better in the light rough the udi is the bomb for in the wind like number 6 on the front nine at my course even cranked down for me it's hard to keep low in 20 mile an hour wind. I hit the ball pretty high though I carry the Gapr most of the time though it's so damn easy for me to hit.
I use the UDI 790. I rarely miss the fairway off the tee and can hit it long and straight off the fairway. I have a slightly steep swing hitting down on the ball and can not hit a hybrid or the GAPR-LO consistently.
Dont lie, Gapr is such a good club
The GAPR *MID* looks more like the hybrids I've always favored.
I use a mizuno hi-fli 3 iron and I love it when its playing well there isn't a better club
I’m one of the cursed who cannot get a 3-wood up in the air. Thankfully, Ping G400 is a monster 5-wood that serves me better than I deserve, and feeds perfectly into my M4 3-hybrid, and that into my beloved TaylorMade SpeedBlades 5-LW.
The GAPR low is one of the best DI's ever made. The only issue with it is that it's designed for a better player but the shaft is too light. They should have put a 90-100 gram hybrid shaft in the Lo version.
TXchadTX yeah I’ve just snagged a 105x ad di to throw in it, might help
I love and use the Gapa Mid with great long results !
Gapr has a delightful lanch and and distance where as P.790 feel like hitting a 7 iron of the fairway bunker but is forgiving than Gapr and I rock the Gapr in the course.
Since golf is a game of reducing errors, despite preferring the look of the UDI, I'd have to go the GAPR Low. Of course if TM put out a P790 Ti UDI, I might rethink that :)
Gapr would make more sense for me. I’ve got a 5, 3 driver for “woods” and a 3 hybrid currently.
Reading these comments makes me realize I have an unpopular opinion: hitting a lower profile "players" iron to me is like driving a sports car without traction control. Do you want to actually learn how to drive the car to its fullest potential, even if that means wrapping around a couple trees and struggling for a year or two... Then drive the damn thing with traction control off! Or do you want to have a more "out of the box" driving experience... Then drive it with the traction control on. If you're committed to your game (play alot, enjoy practice), then play the club that gives you the most information about your swing that you can stand without pissing yourself off. For me that's the "players distance irons". They're not insane, but they definitely demand a more consistent swing. Has nothing to do with ego, has everything to do with wanting to shrink my MOA by improving my swing, not the forgiveness of my club.
Went to a Cobra F8+ 5 wood and have never enjoyed a 220 yard club so much.
Great vlog James! I have the GAPR mid as my driving iron and I’m debating on going to the UDI. This makes me wonder if going to the UDI is a smart decision. I can use the GAPR mid from the fairway and rough. Not sure I would get the same results with the UDI.
I believe in having woods and hybrids for launch and forgiveness but I have a driving iron and a 3 iron just to have all iron days and other goof off things (I don’t take golf too serious)
miss this room in your new videos
I am currently using the Cobra Driving iron
In the past I've tried a 2 iron with a graphite shaft and we did not get on, the dispersion was terrible. Not tried these newer clubs, of the two I would prefer the more forgiving thicker head of the Gapr Lo because I am not a good striker of the ball.
Tmb 716 2 iron with tour ad 95x
Such a lovely club
Had the older p790 and hated it
Would be so much nicer if it wasn’t filled with foam
Feel was horrible on poor strikes
What is your input on either playing the P790 3 iron or buying the p790 2 iron udi? I checked out the size difference and it appeared the 2 iron was bigger in size then the standard 4 iron....
Love my gapr lo 2 iron, wouldnt trade it for the world. Hit low bullets that run forever
Still rocking the callaway apex ut 2 iron, still performs with others I've tried
you definitely looked more comfortable swinging the gapr
Felt it mate
Just back from my weekly round. Very mixed results on first 15 holes. Last 3 holes I decided to play safe, using my TM M4 5 hybrid from both tee and fairway. Ended up with 8 points, even missing 2 easy puts. I think the big toys will stay in the locker next time 🤔 Always carry 2 hybrids or more.
Driving irons are for pure strikers I suggest sticking to your hybrids
I use a gapr 4 with kbs shaft but driver and 3 are smoke 70g shaft 3 hybrid is a Mitsubishi 70g. I could replace my driver with a proper 2 gapr low. I avg 290 drive with epic flash driver.
I currently have the P790 UDI in the bag and I bought it because I wanted something I could rely on to hit a fairway, longer than a 3 iron. It's not particularly forgiving and you will be punished for a bad swing. Really requires you to make a good swing, but the feedback from a solid shot is so buttery smooth. I usually hit this club about 235-240 and greatly prefer the flight over a moon-ball generated by a 5 wood or a hybrid. It's what suits my game best.
I have both and I found the Lo to be about 20 yards shorter than my UDI. And I can't work the Lo as well as I can the UDI. I kept the Lo in the bag for about 2 months, then swapped it back for the UDI. Just didn't like the performance.
I have the u500 1iron and I love it
I have the old p790 udi is it worth upgrading to the new
I bag a PXG 1 Iron, TMB 2 Iron and GAPR LO. GAPR is a much more versatile club.
2 wedges?
I got the gapr lo and hate it to death I was gonna get the p790 UDI 2 iron and not I’m $265 in the hole for nothing but misery 😂 definitely get the P790 UDI
Took out the 3i and now playing a king cobra f8 19degree
Using the ping crossover 3 iron, just rolls forever whether you strike it well or not
Would take something to get the Adams Red 19* and 23* out of the bag.....
Love my gapr I have a 3 and 4 low in my bag
What about the Tour Preferred UDI ? is it worth it to upgrade to one of these?
Can you compare some utility irons and include the cobra 1 length utility? 👍
Why buy either of these over a hybrid? Great content James keep it up
lower trajectory
Excellent comparison!!
Hi, I’m 15 I’m trying to decide between the gapr the new udi and the titleist u500. I’m a 8 handicap, looking for low ball flight. Which do you think would be the best?
Taylormade P790 UDI 2 iron
I bought both >__
i have gapr mid just cause that looks good...
I use the UDI 2 iron
I thought about getting a 7 wood since I don’t like driving irons or hybrids
Aaron yes get one it’s my favourite club I’ve got the cobra f8 7wood it’s the easiest club to hit
I have the p790 udi
what is your thoughts or results if you have on tour edge 2 (17deg) 3 (19deg) iron-wood cbX?
Hybrids all the way :-) While I can hit a 3-iron, the downside of a poor strike is just dramatically worse compared to a hybrid.
I’d like to see you throw in the epic forged 4 iron also...)
Does adjusting the GAPR adjust the lie angle in anyway?
Nice vid, thanks James
Funny thing I take all three clubs he mentioned but instead of 5 wood I hit 7 wood and I don’t play a three wood
use the old model, 2 UDI. Goes brilliant & looooong..
Great work here.
Are we supposed to guess how long you hit them?
Keep up the good work, missing the on Couse games though. Think I'll stick with my 5 wood.
2 iron is in my bag to replace my old 5 wood
I have the gapr low overtime you realise it’s harder to hit then the p790
That iron is in my bag,goes further then me mates drivers 😂😂
Dean Lahaye I know the feeling, just play from a further tee and use your driver also haha
the fact they dont make a lefty p790 udi pisses me off. I don like the look of the gapr
I've been using the GAPR LO for a year, and I like the feel of it, but the shape is just disgusting
Titleist 718 2 iron
Hi James, like your work a lot. One suggestion: wouldn't it be better presentation wise to present just average GC4 numbers and their SD (like Joel Tadman of Golf Monthly e.g. th-cam.com/video/hgKy-9WvjF0/w-d-xo.html) instead of the always bit shaky video discussions of differences between shots ? After all, it is the average that is relevant and the SD will show us the intershot differences just as good. (or use a tripod)
Nice balance golf swing you'll follow through and finish look a little bit like Roy!!!🏌️♂️ Golf swing.🏌️♂️
Happen to have a Ping Crossover to throw in the comparison?
they already stoped the Gapr line
UDI only for proper golfers with fast swing speeds.
The Gapr Lo is so much better
I have a Gapr Mid and wouldn't take it out my bag for anything
I use Gapr Mid on 19.5° and Gapr Lo on 15.5°, best combination I've ever had.
Jamie Oliver keep my mid on standard, such a great club, you hit one centre of face...... Nearly as good as a great drive
@@threegolfnuts5148 Its truly phenomenal
Gap Lo
Idk how weird the American accent sounds to English people since they created the language and all. But to an American, people with James' accent sound like they got something lodged in their throat lmao, great video tho
“Sleeker, slimmer” is irrelevant if I can’t hit it. You’re a professional, and your hits show that no amateur should choose the UDI when there are better options available. Unless, of course, you’ve got an ego bigger than Texas.
Your downswing are mad
The GAPR range is gross imo
Those gapr clubs have got to be the ugliest things I’ve seen from taylormade. Good decision not making those reappear after they released them the first time
First
My 5 wood (18 degrees) is my favourite club but I also use a 21 degree hybrid also.