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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- A lot of folk seem to be having difficulties handling the DC-3 Classic aircraft; so in this video, I share with you my won methods and AP tips.
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Introduction: (0:00)
General handling & flying tips: (1:41)
Autopilot settings & tips: (17:44)
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I was fortunate to have flown this legendary aircraft in the US Air Force while in Vietnam as an electronic recon aircraft. MSFS rendition is quite accurate and I applaud the detail the developers included. The sounds are very authentic especially for flaps and landing gear. Someone in an earlier post suggested locking the tail wheel for takeoff, that was absolutely essential in the real aircraft especially for landing and takeoff. I’ve seen seasoned pilots ground loop the aircraft during landing even with tail wheel locked so be careful out there especially in a crosswind.
Wonderful, thanks Tom for the additional info.
Thanks for this video, I just tried for the first time to fly the DC3 earlier today but was having problems with the taxi, now I know what to change. Thanks again, great content on your channel!
Pleased this video was of help to you.
Love the old vintage Sperry autopilot...MSFS version is not really accurate to the real deal..but once you figure out each knob, it does help with long range flying. Many hours in a DC3, and I must say ..like you...one of the best MSFS planes out there. and for sure my fav. New sim pilots are to quick to learn the modern day auto pilots, and that usually means ..it will take them longer to be proficient in flying other planes. I am amazed at how many sim pilots do not know how to navigate TDS. Its old school..but accurate and fun times in the cockpit during flights. Great video..
Thanks for those excellent comments.
I find that any Simulated aircraft that offers something different from the ordinary, is great fun to dive into and learn.
As a big fan of the ICE PILOTS series i down loaded the livery for BUFFALO AIRWAYS and set up a typical short flight from YELLOW KNIFE CYZF the Buffalo base to HEY RIVER CYHY in VR this was amazing.
It sounds amazing.
I tried flying this today in preparation for the next leg of the around the world trip. It’s more of a handful than the Spitfire IMO, but this video is very helpful. Hopefully I can get a handle on it before the flight.
Either the DC3 or Famous Flyer 9 (Douglas) will do for that flight Carol. The later is easier to fly.
@@Huddison I think I’ve gotten a handle on the DC3. I’ll try the other one too, just for fun. You’ve really broadened my horizons with these retro planes and I’m enjoying them very much. I’m even branching out to other tail draggers. Thank you!
@@hobiegal That's great to hear Carol!
Because it was beautifully explained, I’ll have another go with DC-3 ✈️
Great Ronnie
@@Huddison Same here but I couldn't resist a "touch" of the modern avionics. Flying across Australia via GPS in a DC-3 at a modest 3,000 feet was an absolute delight! Even my 90 year old father thoroughly enjoyed it as he had been up in these many times quite a long time ago. He was amazed at how real it seemed. Thank you so much for these tutorials! We shared a wonderful 2 hour chat at the same time. ;-))
@@theaustralianconundrum That's lovely :)
Finally fs2020 arrived to a place where i should be. Without a DC3 it was incomplete.
I am developing a dc3 joke and levers that eventually I would comercialize.
Sounds great.
WWell Done!!! Nice tutorial!!
Thank you! Cheers!
When you land, keep the tail in the air as long as possible (pussh the yoke forward) to keep rudder authority. That way you can keep the plane in the middle of the runway!
i’ve tried this, I does work but eventually the tail needs to come down, and that’s when my landings go to shit.
alright then all my fav British MSFS 2020 reviewers etc have convinced me to Fly the DC-2 the mod version of course and I have concluded that the Vans and Kitfox just don't play well with LNMP
A big help watching this video me like a few other flyers had problems keeping her in the air all sorted now thank you Mr huddison
Great to hear & most welcome Jim
I had no idea people were having problems with handling the aircraft, I find it a joy to fly. As to the sound outside there is a sound bug in this update.
I'm really enjoying it too & let's hope the sound bug gets a patch soon.
I can't get it off the ground at all.
flying is easy, keeping it on the runway after touchdown is my only problem
@@belevezero2279 Are you using the tail wheel lock? It should be locked until you are at slow enough speeds to exit the runway, then unlocked to leave the runway and taxi.
Solid advise and another great video. I've found the DC-3 a joy to fly, I've had no issues with it what so ever aside of forgetting to switch the fuel feed to AUX feed thus running out of fuel over Greenland on a live stream, always exciting when that happens Lol.
It is lovely isn't it.
I'm also flying the DC3 Classic and the sounds (of my plane at least) are awesome, inside and out. In outside views, the sound of the radials is incredibly rich. I've also started navigating with the VOR receiver, tuning a radial and flying to or from the VOR in heading mode. You can easily do long cross country flights without a GPS, just using VORs. I'm also going to try an ILS, there should be no problem getting vertical navigation. Keeping on the glideslope will be the challenge! In short, the DC3 is great for hand flying, but using the AP while sightseeing is as much fun.
A note on landings... no one should be discouraged by bad landings in a sim, they are much more difficult than in real life.
Thanks GIles, the DC-3 is a lot of fun to fly for sure.
Nice work. Mr Huddison 😊
Thank you kindly
AS usual.. Very helpful...be very interesting to see your usually very informative settings for this aircraft...Saitek?
Thanks for the video. I find some of the tail draggers in MSFS really hard to get used to - its just me not a reflection on how these are modelled in the game. I'm looking forward to mastering this one eventually or at least not ground looping on every landing. In the real world you would have an experienced instructor in the right seat to set you right but for me now I have TH-cam and good videos like these to help.
Thanks Darren.
Thank you🎉
You’re welcome 😊
Nice video how are you changing the heading? It's a bit confusing to me. the knobs don't react the same in my craft when I hover over them the pointing hand does not show. I can only turn them.
You can set up your controller to do this (see part of this video as an example): th-cam.com/video/cer46Og1FSc/w-d-xo.html
If you have difficulties with that, our Discord will be able to help.
Excellent video..I would love to see you do a cold start done properly as its worth getting right as its such a wonderful aircraft...al
In order to help stop the aircraft dancing across the runway you can lock the tail wheel by sliding the green lever in front of the trim wheel forward. It really helps. Just get into the habit of lining up on the runway and then locking the tail wheel before your take off roll. Keep it locked in flight, and once you've landed and have a stable rollout, you can unlock it again so you can taxi back to the terminal.
As for the A310 sounds, they're sooooo off putting, aren't they? I really hope they do something about that. It's a great aircraft but unfortunately I've had to uninstall it for now, as it completely ruins my multiplayer experience. Let's hope they fix it sooner rather than later.
There's also a sound bug with the DC3, but you'll only notice it under very specific conditions. A large group of us did a DC3 group flight both last night and the night before, and it seems that if there are around 10ish DC3s flying together, the sounds start chopping and stuttering, totally ruining the experience. I'm fully convinced that the beta testers don't test anything in multiplayer.
Good tip re the rear tail lock. Let's hope there's a hotfix/patch soon that will fix these niggling issues.
I tried to steer the DC-3 yesterday. I like to opearte it with the real POH. Vr is apr. 100 knots... It is impossible be for me to stay on the ground for that long. Even if i push the yoke FULLY foward the airplane is in the air at about 70 knots.. dont know what im doing wrong here ... Powersettings are checked aswell. Maybe you have to fully fuel and load it up? Or maybe the performance of the sim is not accurat enough? How is your experience with this?
With further practice on the take-off procedure, I throttle up to around 70% and push my yoke full forward to encourage the front wheels to drop. Then I further increase to throttle to 95% (or so) to get to a good take-off speed - seems to work well.
I had a problem when I lost my throtle And I tried to switch for aux engine but I failed . Cam anyone educate me ?
I also have 3 Flight Instrument panels currently set to Airspeed; Altimeter and Compass which brings the guages physically closer to my eyes eh :)
The correct way to use trim is to establish the desired attitude and then trim the control pressure away. The trim wheel is not for flying the aircraft. try it and see if it handles better.
Thank for sharing ! I flew a little bit, didn’t like the sounds and handling felt strange. I’d much prefer PMDG DC-6
Hello ! good video and do you know if this classic DC3 has ILS and DME ?
I'll have to investigate and perhaps make another video if so.
I flew into the ground upside down twice; seemed my yoke input was not happening; does it require adjusting control settings? Thanks for sharing tips
Ensure you are at the correct speed (85 mph+) when taking off and watch your rate of climb.
Lighten your payload and set the center of gravity back a little bit. Picked that up from another u tuber and worked for me. I hit the ground too this fixed it.
May be worth checking your trim setting prior to take off.
In my DC3 I have a modern AP unit with GPS - I'm totally confused because all the tutorials on TH-cam show different instruments????
There 2 different versions of the DC3, depending on which livery you choose: Retrofit (with Garmin) & The Classic (without).
Another helpful video thanks. And yes the DC3 is a bit of a handful to fly and nicely challenging.
But I’m confused after watching your video. The functionality of my cockpit seems different, both in the Classic and Retrofit aircraft. For example, with flaps: these operate using a lever on the floor to the right of the pilot's seat. And the notched levers used in your video seem lifeless. Also, I had a lot of difficulty at first finding how to raise the landing gear. My Logitech autopilot lever control for this was non responsive. I discovered that hidden - and only visible with the pilot's armrest raised - was a lever that unlocked the landing gear. Once activated my controls worked ok. Perhaps I’m missing an update or maybe things work different,y with the Logitech set up.
That's got me puzzled Ken and requires some thought; hopefully others can offer suggestions in the meantime.
the DC3 offers garmin gps autopilot aswell. look for the "retrofit" under liveries
I cannot figure out how to set the retrofit Garmin autopilot.Does it actually work? Maybe Mr. Huddleston can help.
The retrofit autopilot works well. Took me awhile to figure it out, but on the ramp press Y on the game pad to turn the autopilot on. I then flew it manually to my chosen altitude. Then, right bumper and X to hold altitude and right bumper and B to hold heading. Seems to work rather well with the game pad.
@@parkerforte to actually see the AP you need to hide the yoke. then you will see it at the bottom in the middle. you can change heading or alt from there even make it follow a nav route.
seems to stall a bit on take off and pulls to the left and crashes
Ensure you are at 85 mph+ before taking off and that shouldn't happen.
@@Huddison Vmca for the DC-3 is 89 mph, so you wouldn't want to take off at less than about 95 mph or the aircraft would become uncontrollable if one engine failed. Vx is 105 mph, Vy is 110 mph and Vyse is 112 mph (also happens to be the yellow line on the ASI), so no too much acceleration after take-off.
that noise is the sound bug but there is a fix for it
I can’t get the autopilot to engage, either with the mouse, the AP button on my Logitech yoke, or my multipanel. I’m sure it’s user error but it looks like you had no issues turning it on. Guess I’ll keep trying.
I'll have to revisit the DC3 Carol.
If you chose a livery with the 'Retrofit' affix, you will find a Garmin system installed in your DC3.
@@Huddison That’s what I’ve been doing but i decided to try the classic today.
Other than landing, its easy to fly. Any landing tips are welcome
Approach around 100 mph and flair when landing. A few notches of flaps helps too.
@@Huddison it’s more about the ground roll after touchdown. I can’t keep the plane on the runway, rudder does nothing regardless of tail wheel locked or not
@@belevezero2279 I have similar issues on my Series S, but it behaves well on PC. Not sure what the issues are.
So are you able to keep the DC-3 perfectly straight on the runway after landing every time?
@@belevezero2279 It semes to wiggle with tail wheel lock on or off, but just keep tapping the brakes so you dont over correct.
Where's the parking brake release?
how do you get it to look right on velosity 1 its not working lol love the dc3
another great vid
Set a custom cockpit view for looking right - I just assigned it to my POV 1 right.
@@Huddison i will give it a bash ooo ps a wee tip when cruising set prop at 2000rpm and throttle at 3000 i find this is best for fuel economy and dont forget mixture auto lean
There is a DC3- Enhanced version also in the Market Place . Free ;-)
Omg What!! there’s multiple versions? look I sit inside of aircrafts, so I never bother with looking at livery’s…. Wow.
Your explanation of the autopilot heading function is poor, because you have assigned knobs to your controller, so we have no idea what control in the aircraft itself you are changing. The heading thing is the only part of the autopilot that's confusing but you don't cover it adequately.