Reacting To Made Up Disorders

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  • @thomasomelie
    @thomasomelie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +267

    "you wish you had more sensory issues" whoever wrote this, believe me you don't

    • @83moonchild
      @83moonchild 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know, it's fking disgraceful. Imagine somebody saying they wish they were severely disabled or had a life altering physical disease? People would be so shocked and disgusted but for some reason when it comes to any type of disorder of the brain these complete idiots can be as disrespectful as they want all just for likes and watches and more attention.
      They make it so obvious that they've never known anybody with any of these disorders or illnesses because they'd understand the truth of living with them and not this fantasy they're living.

    • @Jana-ho9mu
      @Jana-ho9mu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      It’s all fun and games unless you’re actually affected by it

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Agree. I don't understand why you would WANT to feel the panic & distress that comes with it. Having sensory issues is nothing to envy. Thank you for taking the time to comment

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Jana-ho9mu the only reason for wanting them that I can imagine is for attention?? If they experienced sensory issues, there's no way they would want more of something that heavily impacts their quality of life.

    • @Haunted_Echo
      @Haunted_Echo หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I can’t wrap my head around why anyone would want sensory issues. Even for attention, it’s not worth the distress it causes. Like when I’m in sensory overwhelm, it’s like the entire world is crashing in on me, that’s the only way I can describe the emotions I experience when it happens

  • @MonochromeFragmenDID
    @MonochromeFragmenDID 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    Oh my god…what is this. What is the internet anymore. It comes across as “we’re tired of faking disorders because we’re tired of actual sufferers telling us why it’s harmful so let’s just make up a different disorder because who can tell us why it’s harmful if it’s not real?” It’s just…ugh. I would be curious to hear why someone who does this does it, like the thought process behind it. There’s always something it seems 😭

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I can imagine some people justify faking disorders or making them up, similarly to a lot of addictions. It's disheartening when it can have harmful consequences for those who actually suffer from them.
      Thank you for sharing!

    • @cascadianrangers728
      @cascadianrangers728 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'll give you a hint they feel like that because their parents made terrible mistakes in their upbringing, like not getting an abortion

  • @graceland2
    @graceland2 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    This morning i almost cried because the light switch didn’t make the right sound and I wasn’t able to fix it. People desperately wanting to have a disorder will always baffle me

  • @Milo-hp9fw
    @Milo-hp9fw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    I used to think I was transautistic because I thought it meant that you're transgender and autistic, and both of those shape the world differently for you. I experience the world way differently than an allistic trans person, and I experience the world differently than a cis autistic person.
    And then I learned what transautistic really meant....

    • @binomialnomenclature1758
      @binomialnomenclature1758 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Did you know that there's a link between being trans and being autistic?
      A significant percentage of trans people are autistic and vice versa
      It's to the point where some medical professionals recommend being tested for autism if you're trans

    • @TSUYOMIchan
      @TSUYOMIchan หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      lol I want to reclaim that term now as another trans and autistic person. Would be more useful to us in community as a fun little shorthand.

    • @a.e.3984
      @a.e.3984 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think a term for trans and autistic, for people who feel like their gender and whole understanding of gender is strongly affected by their autism, is autigender! I don't remember if it's a nonbinary term or inclusive of trans men and women too

    • @robokill387
      @robokill387 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@binomialnomenclature1758 There's a link between being autistic and LGBT in general. Lesbians are 9 times more likely to be autistic than straight women.

    • @teetheatersanonymous
      @teetheatersanonymous 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@a.e.3984If I remember correctly, it’s a xenogender that any autistic person can use

  • @randomgirl7111
    @randomgirl7111 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    The 'purposefully making your mental health worse' feels like a real symptom to me who pretty much does it when I have extreme mood swings (due to my bipolar.) For example I think everything is already ruined and decide it's not worth taking meds and I might as well just give up and let my mental health deteriorate.

    • @BonseyJonsey
      @BonseyJonsey 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This!!! I'm not bipolar but I have BPD and I used to (and still do) struggle with taking steps to worsen my mental health. Not getting off meds but purposefully triggering my C-PTSD, self sabotaging+isolating, neglecting my physical health
      It's why I try to be empathetic towards people with "fake disorders" unless they're clearly running some grift. Mentally stable people don't do that, whether it's because of a different disorder
      Or because of their age, bc I'm not gonna get mad at an 11 year old who heard ab DID and wanted to have it for whatever reason.

    • @cascadianrangers728
      @cascadianrangers728 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is known as self-sabotage and is entirely regular and normal way for people to feel there's nothing special about this feeling and there's nothing special about you for having it

    • @TheSlipperyNUwUdle
      @TheSlipperyNUwUdle 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cascadianrangers728no one said it does. 🤡

    • @AGK1999FE
      @AGK1999FE 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Self-sabotage fr. I've gone through so many moments in my life where I stopped taking my medicine, including rn

    • @xXKandyKatXx
      @xXKandyKatXx วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ah, same, and I thought that by making myself worse mentally I was trying to fake something like these people, or something, but that makes sense

  • @StrawberryMatchaTea
    @StrawberryMatchaTea หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Just wanted to add that depression can come with symptoms such as wanting to stay in a bad mental health state because it’s too exhausting to try to be better or more comfortable and common for their lives or they’re suicidal and actively want to be dead so ofc they’re gonna self sabotage.

  • @keekermojo
    @keekermojo หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The fact that I'm being literally refused for an evaluation because Im 25, college educated, and had to TEACH myself how to speak to others in public to the point my psychiatrist says I'm "too well spoken" while people are literally begging for more sensory and communication issues is..astonishing. gfu

  • @Glorplagon
    @Glorplagon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    So you're telling me that there's people who wish they had sensory issues? I don't even know what to say. There was a time in my life that I couldn't even touch a towel. Why would anyone want that?

  • @TheLadyEx
    @TheLadyEx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I'll be real that trans-autistic thing just feels like people experiencing the symptoms of 'high-functioning' autism but are in denial about it.

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I love your murloc profile pic

    • @binomialnomenclature1758
      @binomialnomenclature1758 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That's what I was thinking
      That or people who are good at masking

    • @ViVi1159-d1
      @ViVi1159-d1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@binomialnomenclature1758yeah, a lot of the “symptoms” can be attributed to imposter syndrome from someone who doesn’t feel like their symptoms are “real” enough

    • @IvonnB
      @IvonnB หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I can't talk for everyone else but I have BPD and I sometimes wished I was autistic instead (actually my therapist in my early 20s said I don't have BPD and might be autistic LOL, but later in my 30s other therapists said it's BPD), because I felt like there is less stigma around autism than BPD and it would be easier for me to think that "I'm just like this" than facing the fact that my traumas (that I'm still dealing with) had a big factor of me having a personality disorder now. Since a lot of women are misdiagnosed with BPD when they are actually autistic I guess there are symptoms that can occur in both cases, so as you already struggle with a lot of things, you might as well think that being autistic is still better than a personality disorder. And in this way I kinda "wished" I had more autistic traits so then maybe I could be diagnosed.

    • @robokill387
      @robokill387 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@IvonnB "because I felt like there is less stigma around autism than BPD" there isn't, it's just a different type of stigma. Instead of viewing you as a monster, they view you as a perpetual child who doesn't know their own mind and needs to be controlled for your own good. Which isn't based on evidence, just old stereotypes and out-dated studies from the 70s and 80s.

  • @JellyyDogg
    @JellyyDogg หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    When I almost failed a test because a kid was chewing gum so loudly it made me want to bludgeon my head but someone said they WANTED more sensory issues (so I should be grateful and treasure my misophobia) 😝

  • @extraspicytigerroll
    @extraspicytigerroll หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    “You don’t need to be making a flag, you need to go to the hospital.” I giggled when you said this one. 😂😂😂

  • @sarahgibbons9737
    @sarahgibbons9737 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I had an argument with someone on fb today. A self diagnosed autistic telling me, a diagnosed autistic, that the DSM criteria needs to be changed. How people who dont have characteristics as children are just as autistic. How we need to get rid of the criteria that says its present in childhood 🙈 .... Dear its a neurodevelopmental disorder. Clues in the name 🫣 i just cant any more. i really cant 🙈

    • @cynanthropewoman3608
      @cynanthropewoman3608 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I got told by one of those people that I must be able to connect with autistic people because I "I identify as autistic" when I was saying that I often do not feel connection even with other people who have autism. It is not an identity, it is a label for the thing that has ruined my life! If one of those transautistic people want my autism, I would love to give it to them because I don't want it one bit!
      Self-diagnosis is stupid and you can have traits of things without having the actual problem. There is such a thing as differential diagnosis which only a professional can do and there are so many things that can overlap with and seem similar to other disorders.

    • @sarahgibbons9737
      @sarahgibbons9737 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@cynanthropewoman3608 funnily enough I also struggle to connect to people with autism. I thought I'd find community after diagnosis but I feel like for every 1 person I can get along with there are 10 I can't.
      Whilst I can see some positives to being Autistic (such as my love of learning - but not academically) and my visual attention to detail, and my "special interests" autism is most definitely a disability for me and I think people who say autism isn't a disability need to stop speaking loudly and claiming to speak for others. It's in the DSM if you aren't disabled by it you aren't autistic.
      People say "society disables me" nope when I go out and I'm overstimulated by simply the weather and nothing else it's not society it's my sensation reaction to the literal weather environment. People who are Transautistic would never understand that

    • @sarahgibbons9737
      @sarahgibbons9737 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@cynanthropewoman3608 I absolutely agree that self diagnosis is impossible I'm actually thinking of creating a whole TH-cam channel regarding this topic making counter arguments to all the uwu self diagnosis is valid crowd but I don't know if I'm up to it. I found Michelle's channel through dissociadid content coz I have d.i.d too. I've seen what's happened to the d.i.d community and see the same things in autism. The current "versions" of autism and d.i.d are so far from the reality 🙈

    • @cynanthropewoman3608
      @cynanthropewoman3608 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sarahgibbons9737 I can't connect to people easily, autistic or not. I was late diagnosed and one of the things that hurts the most is that the community that people with autism are supposed to experience was not to be for me. I finally found out as an adult the reason for my alienation and unfortunately, it is one that can never be repaired. The things that you list as positives can also occur in people without autism, same as the skill set I have. Not that I am saying that you shouldn't attribute your positives to being autistic, if that makes sense for you and helps, then go for it. =)
      Those who only want to blame society I think are either a) in denial about being disabled and cannot face up to it or b) just want a scapegoat. Society doesn't help sometimes but it is mostly the condition itself that is disabling me. I do think that there are a small minority for whom having autism is a good thing but they are EXTREMELY lucky and have likely been able to somehow end up with a life that fits with their disability. For me, autism will always be a bad thing and that doesn't mean that I think everyone should feel the same as me. It has stopped and will continue to stop me from achieving things I'd dearly love to achieve. I am level 1 and pretty independent but like you, I have sensory issues (though milder than yours) and the inability to connect to others is a fate I would not wish onto my worst enemy.
      Have you ever noticed how people who are self-diagnosed always get useful skills as their "special interest?" I have no issue with people who suspect that they have a certain illness and who are then going to get a professional opinion, as I did the same thing. I am disappointed that I have autism and not something that can go away with therapy. I just don't understand why people want to have a disorder as their identity and I think it's sad that they can't find achievements to be proud of instead of making everything that they are about a pathological label.
      The complete hypocrisy of these people is astounding too. They claim to want to support "autism rights" yet if anyone dares to say anything bad about autism or the pain that it has brought them, they attack. Neurodiversity as a concept is sound, we all have different brains. As a movement, I feel that it is extremist, cultish and damaging. All of this "autism pride" rubbish actually makes me more ashamed of admitting that I have autism. I have also been accused of hating myself and been told to unalive myself because if I don't want autism that "makes me who I am" then I must want to be dead. I think that is complete and utter nonsense!
      Another big problem I have with these people speaking over those of us who are disabled is that they reduce the chance for those of us who want treatments to be denied them. They love to act like there is a conspiracy to look for cures to remove their autism against their will when you can refuse treatment even if it is fatal for other conditions. Why would autism be deemed to be so special that the government wish to take it away when you can legit choose to die from illnesses if you are able to consent? It's like they want to be oppressed so badly and I'm sick of it! Not only that but these people can type online and communicate easily, not all severely affected people with autism have that privilege and the way they attack parents who admit to struggling with their autistic kid is absolutely disgusting.

    • @cynanthropewoman3608
      @cynanthropewoman3608 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sarahgibbons9737 It is normal and natural for people to want to form community over shared traits. I have no issues with that at all and if these self-diagnosed people wanted to bond over traits as long as they were NOT saying that they had actual conditions, then I'd not bat an eyelid. Human brains are weird and you could flick through the DSM/ICD and find traits that you have subclinical in a whole range of disorders. If you are not experiencing distress then you don't have a disorder and should be ashamed of yourself if you are saying that you do.
      I know that there are people who emphasise that they do NOT have any DID but feel that they have a "plural" or "healthy multiplicity" experience. If you are not diagnosable with an actual disorder and want to discuss subclinical quirks that are not damaging, please stick to those sorts of terms and don't go upsetting/speaking over those who are disordered and disabled! In addition, please leave communities alone that explicitly say that they don't welcome your type of experience - it's not like there is a shortage of forums and Discord servers. Gatekeeping isn't always a negative thing and can be a beneficial thing.
      I think that self-diagnosed autistic people should find their own terms and communities if they want to find people with similar traits. Broad autistic phenotype is a thing so perhaps that should be used by these people who feel that they have traits but have no impairment. Some may just be misguided kids looking for a sense of community and if they do grow out of it, they are not spreading misinformation/harming others if what they are claiming to bond over isn't a disorder in the first place.
      I'm sorry that you have to put up with having two of your disorders faked so often. I do think that more people should speak up against self-diagnosis and faking a disorder. I don't blame you if you don't feel up to it, there's no way I'd go on camera on You Tube either! I would like to hear the voices of more people who admit that autism is a disability, as well as those who are critical of the neurodiversity movement. Good luck if you do set up your own channel, you are braver than I am, that's for sure. =)

  • @cynanthropewoman3608
    @cynanthropewoman3608 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I used to make up things like "X syndrome/disorder" as a child for a bit of a laugh and to describe issues in my life. However, I never took it seriously and this was long before the days of social media.

  • @83moonchild
    @83moonchild 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Oh god, it began as a trend of ppl faking a range of conditions under the neurodivergent umbrella umbrella but always on the higher end of the scale so almost always having what woukd be medically described as severe outward symptoms eg. Tics, stutters, particular speech patterns or use of language and or style of communication such as sentence structure or selective mutism, obvious sensory difficulties or comfort seeking actions. These ppl never had the more common and highly experienced (the majority of neurodivergent people are placed somewhere between midway and less on the scale) therefore display less severe symptoms so for example, sensory difficulties, social difficulties and struggles to express themselves through conversation or tendencies to talk in a very 'to the point' way that might be interpreted as blunt, careless, ignorant and so on. A common trait is thought processes, an extremely common symptom displayed even in extremely mildly affected neurodivergent people is a very regimented thought process with answers, replies or opinions being extremely single sided, very 'black or white' thoughts, a struggle or inability to understand or possess a 'grey' area of thought, to debate in thought alone on a topic can be impossible as the processes involved to enable weighing up pros and cons for example would be a simple process (regardless of the level of intelligence of the individual) who would then simply pick a side usually based very much in logic over emotional input, this opinion would then be very difficult to change without some form of major adaptation being made to the original pros and cons first such as a new compelling piece of evidence or an alternative explanation being made,.the more based in proof, logic and ease of being able to take this information and label it right/wrong good/bad positive/negative, enjoys/dislikes etc. They may not display or be as aware of others emotions or observe facial expressions and social ques in varying degrees.
    None of these online fakers ever had the most commonly diagnosed degrees of their various and ever evolving lists of disorders.
    I find it so so ironic too that the majority of people who are genuinely diagnosed with these disorders at the higher end of the scale, as they all claim would find even the thought of making constant videos of themselves having to look into a camera, talk with the energy, emotion filled, ease of language and structure these ppl show and basically allow the world into their thoughts, opinions etc which would practically feel like an invasion of privacy to many of the people who genuinely do experience what these people fake as an absolute nightmare in every aspect!
    Then we evolved from the neurodivergent fad into the mental illness fad and again it has only been the fun, attention grabbing illnesses that are faked. Nobody fakes clinical depression because its boring, the bipolar frauds only film the manic episodes, d.i.d. brings endless possibilities of characters, dress up, make up, and when ppl start to get bored they can just create new alters.
    Both groups of fakers are disgraceful, immature, attention whores and extremely offensive to genuinely diagnosed people and their friends & families.
    But, i am actually genuinely baffled at this new fad of just inventing mental illnesses. I mean wtf why?! They already fake real ones and embellish the hell out of them adding more illnesses for more quirks so whats the point in this, why create your own tailor made illness when youre already mixing and matching your real illnesses to create your own extra special eben more attention grabbing illnesses than ever! Does nobody ever say how much time and testing , observation and studying it takes just for the initial exploration of an illness in a clinical setting it takes? Has anybody asked where they received their PhD from and how many peer reviews are available on their hypothesised new exciting illness there are and if its generally accepted in the field or is it just real.because they said so because of attention?!
    All of this idiocy pisses me right off. I just cant even imagine what the next pile of crap.fad is gonna be with these ppl.

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thanks again for the support, it means a lot.
      I feel your frustration and disbelief at what's been going on. It's mind-boggling how some people would go to such lengths to fake or exaggerate conditions, especially those that impact so many individuals on a daily basis. And you're right, the fact that fakers are cherry-picking the "fun" or attention-grabbing aspects of certain illnesses. I can't imagine how insulting it is to people with that mental illness. It's like a mixture of roleplaying & a game for attention. It undermines the seriousness of mental illness and the research and expertise that goes into understanding and diagnosing them. Possibly calling out this kind of behavior can push for a more responsible online community.
      Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.

    • @Haunted_Echo
      @Haunted_Echo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Holy hell! Can I please take you to my previous university so that you can explain autism to them? That was so on point!

    • @83moonchild
      @83moonchild หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Haunted_Echo lol omg thank you! My daughter has autism,.sister too so learnt alot lol ❤️

    • @Haunted_Echo
      @Haunted_Echo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@83moonchild I’m diagnosed with autism and kept trying to describe it to my previous university cuz I’m a literal thinker. There’s no beating around the bush, there’s no hidden agenda, if I say something or ask a question, take it as it’s worded, not what you think I mean, it’s black and white. The amount of things I’d say and the faculty would give it some underlying motive that would seem obscure to me (still seems obscure to me).
      Then when I tried to explain it, I’d get told “autism is a spectrum” like it’s a spectrum to a degree. It’s mild, moderate or severe, different traits fitting under the same umbrellas of impairment.
      They tried to tell me that having difficulties communicating and black & white thinking are “not autism”. So to see someone describe my experience, my way of thinking that isn’t in my diagnostic assessment documents, bloody hell, I wish you could lecture them regarding autism.
      We are in the process of trying to sue the university for discrimination cuz of how bad it was and how often I was told my traits weren’t autism (and even having the stuff I use to sensory regulate, confiscated and never returned).

    • @carmillaaaa
      @carmillaaaa หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have frequent verbal and physical tics that other people almost never notice, so I wouldn’t say tics are inherently considered “severe” either. I think the majority of tics “milder” on average and can easily be mistaken for voluntary by an onlooker. Like a small simple movement, throat clearing humming or repeating words. Imo most of the people faking tics are not actually faking tics, they’re just doing weird stuff and calling it tics.

  • @floof7680
    @floof7680 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    One thing that annoys me is people who act like RSD is recognised and go on about how its a “core symptom of adhd” and “severe reaction to rejection and mood swings”… being unique to adhd

    • @carmillaaaa
      @carmillaaaa หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Omg yes, I find that really frustrating. Emotional dysregulation is a real and significant symptom of ADHD, but that is not the same as mood swings or RSD. Difficulty regulating all emotions as a whole (not just very specific negative ones) occurs because the development of the area of the brain that regulates emotions is impacted in ADHD. It’s also something we’re supposed to work on, not something we’re doomed to never ever have any control over.

  • @insertnamewithmaybepunhere8235
    @insertnamewithmaybepunhere8235 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    With the last one and the whole "making yourself worse mentally" thats actually an unhealthy coping skill coming from a desire for control. If someone for example feels terrible the entire time and suddenly things are going well, they might purposely go back to a bad state, because its their normal, its their control, its predicable. If things are suddenly going well it must mean it will go horrible soon, better not get too used to things going well
    Source: i (used to) do this and my therapist told me this

    • @livb5437
      @livb5437 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Was going to say, this one is something I've experienced as a person with diagnosed BPD and MDD. Like, someone faking a mental illness, or making up an entirely fictional one, probably wants to seem worse than they are for validation reasons, yes, but a pervasive desire to get worse is definitely a real thing in actual mental illnesses. It's like that one quote, 'There's a certain clinical satisfaction in seeing just how bad things can get'.

  • @carmillaaaa
    @carmillaaaa หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Ok the “short-lived psychosis” one is a little funny, because it just sounds like regular psychosis 😂

    • @wriggleby
      @wriggleby หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Literally 😂

  • @amberr6707
    @amberr6707 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Okay, I have struggled with maladaptive daydreaming for years. Because I'm also bipolar II with psychotic features, it has gotten to the point where it can cause some pretty intense delusions that are very dangerous. I HATE when people act like it's awesome to maladaptive daydream. It's so harmful to people who actually struggle with it.

    • @nescio9710
      @nescio9710 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Right. I also have bipolar (unspecified) and maladaptive daydreaming. It’s not just “daydreaming” lol i’ve wasted SO much potential bc i genuinely couldn’t help/control daydreaming in class and pacing back and forth compulsively for my entirely life. I do it a ton more when manic too. It’s not “just daydreaming” nor is it “cute and fantastical.” Ppl throw around terms too much

    • @Thesilentdemise
      @Thesilentdemise 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have MDD with psychotic features and while it's a little better with my antipsychotics I still struggle a lot with maladaptive daydreaming. I just can't stop it from happening and I've gotten in trouble for not paying attention or not doing what I'm supposed to. It also influences my delusions and episodes in disturbing ways. It sucks and anyone who thinks it doesn't has no idea what they're talking about.

    • @AGK1999FE
      @AGK1999FE 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah, I would describe mine as immersive daydreaming. So, it's as often (every day almost all day), detailed and intense as maladaptive, but I don't find it as negative. Sometimes it has been, but it's mostly positive and life saving. I would never want to live without it, I don't think I could, but people with more maladaptive daydreaming actually want to stop because it's harmful to them most of the time. So I wish you all the best

    • @Thesilentdemise
      @Thesilentdemise 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @AGK1999FE When I was younger I didn't want it to go away because without it I would be stuck in the hell that was my life. I couldn't handle the reality I was living in and it was my only way out. It was still extremely harmful, though back then I just didn't care. The problem now is that I don't need to escape the real world anymore but it happens anyway. Maladaptive daydreaming started as a coping method for me, it just quickly got out of control and started ruining my life.

    • @amberr6707
      @amberr6707 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Thesilentdemise I feel like it starts as a coping mechanism for most people. From my understanding, it's more common in people with PTSD than any other group (Though I could be wrong). That's why it makes me so angry that people minimize it.
      The same thing happened with me that I didn't want it to go away, even as an adult. Because I was so unhappy with my life that I still needed that escape. But once it started to heavily feed into my delusions, I knew that it had to stop. It's something that I still struggle with. I recently found a medication that helps, but I'm still mourning the loss of it. People don't realize how big of a piece of you that it becomes.

  • @yoloswagbigswagmoments
    @yoloswagbigswagmoments หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I had an extreme meltdown over a piece of cheese that was a bad texture literally last night and the meltdown was so bad I lost proper vision temporarily but yeah I wish I had more sensory issues 4 SUUUURRREEE

  • @aprildean1274
    @aprildean1274 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I have sensory issues that cause me so much rage that I literally get a headache and get tired 😭 people really do crave some type of problem or obstacle to overcome they have to make this stuff up

  • @sheebitz
    @sheebitz หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As someone who is nonbinary and also autistic, if this was me a few years ago I would’ve taken the term “transautistic” just as like being both trans and autistic. I hate that it’s become the same way as like trans-age or how transracial has been ruined because of people who want to be a certain race (transracial was originally a term to describe biracial adoptees, which im also a part of :/ )
    Believe me, you do not want the issues we have. I’m learning to love myself for me but for a long time and still at times, being overstimulated, not understanding social skills, being seen as other than for a lot of reasons and then also dealing with dysphoria on top of that, none of that is fun. I wish people would realize being a part of a minority or having disabilities isn’t just being quirky or fun or rainbows, it’s all genuine things that affect and can ruin our lives

  • @katascendant
    @katascendant 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    gonna throw a pretty big trigger warning here cause i’ll be talking about the worst time in my life in terms of mental health.
    i have experienced true maladaptive daydreaming. it’s not something silly and fun like “oh i make these stories in my head and sometimes don’t pay attention.” for at least 6 months (shaky on the time both due to the mental state i was in and because it was several years ago) my days almost exclusively consisted of waking up, sitting up in bed, and staring at the wall while retreating into my thoughts and imagining myself as someone else living a different life. the most i would even do is maybe move to a chair or couch in a different room, or grab some food once every day or two, but even then i would rarely speak to anyone beyond one word mumbles because my top priority was getting back to my thoughts. i remember genuinely wishing that i could just stay asleep forever rather than having to wake up because it would be easier to stay in a dream that way. i wasn’t just thinking up scenarios for fun, or out of boredom, i was escaping into the shoes of a made up person because the alternative, being myself, meant constant thoughts of sh and s*****e. it’s incredibly harmful for these posts to refer to normal daydreaming and distractedness as maladaptive, and i hope the people behind these posts never have to experience the real thing

  • @Bloomy_forest
    @Bloomy_forest 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    When i heard trans autistic, my own transgender and autistic ass took it as that (a person who happens to both be trans and autistic).
    I literally went "wait that's not fake- ohhh, never mind, that's quite concerning."

  • @DramaticAngel
    @DramaticAngel 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What is it with people thinking autism is quirky?
    As an autistic person, while I do accept myself as autistic now, let me tell you this: you don't want to be autistic.
    I have to deal with daily difficulty to connect with others, I have to deal with a lot of sensory issues and feeling overwhelmed just going out of the house (even when i'm doing something fun), I have hard time dealing with my emotions having meltdowns easily. Seriously you don't want that! This is neither cool nor quirky! You find way to cope but it will never be fully easy.

  • @faye7743
    @faye7743 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I mean some people with disorders do want to make it worse, because they feel that theyre invalid or smth without it.
    Most of the time i dont feel that way myself but i know there are some who do, and with bpd, sometimes the euphoria with a favourite person makes me want to get worse so the feelings stronger (and then i lose said person and i wish i hadnt because no amount of euphoria is enough for the soul crushing agony to be worth it)

  • @BonseyJonsey
    @BonseyJonsey 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Trans autistic just sounds like someone whose so used to masking that they feel like their experience isnt valid or they their symptoms aren't always intense enough for them to be actually autistic. Obviously that wasn't the intention of the person/people who peddle this "disorder" but, its just interesting to me.
    I know a lot of people with a lot of different disorders/experiences where they feel they're not "____ enough".
    Like, its just imposter syndrome
    I know that I feel that with like that about a lot of things, including my own autism especially since I dont have or want an "official" diagnosis. To be clear, I see a therapist and have seen multiple psychiatrists who've confirmed I am autistic, I just don't feel the need to seek out a formal diagnosis. Also, both my father and older brother are autistic.

  • @AM-hr5mw
    @AM-hr5mw 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Old video but transautistic has me livid. I work with autistic children who need high support and cannot function in a traditional school environment. Most of my kids will need to live in a full term care facility. Those that can even communicate verbally have meltdowns thst have gotten them kicked ojr of schools. These kids aren't living tiktok autism that's all fun and games. These kids have real autism and it takes a toll on them and their parents. You don't want this

  • @83moonchild
    @83moonchild 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great vid again, really interesting i had no idea this was now a thing too. I can't imagine what these ppl are going to do next i mean if theyre now making up their own mental illnesses because they need even more attention, what could possibly be the next step?!
    I know a while back you briefly covered 'quiet bpd' i found this extremely useful as id had a bod diagnosis but felt my symptoms didnt quite fit, after seeing your video i was able to find out a little bit more about it and my Dr then explained after all of the years ive been diagnosed that this is what i have but where i live they dont generally have a specific term for it only internalised.
    If anybody else would be interested (maybe poll it??) and of course if it is something you'd want to re-cover only more of a deep dive kinda thing, it would be great to see as it's not really known about as much as it should be plus from what ive found online that isnt made by fakers i found your video even though it was made as a basic explanation,.to be the most interesting and informative.
    I know im being cheeky to ask especially as youve covered it and your content is always varied and original but i can still try 😉
    Thank you again for more great quality content! ❤

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, thanks for the kind words & support!
      It's crazy to think about what might come next, especially with the way things evolve online. I'm really glad the quiet bpd video was helpful on your journey!! I'm not a professional, but I can see how disorder symptoms including bpd can vary so much from person to person. I can for sure make another video about it!
      Thanks again for your support and for sharing your thoughts! ❤

  • @chaimagnolia997
    @chaimagnolia997 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some of the medically unrecognized disorders I've seen around genuinely strike me as fetish content. I strongly doubt that's the reason *most* people are interested in them, especially since a lot of those people are under 18. But a few of the entries I've seen for specifically physical MUDs have some hallmarks of being disease fetish bait.

  • @ihavenocreativeideasforach5530
    @ihavenocreativeideasforach5530 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tbh part of me thought these were fictional; not people trying to apply them to themselves or change the DSM. I spend a lot of time in world building circles, writers invent plagues and shit all the time (think the blood plague in “the 100”, etc.), and tbh, some of these were decently creative to be used in fiction lmao
    But then I saw “make a flag if you want”???? Excuse me??

  • @GuardedFan
    @GuardedFan หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm autsitic. Whoever those people are, yapping on about wanting to act like they have autism... No, you don't. You don't want to be judged by everyone and not knowing why. You don't want to be seen as dramatic for disliking textures or sounds no one else notices - let alone those with higher symptoms on the spectrum compared to where I am on the spectrum. You don't want to be be disabled. They just love wanting to be different in a "Quirky" way. Makes life harder for people with already stigmatised disorders when there are people like this online.

  • @treblebat
    @treblebat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    7:11 SO FUN FACT when i got rediagnosed bc of the state requirments the psychologist legit pulled out a "pocket dsm-5" and went through the asd diagnosis like a checklist.
    According to him i don't have asd bc i shook his hand and looked him in the eye.

  • @annikala
    @annikala หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At first I was like “the trans autistic thing just seems like masking” and then you kept reading the list and oh god nope it’s just straight wild

  • @yogsothoth8389
    @yogsothoth8389 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    This makes me think of the way people were making up genders on tumblr in 2016.

    • @vanillauwu1844
      @vanillauwu1844 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You mean xenogenders? Those are genders that neurotypical people use because they have a hard time expressing their personality and finding out their gender and sexuality

  • @BitByter
    @BitByter 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bestie you don't have fate syndrome you have MULTIPLE medical conditions
    how does one even come up with this stuff

  • @broelle4716
    @broelle4716 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    why they don’t just write fanfic about this stuff is beyond me

  • @hollyccam
    @hollyccam 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not to validate this... community (?)
    But I have certainly intentionally made my depression worse before by means of just straight up triggering myself. I'll listen to a song that I remember hearing during a failed S attempt, watch a movie with a lot of SA, stuff like that.
    Obviously in this scenario I am already depressed to some extent, so I'm not "giving myself depression", like these people seem to be doing.
    Also if you're reading this and it seems familiar, get some help please ❤

  • @hello.queerdo
    @hello.queerdo 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    God this era of young teens and adults thinking they have these disorders is just so wild! I think back on whej I was 14 or 15 and was struggling massively with mental health issues, if I was surrounded by people online claiming to be this or that, I probably would have felt that way too! Not because I would have wanted it to be that way, but because I had no support with my mental health and I wouldn't have known better 15 years ago
    Honestly sad

  • @Catmesp
    @Catmesp 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Also as a mom of a 6 year old autistic child who’s sensory issues are so bad he cannot eat solid foods, has been to countless different doctors appointments, and is struggling to do the most mundane things we all take for granted daily. No you do not wish you had more sensory issues. Be happy that you don’t struggle in life. To pick up a hobby to make yourself more interesting and less bored. Be grateful for your health!

  • @Catmesp
    @Catmesp 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The funniest thing to me is that the people who wish they had a disorder or a “cool” diagnosis to shape a whole personality around because they don’t take the time to actually create their own; actually have some type of mental disorder. It’s that you’re wishing you were unwell. So congrats you guys, you did it! No mentally sane person wishes they had life long issues that they cannot control impact their daily life.

  • @URnightmares162
    @URnightmares162 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Off topic a bit, but I could *never* imagine how I would be like neurotypical. Autism and Adhd mite as well made who I am, like my hyperfixations I spent so much time into (my art skills, cats, video games, anime, comics, entertainment media, etc.) Like yeah I did struggle, especially with the shitty house hold I've have been in within my whole childhood (gave me Cptsd), which sadly something I couldn't control even though that part of life could've been better if some adult actually could do something. I came to the exception that I can't live up to neurotypical standards (whatever wtf those standards are), and that I can't ever live a normal life. Which meh, I'm happy with my hyperfixations.

  • @krewetkakreci4330
    @krewetkakreci4330 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ah yes, maladptive daydreaming is so cool, like that time when in pandemic i experienced a whole break-up with a person i made up, when i realised that spending every moment im awake in a city thousands of kilometres away with a friend group that doesnr exist may, in fact, not be healthy

  • @Underworldloveshades
    @Underworldloveshades 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Trust me, an autistic person, you do NOT want sensory issues

  • @abbslife
    @abbslife หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone diagnosed with OCD relationship ocd (rocd) as well as other parts of ocd are very real however are part of ocd itself and in my opinion aren’t a disorder by itself. Harmful stereotypes of ocd led to my later diagnosis and years of undiagnosed mental health struggles with not the right help

  • @jasperanda2769
    @jasperanda2769 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sometimes I just don't understand people.

  • @blynn8837
    @blynn8837 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I know some Dr/therapist/licensed counselors who have said you can not be diagnosed with BPD if you are already diagnosed with DID. So I'm assuming some also say it the other way around. I'm not saying they are right. Just wondering if this is where that one particular combined thing came from. I ❤ your videos!

    • @sarahgibbons9737
      @sarahgibbons9737 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's interesting. My theory is everyone who is DID could also be diagnosed with Autism or BPD. I've never met a DID person who doesn't fit into either category. I'm diagnosed with all 3, but bpd was a mistake. In my case due to my autism I mirror people and during the time I was diagnosed I was spending a lot of time with someone who has b.p.d. plus generally the things that got me diagnosed (arguing with the psychiatrist and having meltdowns was actually easily explained by autism) I got the bpd diagnosis first. Every psychiatrist I've seen since (I think 5 of them) has disagreed. Unfortunately the Dr who diagnosed me with bpd was known as a misogynist who diagnosed anyone who wouldn't bow down to him as b.p.d. (this was over 20 years ago to be fair)

    • @Diffilicious_Rex
      @Diffilicious_Rex 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In my experience, I was given the diagnosis of BPD, and given treatment for over 10yrs for that (and queried schizophrenia later) before my psychologist began noticing signs and querying a greater dissociative disorder.
      It can take an average of 7yrs for a correct diagnosis of DID, and then years and years of therapy to be able to have a decent quality of life.
      Just my 2 cents... I'm sure others will have different experiences/opinions.

  • @navyblue9355
    @navyblue9355 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MHDD just sounds like a coping mechanism for un/poorly treated mental illness in general lol. you don't have access to real help so you fixate on learning and end up wallowing in misery with other people who also don't have access to real help. i did it a ton in highschool growing up with untreated mental illness, but now i have access to therapy, medication, and academic accommodations so I don't do it anymore.

  • @skyscar1057
    @skyscar1057 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a diagnosed autistic person, seeing people want autism signs/traits/"symptoms" is insanely wild to me. I have intense social anxiety, and I come home from school exhausted because of having to mask and because of the sensory challenges of sitting in a classroom of more than like 12 people, and that's not even mentioning passing periods and breaks (although I luckily have recieved accommodations for breaks). I've had breakdowns about not understanding verbal instructions or generally getting confused. I've had plently of people make fun of me/outright harrass me for stimming, the way I talk, my mannerisms etc. (e.g. I can almost never stand/sit completely still) I cannot regulate my time/planning properly, special interests genuinely being the only thing I can think about for hours sometimes. Being suddenly taken away from those kinds of things can make me so upset that I almost feel nauseous.
    I guess I could see how, if you're not autistic, and you end up on a side of the internet where most other people are autistic, that it might feel like you're the odd one out. The normalisation of autism and the increase of open discussions surrounding the disorder might have given some (and I want to emphasize SOME), and especially younger, allistic/neurotypical people the wrong idea. When you're like 13 and all your favourite online creators/friends are autistic, and you do not fully understand the seriousness of what it even fully entails, only that you think it's this quirky fun thing that lets you into some special club, it becomes easy to want put that label on yourself when you relate to these creators/friends. Most people experience some kind of autistic trait(s) (mainly social difficulties, which can in a lot of cases be explained as simply a side effect of puberty), so I think that a good portion of these people genuinely do believe, to some extent, that they are autistic. Then realising that you do not actually meet the criteria for autism might make these people feel even more left out, althus the creation of the "transautistic" label.

  • @d1s3nch4t3d
    @d1s3nch4t3d 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:16 on why would someone make their mental health worse, I have experienced it with an ed and sh and for me and other people I've met its for the feeling of being valid as in, if my sh isn't bad enough, its not valid or if someone else's is worse mine isn't really sh

  • @snaaail
    @snaaail 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    HDD stands for Hard Disk Drive for those wondering

  • @jessicahannah2522
    @jessicahannah2522 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You need to fix the reflection of the ring light on your eyeglasses. It's insanely distracting lol

    • @carmillaaaa
      @carmillaaaa หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How do you position a rim light to properly light your face, while also not reflecting in your glasses? Genuine question out of curiosity, not a snark, to be clear.

  • @teetheatersanonymous
    @teetheatersanonymous 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “Transautistic” sounds like something 4chan would come up with to make fun of both groups ngl 💀

  • @maybemay1403
    @maybemay1403 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "you wish you had more sensory issues" bro what. I do have that imposter feeling of "youre not autistic enough" but believe you me you do not want more sensory issues.
    All i think sonetimes is "I wish my parents gave me the smart autism and not the 'maths is rlly hard:)' and 'i can't understand what youre telling me to do without direct instruction' autism."

  • @WellThinkOfATitle
    @WellThinkOfATitle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As someone who was diagnosed with autism several years ago (I say "was diagnosed with autism" and not "has autism" because as i learn more and more about it i'm getting extremely suspicious that i absolutely do not have it and that they somehow managed to diagnose me with the wrong thing) it (the diagnosis, people being told i had autism by my parents and school) genuinely made my life so much worse how the hell would anyone WANT to have autism

  • @Holley455
    @Holley455 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a non binary person with autism, I’m a different kind of “trans autistic”

  • @JaakkoKola
    @JaakkoKola 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The "your brain isnt fully developed until your 25" thing is pseudoscience btw. Your brain is always developing.

  • @SparkleLuna77
    @SparkleLuna77 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly when you initially said trans autistic I was trying to figure out where that was going because my daughter is a trans woman and she’s autistic so I was initially very confused.
    I’m also autistic and although I wouldn’t change that because it makes me who I am it’s certainly not made my life easier so if I wasn’t autistic I wouldn’t seek it out!

  • @Glaiket
    @Glaiket 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Morgellons is an amazing rabbit hole.

  • @chiaralucia2411
    @chiaralucia2411 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude, im autistic, diagnosed at 15, but said i was also very smart so it is very very "light" i guess and ever since finding out about fakers ive been wondering if im subconsciously faking, i mean most people (not doctors) say that i couldnt possibly be autistic but idk, it psichs me out. I feel like an impostor, what if im taking up space of people who really have it?

    • @applespotty2232
      @applespotty2232 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      people are ignorant. i was first told by a therapist that i had autism at 15, then was formally diagnosed at 20. i’ve gotten doubts from many people, but i know my own brain. and i know that the moment my first therapist suggested it, every question i’d ever had was answered. everything fell into place. my life made sense. other people don’t need to believe it, i’m living it.
      if you can get past the sketchy history of the term, referring to it as “asperger’s” tends to get allistic people to shut up about it.

    • @chiaralucia2411
      @chiaralucia2411 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@applespotty2232 thank you for the advice, I'll try to not doubt myself :)

  • @lenassdiary
    @lenassdiary 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    reminds me of when people made up genders/sexualities in like 2016 like literal “(insert object) sexual” and mean it with their whole chest. Well im guapsexual frfer

  • @TheAbigailDee
    @TheAbigailDee 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Praying that some of these are just really bad 4chan opps or something.

  • @cyberpilate
    @cyberpilate หลายเดือนก่อน

    There's a time and a place for everything and it's called middle school. Everyone should imagine themselves as the center of the world and special! You just need to grow out of it or develop in a more healthy fashion.

  • @marumaru2105
    @marumaru2105 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wanna say that I appreciate you acknowledging things like unrecognized disorders existing or whenever the DID fakers are mimicking actual DID symptoms.
    When watching videos like these, it can be easy for people to start to think these disorders don’t exist at all

  • @thetickedoffpianoplayer4193
    @thetickedoffpianoplayer4193 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This trans-autistic stuff just sounds like andy're probably just high masking autistic, but just haven't been diagnosed. I can't imigine why you would want rh sensory issues, though. Those things suck.

    • @TheGenderlessAutistic
      @TheGenderlessAutistic หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's possible if it is high masking autism, they don't want sensory issues but already have them but because they're so used to hiding them they feel like they can't call them sensory issues because they're not "disabling" enough, so they want the to be worse so they feel like they can actually call them sensory issues, they may just want to use the term without guilt not actually want them. I dunno if that makes sense.

  • @Eepyechoes
    @Eepyechoes หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this whole vid a black screen or is that just me

    • @wriggleby
      @wriggleby หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just you lol did you fix it?

  • @Justhnan
    @Justhnan 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i day dream all the time . every day and at school i didn.t know there is a name for it

  • @TSUYOMIchan
    @TSUYOMIchan หลายเดือนก่อน

    While it’s an interesting area of research to better understand and label mental health disorders, that needs to be based on good research practice and consultation with experts and those with lived experience on a broad scale. What’s happening with these made-up disorders is not only upsetting, it could delay people getting treatment for serious conditions, especially when those conditions may be hard to accept and leave people grasping at straws and falling for less credible sources.

  • @KandiKyssis
    @KandiKyssis 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you're referencing the study done on peoples brains when you say it isnt developed until 25. That study isnt very good, as they didnt analyze brains of people older than 25. Brains continue to develop all throughout a persons life

  • @lizh4244
    @lizh4244 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oh my god

  • @moonpizzalol
    @moonpizzalol 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    no need all of these covered

    • @moonpizzalol
      @moonpizzalol 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When did i type this

  • @stoicstrawberries
    @stoicstrawberries หลายเดือนก่อน

    why are you afraid of saying autistic when referring to autism ? instead you say neurodivergent ? 😅

    • @wriggleby
      @wriggleby หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ND covers more than just autism! It definitely includes ADHD/ADD and maybe OCD and stuff like dyslexia I think? I'm not an expert though lol

  • @elena9606
    @elena9606 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why is it bad for people to create specific terms to describe how they're feeling / thinking?
    --> some pros:
    - helps people feel cool and not alone
    - makes conversations downstream easier (lots of information can be captured in one word instead of a paragraph describing how u feel)
    - from a stats perspective: makes it easier to count / observe the people who identify with a given set of symptoms / feelings
    --> some cons:
    - like any label, ppl can build weird attachments to it
    - the existence of a label can legitimise bad behaviour (e.g wanting sensory issues)

    • @amberr6707
      @amberr6707 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For a lot of the things that they are describing, diagnosis already exist. Many mental illnesses are comorbid with each other. Having multiple disorders does not mean you have to create a separate disorder. Not to mention that it's SO harmful to people who actually have disorders that may have symptoms similar to the ones being described. It adds stigma to already stigmatized disorders.
      I have bipolar II with psychotic features. I also struggle severely with maladaptive daydreaming. This combination has caused severe delusions that are extremely dangerous. People already don't take maladaptive daydreaming seriously, do you really think that calling it + psychosis a fantasy based disorder is not harmful?
      If you don't feel comfortable identifying with an existing disorder, that's totally fine. But you don't get to make up disorders that make a mockery of already existing and stigmatized disorder.

    • @kristyw89
      @kristyw89 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think it stems from the fact that everyone wants to be a special unique individual. Myself individually, I have ADHD, Major Depression, Fibromyalgia, and Generalized Anxiety, but I'm not going to pretend I have some incredible rare, unique, one of a kind syndrome called ADHMDGAD with chronic pain, because that's silly, I have a set ofreal, common health conditions that many people have and the combination of them doesn't create a new disease for me personally to create an identity around.

    • @elena9606
      @elena9606 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kristyw89 kristy and amber above touch on a few arguments, so I've tried separating and responding to them below:
      *Argument 1 - Creating silly-sounding terms increases stigma* :
      --> If the fear is that 'attention seekers' will be grouped in with people who have 'real mental illnesses' - in my experience, the kinds of people who stigmatise the mentally ill because of 'silly terms' are not going to be any nicer if silly terms disappeared. I feel like 'silly-sounding mental illnesses' are just an easy target. Then, other mentally ill people get hit as collateral damage, and they get mad at the people who created the silly-sounding terms.
      --> If the fear is that terms like 'fantasy-based disorder' make a mockery out of your mental illness, I can see how that would be offensive. Personally, I think when you take a step back, conditions like psychosis can be considered to be a 'fantasy based disorder'. Fantasy can be defined as "creating especially unrealistic or improbable mental images in response to psychological need". Fantasising doesn't just mean 'daydreaming' or 'wishing'. But if someone told me that regardless of definition, the term 'fantasy based disorder' makes them uncomfortable, then I would refrain from using it.
      *Argument 2 - People want to be special and unique, but creating special terms can legitimise bad behaviour *: Agree. This is the criticism that I think is most defensible.
      *Argument 3 - People shouldn't create or adopt terms that aren't backed by science *: I've gone through the diagnosis process and worked in healthcare and biology settings, and I think we create too much distance between terms that are 'real' and terms that are 'fake'. In my view, the line is blurred.
      --> When you go to the GP, they don't scan your brain and tell you what's wrong with you. They mainly rely on YOUR subjective account, or the behaviour you show during your appointment(s), and try to assign you the closest label even if it doesn't explain all of your symptoms. In other words, psychiatry often operates with vibes anyway.
      --> Labels for mental illness historically appeared FIRST bc people pattern-recognised behaviours, gave them names, and LATER we retroactively did GWAS, brain scans, etc to figure out what was actually going on under the hood. In other words, all mental illness terms were 'made up' and newfangled at some point. At what point did those silly terms become accepted? When enough people used them.
      --> Self-diagnosis and self-labelling can be valuable for self-improvement (but sometimes, it can be harmful - see Argument 2).
      *Argument 4 - We need a standardised language in medicine for stats and stuff, don't dilute existing terms by claiming them for no reason*: Fair. I agree with this. I think people can go ahead and make their own terms, but we ALSO need a standardised language to describe their symptom profile, independent of their personal terms.

  • @user-td1un2nq4c
    @user-td1un2nq4c หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t like this kind of content. Scrutinizing whether people are “actually” mentally ill has only ever prevented people from getting help. Usually because they’re anxious over faking it. I think educating people on medically recognized disorders is very important but we should stop spotlighting people we assume are faking whatever they are faking. You’re drawing attention away from people who need it. You seem very kind and reasonable but my two cents