Funny how there are lots of coaches out there charging a lot of money and they don’t mention anything like that. Your explanation is so much clearer. Nice video
Hi Leman, there are a million voice videos on TH-cam, but yours is the best. I have a question that I'm sure a lot of other watchers of your video probably do to. To me it seems that, with much proper practice, we will be able to do your voice exercises within the range of our voices. Once we can do that fairly well, can you give us a melody line to try to sing. I presume singing vowel and consonant words will be much more of a challenge. Being new to vocal lessons, I thought that would give us a good measuring stick to determine how well we are coming along.
No problem man! If you run into issues or need some other exercises or clarification let me know! Again, we don't need to be pretty at first, once we get the notes and coordination we can shape the tone we want!
Another day of practice and I was discovering that my chest voice can go even MORe thinner, blending, cutting off excess chest resonance that I wouldn't think would cut off lol which made me continue staying more loose, in a way
14:44 MAJESTIC lol this is exactly what i'm sometimes searching for in my own voice also this transition is more dark on its low note, and brighter on the higher note. i like the brighter note more, i think it's kinda perfect yk. so i wonder can someone sing high and low notes with that same brightness? i'm sure you can but can you do that bright sound on a high note without preparing your vocal posture by singing low dark notes beforehand and just singing high notes like that right off the bat? im sorry if my explanations are not so clear, i'm working on it. sometimes i'd come back and edit my comments tho
Thanks for the video man. I just figured it out. It's what you focus on. For example I can focus on the middle voice, then I can blend it with my head and then the pharyngal "mask" voice to it. Or I can focus on my chest then middle voice and vibrato will automatically happen. It's the same with both registers. It took me a year to figure this out. It was so complicated but I got it into muscle memory due to hours of exercises. A lot of people focus on notes, but it's not notes that will make you sound good. It's how you blend your resonance.
Thanks, my experience is that you can focus on the vowel to make it sound as close as natural voice, this way it might be able to help you find the right position easier.
Thanks a lot, you allowed me to unlock my mixed voice, I was really looking for it. Are you going to do a vid about mixed voice from C#5 to G5? And one about saturation/distortion ?
Good lesson.a video dedicated on how to do falsetto with power would be awesome. My chest voice over powers everthing when i try to sing high. Its a struggle to cut loose from chest.thanks.
This is some fun stuff, thank you for sharing. I can get a mixed sound I think, that goes quite loud without trying to overproject, especially doing the fry version (very familiar with fry as a heavy vocalist) but I can't seem to do what you did where you then turn it into a more pleasant, powerful sounding note. I have a strong head/chest voice but how do I "dial in" more oomph when I'm in my mix register?
It depends on what range you are talking about when we get to A4 on it is very hard to get much chest up here, but if you warm up very well and experiment with being super nasal in the mask and trying to darken the tone and getting a hint of chest you can do this which will darken the tone making it sound fuller, also adding fry always gives more presence to the note it just depends what you are looking to do.
I started singing when I was 19 years old. Anyone can develop their voice and become a strong vocalist it just takes dedication and time. Don’t give up keep going!
Hey, I have just found your channel and found it very useful because you show here many things which I did not see elsewhere. I am trying to develop my mixed voice for range A4 - C5. Sometimes it goes pretty good and the result is acceptable. But most of time I absolutely cannot get any sound of my vocal folds. It is just "frozen" and hoarse. It sounds like I am sick but I am not. Do you have any experiences with this type of trouble?
The only trouble I have had anywhere near that is only being able to hit notes with vocal fry and not clean when my voice wasn't quite developed enough to hit certain notes clean.
@LemanDoesLogic , m8 thank you for the content. I can do this easily, but I noticed that you used a lot of volume and a lof tension as well. I dont think this is healthy at all.. Now I'm trying to use less and less tension after I reach the notes this way. Other this that I noticed is that many singer do this voice on "Eh" vowel for example Cryin for Stenve Tyler, "the way the i got KIIISSEDD" it's impossible for me.. Any tips on these?
As long as there is no discomfort or real fatigue this technique is fine. I can sing like this for many hours so for me I don’t feel tension. As far as the Eh vowel this should be much easier than singing EE or OO high in the mix do you struggle with those vowels?
For some reason I can't do it anymore, I just stopped getting a thin resonance with a balanced airflow even though i elevate soft palate put resonance in mask and try to optimize thr voice like earlier
hey, i'm kinda really new into singing, and i want to thank you for this content, its been amazing for me, and i need to ask this question, how to make a sweet transition in chest voice to mix voice, like Luther Vandross and The Weeknd?
A singer like the Weekend is actually singing in his mixed voice about 90 percent of the time, he utilizes almost no chest resonance when he sings except when he sings lower and even then it is not very chesty, he keeps a forward, light tone throughout his entire range. His technique is similar to what I am demonstrating in this video I am just exaggerating the nasality of it to show placement. To get smooth going up higher in this part of our voice we need a strong upper register and we start by gaining this strength by first getting our falsetto stronger, thicker, and higher. The falsetto is the stepping stone to a strong mixed voice.
@@lemandoeslogic2261thx for the comment, and how can i identify if my falsetto is strong? i know that a private coach is certainly the right person to tell me, but i can't afford one right now :( love from Brazil!!
@@mateusadilsonm.5772 you should be able to have close to as much resonance and volume with falsetto compared to your full or chest voice. If it’s airy and breathy it’s weak
I can do the exercises and the sound is very similar to how yours is. What is the next step after this to get a chestier sound without actually pulling chest
I'm revisiting to say that that honky sound has changed my life. I now have this powerful high head voice that was sometimes there but not always. and it's that honk that gave me the access and muscle memory. it's been 3 weeks . thanks so much . and I can add grit wirh no weight or strain.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 ok I'm back. I have been able to achieve this on a daily basis . HOWEVER. Lol. I played my first gig for a while yesterday and unfortunately after about 6 songs I somehow completely lost the ability to connect this and it was just a messy fry. Wtf happened lol. I tried to find the sound on the way home and slowly started getting it again. And today it's back there strong again. Whyyyyyyyyyyy lol . My guess is after singing with the normal coordination, I confused my brain or muscles to get this mix happening . Please any thoughts . Thanks so much anyways
@@stebolian To me that sounds like its possible you were pushing your voice a bit and it was from fatigue and maybe not used to singing in this voicing for long periods of time. I would say just continue with consistency...similar things have happened to me in the past where I wasn't quite strong enough in the mix yet or I wasn't using technique as well as I should have I fall into a fry as well which can develop into a crutch to hit hight notes for sure.
This helped a lot. There is one thing that I feel like I'm always fighting with, and it's that my voice tends to want to slip into a fry scream and I can't stop it sometimes. Any tips?
this happened to me when I was trying to sing higher and higher. One thing you need to check is how strong your falsetto is, when you are entering a fry it simply means you cannot coordinate your vocal chords to fully stretch to the position they need to hit hit the note close. Try hitting this note in falsetto with a nice relaxed stretch go the chords. Then go a half step or whole step below this note and practice hitting this note clean in mix over and over until it is easy. Then, try very quickly and without pushing to jump quickly touch that note you are trying to go far by going up to it with a 3 note scale up to it just to touch the note with the same voicing and placement. Also, what needs to be considered is the range and note you are going for. Depending on where your voice is at in its development you may need to lean even more into the mask if you are getting too high to keep a chesty full mix.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 Thanks for the tips! I'll try that out some more. Immediately I notice that when flipping from falsetto note to mixed and then back, I get this break that starts to sound a bit like yodeling. Not a smooth transition so I guess I have to just practice and iron that out. Edit: I also tend to transition around G4. I also notice that I have to use a lot more breath pressure to not get the note to crack in mixed when compared to falsetto, which ironically I think is contributing to the nonsmooth transition? Sounds like my culprit may be underdeveloped falsetto maybe?
@@apothecarry7544 this could be a mixture of things but yes the falsetto should be very strong and resonant and not airy. I used to have to lean quite a bit in the mask and have a thinner tone around G4 but with a stronger falsetto and bring the chest up I can now sustain notes G4 and up with a lot of chest resonance. It’s a combination of strengthening these sections
When doing octave leaps but with chest-->falsetto-->chest, i can keep my soft palate engaged normally on the rise, but when descending, it tries to return to its original position thus opening up the nasal passage which is wrong for this technique, right? should the soft palate indeed be always elevated and closing up the nose when practicing this?
I found something different which I can use to sometimes hit notes up to Eb5 but I'm not sure if that is a mixed voice. It feels very similar to chest voice and the effort it takes is more than say an E3 in chest voice but way less than belting in my chest. BUT I have two major problems with this voice: 1) On the lower mixed notes (G4-Bb4) it has a rasp or crackling to it which I can't control (especially with closed vowels). It doesn't hurt at all which is why I think the sound is produced by my false cords but I don't know how to eliminate that nasty sound. 2) Although my mixed voice is entirely connected to my chest voice, when I try transitioning into my head voice I have a similar voice break/crack as when I'm going straight from chest to head voice. Can someone help me to get over these issues?
This sounds like a very specific issue that won't be able to be fixed texting back and forth. If you can only hit certain notes with vocal fry it just means your vocal cords haven't gained the strength or muscle memory to get into this voicing clean which happened to me for quite awhile too. I would have to hear this to really figure out what is going on and analyze it!
@@lemandoeslogic2261 So should I just practise to get more relaxed and build the muscle memory over time? I should also add that I'm 15 years old and although I'm past my major voice break, my voice is probably still developing and maybe that's why my vocal cords are just stressed sometimes without an obvious reason.
@@scheibenkleister861 To me it sounds like you most likely need to strengthen your upper register so your falsetto and mask resonance. I would get to at least F5 in a strong falsetto and practice your mask resonance going up over your break. It is hard to pinpoint the exact issue without giving you a personal lesson/analysis.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 I don't think my high register is the problem. I can go up to an A6 in my Head Voice. What do you exactly mean by Mask Resonance? Does this mean mixed voice or just any register with much twang? Btw. thank you for answering my very specific question.
There could be many steps, it is hard for me to tell without knowing the current strength of the voice but I always say, developing a strong falsetto is always a good first step in strengthening the mixed voice.
Is it true that tensing under chin muscles doesn't allow to the cords to mix? I have tried so many tips and there is always sth tensing under the chin,even a little
I have never heard this, I would say no you could still mix with tension there but it certainly won't help. It takes awhile to have very little in the neck and face when getting up in these tricky areas, the only thing that should have tension or pressure is the diaphragm and abdominal area.
@@amirrjk6934 So your diaphragm is what we fill with air by inhaling through our mouth. When we use support to start singing higher or with more power you should feel your abs engaging to create air pressure. This should honestly feel similar to pooping or flexing your abs
Thanks! To be honest it depends what range you are singing in, if you are belting with power you definitely need to use your abs as support almost as if you are pooping in a way lol. A lot of issues with support also can stem from fear of hitting notes or not actually breathing when you sing, which I did when I began. If you are afraid of what you are singing you usually hold your breath to some extent...there should be a good amount of movement and energy below your stomach when taking breaths and singing each phrase. If that is not the case try panting loudly like a big dog, as funny as it sounds this is a good example of how much effort we should be using to support.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 thanks for this good information bro buh it alws have been confusing for me either my support is poor or my compression is bad and it’s even hard to articulate the notes which I could hit in scales and exercises buh not in songs
@@MOTIVATIONINSIDES It is hard for me to tell how to help as easily just by comments. I would suggest try going on a run pr exercising before singing just as an experiment. My breathing is much deeper and I always feel more ready to sing after exercise.
Why is it that after singing, after about 10 min of rest and silence, there is a moment when i swallow and i get a feeling that my epiglottis (if i'm not wrong) that i use to block airways is suddenly especially wet? i have a feeling that it's normal and will decrease after time because i'm just generally not used to use my voice with right techniques. it happened just now when i was doing a masky falsetto as an experiment, without much support but with loud resonance. was doing it for 7 mins in different pitches
Today I couldn't do it. Maybe because I kinda burnt out from other things I do. I noticed that when I try to go higher today, even though i try to maintain the mask, it goes away and to the back of my head. I'm not done for today though. It's just that sometimes I'm a bit not so flexible in my thinking if the day was still and it's easier to write down thoughts while forming them
That's what I want. That clean bite. And it sounds easy. Is it?? Maybe it's a positioning thing, was there a time when you couldn't do this and all of a sudden bammm??? Please advise
Once you develop this section it is pretty easy, but it took me at least a couple years when I was starting from no training. Once my falsetto was strong and my chest was strong I began developing a new middle voicing but it was very week, at that point it pretty much was constant experimentation until I had enough strength and the placement clicked then I could really take this mix much higher. If you have moire questions let me know!
@@lemandoeslogic2261 cannot believe I did the honky thing and did this. Wtf . I could do it all along but ddnt realise how to approach it. It like my falsetto flips into this . Wow man. Thanks so much for the honky method. I've tried this for years using people like Chris leipe and rock your best vocals. And kind of got a tight feeling that wasn't free. I will now practise this so much
P.s the high pitch I'm getting is ridiculous and scares me a bit . Wow, I experimented with Prince songs to see of thets what he does. I think it is and dimash kind of
@@stebolian That's great man! We have to not worry about sounding ridiculous to figuring out these mechanisms and then we can tweak the tone to make it what we want so keep going I am glad it helped!
@@stebolian With Prince, certain songs like "Kiss" he is singing completely in falsetto but leaning into the mask slightly to give brightness, sort of like the Bee Gee's but less nasal and he is a bit more breathy with his tone.
I can’t sing along with your video efficiently because I can’t even get near C5 or A5 like you can. Is this video for more advanced singers in the higher registers?
Yes this is definitely more advanced for when the mixed voice has been developed at least to some extent. Check out my falsetto and sift mix video to start strengthening your upper register
Do you elevate soft palate at all? Is it what you mean at 10:11 to lean more on the blocked passage or.. just lean on the nose to let airflow through it instead of mouth? I think earlier I was hitting high notes with nose closed from inside and it still sounded nasal And also when I was elevating soft palate I felt more resonance in my head
Always lifting the soft palate, but placing the air and resonance in the mask and nose to have a thinner tone instead of trying to be full and dark in chest, this takes more time and power
Hello Leman,my voice type is baritone (C2-E4- pure Head voice is G5) Can i sound more like tenor by using balanced or chesty mix? Cause eberytime i try to mix more chesty, it obviously falls into pure head Maybe you have some tip for deeper voice like me?
I don't really believe in labeling voices. I was told I was a baritone and now I would be considered a tenor 1 or high tenor from developing my voice. I would have to hear you but off the bat I would strengthen your falsetto and then your chest to get a bit higher. I have videos on these as well
these are just terms that can be confusing. You can lean your falsetto into the mask to sound like the Bee Gee's or you can get so high into your mixed voice that it is only in the mask and head.
A "Heady Mix" could mean a lot of different things so it depends if you are referring to a falsetto mix or a more full sounding "medium" mix. My video on Falsetto mix might help clear this up for you!
by the way do you notice that if you drink milk then vocal fry just becomes less saturated for a while? maybe it's just me. and also if i eat an orange or a tangerine then my vocal fry becomes more defined, also for a bit
I know this one good singer StealthRG (aka Chipz) that can sound pretty similar to this mixed voice. Also his speaking voice reminds me of yours (and vice versa)
If a voice gets so loud that I think I might lose it, is it normal when stretching vocal chords or should I try to just optimize what I'm doing a bit? I'm not tense at all except a certain level of the diaphragm use, and I just think maybe the voice dries out. I never felt my voice becomes dry until I found out a better resonance in my voice by doing these excersises.
There should never be discomfort and if there is stop. However, it takes time to figure out how much air pressure to use throughout the different ranges of your voice and sometimes when we apply too much pressure we can start to get itchy throats or feel discomfort, just take a break and come back if you feel this. I definitely had some discomfort as I was finding my voice, expanding my range, and figuring out how to use my diaphragm and the amount of pressure but I would just stop if it became uncomfortable or hoarse in any way.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 Thank you so much. I sometimes notice that there should be different air pressure in dif ranges indeed, but I'm glad you're pointing it out because I will remember it more now. Ok! So interesting
@@quwane Generally, we use less air pressure in our lower range but more air flow to hit notes way down in our lower chest but more air pressure as we go up in range but this can easily be confused as much strain/unnecessary tension. We do need to increase air pressure in the diaphragm as we go up in range while remaining relaxed in our throat and face. We also begin to thin the voice and use a thinner part of our vocal cords as we go up in range.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 OOOOH I got it. So, the higher the notes, the more air pressure but the airflow should stay the same as on low notes. That point to remain with the same posture and not tense up when going up I really experienced too. Anyhow even if my conclusion is wrong I will try it all out by myself as well. Normally I don't even speak much which sucks but that's the reason why I couldn't figure out the right balance between air pressure and airflow to find good resonance. Usually my voice fries out a lot when just talking because I don't use much airflow. And you can't say I have a deep voice when talking at all but I can go very deep without increasing airflow but vice versa increasing air pressure and adding vocal fry with compression
I don’t find being nasal or bright ever helped me, it eventually kicked my voice into some weird nasality even in speaking tone and was kinda baked into my tone . To me what helped was the SLS approaches and just relaxing into it not pushing too hard in volume or tone. I fee the voice naturally goes where it needs to song as it’s taken in a relaxed and slower pace. I was also taking lessons from an opera teacher so I guess I blended the two approaches but her approach was nasality and volume and frankly it sucked and ruined my tone. I’m assuming the muscles in my body just got used to synchronizing in a specific way and something just stuck with me. But yeah I could go above c 5 without nasal so idk, I frankly think it’s not necessary
Different methods work for different people. I think the goal should always to be to do whatever you want with your voice and shape your tone however you like as well whether it be to darken or brighten it. It never hurts to have more tools.
@lemandoeslogic2261 Yeah that’s true. What is it about nasality that helps with higher notes being achieved ? I think focusing on the tone was where I was set but feeling it out slowly and building confidence in my own sensation through lip trills helped . Back with my teacher , I was mentality in a state of nasality for reach but I did that for months as I increased my range and the nasal tone was thus hard to move away from. But what is it about nasality that helps the highest notes supposedly? I have to continue the video maybe you mention it
@@heythere6983 for most people that try to utilize the mask first when strengthening the mask it is helpful because it is much easier to get through your natural vocal break with a very bright, forward, and thin sound as you go higher as opposed to trying to bring a full chesty sound higher and higher and having your voice crack every time. This totally depends on how it is approached and practiced as well. But for me and how I teach, I strengthen the falsetto first to allow muscle memory in the vocal cords comfortably moving into higher positions and hitting higher notes without tension in time. Then when you start using a masky nasally tone you are slowly incorporating a thicker part of your vocal cord into the sound, thickening the tone and resonance. Finally, in time when this is strong a darker, fuller tone with chest resonance can be added and blended in.
@lemandoeslogic2261 Ok okay that sounds like it makes a lot of sense and is well rounded. Pretty sure I was just taught “be more nasal” and that was it lol. Nasal plus loud was my recipe , yours makes a lot more sense
@@heythere6983 the ugly nasal tone described in this video is called "twang". it's not necessarily nasal as if you're resonating all the sound in the nasal cavity but what happens when you make that bratty childlike or honky sound is you narrow down your aryepiglottic sphincter which is the tube-like space above the vocal folds to produce a bright piercing sound without needing to push. just like when u pinch and narrow the opening tube of the garden hose, the reduction in space causes the water to accelerate as it passes through the narrowed opening, increasing the pressure and force with which it exits the hose. Same thing with twang, as it allows the voice to cut through a mix more easily and reach the back of a large room or a noisy environment without the singer having to increase volume excessively and it helps with getting into your mixed voice as the brightness helps you transition smoothly across your registers. You also mentioned that you take lessons with an opera coach. well, in classical singing they don't really use twang but instead of relying on twang for projection and clarity, classical singers focus on optimising the resonance within their vocal tract. They achieve this by techniques that expand the pharyngeal space which is what most people refer to as the "open throat" technique. Contemporary singers focus on forward placed sound while in classical or choral singing, they focus more on the back resonance thats why often their sound has less nasal resonance is because they tend to lift the soft palate more to create more space at the back of the throat.
If you are utilizing your mask, you are probably mixing to some extent however, getting over your natural vocal break in mix is another mountain to climb. The term "mixed voice" can be interpreted and defined many different ways, and many people have different opinions. I would be happy to help more if I can!
Hey bro, I've been working on "When I was your man" by Bruno Mars lately. Really just to challenge myself with the notes and I'm starting to explore parts of my voice that I have wanted for a long time, but never really had any clear direction on how to develop. Parts such as when is he using his mix vs. how does he seem to pull his chest so high up. It would be sick if you could do a video based on something like that and disect what is happening with the voice and how to achieve those results.
I have a video on full mix which focuses more on a chesty mix. Bruno is singing in mix almost 100 percent of the time in all on his choruses. He can bring up a chesty mix fairly high but in his higher notes above A4 it’s mostly a masky mix
@@cryptomaniac6926 Yes in time that is the goal. This medium mix I am pretty much demonstrating as much mask resonance as you can get but I'd be happy to explain more.
Jesus your voice goes high when you did the honky slide! Mine goes nowhere near that even in falsetto or mix. The chords just close and stop vibrating way before where you get.
The point isn’t to use the tone for how you would sing the point is to get into mix and strengthen that muscle memory and then build the desirable tone after
@@billybaldwin8918 So what would you do differently ? (Obviously things take time so to expect to be able to hit all the notes that he does is unrealistic) So besides telling people that disclaimer, what would make this better ?
Okay I gave the video a shot and it actually worked, like I managed to get the same mix you had in this video and got to sing/squeek whatever u wanna call it, very high notes. The thing is: how can you make them pretty or powerful 🥲 I wanna hear how that’s used in context because it does sound very quirky
That all comes in time. Like any part of your voice you need to discover it and then develop it with focus. Try to control it slowly and expand it with different songs, notes, slides. Then once you can start to control this nasally sound we need to try to add depth with chest resonance so we can start shaping the tone. My full mix video might help you with this.
Thank you so much, I highly appreciate your advice ❤️ I will start practicing this and improving my support and mouth shaping, because I also noticed a little bit of strain at those very high notes when I push the bright and nasal sound
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Funny how there are lots of coaches out there charging a lot of money and they don’t mention anything like that. Your explanation is so much clearer. Nice video
Thank you!
been looking for this exact video for the past week! thank you!!
Great...you release helpful tips to lighten the voice and to darken it ad libitum..........!
great exercises thanks!
Hi Leman, there are a million voice videos on TH-cam, but yours is the best. I have a question that I'm sure a lot of other watchers of your video probably do to. To me it seems that, with much proper practice, we will be able to do your voice exercises within the range of our voices. Once we can do that fairly well, can you give us a melody line to try to sing. I presume singing vowel and consonant words will be much more of a challenge. Being new to vocal lessons, I thought that would give us a good measuring stick to determine how well we are coming along.
This was awesome. Really appreciate you shooting this video. I will put this to work!
No problem man! If you run into issues or need some other exercises or clarification let me know! Again, we don't need to be pretty at first, once we get the notes and coordination we can shape the tone we want!
@@lemandoeslogic2261 Will do - not sure if you do lessons over the internet (zoom/skype) - but would love to work on this area with you
@@KevinStock12 Yes I actually am a piano/voice teacher! I would be glad to talk more about this and hear your goals!
@@lemandoeslogic2261 great I'll shoot you an email!
It is hard finding this kind of videos in my language so I just started looking for them in English, I found this really helpful! Thanksss a lot
No problem!
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Super helpful. I appreciate you dog.
No problem!
Great stuff man.
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Brilliant
Great video thanx
Another day of practice and I was discovering that my chest voice can go even MORe thinner, blending, cutting off excess chest resonance that I wouldn't think would cut off lol which made me continue staying more loose, in a way
Wow! I just wanna thank you
of course! Thanks for watching!
I am so frickin happy...
I like your tshirt!
8:40 june 6 2024 OMG FINALLY THAT WASN'T SO BIG OF A FLIP WHEN I TRIED IT PRACTICING
14:44 MAJESTIC lol
this is exactly what i'm sometimes searching for in my own voice
also this transition is more dark on its low note, and brighter on the higher note. i like the brighter note more, i think it's kinda perfect yk. so i wonder can someone sing high and low notes with that same brightness? i'm sure you can but can you do that bright sound on a high note without preparing your vocal posture by singing low dark notes beforehand and just singing high notes like that right off the bat? im sorry if my explanations are not so clear, i'm working on it. sometimes i'd come back and edit my comments tho
Thanks for the video man. I just figured it out. It's what you focus on. For example I can focus on the middle voice, then I can blend it with my head and then the pharyngal "mask" voice to it. Or I can focus on my chest then middle voice and vibrato will automatically happen. It's the same with both registers. It took me a year to figure this out. It was so complicated but I got it into muscle memory due to hours of exercises. A lot of people focus on notes, but it's not notes that will make you sound good. It's how you blend your resonance.
Yes I totally agree that's great!
Thanks, my experience is that you can focus on the vowel to make it sound as close as natural voice, this way it might be able to help you find the right position easier.
The tone or resonance is only part of the equation. If you don't hit the right notes, you will not sound good.
Thanks a lot, you allowed me to unlock my mixed voice, I was really looking for it. Are you going to do a vid about mixed voice from C#5 to G5? And one about saturation/distortion ?
I most likely will at some point!
@@lemandoeslogic2261 Looking forward to that!
Good lesson.a video dedicated on how to do falsetto with power would be awesome. My chest voice over powers everthing when i try to sing high. Its a struggle to cut loose from chest.thanks.
I do have a video on how to develop falsetto if you'd like to check that out. If you have more questions about it let me know!
It worked thanks bro
Awesome! You're welcome!
This is some fun stuff, thank you for sharing. I can get a mixed sound I think, that goes quite loud without trying to overproject, especially doing the fry version (very familiar with fry as a heavy vocalist) but I can't seem to do what you did where you then turn it into a more pleasant, powerful sounding note. I have a strong head/chest voice but how do I "dial in" more oomph when I'm in my mix register?
It depends on what range you are talking about when we get to A4 on it is very hard to get much chest up here, but if you warm up very well and experiment with being super nasal in the mask and trying to darken the tone and getting a hint of chest you can do this which will darken the tone making it sound fuller, also adding fry always gives more presence to the note it just depends what you are looking to do.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 Thank you, I'll experiment and let you know how I get on.
10:50 i find it so useful, also discovered it
That’s awesome!!
4:54 wasn't ready for that LOL
hahaha yes such a beautiful sound!
I just wish I had experience singing through growing up to know my voice better.
I started singing when I was 19 years old. Anyone can develop their voice and become a strong vocalist it just takes dedication and time. Don’t give up keep going!
Hey, I have just found your channel and found it very useful because you show here many things which I did not see elsewhere.
I am trying to develop my mixed voice for range A4 - C5. Sometimes it goes pretty good and the result is acceptable. But most of time I absolutely cannot get any sound of my vocal folds. It is just "frozen" and hoarse. It sounds like I am sick but I am not. Do you have any experiences with this type of trouble?
Here is the sound record.
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The only trouble I have had anywhere near that is only being able to hit notes with vocal fry and not clean when my voice wasn't quite developed enough to hit certain notes clean.
@LemanDoesLogic , m8 thank you for the content. I can do this easily, but I noticed that you used a lot of volume and a lof tension as well. I dont think this is healthy at all.. Now I'm trying to use less and less tension after I reach the notes this way. Other this that I noticed is that many singer do this voice on "Eh" vowel for example Cryin for Stenve Tyler, "the way the i got KIIISSEDD" it's impossible for me.. Any tips on these?
As long as there is no discomfort or real fatigue this technique is fine. I can sing like this for many hours so for me I don’t feel tension. As far as the Eh vowel this should be much easier than singing EE or OO high in the mix do you struggle with those vowels?
For some reason I can't do it anymore, I just stopped getting a thin resonance with a balanced airflow even though i elevate soft palate put resonance in mask and try to optimize thr voice like earlier
hey, i'm kinda really new into singing, and i want to thank you for this content, its been amazing for me, and i need to ask this question, how to make a sweet transition in chest voice to mix voice, like Luther Vandross and The Weeknd?
A singer like the Weekend is actually singing in his mixed voice about 90 percent of the time, he utilizes almost no chest resonance when he sings except when he sings lower and even then it is not very chesty, he keeps a forward, light tone throughout his entire range. His technique is similar to what I am demonstrating in this video I am just exaggerating the nasality of it to show placement. To get smooth going up higher in this part of our voice we need a strong upper register and we start by gaining this strength by first getting our falsetto stronger, thicker, and higher. The falsetto is the stepping stone to a strong mixed voice.
@@lemandoeslogic2261thx for the comment, and how can i identify if my falsetto is strong?
i know that a private coach is certainly the right person to tell me, but i can't afford one right now :(
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@@mateusadilsonm.5772 you should be able to have close to as much resonance and volume with falsetto compared to your full or chest voice. If it’s airy and breathy it’s weak
I can do the exercises and the sound is very similar to how yours is. What is the next step after this to get a chestier sound without actually pulling chest
My video on full mix should help with this!
I'm revisiting to say that that honky sound has changed my life. I now have this powerful high head voice that was sometimes there but not always. and it's that honk that gave me the access and muscle memory. it's been 3 weeks . thanks so much . and I can add grit wirh no weight or strain.
That's awesome, I am glad it helped!!
@@lemandoeslogic2261 I would love to send you a sample . Maybe I will upload something and post to here .
@@stebolian That would be great!
@@lemandoeslogic2261 ok I'm back.
I have been able to achieve this on a daily basis . HOWEVER. Lol. I played my first gig for a while yesterday and unfortunately after about 6 songs I somehow completely lost the ability to connect this and it was just a messy fry. Wtf happened lol. I tried to find the sound on the way home and slowly started getting it again. And today it's back there strong again. Whyyyyyyyyyyy lol . My guess is after singing with the normal coordination, I confused my brain or muscles to get this mix happening . Please any thoughts . Thanks so much anyways
@@stebolian To me that sounds like its possible you were pushing your voice a bit and it was from fatigue and maybe not used to singing in this voicing for long periods of time. I would say just continue with consistency...similar things have happened to me in the past where I wasn't quite strong enough in the mix yet or I wasn't using technique as well as I should have I fall into a fry as well which can develop into a crutch to hit hight notes for sure.
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This helped a lot. There is one thing that I feel like I'm always fighting with, and it's that my voice tends to want to slip into a fry scream and I can't stop it sometimes. Any tips?
this happened to me when I was trying to sing higher and higher. One thing you need to check is how strong your falsetto is, when you are entering a fry it simply means you cannot coordinate your vocal chords to fully stretch to the position they need to hit hit the note close. Try hitting this note in falsetto with a nice relaxed stretch go the chords. Then go a half step or whole step below this note and practice hitting this note clean in mix over and over until it is easy. Then, try very quickly and without pushing to jump quickly touch that note you are trying to go far by going up to it with a 3 note scale up to it just to touch the note with the same voicing and placement. Also, what needs to be considered is the range and note you are going for. Depending on where your voice is at in its development you may need to lean even more into the mask if you are getting too high to keep a chesty full mix.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 Thanks for the tips! I'll try that out some more. Immediately I notice that when flipping from falsetto note to mixed and then back, I get this break that starts to sound a bit like yodeling. Not a smooth transition so I guess I have to just practice and iron that out.
Edit: I also tend to transition around G4. I also notice that I have to use a lot more breath pressure to not get the note to crack in mixed when compared to falsetto, which ironically I think is contributing to the nonsmooth transition? Sounds like my culprit may be underdeveloped falsetto maybe?
@@apothecarry7544 this could be a mixture of things but yes the falsetto should be very strong and resonant and not airy. I used to have to lean quite a bit in the mask and have a thinner tone around G4 but with a stronger falsetto and bring the chest up I can now sustain notes G4 and up with a lot of chest resonance. It’s a combination of strengthening these sections
When doing octave leaps but with chest-->falsetto-->chest, i can keep my soft palate engaged normally on the rise, but when descending, it tries to return to its original position thus opening up the nasal passage which is wrong for this technique, right? should the soft palate indeed be always elevated and closing up the nose when practicing this?
I found something different which I can use to sometimes hit notes up to Eb5 but I'm not sure if that is a mixed voice. It feels very similar to chest voice and the effort it takes is more than say an E3 in chest voice but way less than belting in my chest. BUT I have two major problems with this voice:
1) On the lower mixed notes (G4-Bb4) it has a rasp or crackling to it which I can't control (especially with closed vowels). It doesn't hurt at all which is why I think the sound is produced by my false cords but I don't know how to eliminate that nasty sound.
2) Although my mixed voice is entirely connected to my chest voice, when I try transitioning into my head voice I have a similar voice break/crack as when I'm going straight from chest to head voice.
Can someone help me to get over these issues?
This sounds like a very specific issue that won't be able to be fixed texting back and forth. If you can only hit certain notes with vocal fry it just means your vocal cords haven't gained the strength or muscle memory to get into this voicing clean which happened to me for quite awhile too. I would have to hear this to really figure out what is going on and analyze it!
@@lemandoeslogic2261 So should I just practise to get more relaxed and build the muscle memory over time? I should also add that I'm 15 years old and although I'm past my major voice break, my voice is probably still developing and maybe that's why my vocal cords are just stressed sometimes without an obvious reason.
@@scheibenkleister861 To me it sounds like you most likely need to strengthen your upper register so your falsetto and mask resonance. I would get to at least F5 in a strong falsetto and practice your mask resonance going up over your break. It is hard to pinpoint the exact issue without giving you a personal lesson/analysis.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 I don't think my high register is the problem. I can go up to an A6 in my Head Voice. What do you exactly mean by Mask Resonance? Does this mean mixed voice or just any register with much twang? Btw. thank you for answering my very specific question.
Great video! Thanks. What would the next steps be for a better quality of the voice in that range?
There could be many steps, it is hard for me to tell without knowing the current strength of the voice but I always say, developing a strong falsetto is always a good first step in strengthening the mixed voice.
Is it true that tensing under chin muscles doesn't allow to the cords to mix?
I have tried so many tips and there is always sth tensing under the chin,even a little
I have never heard this, I would say no you could still mix with tension there but it certainly won't help. It takes awhile to have very little in the neck and face when getting up in these tricky areas, the only thing that should have tension or pressure is the diaphragm and abdominal area.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 How can I make sure that I'm using support of the abs not just filling them with air?
@@amirrjk6934 So your diaphragm is what we fill with air by inhaling through our mouth. When we use support to start singing higher or with more power you should feel your abs engaging to create air pressure. This should honestly feel similar to pooping or flexing your abs
Bro your videos are wonderful buh can I knw how a support should feel how to have a good breath support
Thanks! To be honest it depends what range you are singing in, if you are belting with power you definitely need to use your abs as support almost as if you are pooping in a way lol. A lot of issues with support also can stem from fear of hitting notes or not actually breathing when you sing, which I did when I began. If you are afraid of what you are singing you usually hold your breath to some extent...there should be a good amount of movement and energy below your stomach when taking breaths and singing each phrase. If that is not the case try panting loudly like a big dog, as funny as it sounds this is a good example of how much effort we should be using to support.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 thanks for this good information bro buh it alws have been confusing for me either my support is poor or my compression is bad and it’s even hard to articulate the notes which I could hit in scales and exercises buh not in songs
@@MOTIVATIONINSIDES It is hard for me to tell how to help as easily just by comments. I would suggest try going on a run pr exercising before singing just as an experiment. My breathing is much deeper and I always feel more ready to sing after exercise.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 bro can you post a video lesson on support and compression
Why is it that after singing, after about 10 min of rest and silence, there is a moment when i swallow and i get a feeling that my epiglottis (if i'm not wrong) that i use to block airways is suddenly especially wet? i have a feeling that it's normal and will decrease after time because i'm just generally not used to use my voice with right techniques. it happened just now when i was doing a masky falsetto as an experiment, without much support but with loud resonance. was doing it for 7 mins in different pitches
Today I couldn't do it. Maybe because I kinda burnt out from other things I do. I noticed that when I try to go higher today, even though i try to maintain the mask, it goes away and to the back of my head. I'm not done for today though. It's just that sometimes I'm a bit not so flexible in my thinking if the day was still and it's easier to write down thoughts while forming them
I noticed that my mask goes away because i add too much support ruining the right airflow-support balance, even though I try to make the sound thin
That's what I want. That clean bite. And it sounds easy. Is it?? Maybe it's a positioning thing, was there a time when you couldn't do this and all of a sudden bammm??? Please advise
Once you develop this section it is pretty easy, but it took me at least a couple years when I was starting from no training. Once my falsetto was strong and my chest was strong I began developing a new middle voicing but it was very week, at that point it pretty much was constant experimentation until I had enough strength and the placement clicked then I could really take this mix much higher. If you have moire questions let me know!
@@lemandoeslogic2261 cannot believe I did the honky thing and did this. Wtf . I could do it all along but ddnt realise how to approach it. It like my falsetto flips into this . Wow man. Thanks so much for the honky method. I've tried this for years using people like Chris leipe and rock your best vocals. And kind of got a tight feeling that wasn't free.
I will now practise this so much
P.s the high pitch I'm getting is ridiculous and scares me a bit . Wow, I experimented with Prince songs to see of thets what he does. I think it is and dimash kind of
@@stebolian That's great man! We have to not worry about sounding ridiculous to figuring out these mechanisms and then we can tweak the tone to make it what we want so keep going I am glad it helped!
@@stebolian With Prince, certain songs like "Kiss" he is singing completely in falsetto but leaning into the mask slightly to give brightness, sort of like the Bee Gee's but less nasal and he is a bit more breathy with his tone.
I can’t sing along with your video efficiently because I can’t even get near C5 or A5 like you can. Is this video for more advanced singers in the higher registers?
Yes this is definitely more advanced for when the mixed voice has been developed at least to some extent. Check out my falsetto and sift mix video to start strengthening your upper register
8:55 do you use vibrato because you want to or to use less air? Sorry if this comment doesn't make sense. Maybe these are my excess thoughts
5:38 Have you ever been able to sing with this technique comfortably? Especially fast songs with many powerful high notes
Yes but now actually like to sing with more chest and a lower larynx position singing many high notes in a row
Do you elevate soft palate at all? Is it what you mean at 10:11 to lean more on the blocked passage or.. just lean on the nose to let airflow through it instead of mouth?
I think earlier I was hitting high notes with nose closed from inside and it still sounded nasal
And also when I was elevating soft palate I felt more resonance in my head
Always lifting the soft palate, but placing the air and resonance in the mask and nose to have a thinner tone instead of trying to be full and dark in chest, this takes more time and power
@@lemandoeslogic2261 Thanks for the clue!
Hello Leman,my voice type is baritone (C2-E4- pure Head voice is G5)
Can i sound more like tenor by using balanced or chesty mix?
Cause eberytime i try to mix more chesty, it obviously falls into pure head
Maybe you have some tip for deeper voice like me?
I don't really believe in labeling voices. I was told I was a baritone and now I would be considered a tenor 1 or high tenor from developing my voice. I would have to hear you but off the bat I would strengthen your falsetto and then your chest to get a bit higher. I have videos on these as well
@@lemandoeslogic2261 yea, that's makes a lot of sense
Yeah i saw one vid,i think "chesty mix" but maybe i should practice again,
Thanks for advices 😉✊
*a4 I get airy or constipated*
*any solution or exercise?*
I would honestly have to hear it but A4 is a tricky note. Try being super nasal and try to just get up to it very quickly at first.
Is there difference between head mix and mask head voice?
these are just terms that can be confusing. You can lean your falsetto into the mask to sound like the Bee Gee's or you can get so high into your mixed voice that it is only in the mask and head.
How to sing in chesty mix?
That will be one of my next videos!
How to sing in Heady mix?
A "Heady Mix" could mean a lot of different things so it depends if you are referring to a falsetto mix or a more full sounding "medium" mix. My video on Falsetto mix might help clear this up for you!
by the way do you notice that if you drink milk then vocal fry just becomes less saturated for a while? maybe it's just me. and also if i eat an orange or a tangerine then my vocal fry becomes more defined, also for a bit
Hahah no I haven’t noticed either of these but if I don’t use fry for like even a week my screams are thinner
AGEJAOHEHKGAK THANK YOU SO MUCH I JUST WENT UP TO G# TFFFFFFFF
AND IM ALSO LEARNING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF SUPPORT AND HOW TO USE IT AT ALL MAAAN
Awesome keep going!
I know this one good singer StealthRG (aka Chipz) that can sound pretty similar to this mixed voice. Also his speaking voice reminds me of yours (and vice versa)
Could've sworn i saw the stick move left to right on his shirt when he was going up and down with his voice 7:10.
If a voice gets so loud that I think I might lose it, is it normal when stretching vocal chords or should I try to just optimize what I'm doing a bit? I'm not tense at all except a certain level of the diaphragm use, and I just think maybe the voice dries out. I never felt my voice becomes dry until I found out a better resonance in my voice by doing these excersises.
There should never be discomfort and if there is stop. However, it takes time to figure out how much air pressure to use throughout the different ranges of your voice and sometimes when we apply too much pressure we can start to get itchy throats or feel discomfort, just take a break and come back if you feel this. I definitely had some discomfort as I was finding my voice, expanding my range, and figuring out how to use my diaphragm and the amount of pressure but I would just stop if it became uncomfortable or hoarse in any way.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 Thank you so much. I sometimes notice that there should be different air pressure in dif ranges indeed, but I'm glad you're pointing it out because I will remember it more now. Ok! So interesting
@@quwane Generally, we use less air pressure in our lower range but more air flow to hit notes way down in our lower chest but more air pressure as we go up in range but this can easily be confused as much strain/unnecessary tension. We do need to increase air pressure in the diaphragm as we go up in range while remaining relaxed in our throat and face. We also begin to thin the voice and use a thinner part of our vocal cords as we go up in range.
@@lemandoeslogic2261 OOOOH I got it. So, the higher the notes, the more air pressure but the airflow should stay the same as on low notes. That point to remain with the same posture and not tense up when going up I really experienced too. Anyhow even if my conclusion is wrong I will try it all out by myself as well.
Normally I don't even speak much which sucks but that's the reason why I couldn't figure out the right balance between air pressure and airflow to find good resonance. Usually my voice fries out a lot when just talking because I don't use much airflow. And you can't say I have a deep voice when talking at all but I can go very deep without increasing airflow but vice versa increasing air pressure and adding vocal fry with compression
I don’t find being nasal or bright ever helped me, it eventually kicked my voice into some weird nasality even in speaking tone and was kinda baked into my tone . To me what helped was the SLS approaches and just relaxing into it not pushing too hard in volume or tone. I fee the voice naturally goes where it needs to song as it’s taken in a relaxed and slower pace.
I was also taking lessons from an opera teacher so I guess I blended the two approaches but her approach was nasality and volume and frankly it sucked and ruined my tone. I’m assuming the muscles in my body just got used to synchronizing in a specific way and something just stuck with me. But yeah I could go above c 5 without nasal so idk, I frankly think it’s not necessary
Different methods work for different people. I think the goal should always to be to do whatever you want with your voice and shape your tone however you like as well whether it be to darken or brighten it. It never hurts to have more tools.
@lemandoeslogic2261 Yeah that’s true. What is it about nasality that helps with higher notes being achieved ?
I think focusing on the tone was where I was set but feeling it out slowly and building confidence in my own sensation through lip trills helped . Back with my teacher , I was mentality in a state of nasality for reach but I did that for months as I increased my range and the nasal tone was thus hard to move away from.
But what is it about nasality that helps the highest notes supposedly? I have to continue the video maybe you mention it
@@heythere6983 for most people that try to utilize the mask first when strengthening the mask it is helpful because it is much easier to get through your natural vocal break with a very bright, forward, and thin sound as you go higher as opposed to trying to bring a full chesty sound higher and higher and having your voice crack every time. This totally depends on how it is approached and practiced as well. But for me and how I teach, I strengthen the falsetto first to allow muscle memory in the vocal cords comfortably moving into higher positions and hitting higher notes without tension in time. Then when you start using a masky nasally tone you are slowly incorporating a thicker part of your vocal cord into the sound, thickening the tone and resonance. Finally, in time when this is strong a darker, fuller tone with chest resonance can be added and blended in.
@lemandoeslogic2261 Ok okay that sounds like it makes a lot of sense and is well rounded.
Pretty sure I was just taught “be more nasal” and that was it lol. Nasal plus loud was my recipe , yours makes a lot more sense
@@heythere6983 the ugly nasal tone described in this video is called "twang". it's not necessarily nasal as if you're resonating all the sound in the nasal cavity but what happens when you make that bratty childlike or honky sound is you narrow down your aryepiglottic sphincter which is the tube-like space above the vocal folds to produce a bright piercing sound without needing to push. just like when u pinch and narrow the opening tube of the garden hose, the reduction in space causes the water to accelerate as it passes through the narrowed opening, increasing the pressure and force with which it exits the hose. Same thing with twang, as it allows the voice to cut through a mix more easily and reach the back of a large room or a noisy environment without the singer having to increase volume excessively and it helps with getting into your mixed voice as the brightness helps you transition smoothly across your registers. You also mentioned that you take lessons with an opera coach. well, in classical singing they don't really use twang but instead of relying on twang for projection and clarity, classical singers focus on optimising the resonance within their vocal tract. They achieve this by techniques that expand the pharyngeal space which is what most people refer to as the "open throat" technique. Contemporary singers focus on forward placed sound while in classical or choral singing, they focus more on the back resonance thats why often their sound has less nasal resonance is because they tend to lift the soft palate more to create more space at the back of the throat.
I don’t know if I’m mixing or it’s just my mask voice ☹️
If you are utilizing your mask, you are probably mixing to some extent however, getting over your natural vocal break in mix is another mountain to climb. The term "mixed voice" can be interpreted and defined many different ways, and many people have different opinions. I would be happy to help more if I can!
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Hey bro, I've been working on "When I was your man" by Bruno Mars lately. Really just to challenge myself with the notes and I'm starting to explore parts of my voice that I have wanted for a long time, but never really had any clear direction on how to develop. Parts such as when is he using his mix vs. how does he seem to pull his chest so high up. It would be sick if you could do a video based on something like that and disect what is happening with the voice and how to achieve those results.
I have a video on full mix which focuses more on a chesty mix. Bruno is singing in mix almost 100 percent of the time in all on his choruses. He can bring up a chesty mix fairly high but in his higher notes above A4 it’s mostly a masky mix
6:39 this is literally what i started doing yesterday lol
Can you show , belting
I have a video on “full mix” which because is belting or using more chest for power but I can certainly do much on belting with power
How do you do full mix if this is medium mix?
I have a video on full mix on my page!
@@lemandoeslogic2261 Thank you. If you get the medium mix, would it be easy to get the full chest mix? Also, do you have a video about the MASK?
@@cryptomaniac6926 Yes in time that is the goal. This medium mix I am pretty much demonstrating as much mask resonance as you can get but I'd be happy to explain more.
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Thank You!
Jesus your voice goes high when you did the honky slide! Mine goes nowhere near that even in falsetto or mix. The chords just close and stop vibrating way before where you get.
It just takes time stay with it!
“medium mix” A4-C5 is kind of a joke for a bass baritone 😅 I don’t think I could ever hit those notes in any mix voice at all-
Believe me you can…. I was told I was a baritone when I started singing and I could barely get to F#.
Yea - its medium mix but sounds totally unusable in a song.
The point isn’t to use the tone for how you would sing the point is to get into mix and strengthen that muscle memory and then build the desirable tone after
There is so much wrong with this video.
How do you mean ?
@@MrZZsharka Did you watch the video? Go ahead and follow what he says and see how much damage you do to your vocal chords.
@@billybaldwin8918 So what would you do differently ? (Obviously things take time so to expect to be able to hit all the notes that he does is unrealistic) So besides telling people that disclaimer, what would make this better ?
@@MrZZsharka "Push more with the diaphragm" is all he needs to say to show that he knows very little about singing.
Okay I gave the video a shot and it actually worked, like I managed to get the same mix you had in this video and got to sing/squeek whatever u wanna call it, very high notes. The thing is: how can you make them pretty or powerful 🥲 I wanna hear how that’s used in context because it does sound very quirky
That all comes in time. Like any part of your voice you need to discover it and then develop it with focus. Try to control it slowly and expand it with different songs, notes, slides. Then once you can start to control this nasally sound we need to try to add depth with chest resonance so we can start shaping the tone. My full mix video might help you with this.
Thank you so much, I highly appreciate your advice ❤️ I will start practicing this and improving my support and mouth shaping, because I also noticed a little bit of strain at those very high notes when I push the bright and nasal sound
What is your full mix video called?
@@lionking5742 “How To Get A Chesty Mixed Voice: Full Mix”