C64 Mini Joystick Repair - Preventing it Snapping / Breaking - Joystick Fix
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Hello Everybody.
Here is my first attempt at fixing the C64 Mini Joystick.
I had a spare Joystick to try it out on, and it was successful. Here is how its done as these Joysticks are always breaking.
I used 3.5 x L50 mm Screws and a size 3 Drill.
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Watch till the end, as I have footage of me testing it.
Simple, effective fix.
I think Im getting old though.... felt the urge to tell you how dangerous the way you was drilling is.
Plastic that splinters easy while gripping the handle/knob pushing with force towards the drill....
I can tell you from 1st hand experience that when the plastic splinters and your control slips and you drill the webbing between yourthumb and index finger,.... that doesnt tickle.
Thankfully you didnt get to find out :-)
Thanks buddy! A little tip like that can save a lot of time and money. A new screw probably costs 10 maybe 20 cents at most. MUCH cheaper than a new C64 mini joystick that's for sure.
Great video, thank you!
My joystick just snapped while I was playing Summer Games II with my daughter. The javelin event, to be precise. I think I'll order a new one (2 even for more fun) but I'm too cheap to throw this one away so I thought I'd try inserting a longer screw plus glue the broken plastic. I did a search to see if anyone could hint which size of screw to use and found your video. :)
Your very well. Glad its helped you
One succesful fix here as well. Thank you for the tutorial, that's one more joystick you may have saved.
Fantastic. Great to hear.
Nice mod! I just did this in my C64 controller. Super easy! Now I feel a lot better about using it roughly.
Thank you. Glad its working for you.
Cheers a stack for this idea. I used an old Xbox 360 long steel torx screw that holds the case shut, perfect length and size, I did have to drill the hole deeper but the controller feels super solid now.
I was going to attempt the micro switch change but I didn’t have the parts. This was a gift for someone so I hope they enjoy it! Cheers for the advice!
No problem. Glad it works for you.
Fantastic video. Shared to the Facebook C64 Mini group :)
Least you didn’t screw it up Jamie .... nice fix and thanks for sharing
Clever mate very clever. For once I fixed something. I can tell your surprised.
Morgan Just Games fair play I normally try and fix things but can’t get them back together again ... I did change a disc drive belt on a CPC took a few hours but did it in the end ....
@@amigaoldskool That's so me mate.
I did this mod the other day using this video, watching it did help. The screw I used was a little too fat but it still managed to stay in and keep the joystick together and operate as normal. 2 inch screw for us 🇺🇸 yanks. Thanks again man!
No worries Brian. Glad you managed to get it sorted. It won't last forever, but will certainly last alot longer than if it was unmodded. Yeah its nuisance to have to do it, but its so much better after its achieved.
If you put a 2 inch screw in the shaft and just screw it in there say because there is inside the shaft a Y shape inside near the ball,the screw will go left or right and it will never be straight so you need to drill it,you don't if you put in a 1 inch screw.
I am glad someone used my idea.. :) I was banging on about this on Facebook for months,saying to people they should do it and you will never have a problem with the joystick again.. :) I have done this to one of my joysticks but not the new one I have,will have to soon.
Thank you for your comment. I was seeing posts on Facebook almost everyday about snapping Joysticks. I did think of the idea after my C64 Mini Joystick snapped but one of my friends had another idea which I went with. A few more months past and I decided to do it. I've heard a few people who had done it but I couldn't find any videos at the time so I went for it. Mine has been brilliant ever since. I use my original C64 alot but when I do C64 Streams, I used the Mini.
Neatly done. Thanks for sharing. Excellent video.
Thank you Chris. Quite an old Video now, but I appreciate it.
What a simple yet effective little mod - thank you mate
Your welcome
Great video, I gave up on using mine because it felt like it was going to snap constantly. Almost as if I could feel the plastic on the verge of snapping every time! Going to have to give this a go.
Thank you. This Video has done superbly well. I had a C64 Mini Joystick break too. I was playing Bruce Lee 2 and it broke. Since doing this, it's brilliant. I've done 2 Live Streams and about 4 Longplays. It's been fine. No problems what so ever now.
@@MorganJustGames I would hope they'd at least make such a simple change for all future releases of the joystick. To say it's just a screw, they could solve it so easily at the factory!
Simple solution for a big problem. 👍
Absolutely. I've done this many times.
This is a prime candidate for 3D printed parts. I don't have one of these, but my only concern about what you have done is that when the shaft was empty it was flexible (by the sounds of it too much) However now the stick is much stiffer so will transfer extra strain to the base, so that may need beefing up also.
Since I did this Video, I've done a C64 Stream and one longplay. No problems yet and I hope it remains that way. What you said makes sense though but unfortunately I also don't have a 3D Printer.
LumberJack's "splitting maul" axe has wedge shape same as the big screw in the video. Plastic is famous for splitting over time under pressure. Added flat washer spreads pressure out like wearing a snowshoe...although the recess "cup" the screw head sits in could mean trying all the washers in local hardware store bins...like Cinderella' slipper hunt. Perhaps a "dome head/pan head" screw instead?
Great job! BTW, Living On Video is by Trans-X of Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
Thank you
You have some talent, keeping it simple.
Thank you very much
Nice. I just had to manually fix TheC64 Joystick that comes with the Maxi version, and used the little screw it had, but oddly it just came unscrewed and didn't break. Seeing this I'm going to give your idea a try if that damned screw comes loose again. My entire bottom mechanism can be pulled straight upward on the version I have, it's a little wonky but the microswitch thingies make it less worrisome.
I don't have a C64 mini but after that video i may consider buying one . Seems a good fix and hope it lasts , with all that plastic you can't do much more i think . Great video !
The first Joystick I had snapped after a Month. To be honest, I hadn't used it much during that time.
I have used this Joystick quite a bit and it seems fine. I hope it remains that way and I can't see it breaking. I cannot see any other way of preventing it.
there really should have been reinforced solid metal tube in the shaft to begin with from the mfg
Great idea Jamie!
Cheers pal. Did you approve of the Music?
Yes awesome, love all the ocean loaders !
Nice. Just did this before I even unpacked the rest from the box.
Nice one. Mine is still working perfectly.
mine hasn't broken yet but i i haven't use it much, this was very useful i'm gonna try this fix, cheers.
Glad you're is okay. Be so careful with it though. They are incredibly fragile.
Nice idea for a fix. I was going to get one of these and was assuming they had microswitches so I won't bother, but at least I know before buying :-)
For those that already Broke theirs way too easily.....Drill the hole, fill with Gorilla glue, And leave the drill bit in it in Place of the screw.
Good job! I should get the C64 mini too! Need to write to Santa.
Only if you have been good this year?
Brilliant idea Jamie. Very cheap trick from Commodore to put in such a tiny screw... so screw that guy who took that decision!
Thank you Swedish House. It's a rare thing me fixing something.
@Electronic Adventures I've changed the Title of the Video. Yeah these Joysticks break very easily. My first one snapped after the first Month and I was playing Bruce Lee 2, not any sports game.
the c64 "maxi" joystick also has similar issues. They put a metal shaft into the stick so that the screw goes into the metal shaft, but the stick plastic eventually deteriorates around it.....
I am not surprised really, Its a much better design but its such a shame it still has its problems.
Nice
Just be careful if your attempting it.
I think this is Great idea
I can fix some things.
Appreciate it
Your welcome. Your comment is appreciated
Mine broke. so I ordered a preplacement theC64 Maxi joystick to replace it.
Very useful video. Thanks
Your welcome mate. This Video has helped alot of people. Hopefully these joysticks will last alot longer now.
Thank you for providing this very helpful video. After all, I wasn't keen on the design of the stick when I first saw it being previewed. So, I literally came running for an alternative a few hours after unpacking and found your video. I have filmed my attempt at conducting this upgrade and it was a whopping success. In fact, I think the joystick feels slightly better after having done this. I shall be providing a link to your source video from mine.
Glad you got it sorted. I see you've got two Videos on your Channel about it. You got those Controllers also. I bought them aswell but I am more of a Joystick fan than a Controller fan. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Great!Thank you!
Your welcome
Great idea. Probably what I would do should it happen to me. Looks like a drywall screw. 3,5mm is smaller than 1/4" (6,35mm). By the way, was there a blizzard where you were, with that knit cap?
Left you a like and cool upload
Liked your comment. Cheers my friend.
Is this also a problem with the microswitch joystick that comes with the full sized “TheC64”? I’ve also purchased a second microswitch joystick. Has this problem been fixed with that version? Or is this fix something I should look into doing? I don’t want to go drilling things if I don’t have to.
The new Microswitches Joysticks are better and i haven't needed to drill them. The only problem is the screw on the end of the shaft keeps unscrewing itself then falls out. Its a simple fix but can be annoying if it keeps happening.
@@MorganJustGames So far, I havn't had an issue with my one joystick that came with the big C64 yet. I can say that out of all these "emulation game systems", this one is the best I've ever seen. I have a real C64, but I'm just terrified to plug the thing in and turn it on without a new, modern, power supply, and replacing the capacitors on the board. All this company needs to do now is get this thing internet (300 baud emulation!), and multi-drive capability so we can run C64 BBS's again. Haha!
It looks poor quality. The original Competition Pro used arcade-like microswitches not membrane contacts. It's good that I saw that, because I wanted to buy this joystick and the price is the same as my trusty Logitech F710 (modern wireless gamepad) that is much better quality and more advanced. I wonder if the Competition Pro clone from Speedlink is the same junk. If so I'm going to build my own joystick using arcade parts.
The Speedlink is much better but has less Buttons, but it's works. It has a Metal shaft and a teeny tiny Screw like those Mini Joysticks do.
Hi.. thanks for the tip.. Have you tried the speedlink competition pro joystick ? And do you recomend it?
Yes i have one of those. Yes i recommend it, however sometimes directions can get stuck.
@@MorganJustGames ok thanks for you're reply ,one more question, is the lack of extra buttons on the speedlink an issue?
@@AmigaVR if your referring to the usb competition pro, then no, no issues. The two diagonal buttons work as options buttons for virtual keyboard etc.
Mines never been used. Ive used other compatable pads. Another 30 years when im dead my original stick will be worth a fortune. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo. I will be buying the Microswitch version, but i wish there was a Ziptstick version. Ocean loader 4 C64 for the win.
Zipstick for the win but it will never happen here. This video has saved alot of those horrible quality Joysticks, but the new one which came with the full size C64 is 10 times better. Thank you for your comment but didn't like the 30 years and dead bit. You'll live alot longer than that Mister. Thanks again you awesome dude.
the c64 "maxi" joystick also has similar issues. They put a metal shaft into the stick so that the screw goes into the metal shaft, but the stick plastic eventually deteriorates around it.....
I think looks like the right solution,but I don't own a drill and am afraid I would need it up and be left without a controller.
Hi, very useful video. I am looking to do this, but can only find 4mm x 50mm screws, is that likely to be O.K? 1mm more than the screw shown in the video
It would probably be okay but id be ever so careful. I don't know how strong to top of the Joystick is. Have you tried B&Q?
Thanks for your reply. I used a 50mm M3 screw in the end. Drilled the existing hole with 2.5mm drill bit and then screwed the M3 in. Even though there is no thread it would screw into the plastic. Much more solid feeling now. Just took a while to adjust to gap at the bottom of the screw so all contacts were good and I could get angle directions. Many thanks for the video.
Clever! :-D :-D
Thank you. It's a rare thing.
This works to Commodore Pro joystick?
The C64 Mini Joystick
@@MorganJustGames OK have to made by c64 mini joystick
cant you just screw a longer screw in with a screw driver without the drilling?
Give it a try. The plastic is not the strongest, but no harm in trying.
it was a shitty joystick back then why they brought it to life is beyond my sanity.
I wonder if this fix can be used after the joystick had snapped 😏
It's possible I guess. Put the stick next to the broken bit and drill into both of them.