By the way, Taryl could have edited out the part when the mower didn’t re-start after the repairs he made, but he didn’t. Just shows he’s an honest man with good character. 👍
@@lawnmowerdude will admit that vertical pull starter is still a good one,I figured for sitting for so long it would have gotten a wd 40 bath and new rope, it would have broken on me after a few pulls
Well either it fires and you get to see it, or it don’t… You can kinda assume if the vid ends and there isn’t a show of success that it didn’t end the way it was planned. I’d be suspicious if they said it all worked but never showed it running or not
Back in the mid 70's when I was a kid, I was given a old 60's Montgomery Ward push mower by this little old lady down the street. It was a Powr Kraft 3 HP, painted gold with a wind up starter, I was fascinated with the wind up starter. With the help of my father, we flushed the tank and cleaned the carbanator, there was no TH-cam back then, so we used a puller to pop the flywheel off :D cleaned and set the points. Hot spark and compresieown...... a little dinosaur juice, wound her up and she popped right off! My father adjusted the carbanator and she ran like a champ :) I mowed many lawns with Goldie, the wind up starter fascinated people, "How do you start this thing?" Oh. you just wind her up, set the choke.... and twist this handle :D
We had our first 4 stroke in 67. A wind up toro Whirlwind 19 inch 3 hp tecumseh. Half as good as the available Briggs. The wind up system was a Joke just a novelty that's all
This was the first machine I was ever trusted with. My dad's old toro mower. Fills me with joy to hear the sound of it running. Really takes me back. :) Thanks so much!
YES, YES, YES! My grandpa recently passed away at 92 years old. He had one of these 19-inch whirlwind toros. He used to write us letters every week, and one time, I wrote about his push mower. He told me he bought it in 1976 and stopped using it in 1998 because he replaced all his grass with plants. He lived in California. That mower is currently on a moving van traveling across the country to Pennsylvania where I live. I look forward to making it run once again and using it on my lawn. My mother actually mowed with that mower so it will be fun to see her push it around. I believe the year code on the mower will be a 75 and I'm so excited to confirm that. I literally just opened your video and I think this will be a great reference for me to get mine running. I will be making my own video as well! Thank you Taryl!! P.S. It has the red hood over the engine with bagging assembly!
My dad had one of those 19" Toros. He bought it in 66 or 67. There was no scalp disc on the blade that I remember. Also the blade was S shaped. He used a side bagger. He mower with that mower until 1990 and sold it to another guy at a garage sale. Always easy to start and so light. The original Toro wheels were wider so they didn't leave marks on the lawn. He had the Tekumish engine with the exhaust through the deck. Thanks for the memories.
Been watching 2 weeks straight of taryl videos since discovering this channel. This dude is awesome. We had one of these mowers growing up and seeing this thing runs brings back fond childhood memories.
Once Taryl took the plastic cover off, the machine looked way more familiar. Never see those covers, nice save Taryl and you really got us with " Mr. 🎥 man " ! 👍🙂
Great mechanic and teacher for we DIYers who like the old equipment. I like the detailed instruction TD gives as he goes through the renovation steps. I never knew about wireless tachometers till I subscribed to this channel. I'm glad he saved this perfectly useful mower from the scrap. On another note, the people who designed and engineered these old gas engines were geniuses. The way they operate is so clever. Thanks.
The mower us not a "turd," it's a "classic!" Thanks for another great video. In particular, your detailed explanations during each stage of work as you returned this machine to operating condition were superb. Mr Cameraman's work was also high quality. Thanks once more.
Another entertaining video from the multi talented Dactyl family!!! I am not the longest tenured subscriber but i consider myself The Dactyl family's most enthusiastic fan!!! Thank you fellows for another great video. Y'all not only entertain & educate but you are creating a good source of information for the history of small engines & their uses. Most likely Taryl Dactyl will be referenced by future generations for years to come!!! Thank you for sharing your wisdom Mr. D.
Wow, this brought back a lot of memories. I worked on these engines for many years when I first started working. Its amazing that there are some left out there and still running. Thanks.
I flat wore out one like that bought in 1970. I was the family lawn care expert and was volunteered by Dad at the age of 12. It was bought by Dad at our local family run hardware. It had a different beauty cover, but everything else looks the same. I had flashbacks from the thumbnail!
It's really unbelievable the depth and history of his expertise and professionalism to be able to repair a Mower that is more than 50 years old! How unique is that talent! Plus all the comedy and levity makes him truly a pleasure to watch this Hillbillie. Fantastic all the way around. 👍👍👍
This is probably my favorite video, because it helped me get my great grandmother’s 73 Jacobson running perfectly. That little 3.5hp engine does great on a 19” deck.
Yes he is very much honest i have been a mechanic and shop owner and i can tell he is a down to earth nice guy but make no mistake he's not going to let anyone run over him and he will help u out as much as possible
Nice mower - my dad had a 21 inch Whirlwind push mower of the same vintage with a side bagger. Our 21 inch model had a Briggs like the one in the video and was equipped with a dipstick also. We moved into a home with a half acre lawn and the mower sure got some hours on it cutting the grass. It was the first lawn mower I mowed with. I took it to small engine class in high school when it was roughly 14 years old. It was the first small engine I overhauled. The mower was used for another 5 - 6 years until my father replaced it. The mower lasted 20 plus years - the deck was still good when the engine was wore out. I haven't seen one of those Whirlwinds in nearly 30 years. The sight of that thing sure brought back some memories.
Yep, this exact mower also came with a Tecumseh LAV30 engine with an under deck muffler, I had one for many years. Mine was from 1969 and had a vertical pull starter but the ones from 1967 and earlier had crank-up impulse starters. Once it was all cranked up you would release the starter by setting the throttle control to the choke position. That mower you have was also available with a green deck and a blue shroud, they called it a Toro Fiesta mower.
Yikes that sounds dangerous. Those magnesium decks seem to add a lot of years to the mower. I have an old mower in my garage that I'm about to get started on fixing. It has a 2-stroke Suzuki engine and a magnesium deck. Pretty cool!
@@thedillestpickle Hang on to that Suzuki engine, they are hard to come by. I am working on finding an aftermarket carburetor or needle/seat valve for one of those as they are obsolete.
@@campbellpaul No luck so far? I just spend an hour poking around and the carb bowl is completely missing along with the rubber seal for the bowl, and the nut. Big ding on the blade, so I'm thinking something a rock was struck, and its quite stiff to turn the engine over. This might be quite an overhaul.
@@thedillestpickle If you remove the three machine screws securing the starter cup you can see if the tiny key on the crank was sheared. I own one with a working carburetor and another with a leaking carburetor. I'm squeamish to remove the carburetor studs (by locking two nuts together) as they are torqued really tight.
Everytime I see these old Briggs style lawnmower engines, I’m instantly taken back to the 1970’s and I’m 10 years old dragging home an old lawnmower that someone threw away at spring cleanup and I worked on that mower till I made it run. I even had one that had a crank up style start, 2 hp Briggs. Those were the days!
yes the crank up style had a couple of them that were given to me around that time everyone knew I like working on small engines . myself I wish I could go back to 86 when I was 10
Me to I remember pushing our mover through the neighborhood knocking on doors trying to get $5 but i usually had to take whatever you could get usually $3 lol but u could geta gallon of good fuel not this crap u get today 35 cents
My Dad was a Toro dealer for years... The wash out plug is a sign of just how good a piece of equipment Toro was turning out back then . My Dad sold a LOT of side discharge 19's and 21's . We actually had 2 or 3 customers cut off fingers using the wash out plug. Another sign of quality and I'm surprised Taryl did not mention it is the "Anti-Scalp disc" . That 50 cent piece of metal was a huge selling point that would usually ace the sale.. . The good old days
Toro, wanted to have a riding tractor in their division and successfully purchased the Wheel Horse tractor which became a part of their division of lawn mower products.
Taryl your so down to earth and your knowledge is more than any internet could compare, you are thee ultranet in engine experience, thank you sir for sharing your gifts, your a great gift and are appreciated much, thank you and your whole family
I have a Toro 21 (1975 model) My dad bought it new. Still runs and I used it to trim after mowing tonight. My Toro internally is just like the one in the video. Now I know a little more about points and condensers! Thanks Taryl
On these older models, I just go ahead and convert theme to electronic ignition. Do away with the old points. Always keep plenty of used coils on hand.
You know, I am not personally a big fan of the "theatrics" in these videos (although in this one it was minimal), but your level of knowledge and the video production is amazing! I can tell just how well you really know your stuff, so this is what keeps me coming back for more! Great job! Thanks for sharing your knowledge, Sir!
Hey Taryl...i had a toro similar to this one it was self propelled with a tecumseh 5.5 on it...it cut grass so perfectly..i found it under a house and had been sitting at least 20 or 25 years..they parked it because it quit running..it had a bad condenser after i got it running and put a new blade on it i used it for 6 more years..the crank seal leaked one day and it lost most of its oil..i replaced the seal but the sump was worn so it wouldn't seal..so i had to park it again ..eventually i found another motor like the one that was on it got it running again and sold it at a yard sale..i had already bought a new one so i didn't need it..after i cleaned and replaced the drive belt and another blade it cut well and pulled good too..i got 75.00 for it..I've been flippen mowers ever since..see you on the next one Cheers 🍺🍺🍺🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I used one as a kid that I inherited from my grandfather. I hated that mower. Lol. Got rid of it years ago. Now I kinda wish I had it back. Had some unusual features. Oil bath carburator air cleaner. The exhaust went under the deck. Wind up starter that never worked right. A oil reservoir. That was supposed to keep you from measuring the oil with a dipstick. Had a push button. And for the 1960s had a wash out port for a hose to clean out the grass.
Oh good GOD! We HAD that very Toro! It lasted 17 years. VERY good machine!! Ours had the front wheel drive.. I called it the 'VEGA" because it puffed blue smoke out of the muffler like the Vegas did......
This is the best way to learn something, you can learn procedures from service manuals but it’s those little tricks or tips someone with experience can give you
Hey Taryl! We had that exact mower when I was a kid. I put in a lot of steps behind the ol' Whirlwind. I had a good little business cutting neighborhood lawns. Thanks for being back good memories 👍
Always loved that style of recoil on those mowers, something about how it looked just appealed to me, and the sound when you pulled it, reminded me of starting my mom's lawn boy 2 stroke mowers she used in her lawn care business
I was 7 years old in 1973 and with my Dad when he bought one of these at the Toro dealer. It was light but underpowered, especially in tall grass. Ran great tho up until about 1988 when I accidentally hit a steel pipe, property marker with it. Broke the crank. Cool to see these still up and running today. Gotta love it!
I have a really old whirlwind 2 that still starts, runs, and functions properly. I found it when I was helping my neighbor move. It was buried under a bunch of junk for 10 to 15 years from what they said
I worked on tons of this style Toro Briggs as “Ditchmasters” , when you wanted to mow an area that had a sloping drop this was a nice light mower to use as a ruff cut. Took me a while to figure out the “preload” on the diaphragm but it was a pretty good engine/work horse for a non manicured yard.
"Underpowered" is a relative term. I had a 3 horse that would eat through anything. It was only an 18 inch blade. Didn't need a big engine to do the job. Sure the swath was smaller, but because you could move faster, it took less time to cut the grass. The smaller mower was also lighter and less work to push.
I have a Craftsman edger that uses a similar motor. Rebuilt the carburetor with the gaskets and the diaphragm and a new primer bulb and air filter too. Runs great but normally needs starting fluid to get going. Last year the blade shaft broke in half, it's a shaft with a threaded rod at each end for attaching the pulley and the blade. I had to scramble to find a local small time machine shop. Found a guy in Highland who was closing up shop for good in a few weeks. I think he repaired it for $30 but that was basically finding a needle in a haystack. Most machine shops don't even want to touch it and if they do they want to charge you 300% the cost of the machine in the first place, in my experience at least.
The toro 'claim to fame' was their mowdecks. The cast aluminum vacuuming was FAR superior to contemporary stamped steel decks. (I still think OMC had them beat with their Lawnboy engines)
Great video thanks Taryl. I found out from another youtuber how to bring that old chrome back around to use WD-40 and aluminum foil. Spray it down and scrub it with aluminum foil.
I fitted the same air filter into the sane sort of air filter on my 1988 model 3 horsepower Briggs and Stratton 92500 lawnmower engine on my Supa Swift lawnmower,I Fitted it in 2008 & I'm still using the same air filter 14 years later. I replaced the diaphragm on the same sort of carburetor & tank setup but I removed the cover then tightened the carburetor screws before fitting rod onto the choke butterfly. I replaced the diaphragm to try & fix a hard starting issue which I had if I left the mower sit for 10 minutes then it wouldn't start,I even adjusted the carburetor mixture screw as per Briggs and Stratton instructions which was when the engine was warm & with half a tank of fuel. The engine was starting to use a bit of oil (200 mLs per hour) as I was having to top it up with oil every time that I mowed with it,yes,the starting & oil consumption problem was due to Worn piston rings. I had already lapped the valves in so I pulled the bottom Half of the crankcase off as well as the cylinder head then I checked the piston ring gaps. The compression ring gaps measured at 0.045" (1.15mm) which was above Briggs and Strattons 0.035" (0.8 mm) toss them in the bin specifications. I fitted brand new Stens piston rings which gave me a 0.009" (0.22 mm) compression ring gap so they were a very tight fit when I Fitted them on December 24 2019,the engine still has more compression now & no more Hot starting issues. It uses 150 mLs of oil in 10 hours of mowing at the most now. It actually goes better than my dads 6.5 horsepower Honda lawnmower because it's a 19 year old Lawnmower which needs new piston rings,it gets a bit Smoky on startup, particularly at winter time !
Love it I have and use a 1993 Toro 22040 pro line with a 2cycle Suzuki 5 horse (underrated) runs perfect I have had to take the carb a traitor apart it’s my favorite
Watching you mow snow brought an old memory. I was at a rummage sale a lo-ong time ago and saw a blade for a lawn mower for sale. It was in the box with instructions etc. It was promoted as a blade that you could mount on your push mower to throw snow. I don't think it would work here in northern Wisconsin :-).
Those were great mowers. I bought my 1992 model used in 2001, the deck was corroded from the previous owner washing it frequently. I ran it until the deck was broken, engine still ran like a top.
I got some of those vintage cable clamps from you for my 81 White Outdoor products track drive snow blower I recently restored....works great and looks great....thank you.
it's fun to work on the old stuff occasionally. I've got the mower engine I bought (the only mower I've bought) in 1991, it's the same number, but from 74
Hi Daryl im surprised you dont have a small hydraulic lift to get the small mowers off the floor to fix, i love mine that i made just using a car jack. I hate working on the dog shelf it paggers ur knees .Any way great vid as always.
I'm surprised the deck isn't blow out at the front of the discharge. I've got two of these, one 19" and one 21" and both are broken there. I love these mowers cause they are light and low to the ground, perfect for trimming under pine trees, etc. They are hard to find replacement engines cause the engine shaft is so short... Great find!
Yea old magnesium deck mowers are a treat. I have an old one with a 2-stroke suzuki engine on it. It has steel wheels painted in white, and chrome plated handlebar and exhaust cover. I bet it is a pleasure to run once I get it fixed up.
This is the closest engine I've found to my snapper, thanks for showing how it works on depth, only thing I need to figure out now is how to adjust my carb like you did
I like the recoil on that old mower. I was 7 years old when that mower was new lol. We actually had that model. Pretty neat seeing that old model. Finally got to see camera man 😂😂😂
Hey Taryl ,reminds me of the time I had a old Crapsmen mower I couldn't get a new recoil start for. Thought I was smart using my new 1/2" drill with a socket on top of the flywheel to start it until it backfired one day destroying the teeth on every gear inside the drill. And there's your dinner.
i have one of those in my collection has a carb before the vacu-jet and pulsa-jet .....no diaphragm , the gas tank looks the same. just has a whole smaller than a quarter and a screw hole on each side. i also have 2 side pull B&S mowers, 1 was a curb find snapper the other was my first mower my parents bought me in 65'
I'm still using my 1982 Toro. A lot of similarities, except 21" and self propelled. Had a black engine cover, hinged for the fuel tank I think I might have tossed that when we moved a few years ago. We bought it new for my mother during the 1982 World Series at the local hardware store to replace her Jacobsen from about 1967. Its a tank, and might run forever! I just change the oil and order-up whatever it needs to keep going.
I used to have a mower with that same tank/carb setup, every time I tried to hot start it, it would not start unless I propped the choke open. If I let it cool down, it would start right up........I don't miss that mower!!!!.........Nice info on setting up that diaphram/choke position...........
The B&S "L head" motors were truly amazing. If a person changed the oil once a year and cleaned the air filter (and didn't hit something solid that bent the shaft) those motors would literally run for ever with only the occasional points and condenser and, rarely, an exhaust valve job. I had one of these already 10 years old used motors as a 7 year old kid and I mowed yards in my neighborhood for the next 10 years with it. The motor wore out 3 different decks. I ended up giving it to an ex girlfriend. It burned some oil but still ran well.
If points are pitted the condenser is not doing its job, so we always replace both. The condenser/capacitor discharges when points close and charges when open. Current wants to keep flowing when pts open and empty condenser provides a place for it to go controlled so it doesn't arc across the points and burn them. I read this on the side of a Hamm's beer can in the fun facts. LOL
Very well edited Mr. Cameraman. People don't give you enough credit. P.S. you left a shot of your right foot, i.e. evidence of your parental lineage from previous videos.
In my 5 years of being a grass rat I have not the privilege of messing with any small engines with points. Thanks to you Taryl I'll know haw to fix em when I do. I remember back in the day when I had cars with points. I hated chevy's because they were on the backside of the motor. Thanks Taryl
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By the way, Taryl could have edited out the part when the mower didn’t re-start after the repairs he made, but he didn’t. Just shows he’s an honest man with good character. 👍
Well that’s just the reality. Showing that keeps people from getting discouraged if they run into problems.
@@lawnmowerdude will admit that vertical pull starter is still a good one,I figured for sitting for so long it would have gotten a wd 40 bath and new rope, it would have broken on me after a few pulls
Well either it fires and you get to see it, or it don’t… You can kinda assume if the vid ends and there isn’t a show of success that it didn’t end the way it was planned. I’d be suspicious if they said it all worked but never showed it running or not
Quite the contrast when compared to those who cook on here or television, & NEVER make anything that tastes bad...
But are those his real teeth?
Back in the mid 70's when I was a kid, I was given a old 60's Montgomery Ward push mower by this little old lady down the street. It was a Powr Kraft 3 HP, painted gold with a wind up starter, I was fascinated with the wind up starter. With the help of my father, we flushed the tank and cleaned the carbanator, there was no TH-cam back then, so we used a puller to pop the flywheel off :D cleaned and set the points. Hot spark and compresieown...... a little dinosaur juice, wound her up and she popped right off! My father adjusted the carbanator and she ran like a champ :) I mowed many lawns with Goldie, the wind up starter fascinated people, "How do you start this thing?" Oh. you just wind her up, set the choke.... and twist this handle :D
Dad had one of those,,he would just crank on it till it started, some times half an hour and it would finally catch,and run, points always worked
I have that same mower 1965 Powr Kraft gold with crank wind starter. It’s cool. It reminds me of the mower my Dad had about 1970.
We had our first 4 stroke in 67. A wind up toro Whirlwind 19 inch 3 hp tecumseh. Half as good as the available Briggs. The wind up system was a Joke just a novelty that's all
I don’t remember what brand of mower it was but we had a wind up mower too back in the day.
I'm still kicking my ass for not saving the two wind up covers I had as a kid!
This was the first machine I was ever trusted with. My dad's old toro mower. Fills me with joy to hear the sound of it running. Really takes me back. :) Thanks so much!
My earliest memories are fresh cut lawns by a rich running 2 stroke Jacobson
YES, YES, YES! My grandpa recently passed away at 92 years old. He had one of these 19-inch whirlwind toros. He used to write us letters every week, and one time, I wrote about his push mower. He told me he bought it in 1976 and stopped using it in 1998 because he replaced all his grass with plants. He lived in California. That mower is currently on a moving van traveling across the country to Pennsylvania where I live. I look forward to making it run once again and using it on my lawn. My mother actually mowed with that mower so it will be fun to see her push it around. I believe the year code on the mower will be a 75 and I'm so excited to confirm that. I literally just opened your video and I think this will be a great reference for me to get mine running. I will be making my own video as well! Thank you Taryl!!
P.S. It has the red hood over the engine with bagging assembly!
My dad had one of those 19" Toros. He bought it in 66 or 67. There was no scalp disc on the blade that I remember. Also the blade was S shaped. He used a side bagger. He mower with that mower until 1990 and sold it to another guy at a garage sale. Always easy to start and so light. The original Toro wheels were wider so they didn't leave marks on the lawn. He had the Tekumish engine with the exhaust through the deck. Thanks for the memories.
They did have S shaped blades, remember seeing one for the first time and thought Toro must have some good engineers
Been watching 2 weeks straight of taryl videos since discovering this channel. This dude is awesome. We had one of these mowers growing up and seeing this thing runs brings back fond childhood memories.
I like when a mechanic knows both older and new models
Once Taryl took the plastic cover off, the machine looked way more familiar. Never see those covers, nice save Taryl and you really got us with " Mr. 🎥 man " ! 👍🙂
That ending with the “camera man” was freak’n hilarious. Whoever made that camera head did a good job. That was also another good repair on a mower.
But by the way he was jumping around I knew it was slippers HaHa!
It just needed some T.L..C. Taryl loving care!
Great mechanic and teacher for we DIYers who like the old equipment. I like the detailed instruction TD gives as he goes through the renovation steps. I never knew about wireless tachometers till I subscribed to this channel. I'm glad he saved this perfectly useful mower from the scrap. On another note, the people who designed and engineered these old gas engines were geniuses. The way they operate is so clever. Thanks.
Best entertaining small engine channel hands down! Keep em coming, Taryl!
The mower us not a "turd," it's a "classic!" Thanks for another great video. In particular, your detailed explanations during each stage of work as you returned this machine to operating condition were superb. Mr Cameraman's work was also high quality. Thanks once more.
Thank you Taryldactayl for all the humor and excellent teaching skills. These instructional videos are a great help. Bless your heart.
Any equipment you touch (repair), you make it into gold! Great job Sir!
Another entertaining video from the multi talented Dactyl family!!! I am not the longest tenured subscriber but i consider myself The Dactyl family's most enthusiastic fan!!! Thank you fellows for another great video. Y'all not only entertain & educate but you are creating a good source of information for the history of small engines & their uses. Most likely Taryl Dactyl will be referenced by future generations for years to come!!! Thank you for sharing your wisdom Mr. D.
I love these antique stuff, quality was on anoher level. Cheers from Sweden 🇸🇪
Wow, this brought back a lot of memories. I worked on these engines for many years when I first started working. Its amazing that there are some left out there and still running. Thanks.
I flat wore out one like that bought in 1970. I was the family lawn care expert and was volunteered by Dad at the age of 12. It was bought by Dad at our local family run hardware. It had a different beauty cover, but everything else looks the same. I had flashbacks from the thumbnail!
It's really unbelievable the depth and history of his expertise and professionalism to be able to repair a Mower that is more than 50 years old! How unique is that talent! Plus all the comedy and levity makes him truly a pleasure to watch this Hillbillie. Fantastic all the way around. 👍👍👍
This is probably my favorite video, because it helped me get my great grandmother’s 73 Jacobson running perfectly. That little 3.5hp engine does great on a 19” deck.
These were one of the engines I liked to work on. Great engines.
Yes he is very much honest i have been a mechanic and shop owner and i can tell he is a down to earth nice guy but make no mistake he's not going to let anyone run over him and he will help u out as much as possible
Nice mower - my dad had a 21 inch Whirlwind push mower of the same vintage with a side bagger. Our 21 inch model had a Briggs like the one in the video and was equipped with a dipstick also. We moved into a home with a half acre lawn and the mower sure got some hours on it cutting the grass. It was the first lawn mower I mowed with. I took it to small engine class in high school when it was roughly 14 years old. It was the first small engine I overhauled. The mower was used for another 5 - 6 years until my father replaced it. The mower lasted 20 plus years - the deck was still good when the engine was wore out.
I haven't seen one of those Whirlwinds in nearly 30 years. The sight of that thing sure brought back some memories.
Yep, this exact mower also came with a Tecumseh LAV30 engine with an under deck muffler, I had one for many years. Mine was from 1969 and had a vertical pull starter but the ones from 1967 and earlier had crank-up impulse starters. Once it was all cranked up you would release the starter by setting the throttle control to the choke position. That mower you have was also available with a green deck and a blue shroud, they called it a Toro Fiesta mower.
Yeah ! As a kid, we had one of those wind-up starter crank thing. It quite scared me when the release knob wasn't turned all the way out.
Yikes that sounds dangerous. Those magnesium decks seem to add a lot of years to the mower. I have an old mower in my garage that I'm about to get started on fixing. It has a 2-stroke Suzuki engine and a magnesium deck. Pretty cool!
@@thedillestpickle Hang on to that Suzuki engine, they are hard to come by. I am working on finding an aftermarket carburetor or needle/seat valve for one of those as they are obsolete.
@@campbellpaul No luck so far? I just spend an hour poking around and the carb bowl is completely missing along with the rubber seal for the bowl, and the nut. Big ding on the blade, so I'm thinking something a rock was struck, and its quite stiff to turn the engine over. This might be quite an overhaul.
@@thedillestpickle If you remove the three machine screws securing the starter cup you can see if the tiny key on the crank was sheared. I own one with a working carburetor and another with a leaking carburetor. I'm squeamish to remove the carburetor studs (by locking two nuts together) as they are torqued really tight.
Taryl you are self made man and a master Mechanic I have learn so much from you and I am 73 years old Thank You Sir I love your channel
Everytime I see these old Briggs style lawnmower engines, I’m
instantly taken back to the 1970’s and I’m 10 years old dragging home an old lawnmower that someone threw away at spring cleanup and I worked on that mower till I made it run. I even had one that had a crank up style start, 2 hp Briggs. Those were the days!
yes the crank up style had a couple of them that were given to me around that time everyone knew I like working on small engines . myself I wish I could go back to 86 when I was 10
Me to I remember pushing our mover through the neighborhood knocking on doors trying to get $5 but i usually had to take whatever you could get usually $3 lol but u could geta gallon of good fuel not this crap u get today 35 cents
For trimming, you can't beat a 19" mower. Light and maneuverable. My favorite was a Jacobsen, but Snapper made a good one, too. Great video - thanks!
I like that Taryl works on the old stuff and the new stuff .
My Dad was a Toro dealer for years... The wash out plug is a sign of just how good a piece of equipment Toro was turning out back then . My Dad sold a LOT of side discharge 19's and 21's . We actually had 2 or 3 customers cut off fingers using the wash out plug. Another sign of quality and I'm surprised Taryl did not mention it is the "Anti-Scalp disc" . That 50 cent piece of metal was a huge selling point that would usually ace the sale.. . The good old days
Toro, wanted to have a riding tractor in their division and successfully purchased the Wheel Horse tractor which became a part of their division of lawn mower products.
Taryl your so down to earth and your knowledge is more than any internet could compare, you are thee ultranet in engine experience, thank you sir for sharing your gifts, your a great gift and are appreciated much, thank you and your whole family
Those old Toro decks are the best i have ever used. Mine had a 3 hp Tecumseh.
I have a Toro 21 (1975 model) My dad bought it new. Still runs and I used it to trim after mowing tonight. My Toro internally is just like the one in the video. Now I know a little more about points and condensers! Thanks Taryl
On these older models, I just go ahead and convert theme to electronic ignition. Do away with the old points. Always keep plenty of used coils on hand.
Me too. Easy fix.
You took the words right out of my mouth! Electronic ignition and the module is very inexpensive.
It would be interesting to see how you drill out the broken screw.
Just a small left hand drill bit or a dreamil tool, really easy
that mower deck design works very well--and obviously lasts forever
I love seeing old machine's come back to life
I watch most all your videos, but I really love the ones that you get old stuff going. Thanks
You know, I am not personally a big fan of the "theatrics" in these videos (although in this one it was minimal), but your level of knowledge and the video production is amazing! I can tell just how well you really know your stuff, so this is what keeps me coming back for more! Great job! Thanks for sharing your knowledge, Sir!
Hey Taryl...i had a toro similar to this one it was self propelled with a tecumseh 5.5 on it...it cut grass so perfectly..i found it under a house and had been sitting at least 20 or 25 years..they parked it because it quit running..it had a bad condenser after i got it running and put a new blade on it i used it for 6 more years..the crank seal leaked one day and it lost most of its oil..i replaced the seal but the sump was worn so it wouldn't seal..so i had to park it again ..eventually i found another motor like the one that was on it got it running again and sold it at a yard sale..i had already bought a new one so i didn't need it..after i cleaned and replaced the drive belt and another blade it cut well and pulled good too..i got 75.00 for it..I've been flippen mowers ever since..see you on the next one Cheers 🍺🍺🍺🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
That is awesome
I used one as a kid that I inherited from my grandfather. I hated that mower. Lol. Got rid of it years ago. Now I kinda wish I had it back. Had some unusual features. Oil bath carburator air cleaner. The exhaust went under the deck. Wind up starter that never worked right. A oil reservoir. That was supposed to keep you from measuring the oil with a dipstick. Had a push button. And for the 1960s had a wash out port for a hose to clean out the grass.
Oh good GOD! We HAD that very Toro! It lasted 17 years. VERY good machine!! Ours had the front wheel drive..
I called it the 'VEGA" because it puffed blue smoke out of the muffler like the Vegas did......
Well done Taryl saved another from the scrap pile,started fine and sounded great well done to you all
This is the best way to learn something, you can learn procedures from service manuals but it’s those little tricks or tips someone with experience can give you
Taryl is the MAN!!!! Nice job bringing ol girl back👍
Hey Taryl! We had that exact mower when I was a kid. I put in a lot of steps behind the ol' Whirlwind. I had a good little business cutting neighborhood lawns. Thanks for being back good memories 👍
Always loved that style of recoil on those mowers, something about how it looked just appealed to me, and the sound when you pulled it, reminded me of starting my mom's lawn boy 2 stroke mowers she used in her lawn care business
24:31 ah, the good old Briggs 381681 diaphragm kit. I ordered those by the 2 dozen every month back in the 80s
So proud to have you in the left handed brotherhood 😊
Definitely an interesting episode I tell ya. It’s nice to see this old mowers come to life. Such nostalgia! Well done.
I was 7 years old in 1973 and with my Dad when he bought one of these at the Toro dealer. It was light but underpowered, especially in tall grass. Ran great tho up until about 1988 when I accidentally hit a steel pipe, property marker with it. Broke the crank. Cool to see these still up and running today. Gotta love it!
Probably just sheared the flywheel key
Your video will ensure that a whole new generation will be opening repair shops for the future!! Great video!! Thank you !!✌️😊
I have a really old whirlwind 2 that still starts, runs, and functions properly. I found it when I was helping my neighbor move. It was buried under a bunch of junk for 10 to 15 years from what they said
I worked on tons of this style Toro Briggs as “Ditchmasters” , when you wanted to mow an area that had a sloping drop this was a nice light mower to use as a ruff cut. Took me a while to figure out the “preload” on the diaphragm but it was a pretty good engine/work horse for a non manicured yard.
These may have been underpowered, but they are light as a feather 🪶. Great trim mowers.
"Underpowered" is a relative term. I had a 3 horse that would eat through anything. It was only an 18 inch blade. Didn't need a big engine to do the job. Sure the swath was smaller, but because you could move faster, it took less time to cut the grass. The smaller mower was also lighter and less work to push.
I have a Craftsman edger that uses a similar motor. Rebuilt the carburetor with the gaskets and the diaphragm and a new primer bulb and air filter too. Runs great but normally needs starting fluid to get going. Last year the blade shaft broke in half, it's a shaft with a threaded rod at each end for attaching the pulley and the blade. I had to scramble to find a local small time machine shop. Found a guy in Highland who was closing up shop for good in a few weeks. I think he repaired it for $30 but that was basically finding a needle in a haystack. Most machine shops don't even want to touch it and if they do they want to charge you 300% the cost of the machine in the first place, in my experience at least.
yeah that hv-350 is the stuff! It looks expensive to begin with but I've more than made the money back by what I've fixed with it.
Good job! Always love to see old mowers come to life again.
The 1967 crank start version was the first lawn mower mower I ever used back in the good old days . 😁
My Dad thought they were great cuz he didn't have to use it. The crank system Not So Good
Had one almost like that when I was a kid. Best lawn mower I ever had.
We enjoy your videos! Thanks.
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That sounds exactly like a lawn chief push mower i estimate was purchased in 71 and never stopped mowing until 2005 when a riding mower replaced it.
The toro 'claim to fame' was their mowdecks. The cast aluminum vacuuming was FAR superior to contemporary stamped steel decks. (I still think OMC had them beat with their Lawnboy engines)
The "windtunnel" aluminum deck was great.... Had Snapper beat 2 to 1 back in the day
I was just thinking how good the deck looked. Was just working on mower with deck all rusted out. Most mowers now are just disposable.
Great video thanks Taryl. I found out from another youtuber how to bring that old chrome back around to use WD-40 and aluminum foil. Spray it down and scrub it with aluminum foil.
I fitted the same air filter into the sane sort of air filter on my 1988 model 3 horsepower Briggs and Stratton 92500 lawnmower engine on my Supa Swift lawnmower,I Fitted it in 2008 & I'm still using the same air filter 14 years later.
I replaced the diaphragm on the same sort of carburetor & tank setup but I removed the cover then tightened the carburetor screws before fitting rod onto the choke butterfly.
I replaced the diaphragm to try & fix a hard starting issue which I had if I left the mower sit for 10 minutes then it wouldn't start,I even adjusted the carburetor mixture screw as per Briggs and Stratton instructions which was when the engine was warm & with half a tank of fuel.
The engine was starting to use a bit of oil (200 mLs per hour) as I was having to top it up with oil every time that I mowed with it,yes,the starting & oil consumption problem was due to Worn piston rings.
I had already lapped the valves in so I pulled the bottom Half of the crankcase off as well as the cylinder head then I checked the piston ring gaps.
The compression ring gaps measured at 0.045" (1.15mm) which was above Briggs and Strattons 0.035" (0.8 mm) toss them in the bin specifications.
I fitted brand new Stens piston rings which gave me a 0.009" (0.22 mm) compression ring gap so they were a very tight fit when I Fitted them on December 24 2019,the engine still has more compression now & no more Hot starting issues.
It uses 150 mLs of oil in 10 hours of mowing at the most now.
It actually goes better than my dads 6.5 horsepower Honda lawnmower because it's a 19 year old Lawnmower which needs new piston rings,it gets a bit Smoky on startup, particularly at winter time !
Those 3and half horse power lawn mowers were pretty hardy. I mowed a bunch of fields with my 3.5 hp mowers and they came back for more!
Love the cameraman he has steady hands and tell him I said keep up the good work.
Man taryl has all kinds of new old stock wow ......pure gold
GREAT WORK with the beginning and camera filming. LOVE IT.
Love it I have and use a 1993 Toro 22040 pro line with a 2cycle Suzuki 5 horse (underrated) runs perfect I have had to take the carb a traitor apart it’s my favorite
love the black and white video insert!!!
Watching you mow snow brought an old memory. I was at a rummage sale a lo-ong time ago and saw a blade for a lawn mower for sale. It was in the box with instructions etc. It was promoted as a blade that you could mount on your push mower to throw snow. I don't think it would work here in northern Wisconsin :-).
I love my Toro 21" recycler mag deck with the Suzuki 2 stroke from 1991. Best mulcher ever.
Those were great mowers. I bought my 1992 model used in 2001, the deck was corroded from the previous owner washing it frequently. I ran it until the deck was broken, engine still ran like a top.
I got some of those vintage cable clamps from you for my 81 White Outdoor products track drive snow blower I recently restored....works great and looks great....thank you.
the ending🤣 pretty good
I love the new turd polishing series
Could you imagine someone driving down the street seeing you mowing snow at your house you wouldn't have to worry about coming over to say hi lol
Enjoyed Taryl threatening the camera man. Another Great Video Thankyou
it's fun to work on the old stuff occasionally. I've got the mower engine I bought (the only mower I've bought) in 1991, it's the same number, but from 74
Hi Daryl im surprised you dont have a small hydraulic lift to get the small mowers off the floor to fix, i love mine that i made just using a car jack. I hate working on the dog shelf it paggers ur knees .Any way great vid as always.
Remember using an older version Toro that had gas tank mounted on handle bars. Thing would go through 2 ft grass and never miss a beat.
I'm surprised the deck isn't blow out at the front of the discharge. I've got two of these, one 19" and one 21" and both are broken there. I love these mowers cause they are light and low to the ground, perfect for trimming under pine trees, etc. They are hard to find replacement engines cause the engine shaft is so short... Great find!
Yea old magnesium deck mowers are a treat. I have an old one with a 2-stroke suzuki engine on it. It has steel wheels painted in white, and chrome plated handlebar and exhaust cover. I bet it is a pleasure to run once I get it fixed up.
This is the closest engine I've found to my snapper, thanks for showing how it works on depth, only thing I need to figure out now is how to adjust my carb like you did
I like the recoil on that old mower. I was 7 years old when that mower was new lol. We actually had that model. Pretty neat seeing that old model. Finally got to see camera man 😂😂😂
Hey Taryl ,reminds me of the time I had a old Crapsmen mower I couldn't get a new recoil start for. Thought I was smart using my new 1/2" drill with a socket on top of the flywheel to start it until it backfired one day destroying the teeth on every gear inside the drill. And there's your dinner.
i have one of those in my collection has a carb before the vacu-jet and pulsa-jet .....no diaphragm , the gas tank looks the same. just has a whole smaller than a quarter and a screw hole on each side. i also have 2 side pull B&S mowers, 1 was a curb find snapper the other was my first mower my parents bought me in 65'
I'm still using my 1982 Toro. A lot of similarities, except 21" and self propelled. Had a black engine cover, hinged for the fuel tank I think I might have tossed that when we moved a few years ago. We bought it new for my mother during the 1982 World Series at the local hardware store to replace her Jacobsen from about 1967. Its a tank, and might run forever! I just change the oil and order-up whatever it needs to keep going.
the discord with the camera man was a neat twist. got some chuckles from it. see you next week
I like that little red rig in the background
52:53 was the first time I could laugh from up the war did start. Many thanks for that you Taryl team.
I used to have a mower with that same tank/carb setup, every time I tried to hot start it, it would not start unless I propped the choke open. If I let it cool down, it would start right up........I don't miss that mower!!!!.........Nice info on setting up that diaphram/choke position...........
I wish Briggs would have kept using that type of starter, I always have liked them.
The B&S "L head" motors were truly amazing. If a person changed the oil once a year and cleaned the air filter (and didn't hit something solid that bent the shaft) those motors would literally run for ever with only the occasional points and condenser and, rarely, an exhaust valve job. I had one of these already 10 years old used motors as a 7 year old kid and I mowed yards in my neighborhood for the next 10 years with it. The motor wore out 3 different decks. I ended up giving it to an ex girlfriend. It burned some oil but still ran well.
I sure do miss that Girlfreind
@@andrewnorris1514 LMAO!!! Yeah, she was good, but crazy!! I have a wife now, and she is sane- a rare commodity.
If points are pitted the condenser is not doing its job, so we always replace both. The condenser/capacitor discharges when points close and charges when open. Current wants to keep flowing when pts open and empty condenser provides a place for it to go controlled so it doesn't arc across the points and burn them. I read this on the side of a Hamm's beer can in the fun facts. LOL
Very well edited Mr. Cameraman. People don't give you enough credit. P.S. you left a shot of your right foot, i.e. evidence of your parental lineage from previous videos.
Great Job Taryl.
In my 5 years of being a grass rat I have not the privilege of messing with any small engines with points. Thanks to you Taryl I'll know haw to fix em when I do. I remember back in the day when I had cars with points. I hated chevy's because they were on the backside of the motor. Thanks Taryl
Most people just deleat them with the electronic magneto , magnetron on the old Briggs flatheads.
That style briggs motor is well older than me..........but I remember fixing plenty of them as a kid. Pretty reliable motors.
Very nice repair! I remember when those were the current model Briggs engine. Still have one! I laughed a lot at your mowing snow!
That hv350 is some great stuff,thanks !