Could Taiwan Hold off A Chinese Invasion
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- China could be tempted to invade neighboring Taiwan, but could the Taiwanese military hold off the Chinese invasion before support arrives? Check out today's new video to see if Taiwan stands a chance at surviving an all out conflict with China, and would China be so daring as to risk an invasion without serious repercussions from the US and Japan? Find out in today's epic new video.
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Taiwan is basically the ultimate version of home alone.
This is actually the most ridiculously accurate comparison imaginable.
Na it’s Switzerland
They have every entrance to to the country but one is rigged to explode at a single button
Odeeee
What would happen if Taiwan, Switzerland and Vietnam all moved to Bhutan, prepared it and then got invaded by India and China
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
*Taiwan breaks off of China*
Taiwan: We're China
China: No, you're Taiwan
Taiwan: Ok! We're Taiwan
China: No, you're China
LOL
Taiwan province?
India will always support your country ❤️❤️
right Word
@@vishwas5257 yes
As a Taiwanese, this is a bit too optimistic.
Well it is, but seems logic as China buff themselves too much and got lots of enemies
Agreed
@@Miourekkai yes lots
Maybe not though? Plus the video did say most of the forces landed but have to engage in a war of attrition!
Taiwan has the upperhand in a lot of ways but in the end without US led intervention China would be victorious if willing to go all in... However the Vietnam war is a prime example!!!
@@Miourekkai i think he means china will win easily. there are some reason for this. DPP has basically damage the ROCA chain of command by allowing officer to skip bond. the end result is alot of ROCA doctor, pilot and other skilled personal are lure by big salary in mainland private sector and they basically quit the force. now they are talking about restoring conscription but i feel it might be too late even if they somehow fine the political will to defend the island. opinion poll shown most taiwanese will not willing to fight for taiwan.
also western media tend to overplay "china's enemies", even japan is unlikely to side against china as china is japan's biggest export destination as well as the fact that japan has a secret desire to normalise itself. it need a strong china to justify this politically so we are likely to see japan make it a political issue and remilitarise then to weaken the threat of china. japan simply do not wish to remain a US puppet so they need an excuse, if US fail to defend Taiwan, that would be the excuse they need to say they can't trust US ability to defend them.
regardless i don't see war between the mainland and taiwan as beijing already believe it has won and thus it is only a matter of time. china is only going to get stronger, the longer they wait, they more advantageous it is for them. they are entirely fine with taiwan self-rule so long at they still hold de jure soveighty over the island. while DPP has boasted about amending the constitution to make taiwan a country, they have no done so and it is unlikely they will ever do so given their anti military stance... buying military hardware without the personnel to manned them won't really do anything, it is political costly to tell taiwan parents their kids need to fight for taiwan.
I would be curious to see an updated version of this in light of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine
What I have learned from the Russian invasion is that a river is a good defense. The other lesson is the power of mines.
"This was supposed to be an easy war"
Every invasion force, ever.
*Flashbacks of vietnam*
well sometimes they're right
Maybe if taiwan learn guerrilla warfare. It defeated US maybe against china
not germany
6 day war moment
China: "we're going to invade you"
70 years later
China: "we're going to invade you"
There's another infographics video that says Taiwan can only be invaded in April and October due to monsoon season.
@@knoahbody69 then they had more than 140 chances to invade lol
man 70 years earlier they had no navy
@@chickoutyo yep.but nobody knows why China didn't take action
Taiwan
China: let’s test this hypothesis
One costly experiment
Hmm
Hopefully the world would just take carr of china.
No don't
Conclusion: They Pussied Out.
China: this war was supposed to be easy
Taiwan: u think
yes, it will
Imagine world war 3 starts
Switzerland: Oh no! Anyways....
@CHRISTIAN ROMERO Taiwan has some very strong allies. In the very off chance this scenario of a Chinese invasion happens their allies could support them. Big knock on effects could happen just like WW1
@CHRISTIAN ROMERO
Because democracy is non negotiable.
@CHRISTIAN ROMERO because if one country starts a war then the allies might join in then it’s just the domino affect one country’s allies join in the other country’s allies join in and soon the world will be at a war for years
America will be the sleeping giant it was during the start of ww2 since pandemic
@CHRISTIAN ROMERO haven't we witnessed that twice in the last century now ?
China: Dont mind me over here just taking notes
😂
Trueeeeee watch this happen and China knows exactly what to do.
Something I'd like to point out are that Chinese troops spend time doing ideological training (instead of more combat training). Oh, and China's anti-corruption campaigns are political purges. Also - this is with US forces, there's already a carrier (the USS Ronald Regan) in Japan - and it may go the way previous invasion attempts happened. China prepares to attack and the US places ships in the Taiwan straight, forcing China to either attack them or call off the invasion.
@@leninvalentine9932 ok
@Carl Gille hippity hoppity Chiang Kai-Shek has returned to a Nanjing Government Property
"Everyone Has a Plan Until They Get Punched in the Mouth" Mike Tyson.
Well said, training and pray for war never happen
Pretty much what happened to the US every major conflict after WW2
Not really I've been punch in the face a lot of time until it's nothing for me and I still can do my plan which is just get close and pynch him in the ribs lots of time which I failed at and he ended up back kick my gut when I try to punch his ribs
No battle plan survived contact with the enemy.
8 knew I'd see this quote here 😂
Invading Taiwan would definitely come at a huge cost for China whether they ultimately succeeded or not. That's assuming the USA or Japan doesn't get into position a lot sooner to assist with counter-attacks. Civil unrest would definitely be one of China's primary downfall. A few other considerations would be 1) economic sanctions hampering the economy which fuels more unrest, 2) countries like VN or PH don't start making moves of their own on the disputed islands. I'm curious to see how North Korea or Russia would behave during this.
Lies again? Uneducated China
As we've seen with Russia, sanctions do work. And can be catastrophic.
Japan vn or ph getting involved will get them nuked
naaa ur overestimating it the missile barrage will wipeout any soo called defense left lolz and drone attack will be the new game as we seen in ukraine war it wont be human that take loss AI pilot boat will swim through sea mine field clearing any roadblock once that done ship will be on land and its gg LOOLZZ idiots😂
Civil strife in China is far smaller than you think, far less than foreign protests.
Taiwan: "how can we, a small country, defender ourselves from a global superpower?"
Vietnam: smears poo on punji stake
Lol
Afghanistan is getting ready for China's turn having already sent the Soviet Union and America packing.
@@r.scottmacleod4564 except china doesn't need anything from that s hole.
You figure out what the s stands for
@@r.scottmacleod4564 The Chinese will exploit their resources and support the Taliban..so probably not going to go they way it did for the US and Afghanistan. Afghan has HUGE deposits of copper, and China is all about mining it.
@@r.scottmacleod4564 when American military in Afghanistan, Chinese officials criticize America. When America withdraw their troops, they said America is a hypocrite. Smh now that America withdrawn their troops, the China government deem Afghanistan as dangerous so they started to evacuated their citizens. Also the talibans are all on friendly term with China government.
China: *Invades*
Taiwan: "We got this!"
America: "Wait for us!"
Japan: "We're here too!"
Korea (Both): *Nervous sweating* "Stop looking at me like I'm Poland."
America be like "Show me the money, Taiwan or we will invade Taiwan first, before China".
North Korea take this nuke usa
After China and Japan fought at war in Korea in 1894, China gave Taiwan to Japan as the result.
After China invaded South Korea in 1950, USA decided to send 7th fleet to Formosa Straits to defend Taiwan. CCP has not touched a single hair of Taiwan since then.
...like im poland.😂😂😂😂😂 i thought you commenting serously huh
Landing in Taiwan? The economy is decoupled from Taiwan and a military blockade is imposed on Taiwan. Wanwan collapsed and was over.
China vs Taiwan: This was supposed to be an easy war
US vs Vietnam: This was supposed to be an easy war
Axis WWII: This was supposed to be an easy war
I guess its never that easy
Finland vs USSR even though soviets got some land
Difference being the Chinese will do whatever needs doing to win because they can’t afford to lose.
@@mikehanson9497 dude they're both chinese. Taiwan is the republic of china.
Bruh China does have some pretty strong allies
@@yanzhang5885 , yeah but taiwan has USA, and Nato
These videos are always so unrealistic
Just a Taiwanese here to see if there's any Chinese in the comment...
你知道我想等你嗎？ 嗎嗎嗎嗎？
🇺🇸 stands with 🇹🇼
Taiwan yes
如你所愿
@B. Tacktheritrix The recent situation in the south china sea says otherwise lots, of US navy came recently after chinas provocations, when china flew over taiwan with jets and bombers a few weeks ago a US carrier group came right away.
I am going to say this: this is extremely optimistic
That's what I was thinking. From what I understand, Taiwan has let its military capabilities lax a lot recently. They're starting to turn that around, but it might be too late.
I agree but regardless I don’t think China would risk more public unrest caused by the deaths of their young men on mass. They already have current and definite future unrest in Hong Kong, if the regime is smart (which they have proven to be in many ways) they would not risk an invasion for the foreseeable future.... and by then Taiwan will only have gotten stronger but honestly who knows what happens 10 years down the road.
@@zztimelapsezz nah they are eyeing Taiwan in their rise as a super power as they are taking advantage of the fact that the west is in the process of pushing bad ideologies, politics, and policies down America's throat causing us to decline and fracture leaving the world open to a genocidal country.
@@damienmccuinn1956 you say this as though China hasn’t been pushing a totalitarian unsustainable political system with more civil unrest than we have ever even been told about. The second China tries calling the US’ bluff and invades Taiwan and or any other nearby ally its war. China cannot afford to go to war with the US and the US cannot afford to go to war with China. This is all posturing by China to leave the door open to a future reclamation of Taiwan, whether that be in 20 years or 100. Make no mistake the US is the sole superpower of the world until China enforces its claims to its so called territorial waters.
Conquering Vietnam and Iraq was supposed to be "easy" too. you severely underestimate the Taiwanese people.
The problem with this video is Taiwan does everything right and China does everything wrong. A real scenario is unknown.
its a propaganda video what you expect?
Either way, even if you just look at the numbers, Taiwan can hold off the PLA long enough for the US to arrive, they have already sworn to aid if china invades. That's why for decades all we've heard is "we're going to invade and save Taiwan" from the CCP but nothing has been done.
@@fiftyfive1s410 oh don’t get me wrong I know the chances of Taiwan being occupied are very slim it’s a wealthy nation for its size with a large military if mobilised there is certainly no way China could ever get of the beach head if it mange’s to make one.
Yes it is unknown
Many military analysts were proved wrong that lack of siegecraft will defeat army ina siege
This vid obviously produced by the Taiwan Govt. media unit......Lol
As a Taiwanese, I'm not worried about China doing the military approach
I'm more worried about the **other** options China has
Such as nuclear weapons?
@@thomasplamenco8734 no espionage corrupt politicians etc
@@thomasplamenco8734 they could use an embargo and other non violent strategies to make Taiwan agree to their terms
@@thomasplamenco8734 Bruh China's goal here is to "reclaim" Taiwan in one piece, nuking the place would be quite counterproductive by their book
China does not care about taking Taiwan in 1 piece. It’s about the territory,land,resources, & above all, it would be a very valuable, strategic asset. China would love nothing better than to just flatten Taiwan. If they take Taiwan some day in the future, they would bulldoze everything anyway & build it out as they see fit. The land is what they want.
"China could only cross the straight in October and April" Me, watching on March 31st 😬
😂
😳
Ayo for real tho they are ramping up military forces near the strait
@@Nomanjj f_xk CHINA
Yea I’m making plans if we need to evacuate, as I live there. So far, options are China or New Zealand. I’m hoping New Zealand, please pray for me. I also have a survival bag under my bed.
“This will be an easy war.”
That’s what USA thought while invading Vietnam!🤣
@Zyy Kernel US too with Korea & Afghanisthan!😂😂
in 1979， China defeat Vietnam in 30 days
But in fact no matter Korea or Vietnam War,China always be there. Besides,the distance between chinese mainland and tw is almost ignorable.
No north Vietnam invaded the south get your facts straight
@@NikhilAditya25 Also too when Japan invaded China, Germany invaded Russia, Arabs invaded Israel three times, Iraq invaded Kuwait, Iraq invaded Iran, Mexico invaded US, and Argentina invaded Falkland Islands.
I came here after the visit of Nancy Pelosi in Taipei!
You have many slaves, Xerxes, but few warriors. - King Leonidas
The real Xerxes had no slaves...he was against it actually. Greeks on the other hand...
@@snowballpumpkin2577 do ou know what figure of speech really means?
Greeks crush huge invasion army of persia. Lesson to learn.
@@andreighdelacruz7642 figure of speech, should reflect a point. If the figure of speech is incorrect, then it reflects ignorance.
Do you know what ignorance is?
@@yummychips_ his figure of speech does have a point, regardless if it's correct or not. I understand his reference and what he's trying to say. You are the only one who don't. Yes, the movie is historically incorrect, but the man is referencing the movie, not the real history.
Western Taiwan doesn't stand a chance if the US helps.
Haha western Taiwan
@Joung Kim yup
Western Taiwan ? You mean China right
@@rayoperator2699 I don’t recognize them as a sovereign nation.
@@Americanpride555 taiwan will technically be attcked from western east taiwan
“That’s no Island
That’s a Battle Station”
-Chairman Xi
People Think China is Stronger than what its actually is and Think the US is weaker than what it actually is the US government liles making China and Russia
SCary so they have an Excuse to increase their Military budget, but I bet any of them have a Chance, plus China is historically bad at military, the only wars they fought are against themselves, remember the Chinese vietnamese war, vietnam had nothing, their situation was worse when they fought the US, but they still held them back untill the Hippies wanted to withdraw, plus taiwanese planes and weapons are made in the US whilst China's one are, you Know, made In China. I think china would invade taiwans Small islands, but they have 0 chance to invade taiwan
@Fark You That's some weird Drugs you've been taking latley
@Fark You Plus China is corrupt so any invasion attempt would lead to Infighting, and an attempt to coup while they have a Chance to, Just like the entire history of China, Infighting, Infighting, Infighting, Yes, China's GDP is high but that doesn't mean effecianty in wars, its Historically not even if they have the money to, Due to several reasons, and 2nd to China's Unstabilization is the BIG money Gap, more than any other country, in the US the 1%, control almost 25% of the money of you dont include Children, and Unemployed people, Whilst China's one Controls more than a whoping 90%, its not personal its just China.
@Fark You Also one last thing, if Chinese people see their massive Gap even more, where billionaires control all the money while averege citizen is poor, they wil rebel, like always, mongolais would rebel, Turks would rebel, other minoroties would rebel and Chinese themselves would rebel, im not talking about 2 or 3 million, im talking about hundreds of millions of people that you cant control all at once when they atack. sorry for bad spelling
@Fark You First thing, its historically isnt strong, its rich yes, but not strong, second thing, the Military itself could turn against its government, and last but least, they actually tried, the tried invading Taiwans Islands near china 40 kilometers away but failed misrebly
If Taiwan and India both worked together, then there is literally NO POWER on Earth that can stop their democratic alliance. :)
“This was supposed to be an easy war”
Russia, UK, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, US, Ottoman Empire, China, Ethiopia and about couple of dozens more
Yes
Don't forget : Austria-Hungary, Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, USSR, Great Britain
Those are China's allies?
@@caseycasual2044 Other Empires !!!
@@caseycasual2044 No none of them are chiniese allies, except china and maybe ethiopia
“Early 2021”
My man is reading the future
I need help I do not mean to bother you. My channel has been censored and I have not gained any subs in the past two weeks despite having four hundred views on a video yesterday. I ask you for your help thanks for your time
yeah
BUT IS HE
FBI OPEN UP
Yeah but Ive looked at it myself, There has been news articles a few weeks ago of china getting ready to invade and its gotten so bad that taiwan has called australia into help of air control and naval control
@@avan4576 oh no
Anyways
We're no strangers to love
You know the rules and so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching, but
You're too shy to say it
Inside, we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
And if you ask me how I'm feeling
Don't tell me you're too blind to see
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
(Ooh, give you up)
(Ooh, give you up)
Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)
Never gonna give, never gonna give
(Give you up)
We've known each other for so long
Your heart's been aching, but
You're too shy to say it
Inside, we both know what's been going on
We know the game and we're gonna play it
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
@@rempuia69 why would you do that
At the end
China: 'Well atleast it can't get any worse'
*US and Japan enters the chat*
China: 'Well then...'
More like :
*Japan, India, Australia enters the chat*
CCP : Well let's call our friends the Bidens.
US : Listen here folks, let's unite our power to have peace with China or else..
@@lokikuro4236 Japan is enough.
@@angeloucol8463 That is true. But those are the countries who would back Taiwan.
I’m Chinese ;-;
But I live in America
If China were to prepare to invade Taiwan, Taiwan would no and then the US Carrier Group would be off the coast almost instantly I think.
Anyone else think this make a really cool call of duty game
YES
yeah but the way things are going it's not too far to become reality before a game
@@EvillClaws ah so another historical cod game
And horrific
It's too anti china
This channel has been giving 2021 a LOT of ideas lately
WWIII starts, new pearl harbor, invades Taipei s
or maybe the december 31st final boss, lol!
Maybe in 2021 China will use coronavirus as a weapon to weak Taiwan.
@@theoneandonlyairconditione8110 looking at how Taiwan is dealing the rona that won't be happening. (It's dealing with the rona very effectively)
@@tornn8847 yeah, basically not existence
This is very optimistic, it hinges on the Taiwanese being that prepared and the Chinese being that incompetent at every aspect of modern warfare.
I agree it is over simplistic and too optimistic but one thing is absolutely certain, Taiwan would be more than prepared. An invasion of this magnitude will be detected many weeks ahead. There's no way to hide that. And Taiwan have been preparing for invasion for decades and continue to do so. The real point is that it will be very hard going for China even if they ultimately prevail (and that's by no means a certainty)
It ultimately comes down to how fast the West and it's allies respond. If they hesitate at all, Taiwan is likely doomed.
this only way of meaning about this media bc they can help government rainwashing taiwan people to intensify confrontation and become cannon fodder for the First Island chain of American.
China isn't that great at War. Many cases if 100s of Chinese losing to a small group of highly trained and experienced Soldiers
Sounds about right.
I have some Chinese ancestry i always knew about it. But I found out recently it hails specifically from Taiwan 🇹🇼 Very proud
Let’s just hope everything goes wrong for the Chinese like this video insists
You can tell the pattern of this Channel, every video they made about China is totally bias and extremely unfavorable. I can understand that, give people what they want to see for views.
Who else is here right after China just flew multiple fighter jets in Taiwanese air space?
Right here loo
Here
Yep
yep
China still can't invade Taiwan
china: *taking notes and preparing for every scenario this video mentions*
the world: *you can't be serious..*
The censor this in China
Conspiracy Theorist: "How dare you take my notes!"
china aint got no access to yt
@@awlm3668 我就中国的
Much of this video is based on prior research conducted by scholars like Ian Easton, who in turn sourced some of the strategies straight from PLA research. So I'm sure they know.
Next video: how Taiwan military invades mainland China and defeats the CCP and maybe take over Russia and if they want to maybe the entire world as well single handedly in 1 hour
hahahahaha
As someone who was born in Taiwan, has served in the mandatory Taiwanese military service and has been working in China for the past 4 years, this video is overwhelmingly optimistic about our chances.
Yeah, this video relies too much on China making every possible mistakes that it could make.
I can't see any realistic way that China will be this level incompetent.
You write English extremely well for any non-native English speaker, let alone someone who has spent the first 21 years of his life in a country that doesn't even use the English alphabet.
@@jaybee2402 Like the people who type 'there' instead of -they're- and the people who write 'your' instead of -you're-
@@jaybee2402 you’d be surprised at how many Chinese are fluent in English. When I first came to the US 5 years ago I had to spend the first half a year enduring the repetitive compliment from new people I’ve met: “wow, your English is so good!”
Yeah, as if a foreigner who spent the past years learning a language can’t be good at it.
Yes, its best to not take it seriously. Its a fake news and propogonda. Most of youtube videos made by Americans, Viets, Indians are contain too much misinformation. Its not even guarantee Americans will support you, the minute Taiwan starts losing badly, Americans will just run back to America and call Taiwanese cowards. Just like what happen in Afghanistan. The fact China never fire a shot at Taiwan shows that China hopes for a peaceful unification with Taiwan. After all, we are all the same people.
China:
"There is one thing you have missed, IVE BEEN WATCHING THIS VIDEO ALL ALONG"
Indeed,every video you guys use to insult us have be all remeber.
Yes, China will remember these, the only thing is, the government don’t even let us watch yt except till we are out of country
China:
AND IM STILL SCARED..
@@cdcdsb658 你翻墙看油管，还看的是敌台，u insult urself.
@@cristianzeta9616 看着吧，等统一了我就第一时间过来看你们笑话的
Fun fact: Bubble tea has its origins in Taiwan. Bubble tea is Taiwan's gift to the world of tasty beverages
🇹🇼 love it.
I’m Taiwanese
Im taiwanese and Malaysian
Thanks Taiwan
Asacoco
I think everyone knows that
BTW this is not flag of Taiwan but republic of China.
I’m sitting in China with a VPN... I’m preparing for political persecution...
Hope you arnt sent to "re-education" camps
Wish u luck
I hope you survive
We will come extract you
@@Yekatanarchist only muslims are sent
“The weather would be too unstable” I think I’ve heard this before?
the eastern front when germany blamed the russian winter for their failed attempt
@@deathsquadron3311 i think he was talking about the mongol incident in Japan
@metamoose @Death squadron I think he meant the DDAY invasion of Normandy
@@marvinvlogs2124 really? The waters weren't that bad on d day
i think its the mongols Taiwan and japan are in the same location
As a Taiwanese, I'd say this video is extremely optimistic on our chances. But I sure do hope when things eventually happens, this is how it will turn out.
Yes, it is very optimistic, actually, I would say, to, optimistic. Nevertheless, amphibious invasions are very very hard to pull of, and very very easy to defend. If the Taiwanese military prepares about 1/10 of what is assumed in this video, a Chinese invasion is doomed to fail from the start.
There's always a place in canada for you. (I think)
Get out while you still can
لا تقلق الصين لن تبيدكم كمى فعلت بالاويغور
You have to stop the boats landing.
China and Taiwan should reunite under Taiwan rule
Him: Calls Joe Biden the future president
Trump: IT’S NOT OVER YET
“I still have tears left!”
Ikr
Imagine trump wins tho
@@trishafreel4986 ikr
@@trishafreel4986 trump still could possibly win. 25 percent chance at least
You forgot the invasion of India in Himalayas for reclamation of its land back fron China
2 front war....
@Tanveer Ahmed Tantray pakistan would be taken care off by indian missiles and sikh regiment of indian army
Thats enough form them.
Pakistan forces use mainly chinese equipment and everyone is aware of the quality of chinese products
@Tanveer Ahmed Tantray Pakistan is like youngest boy in the fight whom you have to slap just once and he will run away crying..
Hope this helps👍
@Tanveer Ahmed Tantray i don't get why pakistan even sides with china considering how china treats Muslims
Go build some toilets 🚽 first🤣🤣🤣
@@龙傲天-q7i oh sorry i forgot you guys don't have freedom of speech in china so you are barking here.
Keep it up
Do you want Chinese Afghanistan? Cause this is how you get Chinese Afghanistan
most taiwanese will surrender anyway.
@Ru paul no nuclear power has fought each other. crimea is point example, if US and NATO isn't going to intervene in crimea that is right on their doorstep, they are not going to intervene in china. especially since both US and EU still recognise Taiwan as chinese territory, they really have no legitimacy to intervene in the chinese civil war.
@Ru paul neither does taiwan. taiwan is not a country. ROC is. taiwan as it stand now is a colony of ROC.
[ And besides America has made Taiwan there line in the sand for sino relations over the last 70 years ]
if that is so US would not have ended it recognition of ROC. remember, the one china policy was not started by PRC, it was started by ROC to keep PRC out of the UN. your so call "70 years policy" is a policy of US recognising only one china, the change is only which government it recognise as legit.
furthermore, ROC has never had a peace treaty with PRC so they are already in a state of war. if US isn't going to intervene 70 years ago when they are stronger then PLA, they are not going to do it it against a PLA that has the ability to destory all 50 US state capitol. the risk of a nuclear war that can destory both country is too great. China has to defend it soverighty, while Taiwan to the US is just a client. if US can abandon vietnam and ukraine, they can abandon taiwan. it is simply not a core interest of US no matter how u spin it.
beside, taiwanese has no interest to fight. public opinion poll show less than 20% of taiwanese are willing to take up arm and fight the PLA should the PLA land. are American willing to fight and die when the people they are fighting for ain't even going to fight?
this war is simply not one about america, regardless of how "determine" america is, it really doesn't matter.
Anything is better than current Afghanistan
@@lagrangewei the Crimea Parliament voted to be apart of Russia again and most people living their voted to in favor of it
We know why we're here again 🙃
A straight crisis a day keeps the Chinese away. 😂
We NEED the Second part of This. WE NEEEED IT
I wish we could tag people in youtube comments
@@redcar9949 imagine if we could @everyone 😂
@@redcar9949 yeah imagine XD
We do need it
Definitely
Infographics: *Releases video about Taiwanese defenses against possible Chinese invasion.*
Chinese soldiers in an underground bunker: “WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!”
Well, they can't see TH-cam.
@Prestallar 🤣🤣
@Prestallar XiPN
@Prestallar nice plug
lol slow internet in bunker
I expected an actual military simulation. This sounds like something story writers came up with.
exactly, its way too optimistic
Amma call china west taiwan
thinking same
It makes China seem completely incompetent in modern warfare
@@forrestganpu duh
Home alone but taiwan is the kid and china is the 2 burgallers and the police is japan nato and usa:
This is just home alone. But 5 TRILLION times worse for the bad guys.
You're forgetting about one of Taiwan's best friends, India. As soon as China makes any movement towards invading Taiwan, india will block off entire indian Ocean for Chinese mercantile ships, no Chinese ship goes in or out from Malacca, the only ocean route for trade for China. India may also use this opportunity to make a movement at tha aksai chin region.
Yep ,
India, Australia, United States, and Japan will be there. We have allied up against China. Possible nations to come support allies could be the United Kingdom, Sweden, Denmark, Italy, France, Germany, S. Korea, Netherlands, Canada, Belgium, and Spain.
@Ballheadpro They are leaning towards the other Nations. Other possible countries to lean towards the axis powers are Vietnam, Certain African Countries, Certain Middle Eastern Countries, and certain Central and South American countries.
War is not avoidable. It never will be.
@Ballheadpro Russia, China, N. Korea are allies. Iran aswell.
@@ayushxyz1768 *Modi Doesn't Make India Worse. Chinese Virus Make India Worse.. & India Killed more than 40 soldiers of China But Irony Is That China Didn't show Real Number's*
America should stand with Taiwan at all costs. For one, America should always honor its commitments. And two, no ground whatsoever should be surrenderd to the authoritarians in Beijing. Period.
We will most likely. After ww2 we threatened china with invasion and nukes if they invate Tiwan
@ achromaniac It's None Of The Americans Business 2 Get Involved In Other People's Battles/Wars.
@@elcarnero4763 Yes it is.
@@elcarnero4763 yes it’s our business. Don’t like that? To bad
@@todurayy9940 No It Isn't, How's Ithe Americans Business If The Americans Aren'the 1's Being Threatened By China? 2 Bad My @$§!!!
When we imagine how a fight would go in our heads, I feel like that’s what this video is doing, in favor of Taiwan
I agree this is the absolute best case scenario if China made every possible mistake they could and Taiwan did EVERYTHING right in preparing their defence. Canadian Military analysts say that Taiwan would be crippled by chinese cruise missiles, artillery, naval bombing etc. and easily taken
Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the face. - Tyson.
America & allies would defend Taiwan. China isn’t going to be able to do anything, they’ll do “damage”, but they’ll lose.
@@Liam-zo4jm you don’t think america would exercise a little caution in preventing an all out confrontation with China?
Don’t get me wrong. I’m American. But all out war with China would be devastating to the global economy. And the US knows it is in no position to manufacture all it needs without China.
That would give us cause for pause. And it certainly is scary
@@rabidlenny7221
China needs trade, there economy is run on these trades. Once they get wind that America is getting involved, they’ll go back to threatening Taiwan without doing anything.
I personally think China will not invade Taiwan as long as America is involved.
Who's here now, after Pelosi visited Taiwan?
*Taiwan*-“WRITE THIS DOWN WRITE THIS DOWN!!”
nah. this video is dumb
@@RodrigoFerreira-bs6hd ok communist
@@goldenexp2357 Well I do believe this video is design by CCP to make Taiwan underestimate PLA. This video is … unreal. PLA have no preparation and launch an attack, how could this happen?PLA general are not naive children.
Plus pretty much more than half of Chinas army is not trained
@@extra9690 yes but most of China’s solders are not well trained and china has never planned a attack this big before
PRC air force: *MASSIVE*
PRC navy: tiny
Strategy: *naval invasion*
Right? hahaha
What makes you think the Chinese navy is tiny?
@@yangshujian only 22 vessels
@@yangshujian plenty of submarines but surface warships are lacking... only 1 aircraft carrier and it's a used one from Russia.
@@jeremydegeytere8385 2 now actually, and china had been building large landing vessels, 5 in production, and they have 6 right now instead of 3 as what infographic show had motioned in the video, in fact, Chinese navy is the second biggest naval power in the world with more then 130 major surface combatants, weaker then the US navy, but not as weak as it had shown in the video. also, it's not great to under estimate a world power's ability by assuming "3 of the only large amphibious transports are sabotaged and they can only use civilian vessels to transport". Let's hope such a scenario will never happen in real life...
"India, Japan and US join the chat"
China: What this is illegal😑
And South Korea, Australia & basically NATO.....
Go home China
@@WolfdogsRescue yea they wouldn’t even need America.
@@WolfdogsRescue Shut up the east is superior
@@WolfdogsRescue Conservatism should be abolished
@@great-one0389 wouldn't Pakistan attack India. Forcing India to focus on two enemies?
North korea can pose a handful for south korea but south korea ultimately would win though be decently weakened afterwards. Due to have better equipment and their troops aren't starving.
Japan could help taiwan or it could help korea. If India and Japan join forces with Taiwan then china would be in a difficult position.
US involvement could draw in Russia. Idk what Russia's best option here is though. Only saying they would get involved due to how close this big of a conflict would be to their country it could be seen as a huge threat justifying their direct involvement.
To the Japanese, it's very important that a Taiwan invasion goes very badly. Because if it goes nice and smooth, the next logical thought is "islands ain't that hard, maybe we can do this to Japan too". So to them, this is the first front in a future invasion of their homeland.
Shinzo Abe has said Japan will go to war with China over Taiwan after the U.S. initiates the first military move.
I wonder which country has invaded the other more frequently
I think Taiwan has been preparing for this ever since they were at war with Mao, so that makes Taiwan a fortress difficult to invade.
No...they never thought war possible..until recently ! We know better...our army train in Taiwan for the last 50 years ! You lease training ground from them...China know about this and offer us training area..but we use sophisticated american equipments and cannot accept their offer !
@@ganboonmeng5370 Your our brothers over there if it's about peace and quality of life, we will fight to protect that for ours !
PRC vs ROC = Pyrrhic victory for PRC at best
“i think”
@@williamwang8352 ROC win as china equipment lack functionality and other nation like INDIA in the south will destroy china from south and cut off the world from them and from the west america will obliterate china and from north Russia will reclaim parts of Manchuria.
**sees Taiwan in Title**
**Grabs popcorn and scrolls to comments**
Now *this* is pandemic entertainment
We thought the same thing of Afghanistan, easy win. An now we're negotiating peace with the Taliban, lol.
Dude this is super underrestimate for the chinese , this guy play to much video game and take the chinese for Npc with no brain 😂
If you know several Taiwanese you would think twice. They have no gut.
@@karlstoner619 toured not on the Chinese side right
The US won in Afghanistan. What we didn't do is install a western Democracy but that should have never been the intent. It should also be understood that being in Afghanistan put US military power right next to China
@@unclelou2366 found the CCP supporter
Isn't this too optimistic? My friend in Taiwan who finished his military service said if a war happens, Taiwan maybe able to drag the war out, but defeat is inevitable
Taiwan can defend their island so long they prevent a successful Chinese Major Landing until America arrives.
Send in the devil dogs to counter china
US, Japan, Philippines and Australian, and probably more force would step up and china with few allies that would support its war of aggression would be force to retreat.
@@ZachCremisiSky Japan’s military is bound by her constitution for defensive action only. Unless that changes in the near future, we can go by the book and say all Japan will do is give complete control over the American military bases in Japan over to America. The Philippines is playing a delicate balance, trying to profit off of China and America playing each other, they ultimately will probably just watch. Australia may intervene. South Korea has to worry abt a potential 2nd Korean War if they intervene. India would be fighting a multi front war with China and Pakistan if they join, even though them joining would open a second front for China too. Russia wouldn’t join unless she feels America is getting too close to her. Pakistan won’t join unless India joins. North Korea is a bit of an unknown, Europe is also uncertain, though the Europeans I talked about this to (they aren’t Chinese in any way) seem to think that their countries won’t participate.
@@nicolaeceausescu2434 mmm could be both
@@nicolaeceausescu2434 well not really
As great and well thought out as this is, it’s based off the assumption that no other country would get involved. Something like a Taiwanese invasion would most likely spark a world war, in my opinion.
The U.S. would definitely intervene, as well as South Korea and maybe Japan which might provoke the North Koreans and *possibly* Russians. Everyone could possibly turn on China if they commit major war crimes.
@@AP-57 Russia supports china.
@@NaViAgain-ts9lj Never said they wouldn't.
@@NaViAgain-ts9lj I meant pretty much everyone that wasn't in the war.
@@AP-57 Russia is chinese ally. Russia is very anti west. Pakistan is against usa too. 3 nuclear nations
"How dare you offend the feelings of the Chinese people"😂
Han=inferiority
@@VeChainStacks Taiwanese are Hans too, go back to your KKK office bro.
@LEE Pak Ching Student isn't youtube regulated in china. I don't think china will show this video as it will be anti china propoganda as he made china look like it will lose.
@LEE Pak Ching Student ok .idk what to say im no expert.
@LEE Pak Ching Student Same
You missed the bit were China drops 1000 non-nuclear missiles on Tiawan for weeks prior to the invasion
They couldn’t do that or they’d lose the element of surprise
@@marcanthony8873 amassing 500,000 Chinese troops and 1000s transport ships, over months, would remove the element of surprise
TSMC fabs are destroyed, the world economy gets send back to the stone age. Can you imagine the backlash for being the country that makes smartphones and electronics unaffordable? That is a crime against humanity to the younger generations.
they missed a lot of bits. it is all someones immagination
as a Taiwanese I can say....this is really how we wish it would turn out to be
And you will have all the support there can be from Vietnam to defend your democracy.
don't know about that, probably vietnam would say something in the u.n
but sending troops against the big bad kung fu bully....dont know man
Do civilians have guns in Taiwan?
nope
@@PhongVu99 you must be joking…
A spoon approves this video.
noice
Their multiplying
Scary
What's with this comments
Fork u
*me sees taiwan hold off a giant army
*gets flashbacks from ww2
Proof: taiwan is Finnland
I think you meant Poland which held off against Russia and Germany
China is no USSR
@@jimboonie9885 you’re right its worse
@@josephhsu3221 Maybe
@@jimboonie9885 at least Russia refused to expand it's borders beyond pre-russian empire borders. China wants taiwan, hong kong, Kashmir, south china sea,
Taiwan is the incredible example of what China could be. Absolute freedom with intellectual leadership
Tsai Ing-Wen is a dictator and would be in jail for her corruption and fake degree
"Taiwanese intelligence:hmmmm...did someone here have a pen & paper?"
Both sides furiously dropping down ideas, only found out the other side is doing the same. *Spidermans pointing at each other
This is an extremely optimistic outlook
Its realistic. China has virtually no power projection.
You didn't expect anything better from Hollywood now did you?
It's always the same. Ship X is better than ship Y. Wars involve losing your own assets as well as destroying them. Each side has a weird assumption that their losses will be zero because they will be the winner, but thats not how it works.
@@anonymoose9315 So making everything you own isn't power projection?
@@jimmywest8684 not if practically no one in your country can afford the things they make. Many countries that do buy products from China and own the factories in China are moving out to other countries. China’s economy is on the verge of collapse due to their rapid manipulation of their currency. It’s the only way they can stay ahead. They are doing massive building projects developing cities and not able to populate them. They don’t have power projection at all. They are a paper tiger.
The sheer amount of preparedness that Taiwan has prepared for this scenario is insane.
ore begging and tech
I don't think the Infographics Show actually portrays the actual full defense and counter-attack measures that had been prepared.
Needless-to-say; more than Taiwan's role, Beijing's action in Hong Kong+ actually helped citizens of Taiwan to stand firm to keep their ways of life.
Even Members of EU (+UK) have now stood up to the occasion ^___^ FOR DEMOCRACY we all value even if it isn't perfect.
@@michaelwang6125 take heart my Taiwanese brother, The US, Australia, and Japan will help Taiwan if China attacks
I didn't see the vide mentioning chinese employing hundreds of planes with paratroopers. I wonder how prepared Taiwanese airforce would be against a massive air invasion.
@@-Muhammad_Ali- Taiwan has many many SAMs, slow paratrooper planes will be easily shot down.
what china is doing is like saying that an adopted child should be with their real person and not their adoptive parent
US is not adopting taiwan, but USING taiwan to bother Chinese Goverment
I'm Malaysian Chinese, I love my cousins in Taiwan and China
Aku orang Melayu tapi sepupu aku orang Cina
@@MalaysiaIsProChannel ey Orang Malaysia
@@malaysianmapping9767 hey same
I'm malay and i don't like USA and Israel, hope Malaysia and China more diplomatic..
@@ahmdddsabri2741 i dont like 3 of them
"the newly elected American president has resumed full scale arm sale towards taiwan"
If only that is going to be true
Edit April: turns out it's kinda true, cool
China should sell tons of weapons to Cuba, missiles, fighter planes submarines. Along with the Russians missile defense system S500
@@josef-peterroemer6235 - Problem is Cuba dosen't have the money, but Taiwan has. In fact Taiwan is the among the world's top 10 buyer nation of arms from the U.S.
@@josef-peterroemer6235 China themselves don’t even have S500 do they?
@@F15ElectricEagle Who knows the current “president” are with One China policy or not. But I don’t think Joe Biden’s gonna care much about China like Trump for sure.
@@seanzhang3873 I am not sure, but the S400 would do fine, I know they have that, and their own an improved version of the S400
*Japanese and American Ships: Comes
China: "Say sike right now"
Chinese flashbacks to 1938 ensue
Ok
Can’t wait for nanking part 2 whoops
@@derpynerdy6294 Oof
China: sike
Chinese government taking notes 📝
meanwhile chinese and taiwanese generals:' Write that down write that down
One lesson about warfare that nobody ever learns is that wars never go as predicted. Just look how well the American armchair strategists of 2002 predicted the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
Correct
Ni those wars were kinda spot on it was post wars that was the problem the power vacuum is hard to fill with the rightguy
Especially when American predicts that...
The war portion gets predicted quite accurately by the US. The political aftermath, not so much.
The Iraqi army capitulated in a few weeks.
This video sounds more like an asian mission impossble or james bond movie plot. So much dependancy on secret agents
China is forgetting the number 1 rule: Never start a land war in Asia
Taiwan: hey China want to here a joke?
China:Sure
Taiwan:me
China:I do not get it
Taiwan:and you never will
China: :((
Nice
wut?!
@@Ch4g-u5w He means that despite China being a superpower country, they will never successfully take Taiwan since CCP has lack of military power and combat training for 2 million soldiers while Taiwan has more experienced trained soldiers in guerrilla warfare.
@@ethanschaeffer7718 Oh ty
@@ethanschaeffer7718 Yes, actually the PLA is weak than Taiwan's army.
China and Taiwan: in a slapping contest
USA and japan: ight break it up, kids.
Japan slowly unsheating its Katana be like: Here we go again.
Well, I can’t argue with earth.
@HARRY XIE Propably, maybe they could win if they have strong support from EU, Russia or USA but right now, no chance.
@@andrewdoesyt7787 indeed you can’t
@HARRY XIE well china is not the one to speak about ww2 either , japan destroyed them
China: ok this isn’t going well but we can be fine
*Japan and America have entered the Chat*
China: well this was a fun life
Edit: How the heck do I have this many likes
Edit 2: Stop liking pls ;-;
PTSD from 1937-1945 kicks in as the rising sun approaches China...
Without US. Taiwan had been part of China for already 70 years.
But right now looks like US doesn't prepared well to fight a war abroad.
I think Taiwan issue will be solved in five years for China.
@@louiswu6300 actually the US has been shifting their military tactics to back to fighting superpowers. Which is why the stealth bombers are back in service.
@@frankramirez3651 the war between China US has already begun.
In South China Sea. They're fighting Electronic War and Information War. Recently China military officers told that one US submarine went wrong. And both sides have to search and find out it. US asked China to help to find it.
China and US don't need to fight a real war. Both sides understand if one can't control the sky and the space. One lost.
And US hit a very hard stone in South China Sea. So US won't start a war with China in along time. Especially for Taiwan. Taiwan has nothing worth US to war.
Ok
These writers are easily the best writers iv seen on TH-cam.
Bruh why does joe Biden look so terrifying🤣
Joe Biden forgot who is who.
He looks like a scarecrow!
He cheated
@Al Castill people have said biden is a puppet for China. If he does give military support to Taiwan it would be a nice step in the right direction.
When you realize trump is being impeached: Oh no, anyways
Taiwan: * in the brink of capitulation *
Allies: "On your left"
The allies didn’t help in ‘49. Why would they help today?
@@jimmywest8684 Taiwan was technically helped by the U.S & other's, however not so much by bringing in massive amounts of there army, That would of escalated stuff into having a war against the USSR & the west. Taiwan has it's independence protected by the U.S. So if Taiwan was ever invaded, the U.S, European Union + others would be joining on U.S's side.
( Either to preserve and protect the free world and the american dream, or end communism once and for all in mainland china. )
@@chrozolite2225 The US, the EU, and 90% of the UN do not recognize Taiwan as an official nation.
A war between China and any other nuclear power would equal everyone dying. Your type of thinking will destroy the world.
@@chrozolite2225 America has only preserved and protected freedom only when it's convenient to them. Think about all the dictatorships it has propped up in its interest.
You don't get the second most powerful economy by being communist. China is anything but communist. Seriously go to China and ask people if they want a western democracy.
The American dream is not dying because of China. The American dream is dying because of American greed.
@@jimmywest8684 Understandable, I learned my history sorta-well but tend to ignore some parts of modern day politics. thanks for correcting
The CCP would be fighting for the power and prestige of the Party. Taiwan would be fighting for its very survival.
Ok
@Anton Smirnov U mean Crimea?
@Anton Smirnov exactly. The Taiwan issue is a continuation of China's civil war and the last remnant of old China. Although Taiwan does not have the glorious history of Crimea and Sevastopol, it is also a territory that China cannot lose. I admire the courage of the Russian leaders in 2014, which is what Chinese leaders lack.
Taiwan fighting for survival? They are just another political party trtyiung to hold onto whatever power they have, risking their own citizen's safety just so they can rule the island independently.
@@Jake-dh9qk well we are fighting for survival because this is a scenario in which the CCP isn't trying to oust the DPP from power and install the KMT or other party into office, this is their planned takeover of the whole island for themselves
My grandfather was friends with a Chinese general. He was in charge of the missile program. They executed him for being too close to the west.
I remembered someone said "China fought against japan in ww2, the communist china didn't do a single thing and preserved their power, thats how they could win in the civil war"
Yep, the deal was that both sides (nationalists and communists) would put aside the fighting to fend of the invading Japanese and in typical dishonorable, dishonest, zero integrity, leftist, marxist fashion; the communists didn't help the nationalist.
Nationalist (now Taiwan) China were more capable and organised and did more to defend China against Japan than Communist China did. They were (maybe) numerically superior to Nationalist (Taiwan) forces but lacked far behind in technological and training/strategy. They basically let Nationalist Chinese forces do the main work to defend against (and more or less managed to hold up to) the Japanese invasion force while backstabbing them from behind and forced them out to Taiwan... (my lay understanding in a nutshell...)
@@jamesholt7340 yea, but when its the civil war, there are me-262. I think that counts as jet
Uh no. After WW2, the nationalists still vastly outnumbered the communists and held the majority of the land. The main reason the nationalists lost is just due to their incompetence.
@@casecao8412 ok...I understand the Nationalists was at the time still the legitimate/official Chinese Army hence they fronted the main Imperial Japanese army's offense (conventional warfare) suffering very heavy losses as a result while the Communist Chinese Army used guerilla warfare against the Japanese troops and hence suffered far less losses compared to KMT. In the end the Communists numbers swelled, won the support from the people in Communist controlled territories and forced/drove out the weakened KMT to Taiwan today. They both contributed to defend China against Japan but it is sad to see them split/fight brother to brother (sister to sister) due to Ideology....(US/Germany backed KMT and Russia backed Communists)...
If you think China could successfully invade Taiwan, consider that Taiwan is about 100 miles from China. England is about 20 miles from France. The last time England was successfully invaded and conquered was 1000 years ago - and it's just 20 miles to cross the English Channel. Crossing 100 miles of the open sea would require total control of the air and sea or your invasion force will be making a one way trip. Facing submarines, jet fighters, missile batteries and coastal artillery, I doubt any Chinese soldier would ever set foot on Taiwanese soil.
How far were Vikings from England?
thats what most ppl don't get, even if you can cross once, you need to be able to cross all the time, else your supply chain is broken, what happens to a invasion force that runs out of supplies?
A chinese jetskier travelled to taiwan last year to "search for democracy" 💀
That’s true but I’m sure some would reach the beaches but I’m sure they would be revived by a hail of gunfire artillery fire not to mention an unspeakable amount of mines and so forth lol
Though, the other way around, France has already been, well, not "invaded and conquered" from England but liberated as/when it was german.
Ok, granted, the saboteurs were on the side of the liberators, and so were the civilians, but attrition of german forces played the largest part, as even across Atlantic ocean, the highly dependable powerhouse US logistics and supply chain overwhelmed the germans.
I'd say most modern wars are played even more on the economics/attrition than pure combat tactics.
With nowadays technology 100 miles aren't this far and China could, well, obviously not "easily" win, but outpower in the long run, if those were only two isolated countries on Earth.
But with international communities and treaties, and also strategic alliances/shared interests with the free world nations, as stated in this video, it's a realistic bet that support to Taiwan and some isolation of China would turn the tides in favor of Taiwan.
Taiwan 🇹🇼 is a free country!
Thats not a statement its a *FACT*
They will fall to China, it’s only a matter of time.
@@Ruder6163 Then it will be the end of the Xi regime
@@Ruder6163 with India, Japan, USA, and possibly other allies, no. Even if Russia joins China, eventually, Taiwan, India, USA, Japan and other countries like Britain, France and Germany will overpower them.
@@kirillzakharov7336 you guys can’t even won 1952 China on Korean war
Although i am not Taiwanese I do believe that Taiwan could defend itself from China, Taiwan’s military is primarily focused on defense.
@@standown2080 they didn’t lose Korea they repealed the North Koreans, and if the US didn’t withdraw from south Vietnam then South Vietnam will probably exist today.
United States, quite clearly and obviously very far ahead. Undoubtably first by any measure.
United Kingdom, currently the only other navy with a super carrier commissioned, second if not single most experienced in naval warfare from the last 40 years. Best trained military in the world.
France, on a par with Britain in many areas such as major surface combatants (both have their strengths, but are of a similar size and generally similar technological level). One of the only nations with functional aircraft carrier, particularly one nuclear powered, utilising catapults.
China, conceptually one a similar if not greater scale to Britain/France, particularly with the planned carriers.
That said, they had next to no real combat experience in terms of experience with naval warfare or even just experience with naval operations as a whole, being the only one of the three that is restricted to its local water