This makes me want to take vocal lessons again because I have no idea what I'm doing on my own but the vocal control on display here is extremely impressive.
You can feel the difference between head voice and falsetto though, falsetto uses the full laryngeal tilt whereas head voice is like, more connected and less tilted. It’s why you can’t yodel in and out of head voice but you can with falsetto
For the past few months I've been experimenting with this register (flageolet, whistle, whichever term is called). I first tried on an inhale which is fairly easy (I'm quite sure it's flageolet because the inhale's quality is strikingly similar to the normal flageolet, plus sometimes I got that vibrato). When I do it on an exhale, I got quite some throat tension. Actually I'm not sure about this tightness, seems that some say it's acceptable since we're in the uppermost part of the range, though operatic professionals seem to have a fairly relaxed larynx. Of course, I have no idea what's happening inside their throat. I've read literature that describes in order to discover this register, use a tiny -oo- shaped mouth with minimal volume. This works with inhale but is much more difficult with exhale for me (a little bit easier in the morning, after a night's rest). Usually, it seems that I'm raising my tongue and larynx, despite sorta reaching those notes.
So with whistle tones your throat actually does close to create this sound, so you have to be very careful it is difficult to be fully relaxed doing whistle voice, I am talking above C6. Flageolet however is much easier to be very relaxed in fact, to me I feel I am even more relaxed in flageolet than falsetto, and I am already very relaxed in falsetto.
Edit: did I mess up the terminologies... @@lemandoeslogic2261 For me it's the opposite. My whistle notes are very unstable and limited (G5 to F6), but are effortless. (Though some people can get to the 7th octave, don't know what's missing). I think what I'm doing is whistle notes, because they are REALLY disconnected from my falsetto. I know flageolet sounds a bit different from falsetto, but my whistle notes are like really different. Meanwhile my flageolet is prolly still non-existent. When I try doing flageolet, I try imagining that my vocal cords are extremely compressed (seems easier to squeak those notes out), but often I squeezed my throat instead.
@@chengliklik whistle notes are at most party tricks but try using inhale to get used to the higher notes and then exhale them in exhale I have from about e6 (very breathy) to a d7 and inhaled I have up to a d8 (usually quieter) and its all about experimentation. It could also be a mental block just try to relax urself into it.
@@erenjaeger9348 Thank you for the advice! 4 months later nothing has changed, I can only poorly navigate (from as low as I can) to F6 or even G6 on a good day with an inhale. So far through my experimentation I have only flipped into some other coordination and to a comfortable D7. I have the recordings, but the sporadic technique is no longer there haha. Whether it's flageolet or whistle, I do agree that I have to get used to the feeling in my throat when I inhale, then try, without unnecessary tightening, to replicate these higher notes on an exhale. Usually it's difficult to experiment after morning, when bad techniques start to come out. But I won't give up!
@@chengliklik it seems like u have been improving a music piece that I took inspiration from emotions by Ariana grande and I found that simply sighing until eventually, u get noise works and u try every day until u get used to it another technique is that during mixed belts if u stop vibrating ur vocal cords and push air u will make a whistle tone there I very little pressure and it will be very very airy at first but what ur describing is probably flageolet can u transition to head voice from this g6 like in a glissando? since flageolet is a connected register while u actually cannot transition from head voice into whistle there is always a break. even though I am exploring my own flageolet (I have not found it) the only thing i can say is it not airy btw if u do find ur flageolet I would appreciate the feedback
Apenas hoy empiezo con el flageolet,me he dado cuenta de q mi nota mas alta es g5 con voz de cabeza,pero cuando relajo mi garganta demasiado llego hasta un a5 o si5,intentare esta tecnica para lograr cantar como contratenor
Hi tnx for your videos you are great I have a question but I can find the answer I can hit notes like c5 or even d5 in my mix voice but tambor of my voice when I go above g4 gets to bright and it's not a pleasant tone so I can sing breathy in my lower notes like e4 or f4 and it sounds pleasant can you make a video of this problem or give my a guidance of the problem?
This is common and happened to me when deviling the mix nasality is good at first! The trick is blending in a darker tone to the high notes to give them a more pleasant tone and more character. Watch my full mix video I talk about this a lot in that one!
When I try to thin out the falsetto I tend to get a drop in pitch instead (unless I apply a lot of tension to almost everything I could possibly think about tensing, which is obviously not what we want), any quick tip? What should I be thinking about doing with my tongue?
@@lemandoeslogic2261 It was out for 8 months. What fixed it was quiet flageolet. I don't think it is safe to push that, and found that a way to check, is if you are doing quiet flageolet below C5 and are slowly lowering your larynx, you will find that you are being louder than it seemed. The resonance is blocked by the backward tilted larynx, which for some reason voice teachers tend say moves forward when you squeak. Mine definitely moves backward and up. Another interesting fact, is that it is possible to blow out your flageolet register without affecting falsetto. You can blow out your falsetto without affecting chest, but when you lose falsetto, flageolet often goes with it. When you lose flageolet, you will almost certainly have no chest voice range. This is what led me to believe that they are different registers, with flageolet more closely tied to chest voice than falsetto. I believe falsetto is not modal, but flageolet is. I think of it as a smaller version of chest. To that end, the higher I can take flageolet, the higher my chest voice will go.
Is it same vocal co-ordination are we getting with flageolet and whistle. i can't understand difference. I also watched your whistle vs flageolet. Is low pitched whistle around F5 same as flageolet? please help me flageolet and whistle sounds same to me.
No it is similar but there is a flip, not quite as substantial as falsetto to flageolet but I can feel that it is a different voicing and using a thinner part of my vocal cord. I will have to do another video of both but down around F5 flageolet would be much more resonant….i would be using a blended flageolet and falsetto mix at F5 to sustain for a long time
Explanation was great but I would not advice people to just “experiment” that high in their range. They should get a strict training regiment cause they could blow up their voices for good if not produced healthily. New York Vocal Coach has a video on this and it got me to my flageolet in 24 hours with just the 1 exercise he gave at the end. 😂
I hear you, as long as there is no discomfort experimenting with every part of your range is beneficial so that’s why I stress that as well as more focused exercises
no whistle register is much thinner than flageolet and falsetto is much fuller than what I was demonstrating and you cannot have a well controlled vibrato very high in the falsetto. This is flageolet.
@@kanapkitozo3169 lol I forgot I made this comment. I’ve changed a lot in 2 months. It’s not all about vocal range and high notes lol. It’s about quality of your usable range
@@kanapkitozo3169Not everyone wants to be a professional artiste. Managing to achieve a 'me too' level with someone you admire is a great goal in itself, for it's own sake.
This is somewhat common and when flageolet is blended is can be quite resonant but your true mixed voice will definitely have much more power and a different tone
yes whistle and flageolet are very similar flageolet is just quite a bit thicker and the vocal folds don't have to close as much. With time you can experiment with placement and thicken it out as well.
Yes doing that range full falsetto rarely sounds good at all in my opinion. A blended falsetto/flageolet or straight flageolet will get you much more control in this range and sound much better.
@@adah6759 oh in that case flagoeolet probably cab=nt really help u since it requires very good cord closure and it would be extremely difficult to reach 6th ocatve notes in falsetto but I do not think she uses falsetto in 6th octave notes since in her live version of touch it she doesn't have the airiness because I believe that her high falsetto are either low whistles or edited
@@erenjaeger9348 Very similar to falsetto but much thinner and my throat slightly closes but you want to try to remain open. It actually is easier for me to get into it with a closed vowel like EE or Ooso try that. I could also try and make more videos on it.
This makes me want to take vocal lessons again because I have no idea what I'm doing on my own but the vocal control on display here is extremely impressive.
Thank you! I do give lessons!
Been trying this for years, I've seen this before and couldn't get anywhere near. Now I've come back and I'm starting to get it! Thanks!
@@robynrox that’s awesome!
From a fellow voice teacher , this was beautifully explained 👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you!!
You can feel the difference between head voice and falsetto though, falsetto uses the full laryngeal tilt whereas head voice is like, more connected and less tilted. It’s why you can’t yodel in and out of head voice but you can with falsetto
Terminology can be confusing for anything, if you are in “head voice” and can’t yodel I would consider that part of the mixed voice
Thanks, easy to understand. Im struggle to hit c6 till G6, i love this video
For the past few months I've been experimenting with this register (flageolet, whistle, whichever term is called). I first tried on an inhale which is fairly easy (I'm quite sure it's flageolet because the inhale's quality is strikingly similar to the normal flageolet, plus sometimes I got that vibrato).
When I do it on an exhale, I got quite some throat tension. Actually I'm not sure about this tightness, seems that some say it's acceptable since we're in the uppermost part of the range, though operatic professionals seem to have a fairly relaxed larynx. Of course, I have no idea what's happening inside their throat.
I've read literature that describes in order to discover this register, use a tiny -oo- shaped mouth with minimal volume. This works with inhale but is much more difficult with exhale for me (a little bit easier in the morning, after a night's rest). Usually, it seems that I'm raising my tongue and larynx, despite sorta reaching those notes.
So with whistle tones your throat actually does close to create this sound, so you have to be very careful it is difficult to be fully relaxed doing whistle voice, I am talking above C6. Flageolet however is much easier to be very relaxed in fact, to me I feel I am even more relaxed in flageolet than falsetto, and I am already very relaxed in falsetto.
Edit: did I mess up the terminologies...
@@lemandoeslogic2261 For me it's the opposite. My whistle notes are very unstable and limited (G5 to F6), but are effortless. (Though some people can get to the 7th octave, don't know what's missing). I think what I'm doing is whistle notes, because they are REALLY disconnected from my falsetto. I know flageolet sounds a bit different from falsetto, but my whistle notes are like really different.
Meanwhile my flageolet is prolly still non-existent. When I try doing flageolet, I try imagining that my vocal cords are extremely compressed (seems easier to squeak those notes out), but often I squeezed my throat instead.
@@chengliklik whistle notes are at most party tricks but try using inhale to get used to the higher notes and then exhale them in exhale I have from about e6 (very breathy) to a d7 and inhaled I have up to a d8 (usually quieter) and its all about experimentation. It could also be a mental block just try to relax urself into it.
@@erenjaeger9348 Thank you for the advice! 4 months later nothing has changed, I can only poorly navigate (from as low as I can) to F6 or even G6 on a good day with an inhale. So far through my experimentation I have only flipped into some other coordination and to a comfortable D7. I have the recordings, but the sporadic technique is no longer there haha.
Whether it's flageolet or whistle, I do agree that I have to get used to the feeling in my throat when I inhale, then try, without unnecessary tightening, to replicate these higher notes on an exhale.
Usually it's difficult to experiment after morning, when bad techniques start to come out.
But I won't give up!
@@chengliklik it seems like u have been improving a music piece that I took inspiration from emotions by Ariana grande and I found that simply sighing until eventually, u get noise works and u try every day until u get used to it another technique is that during mixed belts if u stop vibrating ur vocal cords and push air u will make a whistle tone there I very little pressure and it will be very very airy at first but what ur describing is probably flageolet can u transition to head voice from this g6 like in a glissando? since flageolet is a connected register while u actually cannot transition from head voice into whistle there is always a break. even though I am exploring my own flageolet (I have not found it) the only thing i can say is it not airy btw if u do find ur flageolet I would appreciate the feedback
Apenas hoy empiezo con el flageolet,me he dado cuenta de q mi nota mas alta es g5 con voz de cabeza,pero cuando relajo mi garganta demasiado llego hasta un a5 o si5,intentare esta tecnica para lograr cantar como contratenor
Hi tnx for your videos you are great
I have a question but I can find the answer I can hit notes like c5 or even d5 in my mix voice but tambor of my voice when I go above g4 gets to bright and it's not a pleasant tone so I can sing breathy in my lower notes like e4 or f4 and it sounds pleasant can you make a video of this problem or give my a guidance of the problem?
This is common and happened to me when deviling the mix nasality is good at first! The trick is blending in a darker tone to the high notes to give them a more pleasant tone and more character. Watch my full mix video I talk about this a lot in that one!
Thank you for your time
When I try to thin out the falsetto I tend to get a drop in pitch instead (unless I apply a lot of tension to almost everything I could possibly think about tensing, which is obviously not what we want), any quick tip? What should I be thinking about doing with my tongue?
I pushed my flageolet too loud, and now my mixed voice is creaky and flippy. Do you know how to fix that?
I would just rest your voice for a day or two if you pushed hard but I highly doubt you could have seriously damaged anything
@@lemandoeslogic2261 It was out for 8 months. What fixed it was quiet flageolet. I don't think it is safe to push that, and found that a way to check, is if you are doing quiet flageolet below C5 and are slowly lowering your larynx, you will find that you are being louder than it seemed. The resonance is blocked by the backward tilted larynx, which for some reason voice teachers tend say moves forward when you squeak. Mine definitely moves backward and up.
Another interesting fact, is that it is possible to blow out your flageolet register without affecting falsetto. You can blow out your falsetto without affecting chest, but when you lose falsetto, flageolet often goes with it. When you lose flageolet, you will almost certainly have no chest voice range. This is what led me to believe that they are different registers, with flageolet more closely tied to chest voice than falsetto. I believe falsetto is not modal, but flageolet is. I think of it as a smaller version of chest. To that end, the higher I can take flageolet, the higher my chest voice will go.
Is it same vocal co-ordination are we getting with flageolet and whistle. i can't understand difference. I also watched your whistle vs flageolet. Is low pitched whistle around F5 same as flageolet? please help me flageolet and whistle sounds same to me.
No it is similar but there is a flip, not quite as substantial as falsetto to flageolet but I can feel that it is a different voicing and using a thinner part of my vocal cord. I will have to do another video of both but down around F5 flageolet would be much more resonant….i would be using a blended flageolet and falsetto mix at F5 to sustain for a long time
I would like to learn this but have no squeak....
Explanation was great but I would not advice people to just “experiment” that high in their range. They should get a strict training regiment cause they could blow up their voices for good if not produced healthily. New York Vocal Coach has a video on this and it got me to my flageolet in 24 hours with just the 1 exercise he gave at the end. 😂
I hear you, as long as there is no discomfort experimenting with every part of your range is beneficial so that’s why I stress that as well as more focused exercises
Men what you did in c6 is Wiesel register, and below is head voice with an effect.
no whistle register is much thinner than flageolet and falsetto is much fuller than what I was demonstrating and you cannot have a well controlled vibrato very high in the falsetto. This is flageolet.
Thank you 😭 I want to sing like Dimash lol
Good luck with that. 😂 he’s something else entirely
For what? If you want to be an artist, create your own style, singing is not only about high notes.
@@kanapkitozo3169 lol I forgot I made this comment. I’ve changed a lot in 2 months. It’s not all about vocal range and high notes lol. It’s about quality of your usable range
Dimash aparte de guapo canta excelente
@@kanapkitozo3169Not everyone wants to be a professional artiste. Managing to achieve a 'me too' level with someone you admire is a great goal in itself, for it's own sake.
I definitely subscribed
i thought it was my mixed voice but i was developing flageolet this whole time
This is somewhat common and when flageolet is blended is can be quite resonant but your true mixed voice will definitely have much more power and a different tone
Amazing
Holy shit it works i sustained a C#6 in what must be flageolet because it wasnt whistle
yes whistle and flageolet are very similar flageolet is just quite a bit thicker and the vocal folds don't have to close as much. With time you can experiment with placement and thicken it out as well.
How can we contact you for questions. Cant don’t your ig or email
@lemanmusicofficial or christianlemanbrown@Gmail.com
Can everyone sing flageolet?
In my opinion yes, it just needs to be developed and figured out!
@@lemandoeslogic2261 thank you I've just discovered my flageolet with your video, it's still ugly I'm working on it 💪
@@vampiriclion1176 that's awesome keep at it!
Im hoping this can fill my F#5-C6 gap in my range
Yes doing that range full falsetto rarely sounds good at all in my opinion. A blended falsetto/flageolet or straight flageolet will get you much more control in this range and sound much better.
very cool tx..i think i use it when i talk to my cat..because i can get way up there and thin
Haha you definitely could be!
How can sing like Ariana grande ?
It depends what register of her voice you are referring to she uses a lot of whistle voice for her very high notes.
her falsetto ?
@@adah6759 u mean head voice?
@@erenjaeger9348 she always use falsetto I rarely hear her use her headvoice
@@adah6759 oh in that case flagoeolet probably cab=nt really help u since it requires very good cord closure and it would be extremely difficult to reach 6th ocatve notes in falsetto but I do not think she uses falsetto in 6th octave notes since in her live version of touch it she doesn't have the airiness because I believe that her high falsetto are either low whistles or edited
HOLY CRAP OMG OMG OMG IM DOING IT BROOOOOO
Can the flagolet be louder and more potent?
louder than what? It can be quite loud yes especially when you can blend it a bit to be more resonant
@@lemandoeslogic2261 like kinda like opera and can u mix it with head voice?
Yes you can have vibrato and blend it with falsetto its very simiilar to blending chest with mask in the mixed voice
@@lemandoeslogic2261 sorry for the questions but I have one last one can u describe how it feels?
@@erenjaeger9348 Very similar to falsetto but much thinner and my throat slightly closes but you want to try to remain open. It actually is easier for me to get into it with a closed vowel like EE or Ooso try that. I could also try and make more videos on it.
Your voice reminds me MrBeast
why would I want to do this?
Well many reasons if you want to sing opera or really high notes easily
Thanks im tryna sound like james brown 😅
😂😂😂🦟🦟🦟🦟👂👂👂 so basically try to be a mosquito
why is he so damn hot
YOU SHOULD NOT BE TEACHING ANYONE SINGING LESSONS!!
And who are you lol
@@lemandoeslogic2261 Someone who knows how to sing.
@@billybaldwin8918 😬
You should not be making inane comments anymore. Ever!
@@InfoArtistJK Did you watch this video?