Makes you wonder how would Earth defend itself from a proper invasion force when it could barely hold its ground against what was basically an armed escort.
That's likely why they never addressed it in C&C 4. They realized they wrote themselves into a corner and couldn't get out without some wacky ultimate superweapon or something. So they decided to just do nothing with it instead.
@@Jack29245 That is true in one sense but in another sense, they never actually fully explained what the Tacitus was or what it did so in another sense they were free to come up with endless possibilities for that. My assumption was that the Tacitus would allow Nod to invade the Scrin homeworld and CNC would expand to a war over 2 planets. GDI would lag behind at the beginning but then discover new tech to be able to follow Nod to the Scrin homeworld. That could have been a starting point in my eyes.
Books happened, though were largely mediocre, but I still see a giant extended universe behind all this, with mostly untapped potential. At least we’re getting the remasters, that’s some movement at least.
Command and Conquer Web series Season 1-2: Tiberium Dawn, in 2019 a meteor impact carring an alien substance lands in the Tiber river, a young man with extreme views discovers an ancient Brotherhood and begins to fall in with their conspiracy as a new branch of the UN starts to form to safe guard the future as an alien crystal may hold the keys to unlimited energy. Season 3-4 : Red Alert, in a secret laboratory in 1945 DR. Albert Einstine transports himself back in time during the early 20th century to kill the Fuerer before his time but fate has other plans as without the 3rd rach, the USSR the Red Bear of the east begins its plans for a world revolution. The 2nd World war is reborn. Season 5-6: Tiberium Sun, 2030 Tiberium has began changing the Earth its wildlife changed, its seas turned green with algae and its skies darken with the alien energies of the crystals, GDI has taken control, most of civilization is under their stuartship as after Kanes death the Brotherhood fractured with one of its leaders under the thumb of GDI, but a Prophet can't remain buried for long, the Sun in the new Tiberian world has risen. Season 8:Firestorm Crisis, Cabal a biological A.I has rebelled against Nod and seek the extinction of humanity. Season 9-10: Red Alert 2, 1975 the world has recovered from the 2nd World War but peace can not last as the Soviet Union have recovered from its greatest defeat under the leadership of Premier Romanov a new Soviet Revolution comes to the new world with the Man of Steel's psychic legacy in their hands. Season 11-15:Yuri's Revenge + Red Alert 3, after the 3rd World war Yuri former advisor to Premier Romanov enact his plans for world conquest the Allies and Soviets tried their best to defend free will itself but they failed but time is on their side. Season 16-20: Generals, 2001 for 30 years the nations of the world have maintained peace but a new age of conflict has begun not with borders and industry but in the untamed sands of the Near East as 2 immerging Powers take center stage in the coming dawn of a new age. Season 21- 30 Tiberium Wars, 2032 the Prophet Kane awakens in a world that has forgotten him his loyal brothers and sisters are no more, his Temple destroyed and his vision Perverted by the ambition of the weak but only one thing remains his fury and wrath that boils in his damaged shell but in the ashes of his prodigal child is a new one, one that shall be the will of his mechanical mind and its name is LEGION and with its might Kane the Son of Adam can now ascend.
I always liked how Westwood themselves implied Kane to be the biblical Cain as early as Tiberium Dawn. In the end credits there is a crane lifting a weird red rock from the rubbles of the Nod Temple, and then displayed in a museum it clearly depicts Cain killing Abel.
It's more like Kane has been around forever, killed some Abel guy, and the Bible wrote around and about the whole thing. As much as Kane quotes Scripture, I wonder if he actually believes in Jesus.
@@rvkice23 Probably yes. My idea is that Kane was responsible for at least the spread of the myth to be able to build the ideology of Nod upon it later. It is also possible that Abel has never actually existed and Kane simply created the whole story himself.
When I first started playing this game, the tiberium is like a weed that comes to a garden and slowly but surely kills the plants and then seeds itself across becoming the only plant in the garden. It's interesting to think about
I see you went from "Kill it with fire!" to "Bomb it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!" in how to deal with Visceroids. I approve of this usage of overkill.
@@NoStringsPrd Now I wonder does Renegade have a console that can be accessed that lets you spawn in weapons...Maybe a nuclear strike would be in order to deal with anymore suddenly spawning Visceroids. That dang boat sure loves tossing them at poor Havoc just wanting to shoot up the place, rescue those prisoner of war, and blow stuff up. If there is such a console: What other secrets doth it hide, I wonder? Also - How the boat can tank an ion cannon strike when buildings cannot may be a good question...It's one mighty strong boat. An Ion cannon doesn't even slow it down, but one perpetually grumpy commando sure does.
There is a command console in Ren, but I'm not sure how much it has. I use it to remove the hud, but the command for infinite health doesn't seem to work. I think the console has been limited by the scripts add-on for more fair multiplayer, and I need scripts in order to play at higher resolutions
No Strings Prd It *does* have modifiers for vehicles, such as increasing wheel height or suspension strength to make a 20 foot tall buggy, or making a tank that can only move via drifting...
@@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange A normal buggy rush is already an unspeakable level of horror to endure....but 20 foot tall ones? That's some next level horror right there.
In C&C3, you could actually see the Tiberium growing in closer detail. The green veins extend outwards in the area around them, and slowly small Tiberium crystals begin to form and pulsate with a green glow, and grow bigger over time. It was a very nice touch to the game.
@@finegamingconnoisseur Possibly one of the only good C&C games EA ever provided, despite its flaws and lack of content. (like getting rid of the fauna and flora entirely, while the Forgotten were... *forgotten)* Still, one cannot deny, the Scrin were by far THE BEST new thing out of that game! Even if they diverged quite a lot from Westwood's original vision for them, the Scrin remain one of my favourite alien factions ever. I just love everything about their aesthetic! EDIT: *I'm so sorry about this next part, I REALLY got carried away.* 😅 _PS: on Skirmish mode, I used to pretend my Generators were "alien houses" and I'd train multitudes of Assimilators and Disruptors needlessly, just to make the _*_population_*_ of my new "Scrin city"._ (I swear the pun was unintentional) It was really a bunch of silly things, but I had so much fun with them! 😊 Assimilators would be the harmless "civilians", Disruptors would be the local "police", and then the Mastermind and the Shock Troopers would be the "mayor" or leader of the city, accompanied by either the "military soldiers" or the "elite bodyguards", whichever role I felt wanting to have the Shock Troopers play. _Oh, and Buzzers would be the pets._ Like how the Allied have dogs and Soviets have bears in the Red Alert universe. Buzzers are the domesticated version of hive-like Tiberium creatures that would otherwise roam free in Tiberium fields.
Shame they Never followed up on that Threshold tower Plot point. Well at least C&C 3 was a decent note to leave the series on. If EA had tried to make a sequel they probably would of screwed it up so bad that it it actively Erases itself from your memory Like that 1 Doctor Who Badguy
@@yourallygod8261 eh, they're definitely worse than ra2 or yuris revenge, but not as awful as a game that could be made by ea continuing the tiberium timeline
Nice job catching the detail that the Scrin force sent to Earth was merely a harvesting expedition and not a army. The game even says as much, as during the Scrin campaign the player is refered to as 'foreman' not 'general' or 'commander'
I love how we didn’t even acknowledge … “it”. after going over CNC 3 lore. Because nothing happens after CNC 3. Story ends there, to hopefully be continued at a later date
The reclamation of the Tacitus from GDI using borgs? Or what? I only remembered that, because it's the last thing that happened and it's considered canonical event, since Kane had predicted Legion's return. Plus he didn't even mentioned it.
I decided to cut the late KW missions just for time, since it wasn't relevant enough to the subject of Tiberium itself, but the seige by LEGION for the Tacitus was referenced as an easter egg at 21:10 in the lower-left text
@@NoStringsPrd please make a cnc tiberium war 1 , 2 , 3 , 3.5 (KW) and 4 (cnc4 tiberium twilight) why cuz cnc4 is cannon and we dont have complete lore
@@omriyetanl3915 I reject C&C4 as canon as it negatively impacts the narrative and characters of the earlier games, the lore is improved by its removal. I'll probably cover C&C4 at some point in some way but not in any lore video
That "Given how many lives went missing without known cause since the arrival of tiberium" gave me such a ghost story vibe. Perfectly executed lore video, thank you.
I feel like Tiberium wouldn't feel too out of place in a Lovecraft story. I mean it already has some of the base requirements for a non-sentient eldritch entity of unknowable and alien power ala The Color from 'The Colour Out of Space'. It may not be as _much_ of an abomination but it has been described as otherworldly and alien. we still have only a vague and primitive understanding. But the things that it spawns and mutants are _certainly_ Lovecraftian, plant matter turning to a fleshy material, horse-sized croc-hounds that shoot Tib spikes, and a living battle-blimp that shoots lighting. Tiberium is also the ultimate MacGuffin that could literally do anything with how vague and mysterious it is. Need Psychic dream defense? Boom, Tiberium. Other dimensional creatures and energies? Boom, Tiberium. Need a permanent but cheap and effective defensive No Man's Land? Boom, Tiberium. Need an answer to God's angels and other alien gods kicking in the door? Boom, Tiberium. Technological renaissance in the need of a shot in the arm? Boom, Green Apocalypse Crystal.
Amazing remaster of a a previous episode, and I like how this time "the C&C that shall not be named" is completely cut directly after TibWars. That prelude to an unsure conclusion makes my imagination go wild, and honestly C&C deserves a much well written conclusion than what we had.
i love the lovecraftian vibes of the scrin, a super advanced yet very supersticious and religious race that spreads and feeds on a substance that causes mass madness and corruption everywhere it goes, people turn mad, some mutate others create cults and praise the mysterious substance. Also the way they talk and name some of their stuff, like the 1 click wrath of the gods.
That description of the tiberium landscape from 13:26 onward is so perfect. To me, that description illustrates the big difference between the tib universe vis a vis Red Alert. Whereas I love Red Alert for the gameplay and it´s rather fun story and lore, the Tiberium Universe is just so dark and depressing. The tone is much more serious. And just as the Red Alert 2 gameplay is fun and fast the Tiberian Sun gameplay is slower, more methodical, with a threathening and darker soundtrack. It is almost as if the game is emulating the spread of Tiberium over our planet. Well made video as always!
Scrins: Wait, what? GDI: Hey look, a new race NOD: You wanna fight them? GDI: Im gonna fight both of you! Scrins: W-w-whats going on?? How could this people be so ready to war!? Nod: Battle Royal man!!!
*Their abscense in **_"that which must not be named"_** was my first sign that EA was screwing up with the game.* _Wish some of my friends could've seen that, before buying the game._
@@MrDibara see if TT was actually good and a actual C&C game, even with a mediocre narrative id forgive its lack of Scrin being the focus or involved, as "the scrin are working to gather their military forces for the invasion of Earth" while Nod and GDI are still selfishly fighitn one anouther, and then later on decide to set aside differences to prepare for the scrins invasion force leading into C&C 5 but alas, we were forsaken.
I just think it's a shame that Tiberium doesn't expand infinitely in the newer games. It was cool in Tiberian Sun, when the crystal sooner or later ate the own base :D
Very fitting that you updated this as if in accordance with the remaster. TS will always be my favored childhood game. I think of the engineers carrying their tool bags and find it somehow ironic that I chose to become an electrical apprentice. I like to think that this game subconsciously affected my life in a small way.
Most of the TD FMVs are the new remastered ones, there there's three that I think look better in the original VQAs. The Tib Sun cutscenes are also now upscaled to 2560x1440, so they should also be sharper than before. 99% of the gameplay is newly recorded, the old stuff was only 1080, and at a comparatively low bitrate
@@cettechaineestcloture.1351 Tiberium chanches the DNA like ( orign scrin theory) once the scrin. So advancements start first biological from mutations. And all tech will be more and more Tiberium based.
Any chance we may get a reboot of the Tiberium Wars series, or just a straight up Tiberium 4 "reset" game that ignored the unspeakable shame that is c&c4 and continues onwards from KW? Because that'd be awesome. And honestly, I'd like to see a dune-like Risk tier campaign map with massive armies. That'd be awesome AF.
I have never played this game and dont plan on changing that, your video popped up on my reccomended for some reason and I thoroughly enjoyed the way you lay everything out. Keep it up bro.
I really love this channel. So many memories with this series -- especially Red Alert 2. My brother, dad, and I would set up LAN games and team up against AI players. Thank you so much for your videos! I didn't know how little information I actually knew about this series.
8:05 - You know it's kind of funny, when I was a kid playing TibSun I thought that the Tiberian Fiends were more like oversized Tiberium mutated wild boars. Their shapes sort of looked like they had tusks and the sound they made while attacking sounded like a boar grunting and snorting to me.
I can see that, they look a little like it and they do make weird noises, there's a C&C3 mod (can't remember which) that interprets them like that. I go by the FS manual (gamepedia.cursecdn.com/cnc_gamepedia_en/3/37/Manual_Firestorm.pdf?version=57236bd9e559bb3d976b757e6373f380) which refers to them as 'Canus Tiberius', which I think is perhaps the 'Canis' genus misspelled, as in pertaining to canines. Even though they have tusks, I think it fits. The C&C3 mod The Forgotten has I think the most faithful rendition of the old Tib Sun sprites, only without the tusks, there's a bit of footage of them at 3:00 in my video on The Forgotten if you're interested
Dude this is the shit, well done sir! Tibirium always fascinated me and when i was 9 playing those games i never understood it but it kept killing my mass nade and rocket armies i always used lol.
Man this franchise deserves so much more and your videos only further cement that idea to me. Such an interesting universe that I would love to explore. Just imagine a FPS in this universe! A fully fleshed out campaign and/or a battlefront like multiplayer within the tiberium wars universe would be SO great! Of course a new RTS would be ideal but the possibilities for good games is just everywhere. Tiberium: Command and Conquer could of been awesome if it was not canceled.
I still cringe so badly at the EA design of the GDI Refinery. Herpderp lets handle radioactive, self replicating crystals exposed in the air alongside our big pool of molten green, radioactive death. Tiberium pods or go home! :P Still, love your production quality. Your material is a great source to use when showing others how epic the C&C lore really is.
@@obelic71 I mean these things are not just deployed in contaminated red zones, but GDI happily uses them in the middle of blue zones as well. Seriously, the storyline of C&C3 I don't complain much about, but whoever was in charge of designing the unit and building models at EA must have been really tripping out on something funny.
@@nodcommanderthe5823 I know it just looks cool but when you look at the scrin extractor it also spews out contamination out of the top at every dump of the harvester . The silo's of Nod and GDI have even Chimeys spuwing a greenish black tiberium mist out!
@@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook To be fair, walkers never made any sense, ever, in any sci-fi. But they looked cool, and walkers are established sci-fi hardware. TS had some odd designs, some even outright ugly (looking at you, tick tank). Looking at something like the Nod scorpion tank from C&C3, it is a downright silly design. The driver/commander sits in a big red glass cupola in the front of the tank; it is like a big bright target on a huge weakspot. The Predator is slightly more believable, but it still suffers from some odd design decisions, with the tank treads being completely exposed without any armour at all. Thank goodness for Tiberium Essence, I have to say. :P Because I love the gameplay of C&C3.
I do really love your videos about these. Id love to watch a full documentary made by you about this and everythinf included. You have done more than your homework.
While i'd love another C&C entry i'd be equally interested in a Red alert and a Tiberium crossover game where the Scrin due to a timeline collapse arrive on an Earth that has no Tiberium for their full invasion force to use while the various factions collide for control.
My theory on why Nod claim ownership of the term Tiberium: They planted the idea, no matter how indirect. And the coincidence of the meteor landing near a river with the same namesake as the Emperor that Kane chose? Kane played 5D Chess just for a name for this resource
I could watch hours and hours of this. C&C lore has always really really fascinated me. It's like an onion. As you peel it away there's just more layers underneath, while still keeping that air of mystery that always makes you want to come back for more and speculate about all the 'what ifs'. Appreciate the feedback on my campaign by the way! Keep up the good work, mate.
I love this game I want to be more proactive in it but I'm so busy working most of the time. Thanks for the vid Stefan :) I wish EA still had the C&C3TW and KW online game servers up. Heres an idea. Let's start a petition to get it back up and running!
I'm so upset they never developed the Scrin further. There was so much more world building to do, so much more Lore to flesh out on the Scrin and the true nature of Tiberium/Ichor.
Stefan, or Stephan... Whichever... You have outdone yourself with the quality of this video, compared to your last one. Incredible video... It felt like a history briefing inside an academy of some sort... Which makes you sound professor like, or even just military commander like, informing new recruits as to the dangers and history of Tiberium. Loved it... They could totally make a decent c&c film one day.
I get the feeling that Tiberium might have been an "oops" by the Scrin. Considering how aggressive Tiberium is its unlikely to have been natural, or the world it originated from would have ended up as a chunk of pure tiberium. It seems more likely that a race desperate to hold off their own extinction would make the mistake of a self replicating fuel source
So when Tiberium gets harvested by NOD and GDI, are the crystals themselves being used to make their tanks and ships? Or is it sort of being sold off to others who give them the money to purchase tanks and equipment?
I really love how the game developers built in a natural explanation for the "life cycle" of Tiberium through the exposition provided by the game's cutscenes. Through the context provided by the games, especially Tib Sun and Tib Wars, it is implied that all phenomena caused by Tiberium, be it mutation, ion storms, the transformation caused by the self-replicating proton-lattice or liquid Tiberium are integral parts of the seeding and harvesting process. Although it begs the question who or what could design something so marvelous and terrible as Tiberium... Shame Tiberium Wars never got a sequel that could have answered this question to some extend.
I like how the C&C fanbase seems to have collectively decided C&C4 is non canon and just ignores it. Would really love to see a real sequel to the third game one day.
haha i love how u completely ignored existence of CNC4! great job bro! even though as an old fan of tiberium universe i did know everything about tiberium but still did enjoy your video alot:)
Considering how Tiberium has a nasty habit of chain reacting when certain weapons are used, I wonder what would happen if someone sent one of those weapons through the Threshold tower for the Scrin to enjoy...
Or just anything else. If you see your pet ingesting tibirium contaminated food or something else, do it a favour and take behind the shed or to the vet to be put down.
I am desperately hoping that the C&C remasters continue to thrive, and that.. some day.. a brand new C&C game set in the tiberium universe might be created again. I mean, i'll take any C&C game, but the tiberium universe has a much deeper lore than the others.
![What Happened to Command & Conquer? [OUTDATED] - A History of Failed Spin-Offs](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zcC7l8xEm0c/mqdefault.jpg)
“What is Tiberium?” Selected.
Upgrading.
Upgrade complete.
Mission accomplished.
*Battle Control Terminated*
Establishing briefing. Stand by.
Nuclear launch detected
terminating connection
😈
What is Tiberium?
-
C&C 3 Nod Harvester - "Tiberium is the answer."
@@HragFarraGaming Fields of green.
Always loved that the Scrin we met was a workforce led by a foreman and not a military force led by a commander like GDI and Nod
Another reason CNC4 was such a missed opportunity I suppose. =(
Makes you wonder how would Earth defend itself from a proper invasion force when it could barely hold its ground against what was basically an armed escort.
Jordan Read yeah here’s to hoping that EA listens and actually makes a good game out of the command and conquer universe
That's likely why they never addressed it in C&C 4. They realized they wrote themselves into a corner and couldn't get out without some wacky ultimate superweapon or something. So they decided to just do nothing with it instead.
@@Jack29245 That is true in one sense but in another sense, they never actually fully explained what the Tacitus was or what it did so in another sense they were free to come up with endless possibilities for that. My assumption was that the Tacitus would allow Nod to invade the Scrin homeworld and CNC would expand to a war over 2 planets. GDI would lag behind at the beginning but then discover new tech to be able to follow Nod to the Scrin homeworld. That could have been a starting point in my eyes.
This universe could make such a good scifi movie
Red warning, the Chronocles of Tiberium, General War
I have a concept of a comic that with the help of some willing friends I might actually do something with
Books happened, though were largely mediocre, but I still see a giant extended universe behind all this, with mostly untapped potential. At least we’re getting the remasters, that’s some movement at least.
A C&C comic? Ping me a link if you release anything!
Command and Conquer Web series
Season 1-2: Tiberium Dawn, in 2019 a meteor impact carring an alien substance lands in the Tiber river, a young man with extreme views discovers an ancient Brotherhood and begins to fall in with their conspiracy as a new branch of the UN starts to form to safe guard the future as an alien crystal may hold the keys to unlimited energy.
Season 3-4 : Red Alert, in a secret laboratory in 1945 DR. Albert Einstine transports himself back in time during the early 20th century to kill the Fuerer before his time but fate has other plans as without the 3rd rach, the USSR the Red Bear of the east begins its plans for a world revolution. The 2nd World war is reborn.
Season 5-6: Tiberium Sun, 2030 Tiberium has began changing the Earth its wildlife changed, its seas turned green with algae and its skies darken with the alien energies of the crystals, GDI has taken control, most of civilization is under their stuartship as after Kanes death the Brotherhood fractured with one of its leaders under the thumb of GDI, but a Prophet can't remain buried for long, the Sun in the new Tiberian world has risen.
Season 8:Firestorm Crisis, Cabal a biological A.I has rebelled against Nod and seek the extinction of humanity.
Season 9-10: Red Alert 2, 1975 the world has recovered from the 2nd World War but peace can not last as the Soviet Union have recovered from its greatest defeat under the leadership of Premier Romanov a new Soviet Revolution comes to the new world with the Man of Steel's psychic legacy in their hands.
Season 11-15:Yuri's Revenge + Red Alert 3, after the 3rd World war Yuri former advisor to Premier Romanov enact his plans for world conquest the Allies and Soviets tried their best to defend free will itself but they failed but time is on their side.
Season 16-20: Generals, 2001 for 30 years the nations of the world have maintained peace but a new age of conflict has begun not with borders and industry but in the untamed sands of the Near East as 2 immerging Powers take center stage in the coming dawn of a new age.
Season 21- 30 Tiberium Wars, 2032 the Prophet Kane awakens in a world that has forgotten him his loyal brothers and sisters are no more, his Temple destroyed and his vision Perverted by the ambition of the weak but only one thing remains his fury and wrath that boils in his damaged shell but in the ashes of his prodigal child is a new one, one that shall be the will of his mechanical mind and its name is LEGION and with its might Kane the Son of Adam can now ascend.
I always liked how Westwood themselves implied Kane to be the biblical Cain as early as Tiberium Dawn. In the end credits there is a crane lifting a weird red rock from the rubbles of the Nod Temple, and then displayed in a museum it clearly depicts Cain killing Abel.
KANE
LIVES!
I was thinking "you know, it would be really cool if kane was the cain of the bible." It seems they were 4 parallel universes ahead of me 😂
It's more like Kane has been around forever, killed some Abel guy, and the Bible wrote around and about the whole thing. As much as Kane quotes Scripture, I wonder if he actually believes in Jesus.
@@rvkice23The first outcast.
@@rvkice23 Probably yes. My idea is that Kane was responsible for at least the spread of the myth to be able to build the ideology of Nod upon it later. It is also possible that Abel has never actually existed and Kane simply created the whole story himself.
When I first started playing this game, the tiberium is like a weed that comes to a garden and slowly but surely kills the plants and then seeds itself across becoming the only plant in the garden. It's interesting to think about
this crystal unknown has absorped more creative
I see you went from "Kill it with fire!" to "Bomb it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!" in how to deal with Visceroids. I approve of this usage of overkill.
Every time I use that scene, I rerecord it to be sillier each time. I don't think we can surpass this one, so maybe consider that scene retired
@@NoStringsPrd Now I wonder does Renegade have a console that can be accessed that lets you spawn in weapons...Maybe a nuclear strike would be in order to deal with anymore suddenly spawning Visceroids. That dang boat sure loves tossing them at poor Havoc just wanting to shoot up the place, rescue those prisoner of war, and blow stuff up.
If there is such a console: What other secrets doth it hide, I wonder?
Also - How the boat can tank an ion cannon strike when buildings cannot may be a good question...It's one mighty strong boat. An Ion cannon doesn't even slow it down, but one perpetually grumpy commando sure does.
There is a command console in Ren, but I'm not sure how much it has. I use it to remove the hud, but the command for infinite health doesn't seem to work. I think the console has been limited by the scripts add-on for more fair multiplayer, and I need scripts in order to play at higher resolutions
No Strings Prd It *does* have modifiers for vehicles, such as increasing wheel height or suspension strength to make a 20 foot tall buggy, or making a tank that can only move via drifting...
@@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange A normal buggy rush is already an unspeakable level of horror to endure....but 20 foot tall ones? That's some next level horror right there.
In C&C3, you could actually see the Tiberium growing in closer detail. The green veins extend outwards in the area around them, and slowly small Tiberium crystals begin to form and pulsate with a green glow, and grow bigger over time. It was a very nice touch to the game.
There was a C&C 3?
@@thomasfrivold1380 Yes it was released in 2007, some 15 years ago. Ancient history in the world of video games haha.
@@finegamingconnoisseur And I thought it was very good!
@@thomasfrivold1380 yes tiberum wars
@@finegamingconnoisseur Possibly one of the only good C&C games EA ever provided, despite its flaws and lack of content. (like getting rid of the fauna and flora entirely, while the Forgotten were... *forgotten)*
Still, one cannot deny, the Scrin were by far THE BEST new thing out of that game! Even if they diverged quite a lot from Westwood's original vision for them, the Scrin remain one of my favourite alien factions ever. I just love everything about their aesthetic!
EDIT: *I'm so sorry about this next part, I REALLY got carried away.* 😅
_PS: on Skirmish mode, I used to pretend my Generators were "alien houses" and I'd train multitudes of Assimilators and Disruptors needlessly, just to make the _*_population_*_ of my new "Scrin city"._ (I swear the pun was unintentional)
It was really a bunch of silly things, but I had so much fun with them! 😊
Assimilators would be the harmless "civilians", Disruptors would be the local "police", and then the Mastermind and the Shock Troopers would be the "mayor" or leader of the city, accompanied by either the "military soldiers" or the "elite bodyguards", whichever role I felt wanting to have the Shock Troopers play.
_Oh, and Buzzers would be the pets._
Like how the Allied have dogs and Soviets have bears in the Red Alert universe. Buzzers are the domesticated version of hive-like Tiberium creatures that would otherwise roam free in Tiberium fields.
The original video was so good, glad this remake was made to update the visuals with C&C Remastered :D
Shame they Never followed up on that Threshold tower Plot point. Well at least C&C 3 was a decent note to leave the series on. If EA had tried to make a sequel they probably would of screwed it up so bad that it it actively Erases itself from your memory Like that 1 Doctor Who Badguy
Yes... no other games came out after kanes wrath :)
@@yourallygod8261 Wait, what about RA3 and Uprising?
@@CnCDune haven't played em so no opinion on em
Are you referring to the Absorbaloff from Love and Monsters?
@@yourallygod8261 eh, they're definitely worse than ra2 or yuris revenge, but not as awful as a game that could be made by ea continuing the tiberium timeline
Nice job catching the detail that the Scrin force sent to Earth was merely a harvesting expedition and not a army. The game even says as much, as during the Scrin campaign the player is refered to as 'foreman' not 'general' or 'commander'
I love how we didn’t even acknowledge … “it”. after going over CNC 3 lore.
Because nothing happens after CNC 3. Story ends there, to hopefully be continued at a later date
The reclamation of the Tacitus from GDI using borgs? Or what?
I only remembered that, because it's the last thing that happened and it's considered canonical event, since Kane had predicted Legion's return. Plus he didn't even mentioned it.
I guess?
I decided to cut the late KW missions just for time, since it wasn't relevant enough to the subject of Tiberium itself, but the seige by LEGION for the Tacitus was referenced as an easter egg at 21:10 in the lower-left text
@@NoStringsPrd please make a cnc tiberium war 1 , 2 , 3 , 3.5 (KW) and 4 (cnc4 tiberium twilight) why cuz cnc4 is cannon and we dont have complete lore
@@omriyetanl3915 I reject C&C4 as canon as it negatively impacts the narrative and characters of the earlier games, the lore is improved by its removal. I'll probably cover C&C4 at some point in some way but not in any lore video
That "Given how many lives went missing without known cause since the arrival of tiberium" gave me such a ghost story vibe. Perfectly executed lore video, thank you.
Another wonderful movie for Command & Conquer lore...
Better than End Game!
@@TheRetroPerspective
I guess so... they should revive this great lore... so much potential...
@Angel
Yeah, that might be a good idea...
They can even show Kane in this movie...
@Angel
Yes, this kind of scenario might work... and even make it more interesting..
I feel like Tiberium wouldn't feel too out of place in a Lovecraft story. I mean it already has some of the base requirements for a non-sentient eldritch entity of unknowable and alien power ala The Color from 'The Colour Out of Space'. It may not be as _much_ of an abomination but it has been described as otherworldly and alien. we still have only a vague and primitive understanding. But the things that it spawns and mutants are _certainly_ Lovecraftian, plant matter turning to a fleshy material, horse-sized croc-hounds that shoot Tib spikes, and a living battle-blimp that shoots lighting.
Tiberium is also the ultimate MacGuffin that could literally do anything with how vague and mysterious it is. Need Psychic dream defense? Boom, Tiberium. Other dimensional creatures and energies? Boom, Tiberium. Need a permanent but cheap and effective defensive No Man's Land? Boom, Tiberium. Need an answer to God's angels and other alien gods kicking in the door? Boom, Tiberium. Technological renaissance in the need of a shot in the arm? Boom, Green Apocalypse Crystal.
Need toilets paper? Boom tiberium.
That would just kill you.
Amazing remaster of a a previous episode, and I like how this time "the C&C that shall not be named" is completely cut directly after TibWars. That prelude to an unsure conclusion makes my imagination go wild, and honestly C&C deserves a much well written conclusion than what we had.
i love the lovecraftian vibes of the scrin, a super advanced yet very supersticious and religious race that spreads and feeds on a substance that causes mass madness and corruption everywhere it goes, people turn mad, some mutate others create cults and praise the mysterious substance. Also the way they talk and name some of their stuff, like the 1 click wrath of the gods.
That description of the tiberium landscape from 13:26 onward is so perfect. To me, that description illustrates the big difference between the tib universe vis a vis Red Alert. Whereas I love Red Alert for the gameplay and it´s rather fun story and lore, the Tiberium Universe is just so dark and depressing. The tone is much more serious. And just as the Red Alert 2 gameplay is fun and fast the Tiberian Sun gameplay is slower, more methodical, with a threathening and darker soundtrack. It is almost as if the game is emulating the spread of Tiberium over our planet. Well made video as always!
Tiberium is life.
He who controls the Tiberium commands the Earth, much like he who controls the Spice commands the universe via the Spacing Guild.
excellent reference, especially given Westwood's game before C&C was Dune II.
nice
the Tiberium must flow...
😈
It is life for scrin thats for sure, they did refer it as inchor.
"You can't kill the messiah, Kane lives!" - Diar, unkown NOD sub commander
I am surely glad No Strings Prd is not in their "Twilight" of making C&C content...
I see what you did there!
Ha ha funny person
*clap clap clap*
This video legit gave me chills! So well done. And always nice to have that reminder why I love the Command and Conquer universe so much.
its a pleasure to see your compilation again,
commander.
.
.
.
still waiting official TibSun Remastered :))
*"You can't kill the messiah, Kane lives!" - Diar, unkown NOD sub commander.*
(thanks for the entertainment, awesome video)
Humans: NOOOO! You can't just put your crystal to our Earth, it'll kill us
Scrin: Haha farming crystal go brrr
Nod: Haha humanity go ascension
Scrins: Wait, what?
GDI: Hey look, a new race
NOD: You wanna fight them?
GDI: Im gonna fight both of you!
Scrins: W-w-whats going on?? How could this people be so ready to war!?
Nod: Battle Royal man!!!
resistance to plant become consumed
GDI: haha sonic wepons goes pew pew
haha, this joke is stupid.
@@juliane.mfarias9285 "They were not prepared for this."
Forgotten three faction war party embracing their fourth wheel!
The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said..... But still they come!
*UUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!*
Hope you'll tackle the Scrin and how much disappointment it was that they became a non-entity when Tibby-Twilight happened.
*Their abscense in **_"that which must not be named"_** was my first sign that EA was screwing up with the game.*
_Wish some of my friends could've seen that, before buying the game._
@@MrDibara see if TT was actually good and a actual C&C game, even with a mediocre narrative id forgive its lack of Scrin being the focus or involved, as "the scrin are working to gather their military forces for the invasion of Earth"
while Nod and GDI are still selfishly fighitn one anouther, and then later on decide to set aside differences to prepare for the scrins invasion force leading into C&C 5
but alas, we were forsaken.
I just think it's a shame that Tiberium doesn't expand infinitely in the newer games. It was cool in Tiberian Sun, when the crystal sooner or later ate the own base :D
Honestly the way you presented this; I feel like this would make an amazing movie or at least a TV series. Well done.
TV series maybe. Not a movie though. But with the way games have been turned into movies, it'll be ruined and turn out bad.
i love how vehemently tib4 is ignored. :P
As how it should be.
Don't swear
@@MarMiteost?🤔
@Mike Griffith Masaki it destroyed the C&C dna for a mobile like game style of gameplay
@Mike Griffith Masaki always has been.
Very fitting that you updated this as if in accordance with the remaster. TS will always be my favored childhood game.
I think of the engineers carrying their tool bags and find it somehow ironic that I chose to become an electrical apprentice. I like to think that this game subconsciously affected my life in a small way.
I see you're using the updated fmv cut scenes to good use
Edit: scratch that. I'm seeing full on updated visuals too. This is awesome
Most of the TD FMVs are the new remastered ones, there there's three that I think look better in the original VQAs. The Tib Sun cutscenes are also now upscaled to 2560x1440, so they should also be sharper than before. 99% of the gameplay is newly recorded, the old stuff was only 1080, and at a comparatively low bitrate
@@NoStringsPrd the work shows. It looks so much better than the last one
Also, that Easter egg regarding Renegade. I saw that
Haha, I made sure all the easter eggs in the original video are still there in this one. Easter eggs are serious business
as a forgotten mutant i can say.
I love the smell of fresh regrown Tiberium in the morning!
NOD would like to know your location
@@catmanmliolunny Shadow Teams are already en-route my brother! Could use a fresh mutant body to work on.
talking about forgottens, i really hope that the forgottens advanced technologically and socially nearly to the same point as the humans
@@cettechaineestcloture.1351
Tiberium chanches the DNA like ( orign scrin theory) once the scrin.
So advancements start first biological from mutations.
And all tech will be more and more Tiberium based.
@@obelic71 never heard a out that theory.
tell me more in detail
I'm looking forward to this. I love this guy's Command & Conquer lore videos 👍.
I find it funny that infantry crossing tiberium in tib dawn spontaneously combust
This video has potential to go semi-viral.
Any chance we may get a reboot of the Tiberium Wars series, or just a straight up Tiberium 4 "reset" game that ignored the unspeakable shame that is c&c4 and continues onwards from KW? Because that'd be awesome.
And honestly, I'd like to see a dune-like Risk tier campaign map with massive armies. That'd be awesome AF.
I have never played this game and dont plan on changing that, your video popped up on my reccomended for some reason and I thoroughly enjoyed the way you lay everything out. Keep it up bro.
You call this an essay? I call this a fictional documentary! Awesome stuff dude
I really love this channel. So many memories with this series -- especially Red Alert 2. My brother, dad, and I would set up LAN games and team up against AI players. Thank you so much for your videos! I didn't know how little information I actually knew about this series.
The last part of Mobius's explanation on tiberium is "quark rings", actually.
Gah, I did wonder what he was saying, just had to guess from how it sounded
@@NoStringsPrd Huh. Now I'm wondering, was that subtitled on the Remaster?
Makes the later proton lattice makes sense tbh
I spotted that War of the Worlds reference. Don't deny it.
Timestamp?
Ah, I remember the older video. This is nice.
8:05 - You know it's kind of funny, when I was a kid playing TibSun I thought that the Tiberian Fiends were more like oversized Tiberium mutated wild boars. Their shapes sort of looked like they had tusks and the sound they made while attacking sounded like a boar grunting and snorting to me.
I can see that, they look a little like it and they do make weird noises, there's a C&C3 mod (can't remember which) that interprets them like that. I go by the FS manual (gamepedia.cursecdn.com/cnc_gamepedia_en/3/37/Manual_Firestorm.pdf?version=57236bd9e559bb3d976b757e6373f380) which refers to them as 'Canus Tiberius', which I think is perhaps the 'Canis' genus misspelled, as in pertaining to canines. Even though they have tusks, I think it fits. The C&C3 mod The Forgotten has I think the most faithful rendition of the old Tib Sun sprites, only without the tusks, there's a bit of footage of them at 3:00 in my video on The Forgotten if you're interested
The Remaster I was looking for all along X)
Love and deeply appreciate your work, brother. Kane lives.
Dude this is the shit, well done sir! Tibirium always fascinated me and when i was 9 playing those games i never understood it but it kept killing my mass nade and rocket armies i always used lol.
Oh nice, a remaster of the old video just like the game lmao
now to watch this several dozen times
Man this franchise deserves so much more and your videos only further cement that idea to me. Such an interesting universe that I would love to explore. Just imagine a FPS in this universe! A fully fleshed out campaign and/or a battlefront like multiplayer within the tiberium wars universe would be SO great! Of course a new RTS would be ideal but the possibilities for good games is just everywhere. Tiberium: Command and Conquer could of been awesome if it was not canceled.
I love C&C, and I love this channel. The Command and Conquer fandom is an awesome one.
I still cringe so badly at the EA design of the GDI Refinery. Herpderp lets handle radioactive, self replicating crystals exposed in the air alongside our big pool of molten green, radioactive death. Tiberium pods or go home! :P
Still, love your production quality. Your material is a great source to use when showing others how epic the C&C lore really is.
The designer of the Tsjernobil powerplant also designed that refinery
@@obelic71 I mean these things are not just deployed in contaminated red zones, but GDI happily uses them in the middle of blue zones as well. Seriously, the storyline of C&C3 I don't complain much about, but whoever was in charge of designing the unit and building models at EA must have been really tripping out on something funny.
@@nodcommanderthe5823 I know it just looks cool but when you look at the scrin extractor it also spews out contamination out of the top at every dump of the harvester .
The silo's of Nod and GDI have even Chimeys spuwing a greenish black tiberium mist out!
>CnC3 vehicles
>Make sense
>Raider buggy, Scorpion, Predator, Guardian
Yeah no
@@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook To be fair, walkers never made any sense, ever, in any sci-fi. But they looked cool, and walkers are established sci-fi hardware. TS had some odd designs, some even outright ugly (looking at you, tick tank).
Looking at something like the Nod scorpion tank from C&C3, it is a downright silly design. The driver/commander sits in a big red glass cupola in the front of the tank; it is like a big bright target on a huge weakspot. The Predator is slightly more believable, but it still suffers from some odd design decisions, with the tank treads being completely exposed without any armour at all.
Thank goodness for Tiberium Essence, I have to say. :P Because I love the gameplay of C&C3.
I will never get tired of those narrative lore videos, awesome work No Strings Prd !
One of my favourites of your videos! Really enjoyed rewatching. Looking forward to the next upload.
I'm baffled by the high level of quality of yours videos. Just loving them !
To this day the "Cane lives!" speech gives me the shivers.
👍🏻😁
It’s Kane, GDI spy.
Very good video giving us a description and history of what this game and genre is about. Thanks!
I love your Command and Conquer videos and the way how you elaborate upon them.
Every one of your C&C related vid is a must see. Thanks again for all your work! :)
Gotta love the revival of your lore series!
Glad you enjoyed it! But surely it can't be a revival if it never died, the last lore video was only in August!
@@NoStringsPrd haha i mean after they remastered it. Still love the fact u don't speak of the myths that C&C4TT ever existed.
I do really love your videos about these.
Id love to watch a full documentary made by you about this and everythinf included. You have done more than your homework.
Thank you so much for watching, really glad to hear you enjoyed them!
While i'd love another C&C entry i'd be equally interested in a Red alert and a Tiberium crossover game where the Scrin due to a timeline collapse arrive on an Earth that has no Tiberium for their full invasion force to use while the various factions collide for control.
Scrin invade RA or Generals? That'd be pretty interesting
RA, Generals and T C&C crossover, yes that would be amazing
or Tiberium landing in the 90s as normal, but within the red alert 2 or 3 timeline
Well considering Kane was also in Ra 1 via the Soviets it could've been possoble afterall
Sure, why not? Everyone always messes with history in Red Alert, so it's certainly plausible.
Watched before, happy to watch it again with the updated CnC 1 gameplay.
Ah, Kanes original entrance. Wonderful stuff.
My theory on why Nod claim ownership of the term Tiberium:
They planted the idea, no matter how indirect. And the coincidence of the meteor landing near a river with the same namesake as the Emperor that Kane chose?
Kane played 5D Chess just for a name for this resource
I could watch hours and hours of this. C&C lore has always really really fascinated me. It's like an onion. As you peel it away there's just more layers underneath, while still keeping that air of mystery that always makes you want to come back for more and speculate about all the 'what ifs'.
Appreciate the feedback on my campaign by the way!
Keep up the good work, mate.
"You can't kill the messiah" that's how you end a video!
My compliments for taking the time to update your old excellent lore video with the remastered material.
I love this game I want to be more proactive in it but I'm so busy working most of the time. Thanks for the vid Stefan :) I wish EA still had the C&C3TW and KW online game servers up. Heres an idea. Let's start a petition to get it back up and running!
Fantastic work! It may be a reupload but it is still glorious!
I love all the effort you put into these videos.
Glad you still do not acknowledge the game that must not be named.
The game that DOES NOT exist
IT DOES NOT EXIST
Huh 4th game? What 4th game? EA bought Westwood? Mobile game? Your insane let’s just play some Red Alert 4!
@@dalek4463 Red Alert 4 does not exist either, dumb!
@@dalek4463 Good thing EA didn't make a 4th game. They would have screwed it up so bad
Your made my Sunday special Stephan ! Thanks so much ! Your videos are always so informative and well made !
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it!
I'm so upset they never developed the Scrin further. There was so much more world building to do, so much more Lore to flesh out on the Scrin and the true nature of Tiberium/Ichor.
Even in the Forgotten fourth? I hadn't looked into that angle yet.
sometimes less is more
Amazing!!!!
i am happy to see this beautiful aging community still going strong
Great video dude, love the original C&C, awesome presentation of the lore and story following the first game 👍
muy completo. lo mejor que ví. Te felicito
this is exactly what I needed while my pc is out of commission.
brb gonna binge your channel
tiberium is really a cool ressource for a game. like you showed, it goes in so much game elements. and the green shining :D
I posted the link to the video onto my twitter! I hope this one kicks off
I love the acting of dr. Mobius. Fancy FMV days. :D
At first youtube told me this episode was over an hour long, didn't even hesitate on watching anyways. Only slightly disappointed it wasn't that long.
Huh, sorry about that, not sure why YT said that. Maybe it was to do with the Premier
Nah, just the app and video preplay. That or my impossible dreams.
Stefan, or Stephan... Whichever... You have outdone yourself with the quality of this video, compared to your last one.
Incredible video... It felt like a history briefing inside an academy of some sort... Which makes you sound professor like, or even just military commander like, informing new recruits as to the dangers and history of Tiberium.
Loved it... They could totally make a decent c&c film one day.
Thank you so much, glady ou enjoyed it! Loved that it came across as a history briefing, cheers!
I get the feeling that Tiberium might have been an "oops" by the Scrin.
Considering how aggressive Tiberium is its unlikely to have been natural, or the world it originated from would have ended up as a chunk of pure tiberium.
It seems more likely that a race desperate to hold off their own extinction would make the mistake of a self replicating fuel source
Oh great, now i have to watch and rewatch this remastered version 5 times as well............
So when Tiberium gets harvested by NOD and GDI, are the crystals themselves being used to make their tanks and ships? Or is it sort of being sold off to others who give them the money to purchase tanks and equipment?
Oh my god
I wasn't ready for this
I really love how the game developers built in a natural explanation for the "life cycle" of Tiberium through the exposition provided by the game's cutscenes.
Through the context provided by the games, especially Tib Sun and Tib Wars, it is implied that all phenomena caused by Tiberium, be it mutation, ion storms, the transformation caused by the self-replicating proton-lattice or liquid Tiberium are integral parts of the seeding and harvesting process. Although it begs the question who or what could design something so marvelous and terrible as Tiberium... Shame Tiberium Wars never got a sequel that could have answered this question to some extend.
I like how the C&C fanbase seems to have collectively decided C&C4 is non canon and just ignores it. Would really love to see a real sequel to the third game one day.
haha i love how u completely ignored existence of CNC4! great job bro! even though as an old fan of tiberium universe i did know everything about tiberium but still did enjoy your video alot:)
SCP warning detected. Mention of SCP 3-17-2010C&C4TIB. Please refrain from referencing this scp. There is no C&C4.
Considering how Tiberium has a nasty habit of chain reacting when certain weapons are used, I wonder what would happen if someone sent one of those weapons through the Threshold tower for the Scrin to enjoy...
Thank you sooo much for this video, agian. Love it! :D
Great work!
Pregnant women should not attempt to ingest tiberium crystals. Nor should adults over 55. Or anyone at all.
Quite suspicious, Tiberium might be the salvation to humanity over COVID-19.
@Alexander Primo That drug dealing animal!
Or just anything else. If you see your pet ingesting tibirium contaminated food or something else, do it a favour and take behind the shed or to the vet to be put down.
Knowing humanity I'm fairly certain some idiots tried to smoke or snort the stuff early on
This is fantastic! Great, great work!!
I am desperately hoping that the C&C remasters continue to thrive, and that.. some day.. a brand new C&C game set in the tiberium universe might be created again.
I mean, i'll take any C&C game, but the tiberium universe has a much deeper lore than the others.
I was surprised to see that the video i watched months ago was now labeled old. So i had to watch this one and see what changed. And just wow.
Great as always my friend
Tiberium has always reminded me of The Spice.
It _is_ based on the Spice Melange, a darker take on it with the 1960s beat culture idealisation of drugs taken away.
Love the youtube subtitles function. @10:20 they actually put in "surprised pikachu".
AW YEA BOI I WAS WAITING FOR THIS
Thanks to your video I'm making a D20 campaign based of Tibirium wars
“By *2020* the earth had been completely transformed*
Sounds oddly familiar
Don't care how many times i've seen this vid. Still amazing work